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<shevy>
hey ca_bud from where did you get your regex knowledge? perl?
<ca_bud>
shevy: what knowledge!! haha the answer would be jensn :) or playing with http://rubular.com/
<shevy>
hmm
<shevy>
(.{6}\S*)(.*) is quite complex
<shevy>
for a newcomer
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<shevy>
it took me MONTHS to understand that back when I read a perl book! :(
<ca_bud>
jensn: gave me the result, but now that he did, I do understand it because rubular explains it all
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<Zal>
String#match matches at the beginning of the string only? Is there a method to search the string for a pattern instead? Or do I need to use a pattern that starts with .* ?
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<Zal>
hm, never mind, matching seems to work anywhere in the string
<shevy>
ok
<ca_bud>
Zal: I actually removed the (.*) because (.{6}\S*) seemed to work well.
<bulavard>
Can someone tell me the difference between '|' and '||' (pipes)?
<ca_bud>
Zal: I wanted to insert a "|" into every space after every 6 characters.
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<Zal>
ca_bud, yep, I see. Thanks
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<ca_bud>
Zal: insert a "|" in the first space after 6 characters? example "bla bla bla" would be "bla bla | bla"
<ca_bud>
however, I can't seem to loop through the regex results with .each. any recommendation?
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<canton7>
You can use match.to_a.each or match.captures.each iirc
<ca_bud>
canton7: thanks! works great, but now just learned the rubular returns differing results. :( IRB only returns the first catch, while rubular find all the repeating ones. strange
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<Animawish>
I don't understand .inspect
<ca_bud>
Animawish: it's great for debugging.
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<Animawish>
are there any uses for it other than debugging?
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<burgestrand>
bulavard: || is a logical OR operator, | is a mathematical operator, most often bitwise OR (between numbers), but you can define it yourself as well if you want to
<ca_bud>
Animawish: I've only used it for debugging. but prob..
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<Zal>
hey canton7, I rewrote my class. Care to see if it throws any syntax errors in 1.8.7 for me?
<bulavard>
burgestrand: thanks! I also thought that one of them evaluated both sides of the operator, whereas the other one only evaluates the second one if the first one evaluates to false. Any insight into this?
<burgestrand>
bulavard: you’re probably thinking of ||= which is conditional assignment
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<canton7>
Zal, sure
<burgestrand>
bulavard: x ||= y — it will *only* assign y to x if x is false or nil; otherwise nothing will happen (not even an assignment to the same value as it already was)
<Zal>
canton7, here's my class: http://pastie.org/3064791 (I threw in the last two lines for testing, hope I did that right)
<canton7>
burgestrand, you might be thinking of the fact that "a || b" evaluates b if and only if a is false. Similarly, "a && b" evaluates b iff a is true
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<burgestrand>
canton7: no, I’m thinking of x ||= y means x || x = y, and not x = x || y
<canton7>
righty, cool
<burgestrand>
(for one special case this is not entirely true but I forgot about which that is ^^)
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<Zal>
canton7, eh, darn. thank you for testing
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<canton7>
Zal, I think it's a different behaviour of "puts". Replaing it with "p" gives "[\"foo\", \"bar\", \"baz\", \",bing\", \"fin\"]"
<canton7>
Zal, ignore me. I was using the wrong ruby version there
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<canton7>
Zal, aha! No my hunch was right. Removing the to_s gives ["foo", "bar", "baz", ",bing", "fin"]
<Zal>
in 1.8.7?
<canton7>
yeah
<Zal>
awesome, thank you
<canton7>
:)
<Zal>
pita writing for old versions ;-)
<savage->
I'm using more Enumerable#flat_map and Enumerable#each_cons these days.
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<ca_bud>
why would a="one two three four five six seven eight nine, ten, eleven, tweleve, thrirteen, fourteen, fifiteen, sixteen" insert=/(.{6}\S*)/.match(a) not find find the repeating pattern?
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<canton7>
ca_dub, I might be misunderstanding you, but string.match only finds the first match. You might want string.scan
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<ca_bud>
ruby-1.9.2-p136 :057 > a.scan(/(.{6}\S*)/) works great, thanks!
<canton7>
also you can strip those brackets to get rid of the subarrays -- a.scan(/.{6}\S*/)
<canton7>
(the two array elements you were getting from string.match were the match for the entire regex, and the match for your bracketed bit of the regex. In your case, they were the same :P )
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<ca_bud>
canton7: you are great, I was just about to ask that!
<ca_bud>
how do I strip them? the code you provided looks the same?
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<canton7>
a.scan(/(.{6}\S*)/) vs a.scan(/.{6}\S*/) ?
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<ca_bud>
got it
<canton7>
:)
<brownies>
hi, noob question
<brownies>
can i define/override the way a method behaves for just one particular instance of an class?
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<canton7>
:)
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<ca_bud>
strange, I just tried to rvm install ruby 1.9.3 and got this message.. /Users/username/.rvm/rubies/ruby-1.9.2-p290/bin/ruby: No such file or directory -- 1.9.3 (LoadError), any idea on how to fix?
<ca_bud>
it looks like its pointing to the wrong directory, but I'm not sure how to fix.
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<canton7>
rvm doesn't work on windows iirc
<ca_bud>
it's mac OSX
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<ca_bud>
10.5.8
<ca_bud>
I'm running 1.9.2 right now
<canton7>
ah, fair play
<ca_bud>
could it be something in my bash file
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<ca_bud>
maybe try a complete reinstall?
<ca_bud>
tried to reinstall, now got a different error.
<ca_bud>
got this now "/Users/username/.rvm/scripts/manage: line 13: /base: No such file or director"
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<draginx>
How much does a typical webapp in ruby take?
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<canton7>
I think you accidentally a word
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<shevy>
draginx depends on how many custom libraries you use
<shevy>
and how much it should be able to do
<draginx>
whoops did forget a word :S I meant in terms of memory
<draginx>
I only have 207mb of free memory.. was wondering if ruby would eat that up
<shevy>
ah
<shevy>
hmm that's not a lot of memory
<shevy>
try lua perhaps :D
<draginx>
lol
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<levity_island>
is it possible, from within a method, to list the name of the file from which the method was called, if the caller is in a different file?
<ryanf>
yes
<ryanf>
use "caller"
<ryanf>
you can try it in irb
<levity_island>
ryanf: sweet, thanks
<ryanf>
np
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<Animawish>
is it just me or is puts <<BLAH buggy
<Animawish>
it doesn't work with indenting
<Animawish>
I get this error if it's indented: can't find string "PARAGRAPH" anywhere before EOF
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<ryanf>
did you look at any docs about it
<ryanf>
that's how it's supposed to work
<ryanf>
use <<-BLAH
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<thelifelessone>
I have some questions.
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<thelifelessone>
First, how can I, and is it a good idea, to run Ruby from Apache in a way similiar to how PHP runs?
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<ryanf>
you can, using Phusion Passenger
<ryanf>
I think it's less common than running a separate ruby app server and putting something like nginx in front of it
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<gabrtv>
is there an easy way to have non-standard variable names evaluated in ERB? for example: <%= my/var_name %>
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<CottageOnRails>
Hi guys
<CottageOnRails>
Hi guys. Quick question. After installing rvm every time I start my terminal I get the following message: -bash: is_a_function: command not found
<CottageOnRails>
Any ideas why?
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<WiiW>
how to protect ruby source code ?
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<any-key>
obfuscation
<any-key>
but overall, I'd say don't do that
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<WiiW>
any-key: how to obfuscation ruby code ? def all my methods to a1() a2() a3() ?
<any-key>
ruby isn't meant for this
<any-key>
why are you trying to protect the code?
<WiiW>
any-key: for business application , give end user
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<brownies>
what?
<any-key>
it's not a good idea
<brownies>
i already name all my methods a1 a2 a3
<any-key>
you can't do much to "protect" the source code of a scripting language...
<any-key>
they're meant for automation of tasks and server-side work mostly
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<any-key>
WiiW: no, it doesn't
<any-key>
it doesn't work like that
<any-key>
you can obfuscate but that's it
<any-key>
notice the word "silly" in the article you linked to?
<any-key>
it's silly
<cgkades>
if you don't want your code to be seen by other people.. don't give it to them
<cgkades>
you could probably write some crazy encryption decryption program in c that loads an encrypted ruby file and decrypts it on the fly, then runs it
<cgkades>
but that would be dumb
<any-key>
you
<any-key>
oops
<any-key>
if you want to hand them a binary and say "run this", ruby is not the language for it
<WiiW>
encode a.rb , than decode a.rb to /tmp/a.rb , then run it .
<any-key>
is your client evil?
<any-key>
what are they going to do with the source?
<WiiW>
I use: exec('ruby /tmp/a.rb')
<any-key>
why are you doing this
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<WiiW>
for obfuscate my code
<any-key>
you ignored my questions
<any-key>
why does your client having the source pose a threat?
<any-key>
because if the client wants it that bad they'll be able to get what they need
<any-key>
sure, it'll be a bit trickier to read, but not very hard compared to reverse engineering most things...
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<WiiW>
I'll def all my methods to a1 a2 a3 , and write a hash tab to restore method names
<any-key>
why does your client having the source code pose a threat?
<any-key>
answer that question please
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<brownies>
this is hilarious
<any-key>
he can't answer the question, so I'll let him go fuck up his source
<WiiW>
Jshrink is a Java obfuscator that extracts the minimal set of class files for an application, removes unused code and data, obfuscates symbolic names, finalizes code for optimized execution, and stores the results in a Java jar file.
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<any-key>
WiiW: unless you can tell me *why* the client having the source code is a threat, you have no business going through all this trouble
<cgkades>
cause he wants to haxor a b0x
<WiiW>
Zelix KlassMaster is the heavy duty Java bytecode obfuscator ... Java Bytecode Obfuscator Features A Java bytecode obfuscator changes Java bytecode to make the source code generated by reverse engineering much less useful to hackers and competitors.
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<any-key>
WiiW: answer my goddamned question
<any-key>
stop pasting random shit
<cgkades>
lol
<any-key>
this is ridiculous
<cgkades>
but funny
<WiiW>
JODE - Java Optimize and Decompile Environment. ... JODE is a java package containing a decompiler and an optimizer for java. This package is freely available under the GNU GPL
<cgkades>
lol
<any-key>
surely this is a joke
<any-key>
WiiW: nobody cares
<cgkades>
trollin Mc Trollerson
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<maek>
so im messing with sinatra trying to use datamapper (im ruby noob) and I get this error https://gist.github.com/1516490 when trying require 'datamapper' I have the datamapper gem installed. any ideas? thanks
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<aces1up>
i have a uri created by addressable.. how do i get the full url including any variables or query options included after site and path?
<banisterfiend>
aces1up: is that a rails question?
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<aces1up>
na i figured it out.. nevermind.. but I do have a ruby questions.
<aces1up>
what is the different between a unit test and a specification?
<aces1up>
i would like to start writing them, but they seem very complicated.. and good docs to get me started?
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<banisterfiend>
aces1up: they're kind of the same thing though the emphasis is differnet i guess
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<envygeeks>
unit testing tests pieces of pieces where specifications normally test for the piece itself
<aces1up>
envygeeks well a specification then is what i might need, for instance i have a whole system of objects i need to test various circumstances, and then test the output... but then i know i have to mock all these objects somehow, seems very complicated to reproduce / test the whole system.
<envygeeks>
that would be more like unit-testing
<envygeeks>
think of specifications like cucumber and unit-testing like minitest
<envygeeks>
though you can do both with both normally you don't
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<aces1up>
envygeeks do you do alot of unit testing?
<aces1up>
i've always flown by the seat of my pants.
<banisterfiend>
testing is hard IMO
<envygeeks>
aces1up: yes, I do heavy heavy heavy unit-testing down to really specific specifics, I also do specifications for BDD style programming just so I can lay out what I want ahead of time
<banisterfiend>
getting the right level of abstraction for testing is hard
<aces1up>
banisterfiend yes from what i have been reading looking into seems complicated.
<envygeeks>
but truth be told though, I don't do my unit-tests until the first draft is done
<banisterfiend>
so that u dont have to refactor your tests when you refactor your code
<aces1up>
envygeeks hrmm i was more thinking like i would write a test so that when i do refactor i will know what breaks.
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<aces1up>
banisterfiend sorry meant that for you.
<aces1up>
what is BDD?
<envygeeks>
aces1up: yeah you can do that with specifications IMO cucumber can handle that
<banisterfiend>
aces1up: my point was that you can shuffle about internals without having to also shuffle about tests. Of course if you make a BUG while refactoring your tests should reflect this, but i was referring to a successful refactor that doesnt generate bugs
<aces1up>
envygeeks cool thanks.
<banisterfiend>
aces1up: you're just talking about regression tests
<envygeeks>
yeah regression tests are more specifications IMO, unit testing is more for deep refactors where you need to drill down a specific case
<envygeeks>
exp: I would do a unit-test to check a Hash output down to the keys and values but for a specification I would just test that it successfully put out a hash
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<aces1up>
k i will lean towards specs then, and you said cucumber can handle that?
<envygeeks>
yessum, I prefer cucumber for my specs/features but others might disagree
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<cantonic>
hey guys. does anyone know watir? i need to use a proxy with watir-webdriver but the proxy needs authentication
<cantonic>
and i don't know wheather watir-webdriver can handle that
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<buharin>
hello :)
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<moshef>
hi guys. whats the best way to remove a key from hash and create a new hash with that key?
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<Asher>
Hash.new[ key ] = old_hash.delete( key )
<Asher>
if that's what you want
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<moshef>
let me try Asher
<moshef>
Asher: whats the name of the name hash?
<moshef>
or should i do something like hash_name = (Hash.new[ key ] = old_hash.delete( key ))
<Mon_Ouie>
No
<Asher>
create your hash first then assign the key to the result of what you delete
<moshef>
but im only getting back the result of the deleted key, not as key > hash structure
<moshef>
yeah Mon_Ouie , thats what i looked for
<moshef>
thanks
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<TeYo9N>
hi
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<TeYo9N>
I am trying to require redcarpet in irb, but it fails. if I execute 'ruby -e "redcarpet"' in the shell, it works. I am using ruby 1.9.3 installed via rvm and the irb is the one which belongs to the ruby executable. I am fairly new to ruby so my debugging knowledge is exhausted.
<apeiros_>
TeYo9N: define 'fails'
<TeYo9N>
LoadError: cannot load such file -- redcarpet
<apeiros_>
hm
<apeiros_>
how did you ensure that your ruby and your irb correlate?
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<apeiros_>
oh, btw, ruby -e "redcarpet" - did you mean: ruby -e 'require "redcarpet"'?
<TeYo9N>
which ruby and which irb point to the same bin directory
<TeYo9N>
yes, sorry.
<apeiros_>
that's odd. should work on both then.
<TeYo9N>
even stranger:
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<TeYo9N>
if I execute it with the ruby binary. - So, as far as I understand after requiring redcarpet the constant should be declared?
<TeYo9N>
and to make the things even stranger, the redcarpet - command line tool works
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<TeYo9N>
oh, my fault: 'redcarpet' defines 'Redcarpet' and it works from within the ruby-script.
<TeYo9N>
so it only fails in irb.
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<Connas>
does anyone know how to clear a 2nd OpenGL viewport with animation without it deleting the contents of the first OpenGL viewport ?
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<franz1>
Hello, I have a quick REXML question
<franz1>
Can I do something like doc.root.elements.each {|elem| doc.root.elements.delete(elem) if some_condition(elem)}? Will it process all original child elements? Or can't I delete children while iterating?
<franz1>
It works in my test, but I don't know if that's by design or accidental.
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<nonotza>
I want to run a shell script through ruby. the script asks for feedback but I don't know how to respond with the feedback required
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<cartomen>
!list
<cartomen>
list!
<shevy>
lol
<shevy>
!list!
<shevy>
nonotza usually it's easier to just write it in ruby
<shevy>
I think you may be able to input data to that script... if you use popen. but I am not sure, I stopped using shell scripts some years ago
<nonotza>
I see
<nonotza>
thanks
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<zi>
How to require a file so that it would be required into a module. Like it's in a module statement?
<cartomen>
ciao scusate come fziona per snu
<cartomen>
scusate come funziona per scaricare
<apeiros>
zi: can't do that with require. load can do it, though. but the module is anonymous
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<apeiros>
samuelkadolph: I think you can omit the 1
<apeiros>
(it's the default)
<apeiros>
if you need a randomly named module (some libs don't like to be put inside anonymous modules): Object.const_set("MyPrefix%08x"%rand(0xffffffff), Module.new.class_eval…)
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<josh9>
guys, why are u here and not on #ruby
<josh9>
i mean #ruby-lang
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<waxjar>
the sex here is free
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<shevy>
lol
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