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<mnutt_> I just tried out Panic's Transmit client on iOS for accessing Davros, it is a million times better than Owncloud iOS. Night and day. So I'm excited about the randomized hostnames so that other clients can connect.
<asheesh> Wow. Awesome, mnutt_.
<asheesh> mnutt_: I have no point, I just want to say: "Panic at the Disco!"
<mnutt_> and it doesn't need any of the weird stuff owncloud does, just a user agent whitelist :)
<mnutt_> (for now)
<asheesh> mnutt_: Can people use this to xfer images in bulk off their phones?
<asheesh> Someone I know is really interested in doing that on her iPhone and I'd like to plausibly suggest Sandstorm + Davros as a useful endpoint for her transfer.
<asheesh> (I ask because I know very little about iOS.)
<asheesh> Ooh, and/or she can "just" xfer to her laptop, which is cool.
<asheesh> Ooh, also, "Apple added an extensible Document Picker, enabling Transmit to extend the open & save capabilities of other apps"
<asheesh> That's fascinating.
<mnutt_> I'd really like to figure out a way to automatically sync my iphone photos with Davros, but alas it looks like you can merely choose a bunch of photos and upload them
<asheesh> Interesting, OK.
<mnutt_> I set up a lychee album and spent about an hour editing titles and descriptions and such before realizing that I had accidentally created it under a demo account. it was pretty amazing that within 60 seconds I had downloaded the grain and re-uploaded it to my regular account and everything magically worked.
<asheesh> (-:
<mnutt_> If I ran a hosted service of some sort and a user filed a ticket asking how they could move something they created from one account to another, my first reaction would be a big sigh as I imagined all of the implications of having a user link accounts in some way or transfer ownership. With sandstorm it just works, and elegantly.
<asheesh> Also too bad it took you so long to discover it was a demo account!
<asheesh> AFK to play glTron apparently with paroneayea !
<mnutt_> the word "demo" in the corner really should have given it away.
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<asheesh> And yet people make this mistake all the time!
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<hannes3> i am back \o/ opened my browser and all my grains but one are not in the sidebar anymore. i have to go to https://oasis.sandstorm.io/grain to have them there again. why? :)
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<hannes3> re-opening rocket chat asks me to give notification permissions every single time. i use opera on linux
<hannes3> they dont work though, might just be my setup
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<Brisr> anyone around? I ran into this Vagrant problem: https://github.com/sandstorm-io/vagrant-spk/issues/25#issuecomment-186857738
<Brisr> & this https://lists.debian.org/debian-cloud/2015/12/msg00008.html but it's still unlear to me how to make it work
<Brisr> asheesh, ?
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<asheesh> Brisr: Hi!
<asheesh> Brisr: Let me see, one sec.
<asheesh> Brisr: First question - can you try upgrading vagrant-spk right now?
<Brisr> asheesh, sure how do I so that? Sorry newbie just following guide for first time
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<asheesh> To upgrade, on OS X & Linux: Run from a terminal:
<asheesh> $ cd ~/projects/vagrant-spk
<Brisr> I'm just in the middle of installing the deb from here: https://www.vagrantup.com/downloads.html
<asheesh> $ git pull
<Brisr> is that likely to help?
<asheesh> Do you already have Vagrant installed? FWIW I run the version of Vagrant from the Debian archive.
<asheesh> What distro are you on?
<Brisr> hmm yes I tried that already. I saw it in one of the threads
<Brisr> ubuntu 14.4
<asheesh> OK, cool. So then can you state exactly what you're typing and where you're seeing the error message? Perhaps with a screenshot if you can do that.
<asheesh> vagrant-spk ties together a large number of layers, so I want to make sure I understand which layer is failing.
<Brisr> Ah that deb seems to have made a difference vagrant-spk up now running and installing some stuff. Is that a good sign?
<Brisr> before the deb install vagrant-spk up gave: There are errors in the configuration of this machine. Please fix
<Brisr> the following errors and try again:
<Brisr> vm:
<Brisr> * The box 'sandstorm/debian-jessie64' could not be found.
<asheesh> Interesting, OK!
<asheesh> Maybe it has to do with the version of vagrant you are getting.
<Brisr> however now (post deb install) it's downloading a bunch of stuff
<asheesh> Perfect.
<Brisr> Suggestion from bottom of the thread here: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sandstorm-dev/JTgm3xGudwg
<Brisr> to install that deb
<Brisr> I'll wait and see how this goes and get back to you if any problems..
<asheesh> Awesome. I'm excited to hear it.
<Brisr> asheesh, so now I have a new problem: http://pastebin.com/bmjgangA which config file is it referring to?
<asheesh> "If you see that, run:"
<asheesh> sudo service sandstorm stop
<asheesh> "and halt any other vagrant-spk virtual machines you might be using to develop other apps."
<Brisr> OK now re-do vagrant-spk up ?
<asheesh> Yup - if you managed to quit something/stop some other virtual machine, then re-running 'vagrant-spk up' is the right next step.
<Brisr> Another new problem: VT-x is disabled in the BIOS. (VERR_VMX_MSR_VMXON_DISABLED). I'll reboot and try and fix the bios
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<asheesh> Welcome back Brisr !
<Brisr> Thanks, seems to be going OK now :)
<asheesh> Great!
<asheesh> BTW what are you working on packaging?
<Brisr> grabbing a bunch of packages from debian
<asheesh> If I may ask.
<Brisr> Loomio
<asheesh> Ooh, cool.
<Brisr> I probably won't be very useful
<asheesh> You may know that ndarilek has been working on that, on and off; maybe you're starting with his packaging work?
<Brisr> but just curious to poke around with it
<Brisr> yep just trying to run his github
<asheesh> Great.
<Brisr> figure I might be able to do some bug reporting if nothing else
<Brisr> not really a developer, more interested user
<asheesh> You're probably going to run into https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sandstorm-dev/Kqp_FM8BqWw if you use Oasis (but if you use self-hosted Sandstorm that won't affect you).
<asheesh> Cool.
<asheesh> And see also https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/sandstorm-dev/loomio/sandstorm-dev/z6iz2SOoBeA/BaiSFymgAAAJ which you probably have already seen, but thought I'd point you at it, at least.
<asheesh> If you get to the point where you're re-packing the SPK file, you'll need to change app key etc. information. Ping me if you run into issues like that, Brisr.
<Brisr> OK great. I've found a 403 nginx error, But I'm happy to just Google it & let you do something else :)
<asheesh> Well feel free to ramble here; someone else might be interested in helping too!
<Brisr> :) thanks looking at this now https://github.com/sandstorm-io/vagrant-spk/issues/33
<asheesh> Your optimism is infectious!
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<hannes3> hm, my grains are all closed but one again. what causes this?
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<asheesh> hannes3: Perhaps you hit reload in your browser?
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<hannes3> asheesh: yeah, i had closed it. why does it keep one open inthe sidebar and not the others though? i always have to go to the grain overview page to be able to open them again
<asheesh> The theory is that you might have different sets of grains open in different browser tabs.
<asheesh> We could try to jam the info about which grains are which into the URL, but we're sort of hesitant about that for some reason.
<hannes3> i wanted to use this for some group collaboration and having the same "tabs" available easily over the sidebar would rule
<asheesh> For now, there isn't a way to do that, but we hope to improve that eventually.
<hannes3> dang
<hannes3> thanks
<hannes3> having a dashboard might be an analogy of what i had in mind
<hannes3> instead of having a tab per grain i would have my sandstorm tab :)
<asheesh> That is the idea! : D
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<zarvox> hannes3: as for the "rocket chat asks for notification permission every time I open it" issue: that's something we're aware of, and have a kinda-design for: https://github.com/sandstorm-io/sandstorm/issues/919
<hannes3> i see! i was just dumping out all my first impressions as "mental talk"
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<asheesh> Brisr: How are things going?
<asheesh> Also Brisr & hannes3 if you want to give a talk about Sandstorm, these places *at least* would be great venues: https://github.com/sandstorm-io/sandstorm/wiki/Places-to-give-a-talk
<Brisr> meh got bored of the 403 error, so trying https://jitsi.org/ now..
<asheesh> Brisr: Ah, cool. I can probably video-chat with you at some point to debug the 403, perhaps tomorrow daytime sometime.
<Brisr> great thanks
<Brisr> when is daytime for you?
<asheesh> Current time is 11:47am ; I'm in America/Los_Angeles time zone
<asheesh> I could probably also/alternatively chat about ~3h from now, if we are quick. Also if you can provide steps to reproduce, I might be able to do it without video chat!
<asheesh> Will be randomly busy at random times today so today is hard to predict; tomorrow is easier to promise, but is farther away in time.
<Brisr> I''ll try and document the steps and stick them in a pastebin here? Or email?
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<asheesh> Either way is OK with me, Brisr
<Brisr> OK great.
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<phildini> Hello sandcats! SPK Upload appears to be broken. (multiple peer disconnected's) after running `vagrant-spk upload`. Is there anyone on the sandstorm ops team that can assist and is here right now?
<asheesh> (am looking into it)
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