#ruby on 2014-04-09 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

2014-02-24 18:48 apeiros changed the topic of #ruby to: Ruby 2.1.1; 2.0.0-p451; 1.9.3-p545: http://ruby-lang.org || Paste >3 lines of text on http://gist.github.com || this channel is logged at http://irclog.whitequark.org, other public logging is prohibited

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00:01 <wallerdev> ocke: different ruby versions

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00:02 <wallerdev> i think arg2:value syntax was added in ruby 1.9

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00:03 <havenwood> ocke: Ruby 1.8 is past End-of-Life. Move to 2.1.1, 2.0 or at least 1.9 if you can.

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00:05 <havenwood> ocke: you might google for "hash rocket" and "1.9 hash syntax"

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00:05 <zorak> hi, can somebody help me with this code?

00:05 <zorak> http://pastebin.com/agW4E5jY

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00:06 <zorak> the problem is that in the book, the writter use ruby 1.8.7 and in line 25, he gets 97 from 'a'[0]

00:06 <havenwood> >> 'a'.ord

00:06 <eval-in> havenwood => 97 (https://eval.in/134097)

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00:06 <zorak> in new versions i need 'a'[0].ord to get 97

00:07 <havenwood> >> 97.chr

00:07 <eval-in> havenwood => "a" (https://eval.in/134098)

00:07 <zorak> but this mess up with the code

00:07 <zorak> and i dont know how to fix it

00:07 <davidz_> woah

00:07 <davidz_> thats neat

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00:07 <zorak> in this line (128)

00:08 <zorak> alphabet_index = (original_char[0] + variance - LETTER_OFFSET)

00:08 <wallerdev> >> [97].pack('C')

00:08 <eval-in> wallerdev => "a" (https://eval.in/134099)

00:08 <zorak> maybe if i add .ord to original_char[0]

00:08 <zorak> ???

00:08 <havenwood> zorak: you want it to work in 1.9+ and 1.8- or just port to modern?

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00:09 <zorak> i doing this book "in the hard way"

00:09 <ocke> havenwood: a thx man

00:09 <ocke> I will update ruby!

00:09 <havenwood> ocke: \o/

00:09 <ocke> it's indeed on 1.8.7

00:09 <zorak> i want it to run, and if i can make it run with a modern ruby, much better

00:10 <havenwood> zorak: replace `'a'[0]` with `'a'.ord` and replace `original_char[0]` with `original_char.ord` etc

00:10 <zorak> havenwood: just tried and dont work

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00:11 <wallerdev> original_char[0].ord

00:11 <havenwood> ^

00:11 <havenwood> zorak: you might want to switch to a modern Ruby tutorial! :P

00:12 <havenwood> zorak: also be warned that "The Hard Way" is quite often not idiomatic Ruby

00:12 <bufferloss> zorak, like this one http://www.codecademy.com/tracks/ruby

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00:12 <bufferloss> ruby is about doing things "the easy way" :)

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00:12 <zorak> bufferloss: already did the code academy course

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00:14 <Dysruption> zorak: http://rubykoans.com/

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00:15 <havenwood> zorak: not to say it isn't worth doing! but yeah, Ruby 2.1.1 is lovely and 1.9.2-and-before are end-of-life.

00:15 <zorak> havenwood: looks like work with original_char[0].ord but i have other problems, go to check if can solved them

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00:17 <zorak> => "xkmokitpofenlibeykhfezl"

00:17 <zorak> [2] pry(main)> candidate.mutate_until_matches!()

00:17 <zorak> NoMethodError: undefined method `-' for "x":String

00:17 <zorak> from ~/methinks.rb:42:in `block in deviance_from'

00:17 <zorak> string #0 = xkmokitpofenlibeykhfezl

00:18 <wallerdev> forgot .ord

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00:21 <davidz_> too many mainstream news sites misreporting the openssl bug

00:21 * davidz_ sigh

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00:22 <wallerdev> what did you expect

00:22 <zorak> i think the problem is the .abs method

00:22 <wallerdev> im sure they dont understand what openssl even is

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00:23 <zorak> is trying to use .abs in a string

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00:23 <wallerdev> well the error you posted says the issue is with the minus method

00:23 <davidz_> wallerdev idk, it just bugs me when the sales department come up here trying to warn me of the issue

00:23 <wallerdev> trying to use it on the string "x"

00:23 <davidz_> and i know this is because they read it on cnn or something

00:23 <davidz_> or w/e they use

00:24 <wallerdev> davidz_: well they're just trying to be helpful, maybe you hadn't heard yet :p

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00:24 <davidz_> yeah i guess so

00:24 <davidz_> :P

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00:24 <zorak> solved!

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00:24 <zorak> deviance += (self[index].ord - target[index].ord).abs

00:25 <zorak> add .ord to self[index] and target[index]

00:26 <shevy> ewww

00:27 <shevy> havenwood the hard way is quite often not idiomatic ruby? how do you know? (I dont know myself because I did not look at it hehehe)

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00:31 <havenwood> shevy: i was running through the python and C hard ways, and couldn't help but take a glance at ruby :P

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00:31 <wallerdev> just add this to the top of your file zorak class String; alias_method :old_index, :[]; def [](i); old_index(i).ord; end; end

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00:31 <wallerdev> problem solved lol

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00:33 <zorak> wallerdev: thank you, already solved adding some .ord's

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00:44 <benzrf> hej da

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00:46 <havenwood> hey

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00:48 <benzrf> dev on quick has been semi-halted while i get help from the creators of dmtcp

00:48 <benzrf> ¬_¬

00:48 <benzrf> this HIGHLY-RELEVANT-TO-UR-INTERESTS NEWS BULLETIN has been brought to you by megaputer

00:48 <benzrf> *ME

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01:19 <shevy> benzrf damn man

01:19 <shevy> I see you are on a GEM EXPLOSION run as of late

01:20 <benzrf> wat

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01:43 * noob101 kisses ruby

01:43 <noob101> I love you ruby

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01:44 <benzrf> noob101: congratulations on not accidentally tab-completing to RubyPanther

01:44 <noob101> Huh?

01:44 <combusean> hey benzrf :)

01:44 <noob101> Hello benzrf, we meet again.

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01:45 <benzrf> thx for the praise combusean

01:45 <combusean> which?

01:45 <combusean> oh yes, :)

01:45 <noob101> I have an issue irrelevant from ruby but I really need help. Can I still ask? :(

01:45 <benzrf> noob101: why not

01:45 <benzrf> worst case we direct u elsewhere

01:45 <wallerdev> #lifeadvice

01:45 <combusean> haha

01:45 <combusean> hey wallerdev

01:45 <wallerdev> hello

01:46 <noob101> Ok so I am getting a job in the summer time. I am 16. I am trying to delete a youtube channel but it won't delete

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01:46 <wallerdev> good luck, google has you forever

01:46 <noob101> I don't know the password or email but I know he username because it was my name

01:46 <noob101> Please help me ;_;, I tried contacting their number, google searching everything I swear password recovery

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01:46 <combusean> wallerdev, thanks for the job lead the other day...i'm employed now but everything is temporary and the interviews were killing me

01:46 <wallerdev> write a ruby script to bruteforce passwords you mightve used

01:46 <noob101> I tried everything please spare my soul. It's so hard, I don't know what to do.

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01:47 <havenwood> noob101: https://www.google.com/accounts/recovery/forgotusername

01:47 <noob101> wallerdev, I am a beginner. I don't know what you mean by that.

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01:47 <wallerdev> combusean: what'd i even send you haha

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01:47 * noob101 hugs havenwood

01:47 <noob101> thank you

01:47 <havenwood> noob101: if you for some reason you really can't access the account, you could file a DMCA takedown request

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01:48 <combusean> oh you mentioned that you knew of a javascript position in SF I believe

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01:48 <wallerdev> ohh

01:48 <wallerdev> cool

01:48 <noob101> You saved my live havenwood, now they might not see my naughty Youtube page. (.")_(.")

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01:48 <havenwood> i'm violating my own copywrite!

01:48 <noob101> lol

01:48 <wallerdev> noob101: everything you do online is there forever

01:48 <noob101> That's not fair.

01:48 <combusean> ooo

01:48 <combusean> I wanna see the naughty youtube page

01:48 <noob101> Noooooo please it's a secret

01:49 <combusean> you have to tell

01:49 <combusean> channel rules

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01:49 <wallerdev> youtube.com/user/noob101

01:49 <combusean> or else you'll get sued by freenode and #ruby.

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01:49 <combusean> j/k

01:49 <wallerdev> anyway i guess this issue stems from the fact that youtube insists you use your real name now

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01:50 <wallerdev> my advice: apply for a summer internship at google and delete your account from the inside

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01:50 <noob101> yeaaah I was thinking about that idea but eh, I don't know I already have a summer internship.

01:51 <noob101> I don't know where though, I am getting the internship through PENCIL Fellows, it's a program for teens.

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01:53 <noob101> havenwood, I am waiting for an email to see if I can find the info for that google+ account I don't know the pass or email too.

01:53 <noob101> Once I find the pass+email to my google+ account then I can delete that youtube page and the google+ page forever

01:53 <noob101> hopefully ;_;

01:53 <wallerdev> anyway time for me to head home

01:53 <wallerdev> later

01:53 <combusean> bye wallerdev

01:53 <noob101> bye bye thanks for stopping bye wallerdev

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01:56 <noob101> If I show you my youtube page can you guys help me take it down?

01:56 <Dysruption> not really anything we can do that you can't...

01:57 <havenwood> noob101: https://www.youtube.com/copyright_complaint_form and choose "Copyright infringement", then carefully follow instructions

01:57 <noob101> Oh ok thanks, I couldn't successfully do the first thing you told me.

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02:00 <noob101> havenwood which one should I pick after I pick copyright infringement?

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02:00 <noob101> "I am!"

02:00 <noob101> "My company, organization, or client"

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02:00 <noob101> or " Another copyright owner"

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02:14 <havenwood> I am!

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02:14 <havenwood> Then you have the right to object to the takedown notice you filed against yourself with a counter-notification.

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02:16 <havenwood> (Don't.)

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02:19 <noob101> havenwood are you there

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02:20 <mozzarella> shevy: brah?

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02:50 <benzrf> wait

02:50 <benzrf> shit

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02:51 <benzrf> i tried to /nick tumbleweed

02:51 <benzrf> hold on is this super lag or something

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02:53 <benzrf> ok let me try this again

02:53 <benzrf> shit.

02:53 <benzrf> nick taken

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03:12 <jcims> quick question, has anyone using the httpproxy built in to webbrick noticed that something is appending an '=' character to JSON posts?

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03:47 <havenwood> later

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06:11 <ak5> hi everyone, I am trying to figure out whether to use middleman or jekyll for static sites

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06:11 <ak5> but I can't find any writeups with pros and cons

06:12 <ak5> I have only ever used jekyll, and it has more stars on github... but not sure. Any opinions?

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06:24 <Burgestrand> ak5: I much prefer middleman.

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06:25 <Burgestrand> ak5: jekyll is nice, but I felt middleman had more extensibility, and I prefer the workflow.

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06:25 <Burgestrand> ak5: I run my blog using jekyll (granted, I made it 3 years ago), and I find it slightly painful to incorporate CSS, image, or javascript preprocessors (e.g. SCSS, CoffeeScript, smushing images) into Jekyll

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06:48 <winux> is using a lamda overkill for generating hashes that whose values depend on some changing counter?

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07:17 <s3ri0us> sorry wrong chanel

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07:45 <ljharb> i've got an array of numbers, mostly zeroes - like [0, 0, 0, 1, 0, 0, 2, 0] - what would be the most rubyish way to get an array from the beginning, up til and including the first nonzero item?

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07:46 <ljharb> in other words [0, 0, 0, 1, 0, 0, 2, 0] should give me [0, 0, 0, 1]

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07:50 <ljharb> take_while seems like it would grab the zeroes but not the "1"

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07:50 <apeiros> ljharb: yeah, take_while was my first thought too, but same issue

07:50 <apeiros> >> ary = [0, 0, 0, 1, 0, 0, 2, 0]; ary.first((ary.find_index { |x| x != 0 } || ary.length) + 1)

07:50 <eval-in> apeiros => [0, 0, 0, 1] (https://eval.in/134232)

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07:50 <ljharb> hm, interesting

07:50 <apeiros> the || ary.length is for the case where your array consists of only zeroes or is empty

07:51 <ljharb> currently it's a while loop that pushes into an array, and i'm trying to make it a bit more elegant

07:51 <ljharb> that's clever but doesn't seem more readable :-/

07:51 <dagobah> You could use #take_while and #each_cons maybe?

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07:52 <ljharb> how could i use those together?

07:52 <dagobah> Um

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07:52 <dagobah> >> [0, 0, 0, 1, 0, 0, 2, 0].take_while{|i| i.zero? }

07:52 <eval-in> dagobah => [0, 0, 0] (https://eval.in/134233)

07:52 <dagobah> gets you everything up to but not including

07:52 <apeiros> ljharb: a begin/end while loop might be the most readable

07:53 <ljharb> sigh, that's what i was afraid of

07:53 <dagobah> so you might be able to "look ahead" using an each_cons(2)?

07:53 <apeiros> ljharb: though, have you tested against empty array and array of zeroes?

07:54 <apeiros> those edge cases can make it less readable quickly

07:54 <ljharb> yeah, true. i'll have to play with it and see what i can come up with

07:54 <ljharb> lol i may have even misread the existing "while" loop, so maybe it's not that clear as-is

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07:55 <ljharb> existing is: result = [] ; while foo.any? { |x| x > 0 } ; result.push(foo.unshift) ; end

07:55 <ljharb> so i guess actually it's just taking all the zeroes off the end?

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07:55 <ljharb> or rather off the beginning

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07:58 <ljharb> no, off the end

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07:58 <apeiros> huh? that code seems broken…

07:58 <apeiros> unshift is to add elements, not to remove

07:59 <apeiros> that is, foo.unshift is a no-op. it'll just return foo

07:59 <ljharb> oh sorry i mistyped

07:59 <ljharb> foo.shift

07:59 <ljharb> so i think maybe i could do "result = foo.reverse.drop_while { |x| x <= 0 }.reverse" ?

07:59 <apeiros> and foo.any? will test all elements of foo

08:00 <apeiros> ah

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08:01 <ak5> Burgestrand: thanks for the info

08:01 <Burgestrand> :)

08:01 <apeiros> while mine isn't necessarily the most readable, it at least doesn't iterate the source array N times

08:02 <ljharb> yeah definitely

08:02 <ljharb> thanks for the tip, i'll play with it some more and make sure it's tested first

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08:03 <dagobah> I'm sure you could play around with:

08:03 <dagobah> >> [0, 0, 0, 1, 0, 0, 2, 0].each_cons(2).take_while{|a,b| a.zero?}.flatten

08:03 <eval-in> dagobah => [0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1] (https://eval.in/134236)

08:03 <dagobah> It's not correct as is however :)

08:03 <ljharb> that's the wrong order, but i see what you mean

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08:05 <dagobah> >> [0, 0, 0, 1, 0, 0, 2, 0].unshift(0).each_cons(2).take_while{|a,_| a.zero?}.map(&:last)

08:05 <eval-in> dagobah => [0, 0, 0, 1] (https://eval.in/134237)

08:06 <dagobah> Would that work>

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08:07 <ljharb> interesting

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08:08 <ljharb> altho i think the original algorithm (now that i reread it) would result in [0, 0, 0, 1, 0, 0, 2]

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08:09 <dagobah> I don't think it does, unless I'm missing something.

08:09 <ljharb> it says "while foo has anything greater than zero, keep grabbing the first item on the array and prepend it to result"

08:10 <ljharb> which means it shouldn't stop until there's nothing left in "foo" but zeroes

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08:11 <dagobah> Oh, you're talking about your while foo.any? { |x| x > 0 } ; result.push(foo.unshift) solution?

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08:11 <ljharb> yeah

08:11 <ljharb> i'd initially misread it

08:12 <dagobah> I was claiming that [0, 0, 0, 1, 0, 0, 2, 0].unshift(0).each_cons(2).take_while{|a,_| a.zero?}.map(&:last) would work :)

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08:12 <ljharb> ah

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08:14 <dagobah> Take each pair, keeping only the pairs that have their first item as a zero (second is non-zero), and then take the last of each of the pairs.

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08:15 <dagobah> We unshift(0) to stop the take_while stopping short.

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08:19 <olivier_bK> i need some advice about a development for socket API

08:19 <olivier_bK> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/6dd218ad809bca300d58

08:19 <j416> I'm looking for a nice way to combine documentation and specs; I like the approach that relishapp.com has taken. I want something similar but that is offline. Ideas?

08:19 <j416> we're currently using rspec and rdoc, the optimal thing would be to be able to combine those two

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08:59 <W1LF> hi

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09:05 <W1LF> any rails guy here?

09:06 <Hanmac1> W1LF #RubyOnRails

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09:18 <W1LF> any ruby guy here?

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09:18 <Tuxified> about 800 I guess, why?

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09:19 <W1LF> i'm searching for interesting gems

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09:19 <W1LF> in webdevelopment

09:20 <shevy> W1LF there are a million interesting gems

09:20 <shevy> some of them only on github though

09:20 <W1LF> hmm.. let's be specific though

09:21 <W1LF> i need pagination in my web.. there are?

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09:22 <W1LF> welcome

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09:26 <shevy> no idea

09:28 <W1LF> any learning resource website?

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09:34 * W1LF sigh

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09:36 <apeiros> W1LF: ruby-toolbox.com

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09:58 <gaussblurinc> hi! I have several classes that I want to include to my script. they stored in module, but module folder differ from script folder. how to add module with classes to script?

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10:04 <shevy> gaussblurinc your question is sort of incoherent

10:05 <shevy> In general, the best way to structure your project is to have it be structured in a gem-fit layout.

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10:05 <shevy> such as, if the name is 'foobar', have it lib/foobar/ and lib/foobar.rb where foobar.rb is the first file run when you do a: require 'foobar'

10:06 <shevy> once you have it, if you wish to use this in any other .rb file, you only have to do a require 'foobar' on top of that file, and that shall pull in all the files of that project

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10:09 <gaussblurinc> shevy: so, I don't have simple mechanism to input my classes to simple script except copypaste?

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10:15 <Tuxified> gaussblurinc: what shevy is trying to say "if you structure your project well, just use require 'class' and it works" :)

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10:16 <shevy> gaussblurinc you have require() and load()

10:16 <shevy> gaussblurinc I dont know how that means copy paste ;)

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10:18 <gaussblurinc> Tuxified: uh, this is not a project, just another standalone script :(

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10:18 <gaussblurinc> gaussblurinc: yeah, require is good enough:)

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10:21 <gaussblurinc> shevy: yeah, require is good enough :)

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10:22 <shevy> hehe

10:22 <shevy> did you talk to yourself just now :D

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10:41 <Waheedi> someone asked me what hack for file editing with ruby the other day. are you still there my friend?

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10:45 <txdv> is there an activerecord channel?

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10:49 <Hanmac> txdv: try #RubyOnRails

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10:50 <txdv> ac goes hand in hand with ror, thanks Hanmac

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10:59 <LLKCKfan> Is there a way to install a device software and make it stay installed? more info here pastebin.com/70Z5P5Yu along with scan shoots

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11:24 <txdv> I have strings like "R\xF6ntgen", the escaped code is an ASCII code in german, do you guys know how I can tell ruby to convert these to utf8?

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11:26 <toretore> String#encode

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11:28 <txdv> yeah

11:28 <txdv> that string is already in utf8

11:28 <txdv> dunno what to do with encode

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11:30 <bhaak> that's wrong. that string is in latin1/iso-8859-1

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11:31 <bhaak> string = "R\xF6ntgen".force_encoding("ISO-8859-1").encode("UTF-8")

11:31 <bhaak> string.encoding => #<Encoding:UTF-8>

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11:33 <bhaak> if string.encode("UTF-8") doesn't work then the string hasn't been correctly read in. encoding() would show #<Encoding:ASCII-8BIT> instead of #<Encoding:ISO-8859-1>

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11:36 <txdv> bhaak: yeah the string hasn't been correctly read in

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11:37 <txdv> o

11:37 <txdv> i have to force encode it, i see

11:37 <txdv> thank you very much

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13:01 <jlebrech> hi

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13:08 <olivier_bK> i need some explication because i try to do something and i get much better but i dont know why ??

13:08 <olivier_bK> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/0322888ef5bb1122fee2

13:09 <olivier_bK> i use self.send in my method hash_converter but why he try to find a methode with the same name as k ?

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13:10 <canton7-mac> do you know what 'send' does?

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13:17 <jlebrech> If other people find it hard to understand your code, could that be considered technical debt?

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13:20 <ghr> jlebrech to some extent, yes, but that obviously depends on the domain knowledge, experience and ability of the other people :)

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13:23 <olivier_bK> canton7, send is equivalent to

13:23 <olivier_bK> self.name = "John Smith"

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13:26 <canton7-mac> olivier_bK, you asked: "i use self.send in my method hash_converter but why he try to find a methode with the same name as k ?". that's because 'send' tries to find a method with the same name as k, and calls that metho

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13:26 <canton7-mac> that's what is does. by definition

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13:27 <olivier_bK> thanks for the explication

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13:31 <spstarr_work> wow :)

13:31 <spstarr_work> ruby loves bacon

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13:31 <spstarr_work> #!/bin/env ruby # -*- coding: utf-8 -*- class FooBar @≋ = 'BACON' attr_reader :≋ def initialize @≋ = 'MOAR BACON' end end puts "#{FooBar.instance_variable_get(:@≋)} LIVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" puts "I really love #{FooBar.new.≋}!!!!!!!"

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13:31 <spstarr_work> I didn't expect it to allow unicode variables :)

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14:16 <jbzt> I want to create a bunch of boiler plate ruby classes all based on a template, then edit them from there. I’ve already encapulsated based functionality in a common ancestor, this is just a kick starter for new classes. Is there preferred way to do this? Rails has generators, but is there a standard Ruby pattern to do something similar? I was thinking Rake and something like ERB.

14:16 <banister> jbzt look at bones

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14:16 <banister> jbzt https://github.com/TwP/bones

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14:18 <jbzt> banister: thanks, I’ll take a look. Hopefully it can be used on a smaller scale and not just generating projects

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14:19 <apeiros> jbzt: IMO if you need code generators, you're doing something wrong

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14:22 <jbzt> apeiros: I struggled (and I guess still stuggling) with that. Basically I have a factory method and this code kicks off creating new implementations of those factory classes

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14:28 <cjuehring> has anyone else out there had trouble with the sqlite3 gem building on osx 10.9?

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14:28 <cjuehring> http://pastebin.com/MCzMgWcJ

14:29 <danijoo> @cjuehrig did u install mysql?

14:29 <danijoo> its needed to build the gem

14:29 <canton7-mac> mysql? for sqlite? wat?

14:29 <danijoo> oh

14:29 <danijoo> misread sry

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14:30 <danijoo> thought you are talking about the mysql gem because i had problems with that few days ago :>

14:30 <cjuehring> yeah, i've had lots of issues with gem and pip failing to build lately

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14:31 <danijoo> yeah lots of gems are not ready for 10.9 yet

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14:32 <cjuehring> makes me sad, kind of broke my environment for the morning

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14:34 <danijoo> hm. i just tried it on my mac and it worked.

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14:34 <danijoo> Successfully installed sqlite3-1.3.9

14:34 <danijoo> 1 gem installed

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14:35 <cjuehring> hmm perhaps i should confirm my xcode commandline tools are properly set up

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14:36 <cjuehring> bah

14:36 <cjuehring> seems to be

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14:38 <danijoo> check this: http://bruteforce.gr/bypassing-clang-error-unknown-argument.html

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14:38 <danijoo> "It turns out that the latest (5.1) version of Xcode ships with a compiler that treats unknown passed parameters as errors."

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14:39 <cjuehring> thanks danijoo, this is exactly what i've been running into with both python and ruby packages

14:39 <cjuehring> as described in the article

14:39 <danijoo> you are welcome

14:39 <cjuehring> elevate warnings into breaking it

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14:39 <danijoo> maybe it only works for me because I didnt upgrade xcode since ages :D

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14:40 <danijoo> (and now wont do it ever)

14:40 <cjuehring> haha, yeah, i'm on the latest

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14:42 <cjuehring> that worked.

14:42 <danijoo> :)

14:42 <cjuehring> awww yeeaahhh.

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14:43 <benzrf> hello rubyers

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14:47 <TheLarkInn> Hi all!! Any Sequel gem pro's here?

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15:11 <cjuehring> as it always is, one problem begets another. http://pastebin.com/umsG0R72

15:12 <cjuehring> i was able to build sqlite3 with the environment vars in that article, but sass doesn't seem impressed

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15:31 <Takumo> Hi all, I'm trying to secure my Grape API with Warden, I'm wondering what the best way is to supply the access token is

15:31 <Takumo> should I use a X-ACCESS-TOKEN HTTP header, or just have an access_token parameter, and in either case, how would I read that from the request?

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16:02 <jvdp> i am new to ruby, i have a .each do function to show a price from items in a hash, that works fine, and it prints a line per item, now i also want to have the sum of all items. How can I do this/

16:03 <hoelzro> jvdp: you can sum up the values by hand

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16:03 <hoelzro> but there's a shorter way too

16:03 <hoelzro> you can use inject/reduce

16:03 * hoelzro .oO( There might even be a sum method... )

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16:03 <jvdp> for each iteration it should save the total value and adds it to the grandtotal

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16:04 <benzrf> inject is fun

16:04 <benzrf> jvdp: if you have any knowledge of haskell or lisp or other FP u may know inject as fold or reduce

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16:05 <jvdp> ok let me see

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16:06 <workmad3> benzrf: you can even use .reduce instead of .inject

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16:07 <benzrf> nonsense

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16:09 <workmad3> benzrf: I find it kinda weird that many people use .map/.inject rather than .map/.reduce, seeing as ruby has .collect/.inject for smalltalkers and .map/.reduce for FPers :)

16:09 <benzrf> :I

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16:16 <banister> workmad3 real FPers call it foldl ;)

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16:19 <benzrf> banister: what about foldl1 tho

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16:19 <banister> benzrf ? we're just talking about how functional programmers would refer to Enumerable#inject

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16:49 <lethjakman> is @blah = blah.tap any different from @blah = begin end ?

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16:49 <f0ster`> anyone remmeber when jetbrains had all their IDEs super cheap ?

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16:50 <DouweM> lethjakman: one's a language construct and the other is a method? begin/end is definitely more performant

16:51 <lethjakman> DouweM: interesting, very good to know.

16:51 <lethjakman> thank you.

16:51 <apeiros> lethjakman: they have nothing to do with each other

16:51 <lethjakman> apeiros: no?

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16:51 <apeiros> begin/end will return whatever the last expression is

16:51 <apeiros> blah.tap will return blah

16:51 <apeiros> (no matter what the last expression is)

16:51 <DouweM> yeah, I'm not sure where you got the idea from that they have the same function

16:51 <lethjakman> I'm trying to figure out this bit and why they didn't use tap: https://github.com/rails/rails/blob/master/railties/lib/rails/engine/configuration.rb#L39-L71

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16:52 <lethjakman> apeiros: can't you edit blah inside of the tap?

16:52 <apeiros> lethjakman: yes

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16:52 <lethjakman> then why would you use begin/end enstead of tap in what I just posted?

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16:52 <lethjakman> they're returning the last object to set it equal.

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16:52 <DouweM> lethjakman: performance, probably

16:53 <DouweM> lethjakman: in that case, they could indeed have used tap

16:53 <apeiros> doubt it

16:53 <DouweM> doubt what?

16:53 <apeiros> that its for performance reasons

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16:53 <lethjakman> apeiros: what do you think the reason is?

16:53 <DouweM> I mean it's probably not a conscious decision

16:53 <apeiros> lethjakman: I don't think there's a specific reason

16:53 <lethjakman> they act the same in that situation though?

16:53 <apeiros> whoever wrote that probably didn't even consider tap

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16:53 <elektronaut> holdover from 1.8.x maybe? tap was introduced in ruby 1.9

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16:54 <lethjakman> hmmm

16:54 <lethjakman> perhaps.

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16:54 <lethjakman> very interesting.

16:54 <apeiros> lethjakman: you could use tap there, yes. the two are still unrelated.

16:54 <havenwood> lethjakman: there is often not a why for Rails code

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16:54 <benzrf> fuck yea

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16:55 <lethjakman> havenwood: very fair lol.

16:55 <lethjakman> thank you

16:55 <lethjakman> that answers my question, I appreciate it.

16:55 <benzrf> i just made a hacky prototype of a vim plugin that would let you press a keybind and select some code, then a pry on the result of evalling it pops up in a new term window

16:55 <benzrf> B)

16:55 <benzrf> quick woo

16:55 <lethjakman> benzrf: ooooo

16:55 <benzrf> we smalltalk now

16:55 <DouweM> benzrf: hehe nice

16:55 <lethjakman> benzrf: get it up on github!

16:55 <benzrf> lethjakman: have i mentioned my current project to you yet o3o

16:55 <benzrf> it's part of that

16:56 <lethjakman> benzrf: I don't think so?

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16:56 <benzrf> lethjakman: Quick

16:56 <benzrf> 1 sec

16:56 <benzrf> lethjakman: are you familiar with typescripts as produced by quick(1)

16:56 <benzrf> * script(1)

16:56 <lethjakman> no.

16:56 <benzrf> kk

16:56 <benzrf> lethjakman: https://github.com/benzrf/quick/tree/master/demo <- download those two files

16:56 <benzrf> resize your terminal to 124 x 33

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16:57 <benzrf> run 'scriptreplay timing -s typescript'

16:57 <benzrf> & enjoy the demo :-)

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17:02 <benzrf> lethjakman: quick is currently in omegahm

17:03 <benzrf> *omega

17:03 <benzrf> lethjakman: it's like alpha but further back, so it loops around to the end

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17:03 <benzrf> >tfw underflow

17:03 <f0ster`> anyone know a jetbrains coupon ? :D

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17:06 <benzrf> lethjakman: is it playin correctly

17:06 <wallerdev> morning :)

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17:10 <lethjakman> benzrf: very interesting! sounds nice!

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17:12 <benzrf> lethjakman: :3

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17:13 <ori> hey, i remember ruby having some syntactic sugar for calling a method on each item in enumerable, like collection.map(:@foo) or something, but now i can't remember what it was exactly

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17:13 <ori> anyone know what i am thinking of?

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17:13 <benzrf> ori: you can use &foo to pass a block arg from a value

17:13 <havenwood> ori: ampersand for to_proc

17:14 <apeiros> ori: e.g. ary.map(&:to_i)

17:14 <benzrf> ori: and symbols' to_proc makes a Proc that calls the symbols' method on the arg

17:14 <ori> ah yes, that's it!

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17:14 <benzrf> >> some_proc = :to_s.to_proc; some_proc.call 3

17:14 <eval-in> benzrf => "3" (https://eval.in/134541)

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17:14 <benzrf> >> some_proc = :to_s.to_proc; [1, 2, 3].map(&some_proc)

17:14 <eval-in> benzrf => ["1", "2", "3"] (https://eval.in/134542)

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17:14 <benzrf> >> [1, 2, 3].map(&:to_s)

17:14 <eval-in> benzrf => ["1", "2", "3"] (https://eval.in/134543)

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17:15 * ori nods

17:15 <ori> thanks very much benzrf, havenwood, apeiros -- benzrf especially since i now not only know the notation but also understand it! :)

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17:15 <benzrf> np =)

17:15 <benzrf> & will use to_proc to coerce if possible in case it wasnt ovcious

17:15 <f0ster`> how many of you use vim for development ?

17:16 <lethjakman> f0ster`: me :)

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17:17 <benzrf> f0ster`: i do too!

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17:18 <DouweM> I should really find some time to build a *good* gem for finding song lyrics

17:18 <lethjakman> seems like it's mostly between sublime or vim.

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17:18 <DouweM> then hook it up to this: https://github.com/DouweM/shoutout and see lyrics while I'm listening to the radio :)

17:18 <lethjakman> DouweM: if you can make one that would find a song by guitar riffs I'd like it :)

17:18 <lethjakman> do doo do do dooooo

17:18 <DouweM> lethjakman: hehe

17:18 <lethjakman> what song is taht?

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17:20 <workmad3> lethjakman: heh, reminds me of a lyric... "oh son, won't you play us a melody, I'm not really sure how it goes, but it's short and it's sweet'

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17:20 <workmad3> etc...

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17:20 <f0ster`> lethjakman, benzrf macvim and janus? i've used vim for a long tikme but i usually use IDES for things like jumping to declarations etc

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17:20 <lethjakman> f0ster`: fuzzy searching.

17:20 <DouweM> workmad3: how did that reming you of piano man?

17:20 <DouweM> *remind

17:20 <lethjakman> workmad3: who doesn't love billy joel :)

17:20 <workmad3> DouweM: 'do doo do do dooo - what song is that'?

17:21 <DouweM> aah, like that :)

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17:21 <workmad3> lethjakman: members of the 'I hate billy joel' fan club?

17:21 <lethjakman> workmad3: they're not real people.

17:21 <lethjakman> they don't count.

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17:22 <workmad3> lethjakman: heh

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17:22 <vasilakisFiL> hi.. I am building a warden plugin for rails that authenticates the user based on its ip.. how can I test that? I was thinking to build another warden middleware, insert it before the first one and through that inject any data I want..

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17:24 <DouweM> you sure that's a good idea?

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17:25 <vasilakisFiL> DouweM I don't know.. do you have any better solution ?

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17:25 <jhass> I'm sure it's not a good idea

17:25 <DouweM> yeah, that.

17:25 <DouweM> why do you wanna auth on IP?

17:25 <vasilakisFiL> ok good to know that

17:25 <wallerdev> sounds fine to me

17:25 <lethjakman> vasilakisFiL: using your session?

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17:25 <lethjakman> vasilakisFiL: I've actually run into software that does that. humblebundle did for a while

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17:26 <lethjakman> logged into my VPN and was logged into someone elses account.

17:26 <vasilakisFiL> DouweM it is for multiple users that belong to a certain company that has one or more static ips

17:26 <lethjakman> actually. it wasn't humble bundle, it was that big crowd funding software.

17:26 <wallerdev> yeah i wouldnt do it for anything public

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17:27 <vasilakisFiL> lethjakman what do you mean using my session? I get the ip from the rack

17:27 <lethjakman> vasilakisFiL: use session logins rather than IP

17:27 <jhass> ip spoofing is easy, if don't trust the people that have network level access they can just trigger actions. They won't get the reply but still very dangerous

17:27 <lethjakman> I'd recommend some sort of distributed keys.

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17:28 <vasilakisFiL> the thing is that I have to use IPs because I was told so.. so do you have any better idea on how to test it ?

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17:30 <lethjakman> vasilakisFiL: hmmm. alright. no I don't but I would like to pass this on to you: https://security.stackexchange.com/questions/13255/how-secure-can-ip-based-login-be

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17:34 <mostlybadfly> hi all, was wondering if i could get some help with iterating within nested hashes and arrays: https://gist.github.com/mostlybadfly/edbd553cfc0661b7ddfa

17:34 <mostlybadfly> i know the example is poor and doesn't account for all, wasn't too sure how to even start

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17:35 <mostlybadfly> fwiw this is the output apple_pie:sugar1cbutter1tblapples1c1. Combine ingredients2. Mix ingredients

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17:36 <jhass> mostlybadfly: that datastructure doesn't make a lot of sense for the data you're modeling. Better would be {name: name, ingredients: ingredients, instructions: instructions}

17:36 <vasilakisFiL> lethjakman it is dangerous but it won't be the end of the world.. I think other problems will make the transition to a proper authentication such as you can't do any data analysis about the user preferences and in essence you have very little meta-data about the users

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17:37 <jhass> mostlybadfly: that be one recipe and for a collection of recipes you just make an array of those

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17:37 <mostlybadfly> jhass: ok that makes perfect sense, the more i look at it the more i was wondering why i made it like that haha

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17:37 <mostlybadfly> so it would be more like cookbook = [ recipe1 , recipe2, etc. ] ?

17:38 <jhass> yep

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17:38 <mostlybadfly> ok, let me rework this, makes a lot more sense for printing too

17:38 <mostlybadfly> thanks jhass :)

17:38 <Veejay> You could also have a Recipe class

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17:38 <Veejay> And go nuts

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17:39 <mostlybadfly> yeah i'm actually trying to figure out to which extent I want to do that. right now i'm just working with asking for recipe input and putting it into a hash

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17:39 <Veejay> Yeah hashes will do fine for the time being

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17:39 <mostlybadfly> basically using a case statement of when "New" prompt for title, ingredients, instructions, then push that to a hash/array

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17:40 <mostlybadfly> i'd imagine for displaying or modification purposes a class would be great

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17:40 <mostlybadfly> i'm having a hard time properly writing an initialize method and where everything would go

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17:41 <mostlybadfly> i'm thinking reworking the data structur will help

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17:42 <mostlybadfly> oh i remember jhass my initial thought would be to have just a list of ingredients so that they can be later referenced, i wanted to avoid combining quantities with ingredients. my primary confusion was how to structure ingredients and quantity. i'll have to rethink my approach

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17:47 <alekst> Module::InnerModule.method = !!object[:symbol]. Any idea on how to refactor this to avoid the double negation?

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17:48 <jhass> alekst: what's the purpose of it?

17:48 <jhass> what does object[:symbol] return?

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17:49 <Hanmac1> alekst: you can do (object[:symbol] && true) but that doesnt make more or less sense

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17:49 <alekst> object[:symbol] returns a boolean

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17:50 <jhass> then just rip it out

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17:50 <jhass> it just wastes time

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17:50 <Veejay> The !! makes it booleaner though

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17:50 <Veejay> i.e. the true true

17:50 <alekst> the !! is not the style.

17:51 <jhass> >> true.object_id == (!!true).object_id

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17:51 <eval-in> jhass => true (https://eval.in/134553)

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17:51 <jhass> Veejay: ^ that's truer now?

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17:51 <Veejay> jhass: I was being goofy though

17:51 <jhass> I tried to be goofier

17:52 <Veejay> You succeeded :(

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17:52 <Hanmac1> alekst: !! turns a value into a boolean, so not-false and not-nil into true

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17:56 <alekst> Hanmac1 I understand that. I wonder how to avoid the double negation.

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17:57 <Hanmac> when the value you got is not a boolean, and you need a boolean, then you might not able to avoid it

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17:57 <jhass> alekst: you're saying object[:symbol] already returns a boolean. There's zero need to "cast" it into a boolean then

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17:58 <alekst> I'll tinker with it some more. thanks for your help though.

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18:36 <sdelmore> I have a random naming question not at all related to ruby, hoping for some input though. What would you call a class that segments a binary data stream into chunks that can be parsed. It doesn't actually parse the rows, just knows to grab the next n bytes and pass them to another class to parse.

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18:38 <wallerdev> StreamSlicer

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18:39 <wallerdev> since it's basically like each_slice

18:39 <v0n> hi

18:39 <wallerdev> hi

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18:40 <ccham> I'd probably just name it WhateverStream and implement e.g. each_chunk

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18:42 <v0n> is there a way to apply a sed substitute expression to a string? e.g. "foobar".sed("s/ob/uu/g") # => "fouuar"

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18:42 <v0n> something like that

18:42 <jhass> v0n: sub/gsub

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18:43 <v0n> jhass: yeah but it takes 2 arguments, and you have to check for a "/g" suffix to know if you'll call sub() or gsub()

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18:44 <jhass> well, what are you really doing here?

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18:45 <v0n> As I said, I was wondering if there was a substitute method which takes a complete expression instead of several arguments

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18:45 <apeiros> v0n: no, there isn't

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18:45 <v0n> ok

18:45 <jhass> that's the solution you'd like, not the problem you're solving

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18:46 <v0n> jhass: built-in* if it makes the question clearer ^^ but apeiros answered

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18:46 <jhass> still

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18:47 <v0n> jhass: ok got it, => I need to apply a substitution of text with a expression (sed-like) given by the user)

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18:47 <jhass> is that the user have to give it as a sed like expression your own requirement or are you just supposed to implement it?

18:47 <wallerdev> just shell it out to sed haha

18:48 <jhass> isn't sed touring complete? :P

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18:48 <jhass> I've seen tetris in it

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18:48 <wallerdev> it's tetris-complete then

18:48 <jhass> dangerous enough for me

18:49 <v0n> jhass: 2nd, because s/foo/bar/g is quite usual, I wanted to shell it out, but what about giving something like "s/foo/bar ; rm -rf ~"

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18:49 <v0n> idealy, I'd like to avoid that ^^

18:49 <ccham> if you don't really care about full sed (just s/old/new(/g)), i'd just parse it and use sub/gsub.

18:49 <wallerdev> escape your input

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18:49 <v0n> then the expression will be escaped and will certainly not work, right?

18:50 <jhass> system('/usr/bin/sed', user_input), don't even invoke a shell

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18:50 <jhass> but I mean it's fairly easy to parse

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18:50 <v0n> ccham: yeah, I'm about to write a String#sed(exp) which does the switch

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18:50 <wallerdev> seems like it'd be a pain to parse with escaped slashes

18:51 <v0n> jhass: ho, a shell isn't forked with system() ?

18:51 <jhass> not in all forms iirc

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18:53 <v0n> jhass: ok then there's no issue with that

18:53 <banister> apeiros ping

18:53 <jhass> I think I'd still parse it

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18:54 <v0n> something like String#sed exp ; system('sed', exp) or raise "bad expression"; end

18:54 <v0n> jhass: why/.

18:54 <v0n> ?*

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18:54 <jhass> something like command, regex, substitute, flags = input.split(%r{(?<!\\)/|\\\\/})

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18:56 <jhass> because I consider sed to powerful for user input

18:56 <v0n> hum.

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18:56 <jhass> %r{(?<!\\)/|(?<=\\\\)/} actually

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18:56 <v0n> and anyway, I have to parse the input to know if it's a sed-like expression :)

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18:58 <Nowaker> how do I count a number of method calls when unit testing? I need to make sure :method method on the instance is called n times.

18:59 <jhass> Nowaker: what framework?

18:59 <Nowaker> jhass: test::unit or rspec, I use both in my project

18:59 <jhass> in rspec: expect(foo).to receive(:bar).exactly(n).times iirc

18:59 <Nowaker> thanks, I will check that

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19:00 <Nowaker> you are right, thanks.

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19:05 <v0n> jhass: what kind of regex is that? perl,ruby posix?

19:05 <jhass> uh, I'm no expert into the differences here

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19:05 <jhass> it uses a negative and a positive lookbehind

19:05 <jhass> perl and ruby do that, not sure about posix

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19:06 <v0n> didn't know the ?<! syntax

19:06 <apeiros> banister: pong

19:06 <jhass> google lookaround expressions

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19:06 <v0n> haha I look at the expression and I understand nothing

19:07 <banister> apeiros can i PM u?

19:07 <apeiros> banister: sure

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19:07 <apeiros> jhass: (?<!\\) won't attribute for escaped backslashes

19:07 <jhass> (?<!\\)/ say match a / unless it is preceded by a \, (?<=\\\\)/ says match a / if it is preceded by \\. The escaping makes it harder to read

19:07 <jhass> apeiros: not?

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19:08 <jhass> hm, okay probably I didn't think about the \\\\\/ case

19:08 <apeiros> I'd have to look into what you suggested, but I think not

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19:13 <Nowaker> jhass: btw, I found no real gain from using rspec compared to test-unit. having receive.exactly.times is a strong reason for rspec. thank you very much for opening my eyes! :)

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19:31 <atmosx> shevy: you here?

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19:31 <sdelmore> wallerdev: Sorry for the delayed response, I got pulled into a meeting. StreamSlicer is perfect, thanks.

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19:32 <shevy> atmosx yeah, had a nap, just woke up, still dizzy in the head

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19:40 <atmosx> shevy: have you used 'bio' gem?

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19:43 <shevy> you mean bioruby?

19:43 <shevy> a little

19:43 <shevy> I dont like it much

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19:47 <atmosx> shevy: why is that?

19:47 <shevy> atmosx I dunno, I find it super hard to use it for anything

19:47 <shevy> I mean, once you start to use it, what exactly are you doing with it?

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19:48 <atmosx> shevy: I need to write a simple sequencing program

19:49 <atmosx> I wrote one actually some time ago, and still works, but I'd like to get the position of the AA in the DNA, actually the codons

19:49 <atmosx> and that's tricky

19:49 <atmosx> at least the way I figure it out was, use each_with_index create a hash

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19:50 <atmosx> and then match if the sequence is found, get from teh hash the values of first and last codon

19:50 <shevy> hmm

19:50 <atmosx> but there are some classes in the gem that are called 'AAindex' but it's hard to figure out how they work

19:51 <atmosx> http://rubydoc.info/gems/bio/1.4.3.0001/frames

19:51 <atmosx> I mean all my problems should be already solved by this gem, it's like I'm doing anything new

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19:52 <shevy> hey

19:52 <shevy> I find it hard to figure out what ANYTHING of it does ;)

19:52 <atmosx> hah

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19:52 <atmosx> okay, I'll see if I can work out with the classes the it has... otherwise I'll roll mine

19:52 <benzrf> hello ruby losers

19:52 <benzrf> er i mean rubyists

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19:54 <Marfi> hello

19:54 <Marfi> (how embeding mruby in C program?)

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19:56 <momomomomo> Quick q - In CSV.read(r+) I’m having a difficult time finding a method to overwrite the current csv::row’s value - is it even possible (2.0)?

19:57 <momomomomo> I see IO::open has lineno=

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19:57 <momomomomo> ah pos=

19:57 <momomomomo> der

19:58 <momomomomo> nope :x

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20:05 <havenwood> Marfi: compile your mruby into C byecode array to embed and compile

20:05 <momomomomo> csv.open*

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20:06 <Marfi> havenwood, is possible to not compile my code? normaly, run normal text / script

20:06 <havenwood> Marfi: yes

20:06 <havenwood> Marfi: there's a REPL too

20:06 <Marfi> havenwood, documentation is to old

20:06 <havenwood> mirb

20:07 <Marfi> havenwood, can You show me any working example?

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20:07 <Marfi> havenwood, I'm trying 2 days

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20:08 <havenwood> Marfi: here's a trivial fizz-buzz: https://github.com/havenwood/mruby-fizzbuzz

20:08 * Marfi looking

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20:09 <havenwood> Marfi: i should add the commands to recreate etc, sorry it is shoddy

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20:09 <havenwood> Marfi: here's something non-trivial: https://github.com/postmodern/badger/tree/rewrite#readme

20:09 <Marfi> havenwood, where is Makefile?

20:09 <centrx> havenwood, so mruby actually translates into a C file with byte code?

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20:10 <havenwood> centrx: yeah, you can just embed it in C if you want

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20:11 <havenwood> http://www.mruby.org/about/

20:11 <Marfi> is ruby2c

20:12 <havenwood> not many people in #mruby yet

20:12 <havenwood> yeah, the readme could use some love: https://github.com/mruby/mruby#readme

20:12 <havenwood> but mruby seems to be progressing rapidly :D

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20:13 <toothe> I'm attempting to run a program but it says I need to install nokogirl. I did gem install nokogirl, but it still says I need to install nokogiri.

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20:13 <havenwood> toothe: what do you get for `which gem` and `which ruby`?

20:13 <bricker> toothe: nokogirl/nokogiri ?

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20:13 <toothe> i did gem intsall nokogiri.

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20:14 <bricker> toothe: how are you running the program? Did you require 'nokogiri' at the top?

20:14 <toothe> I did ./cewl.rb.

20:14 <Marfi> havenwood, Your first code have no MAKEFILE, I can compile it

20:14 <bricker> toothe: Are you using rvm/gemsets, or bundler, or neither?

20:15 <toothe> honestly, I don't know.

20:15 <Marfi> havenwood, second no have Makefile too

20:15 <toothe> I'm a Ubuntu user, if that helps.

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20:15 <havenwood> Marfi: i'll fix it soon, i manually ran commands

20:15 <bricker> toothe: type 'gem which nokogiri' to confirm it's installed. What's the source of the program?

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20:15 <Marfi> havenwood, how fix this depreciated code? mrb_run(mrb, mrb_proc_new(mrb, mrb->irep[n]), mrb_nil_value());

20:16 <bricker> toothe: or 'gem list nokogiri' is probably better

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20:17 <havenwood> toothe: Gist results for: gem env

20:17 <havenwood> toothe: telling us what you get for `which gem` and `which ruby` might help.

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20:25 <havenwood> toothe: check that you get what you expect for `update-alternatives --config ruby` and `update-alternatives --config gem`.

20:26 <havenwood> (assuming you're not using a Ruby version manager.)

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20:32 <benzrf> sup combusean

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20:42 <jeffleeismyhero> I'm trying to replace occurrences of "\N" in a file. I can't seem to find a way to do it that doesn't interpret it.

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20:43 <centrx> Escape the backslash with another backslash

20:43 <jeffleeismyhero> I've tried that but it still chokes

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20:44 <ccham> You could also '\N' instead of "\\N"

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20:45 <jeffleeismyhero> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/10313144

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20:46 <ccham> "foo \\N".gsub('\N', ' ')

20:46 <ccham> or 'foo \N'

20:46 <rm-rf-etc> I'm having trouble navigating the docs for our outdated rails version. Does anyone happen to know if rails 1.2.3 had a globally accessible config object which contains the hash from database.yml?

20:46 <jeffleeismyhero> The string is not something I'm creating

20:46 <jeffleeismyhero> It's being read in from a file

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20:46 <ccham> That's fine, the test strings are though.

20:47 <ccham> When you make the string like "foo \N" it interprets the backslash as an escape, whereas from a file, it won't

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20:48 <havenwood> rm-rf-etc: try #rubyonrails

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20:48 <rm-rf-etc> thnx

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20:51 <jeffleeismyhero> ccham: Thanks,

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20:51 <jeffleeismyhero> I'll try that out

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20:59 <shevy> I hate that rubygems.org allows only one name for a gem

20:59 <shevy> on github people can have all the same names

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21:00 <shevy> so now I wanna write a class called Percentage

21:00 <shevy> and there is a gem called percentage but it does not do what I want

21:00 <shevy> so I can't name it percentage

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21:04 <atmosx> shevy: name it percentage-shevy

21:04 <atmosx> or ShevyPercentage

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21:05 <arubincloud> FractionOfOneHundred

21:06 <ccham> percentRAGE

21:06 <shevy> atmosx problem is I dont want to pick any other name, I think everyone else should use other names but me :>

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21:06 <atmosx> hahaha

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21:07 <arubincloud> shevy: Issue a DMCA take-down request for the current gem.

21:07 <shevy> impossible, I don't believe in the DMCA dictatorship

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21:07 <centrx> <shevy> atmosx problem is I dont want to pick any other name, I think everyone else should use other names but me :>

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21:07 <arubincloud> Do not like others cutting in on your action?

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21:08 <shevy> centrx yeah I want that!

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21:09 <ccham> heartbleed rubygems and hijack the owner's login

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21:11 <shevy> haha

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21:14 <shevy> atmosx I am playing around with gruff right now

21:14 <benzrf> shevy you disgust me

21:15 <shevy> benzrf but you like it

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21:16 <shevy> benzrf now noone else may create a gem called quick

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21:16 <benzrf> :-D

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21:20 <jokke> hey

21:21 <combusean> oh hi benzrf :)

21:21 <combusean> working with salt and capistrano and custom deployers today

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21:21 <lagweezle> salt?

21:21 <jokke> there's a gem that's really good for building json apis with sinatra. Whachamacallit?

21:21 <benzrf> why salt?

21:21 <benzrf> arent you a ruby dev?

21:21 <benzrf> =p

21:21 <havenwood> jokke: grape

21:21 <jokke> havenwood: exactly!

21:21 <jokke> thanks

21:22 <lagweezle> What is 'salt'?

21:22 <havenwood> lagweezle: think chef or puppet

21:22 <lagweezle> ooooh

21:23 <lagweezle> A lot of these names are damned near impossible to search for without more info.

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21:23 <lagweezle> 'salt' and 'grape' are going to be painful web searches I'd think.

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21:23 <combusean> salt stack usually

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21:24 <combusean> and after a while google is smart enough to recognize, esp with additional terms

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21:25 <arubincloud> Grape is the first result for "grape gem".

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21:25 <combusean> benzrf, I'm a devops guy for a while

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21:26 <benzrf> kk

21:26 <combusean> they keep threatening to put me on more actual ruby code (what i was hired for) but they need me in ops more

21:26 <benzrf> ive heard ansible is good btw

21:26 <benzrf> it works over ssh, it doesnt need a client on the controlled comps

21:27 <combusean> yeah

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21:27 <combusean> me too

21:27 <combusean> esp in mixed environments

21:27 <combusean> we use salt here

21:27 <arubincloud> ansible is under the GPLv3, if that matters to you.

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21:27 <combusean> one of these days the deployer here is going to be opensourced

21:28 <combusean> because it's a fledgling project that really deploys across multiple servers.

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21:28 <arubincloud> The GPL, especially version 3, is verboten by many employers.

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21:28 <benzrf> >tfw no freedumbs

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21:29 <greenride> Is there an easy way to insert multiple key, value pairs into a Ruby hash?

21:30 <DouweM> what?

21:30 * lagweezle goes and hutns for those.

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21:31 <lagweezle> I apparently haven't learned that 'stack' is a good word to add.

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21:31 <greenride> DouweM: Was that addressed to me?

21:31 <DouweM> greenride: yeah. I'm not sure what you're asking

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21:31 <shevy> greenride I think you can not; you can do hash['key'] = 'value'

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21:32 <shevy> greenride best way is to write a method, then pass in any amount of values to that method to populate your hash in question

21:32 <DouweM> or hash.merge(a: "a", b: "b"), but otherwise I'm not sure what you're looking for

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21:32 <greenride> shevy: That is cumbersome if one has to add 5 or 6 key value pairs, right?

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21:32 <shevy> greenride yeah but you can always do .each_pair too on a collection

21:32 <greenride> DouweM: You answered my question if that works.

21:33 <DouweM> Hash#merge certainly exists :)

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21:34 <greenride> DouweM: Is there a version of Hash#merge that transforms the hash that calls it?

21:34 <DouweM> #merge!

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21:35 <DouweM> where the bang is part of the method name

21:35 <greenride> DouweM: That's what I wanted! Thanks.

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21:40 <Prometheian> I'm trying to tell if there's an object on a page. It's a "select" object and I know its name attribute ends with the variable, input, that I'm giving it. I'm forced to use capybara/cucumber but I can't get it to work properly, but I'm not sure if it's my css selector that is the issue. I'm trying "select[name*=#{input}]" the #{} is so ruby parses it as a variable and not text

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21:42 <wallerdev> might need quotes

21:42 <wallerdev> depending what input is

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21:42 <wallerdev> try it by hand instead of with interpolation?

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22:11 <shevy> hmm in english

22:11 <shevy> if you got 12 apples, and you grab 3 of them, and you calculate the percentages - how do you call 3, and 12, respectively in this context?

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22:12 <DouweM> numerator/denominator ?

22:12 <shevy> ah that's it

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22:12 <DouweM> as we're pretty much talking fractions here

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22:12 <shevy> did not know the upper part was called numerator, thanks DouweM

22:12 <wallerdev> quotient and divisor

22:12 <wallerdev> hah

22:13 <DouweM> shevy: what gem are you building?

22:13 <Senjai> shevy: Elementary school man :P

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22:14 <shevy> DouweM right now no gem, I am just tired of always doing stuff like: "We found 135 questions in our quiz, 24 are already answered. This is x %." where x is just 2400.0/135

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22:14 <RubyPanther> receiver/argument

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22:15 <shevy> the suggestions are getting progressively worse

22:16 <DouweM> haha

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22:17 <blackavr> foo/bar, of course.

22:17 <blackavr> (to continue the trend)

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22:18 <shevy> percentage 75,100

22:18 <shevy> Infinity

22:18 <shevy> hmm I think my calculation is slightly wrong

22:18 <benzrf> hue

22:19 <benzrf> >> Rational(2, 3) * 10

22:19 <eval-in> benzrf => (20/3) (https://eval.in/134643)

22:19 <benzrf> >> 2 / 3 * 10

22:19 <eval-in> benzrf => 0 (https://eval.in/134644)

22:19 <benzrf> >> 2.0 / 3 * 10

22:19 <eval-in> benzrf => 6.666666666666666 (https://eval.in/134645)

22:19 <benzrf> hm

22:19 <ccham> [0]/[1]

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22:24 <fflush> bonjour

22:24 <DouweM> bonne nuit

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22:30 <shevy> bonne toutes

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22:30 <crucify_me> http://pastie.org/9066279 hello why is zero on line 14 here? thanks

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22:32 <DouweM> crucify_me: because you're puts'ing i ?

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22:33 <crucify_me> DouweM: but there is a condition unless i.zero?

22:33 <DouweM> Proc#[] always makes me do a double take

22:33 <ccham> crucify_me: do you mean puts i unless i.zero?

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22:34 <DouweM> crucify_me: you're only puts'ing a newline when its non-zero, you're still always puts'ing the rest. ccham is probably right

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22:34 <crucify_me> I added puts i to the example to see if it would exclude it DouweM ccham

22:34 <crucify_me> ^line 14

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22:36 <crucify_me> oh DouweM so line 8 is just to add a newline?

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22:36 <DouweM> crucify_me: `puts "x"` prints "x\n" to stdout, `puts` just prints "\n"

22:36 <DouweM> so yeah

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22:36 <crucify_me> I was wondering why line 8 included a puts. thanks got it DouweM

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22:57 <combusean> wtf does resque take environment variables and command line options?

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23:02 <bricker> what?

23:03 <kinginky> anyone know of a decent ruby-base webmail app? found mailr but it's too old for me. im really surprised by the seeming lack of ruby-based webmail apps.

23:03 <DouweM> kinginky: I looked for that a while back as well, wasn't able to find anything recent

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23:03 <kinginky> odd... might be time to start a project :P

23:03 <kinginky> i found "Mailman" which looks pretty sweet

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23:05 <BraddPitt> what would be an instance where someone is using both rails and sinatra?

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23:06 <shevy> is that the gem that gets hooked into the "YourWife" gem

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23:08 <combusean> our sinatra deployer deploys rails apps :P

23:08 <combusean> but that's prolly not what you mean

23:08 <combusean> meant*

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23:10 <BraddPitt> I'm looking at a job listing and they say rails and sinatra

23:10 <BraddPitt> kind of odd

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23:11 <shevy> perhaps prototyping in sinatra

23:11 <shevy> then you move it all to a behemothic system

23:11 <DouweM> GitHub uses Rails for the main app, Sinatra for Gist (I think). It's not uncommon to use both where appropriate

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23:12 <BraddPitt> interesting

23:12 <wallerdev> maybe they're using sinatra to proxy requests to rails to deal with their existing non-restful architecture

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23:28 <adeponte> anyone interested in checking out some code (https://github.com/reachlocal/boxci/blob/master/lib/boxci/test_runner.rb) and providing feedback in terms of OO ways of cleaning that up with Ruby?

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23:29 <wallerdev> remove the heredocs

23:30 <adeponte> wallerdev: by creating an object around it?

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23:31 <wallerdev> or loading the text from files or something

23:31 <wallerdev> heredocs are ugly

23:31 <adeponte> yeah, so assuming I move that to say erb templates

23:32 <adeponte> what about ways of cleaning up the snippets << statements in the generate_script() method

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23:33 <wallerdev> make a block

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23:33 <wallerdev> def do_stuff; snippets << your stuff; yield; snippets << your other stuff; end

23:33 <wallerdev> do_stuff { snippets << %q{export BOXCI_TEST_RESULT=$BOXCI_TEST_RESULT} }

23:33 <wallerdev> or whatever

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23:34 <wallerdev> or if its the same thing everytime just make it a method haha

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23:36 <adeponte> hmm, ok

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23:37 <wallerdev> just delete everything you wrote twice

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