<sknebel>
oh, ok, I can set it up even if I don't give it port 80/443
<simonv3>
asheesh to your ping from yesterday (I think?) about finding a project to package - I was actually wondering - do you have a Wekan board where people can add things they’d like to see on Sandstorm?
<simonv3>
and that keeps track of the people working on that?
<asheesh>
There is sandstorm.io/vote but that's another way of saying no.
<asheesh>
I used to, I think. Hmm.
<asheesh>
Rather I have the inverse.
<asheesh>
Oh, wait, I guess what you want *is* sandstorm.io/vote !
<sknebel>
... and I have a running instance. cool!
<asheesh>
Cool! (-:
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<asheesh>
Welcome, sknebel, to the world of having a Sandstorm server!
<sknebel>
I apparently spend to much time reading before, because the prompt actually didn't say anything about sandcats.io when it asked about 80/443
<sknebel>
thank you
<asheesh>
Whoa, it seems you have discovered something I can fix in the installer text.
<asheesh>
Can you explain that to me some more?
<sknebel>
I came to the prompt that noticed that port 80 is already in use
<sknebel>
and somehow thought: ok, if I let it use the other port I can't use sandcats.io
<sknebel>
I don't know why I thought that
<sknebel>
probably because I loose https that way
<sknebel>
Maybe a sentence like "You still can use our service sandcats.io, explained in the next prompt" would have helped me
<sknebel>
but on the other hand that might confuse people that never have heard of that
<asheesh>
Got it!
<sknebel>
(is there a reason why it does default to HTTP on port 6080, and not HTTPS on 6443)
<asheesh>
Because I'm silly.
<asheesh>
It should totally do 6443 or 444 or something,
<sknebel>
I can open a github issue for that?
<asheesh>
+1
<sknebel>
ah, there is already one
<sknebel>
#1353
<asheesh>
d'oh
<asheesh>
Thanks!
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<simonv3>
asheesh: yay, that is what I wanted!
<asheesh>
Awesome!
<asheesh>
FWIW I am sure there are new things people want to see ported that didn't make their way there, too.
<simonv3>
Yeah it looks like the app is a bit broken?
<simonv3>
ex: can’t click on Discuss to read the comments
<simonv3>
Can’t click on anything actually
<asheesh>
I think it's because you're not part of th App Committee!
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<asheesh>
simonv3: I can still make two things be #1 ! : D
<asheesh>
Also uploading images is *super* fun, honestly!
<asheesh>
I /whois 'd you on IRC then Googled that!
<chilts>
sweet!
<asheesh>
Short answer: Revenue share participation would be up to the app author. Tentatively we plan to do it via app authors being able to create paid features, which users could unlock, like Android in-app purchases.
<asheesh>
That's somewhere in the future but we haven't been working on it yet.
<chilts>
ah, I have lots of ideas for that! :D
<asheesh>
We are actually excited about it, though.
<asheesh>
BTW, Googling you also indicated you were one of the indiegogo backers.
<asheesh>
I was too!
<chilts>
I always find it interesting ... make something open source, get contributions (one hopes) but then how would I feel asking for money when other people have contributed
<chilts>
dunno :D
<asheesh>
Yeah, I think that's always an interesting question. (-:
<chilts>
asheesh: yes, I was ... not sure I ever stated what I wanted doing with the cash :)
<chilts>
well, or at least I can't remember
<chilts>
yeah, I noticed I was on the credits page
<asheesh>
It's saved for you to decide what app purchases to make... when that exists in the future.
<chilts>
anyway, go get some sleep - you're always on here :D
<asheesh>
I was even in the video, btw!
<asheesh>
OK, I'll do that.
<chilts>
oh right, nice!
<asheesh>
Ciao for now!
<chilts>
tata
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<dwrensha>
ocdtrekkie: wow, interested. I hadn't considered that angle. I suppose that from a consumer's perspective, self-driving cars might indeed appear to be vaporware at the moment.
<dwrensha>
*interesting
<dwrensha>
From my perspective, though, it seems pretty clear that self-driving cars are fast becoming a reality, and once they are fully deployed their impact will be huge.
<dwrensha>
Anyway, the bigger part of the analogy that I was thinking about has more to do with personal freedom and lowered cost.
<dwrensha>
Self-driving cars will give people access to the world's transportation infrastructure, without requiring them to invest in learning all of the complex protocols involved in operating an automobile.
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<sandah>
Howdy. I have sandstorm working partially on a vm in my house, but I can't get any of the apps to load. The apps install (with no icon) and launching a grain just gives me a spinning wheel. Any ideas?
<phildini>
sandah: that sounds like an issue I had with a memory misconfiguration - does your VM have swap?
<asheesh>
Usually that's a matter of running out of disk space
<asheesh>
..
<asheesh>
I should have us at least log the disk space free to the Sandstorm log file in that case, since otherwise there's no "information scent" that disk space might be a problem.
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<sandah>
hmm OK. I may rebuild this host then. I grabbed an image which only had a 3G for the root: /dev/vda1 2.9G 2.4G 354M 88% /
<sandah>
/dev/vda1 2.9G 2.4G 354M 88% /
<asheesh>
I don't know for sure if that's the issue, since 354M seems OK to me, but maybe it is.
<asheesh>
You can try clearing up some disk space by removing apps from /opt/sandstorm/var/sandstorm/apps as a test.
<asheesh>
Because if mongod is crashing for some *other* reason than disk space, then I very much want to find out why so we can print a more useful error message.
<sandah>
OK I can delete anything in the apps dir?
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<asheesh>
You'll probably create an inconsistent state if you do that, but um at leastt's a way to free up some disk.
<asheesh>
If you get to 500 MB of disk free and mongod still can't start, then I think I want a snapshot of your /opt/sandstorm/var so I can debug that.
<sandah>
You think if I switched it to the ip address I would have better luck?
<asheesh>
I think if you switch to following the instructions within localhost:8000/administering/faq/#how-do-i-use-sandstorm-with-an-internal-ip-address you will get past this problem.
<asheesh>
You have to use the xip.io stuff very precisely; a typo can result in the same problem.