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<robert_>
hmm
<robert_>
so anyone here have any experience with ruby-odbc (especially iODBC or UnixODBC?)
<robert_>
er
<robert_>
so anyone here have any experience with ruby-odbc (especially iODBC or UnixODBC)?
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<yfeldblum>
ahammond, you should write that function (or find a third-party library that has such functions already)
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<ahammond>
yfeldblum: I was assuming some 3rd party already had written it. However I'm a ruby-noobie, so I was hoping for a pointer to it.
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<Kamakura>
sup people
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<Kamakura>
is there anyone replying here??
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<Ruby_Newbie>
Greetings! What is the IRB command to list all attributes of an instance?
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<Kamakura>
no humans?
<Ruby_Newbie>
I am a human
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<Kamakura>
awesome
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<Kamakura>
why is no one chatting
<Kamakura>
its dead
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<robert_>
anyone have a bit to help me figure out why my ruby isn't working as expected?
<burgestrand>
robert_: this is a very inactive hour of this channel, but ask your actual questions and you might get an answer anyway
<robert_>
I've noticed that, burgestrand :p
<robert_>
okay.
<burgestrand>
;)
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<robert_>
for some reason, http://pastie.org/3080372 gives me, 'parts:["HKEY_ROOT", "Configuration", "RACK", "Server Port"] tmp_path:[] my_path:[]'
<burgestrand>
that is a lot of code to look through :p
<burgestrand>
… and a very odd indentation scheme, first time seeing block arguments on their own line
<robert_>
ah. I guess I'm just odd. :p
<burgestrand>
it’s way too much code for me to sift through at this time, can’t you try to shrink the code to produce a failing example?
<burgestrand>
why are you defining the methods in the initialize-method?
<robert_>
I haven't converted it to a lambda yet
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<robert_>
because I don't care about using that anywhere else
<burgestrand>
As it is now you might as well just put it outside, there’s no difference apart from that it won’t be defined until initialize is called
<robert_>
okay
<burgestrand>
It’ll be available on all instances of Registry if you call #initialize even once
<RubyPanther>
With books and modafanil you can study 24 hours a day.
<burgestrand>
robert_: now we’re talking, and yes, old ruby version, each_with_object is 1.9 :)
<burgestrand>
I’ll see if I can run it
<robert_>
alright
<robert_>
yeah you don't need the file I/O part
<robert_>
I do for obvious reasons :p
<burgestrand>
robert_: so what’s it supposed to do, Registry#[]?
<robert_>
yeah
<robert_>
depending on whether the end is a key or value, it returns "the right thing"
<burgestrand>
robert_: so what should the example print instead of Path does not exist?
<robert_>
Server Port is supposed to be a value
<robert_>
it should print like, 9000 or whatever the Server Port is set to
<burgestrand>
robert_: in the code you gave there is no Server Port though, where should the value come from?
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<robert_>
you can stick a "Server Port" => 9000 in HKEY_ROOT\Configuration\RACK
<banisterfiend>
burgestrand: hello burg
<burgestrand>
banisterfiend: mornin :)
<banisterfiend>
burgestrand: what's the dilly
<banisterfiend>
burgestrand: did your parents get you that ipad or car you wanted for xmas
<banisterfiend>
:P
<burgestrand>
banisterfiend: trying to understand what robert_ wants :p
<burgestrand>
banisterfiend: heh you saw that song too, eh?
<robert_>
hiii banisterfiend :D
<banisterfiend>
robert_: sup pig
<burgestrand>
robert_: so, if the path except for the last segment is a hash, look up a key in that hash, is that what the code’s supposed to do?
<burgestrand>
robert_: or should it be recursive, and basically traverse the path?
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<robert_>
it should try and traverse the path
<burgestrand>
I think I get it now
<robert_>
because I could give it a typo somewhere along the way or typo in the registry
<robert_>
it should give me an exception if the path is not found
<robert_>
otherwise give me the registry key and/or value
<robert_>
similar to how the Windows registry is supposed to work, only I don't need the bullshit
<robert_>
it's just a simple hierarchy
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<burgestrand>
so, split the path on \\, and then try to traverse it as good as possible
<robert_>
yeah
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<robert_>
but inside .each_with_object(), tmp_path, my_path and thePath are empty- what gives?
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<burgestrand>
robert_: why do you have a stray "part" at the bottom of the block? line 45
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<robert_>
because part is one of the arguments to .object_with_each() lol
<burgestrand>
robert_: each_with_object does not use return value of the block for anything, inject/reduce does however
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<robert_>
oh. okay.
<robert_>
so I don't need it there
<robert_>
but then why are tmp_path and my_path coming up nil?
<burgestrand>
very confusing when you call it thePath and then call it my_path somewhere else :p
<burgestrand>
hm, you also build the path from the bottom, where you should probably build it by trying to match the longest path possible and then reducing
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<burgestrand>
hm, naw, nvm, bad idea, should sleep :p
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* shevy
puts the pillow on burgestrand.
<burgestrand>
robert_: I played a bit with it just for fun, figured you might as well have it before I go to sleep: http://codepad.org/fMO53CSt
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<robert_>
baniseterfiend`: hai. not much. being tired and full. and working on this code still, lol
<robert_>
:D
<baniseterfiend`>
robert_: go to sleep little man
<robert_>
hah, I'll do that after I finish this :p
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<jackhammer2022>
modafanil hmm
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<Wroathe>
Hey guys. I'm having some problems with Nokogiri. In a loop of table cells I have td being passed in and td.css('p')[0].content keeps telling me method content doesn't exist for nilClass (or something like that)
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<Wroathe>
I've verified that td.css('p')[0] is a XML::Element
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<Wroathe>
And if I do td.css('p')[0].to_s I can see the contents of what I want
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<Wroathe>
Anyone here use Nokogiri before?
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<abstrusenick>
:page => :new, with the 1.9 new hash syntax, it will look like page: :new, in't that ugly?
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<rippa>
abstrusenick: don't use it for symbols then
<abstrusenick>
its rather inconsistent when you mix them up
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<Gm4n>
I'm using datamapper, and having issues with a property :sample, Enum[:foo,:bar]. I'm getting "no such file to load -- dm-types/enum (LoadError)"
<Gm4n>
where do I start trying to diagnose this?
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<jiji>
Hi
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<operant108>
Does anyone know an alternative for the following to make a require work in both 1.9 and 1.8.7 ? gist.github.com/1526544 ?
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<heftig>
operant108: i believe those two statements aren't even the same thing
<heftig>
operant108: require_relative requires relative to the source file, while the other one depends on "." (the current working directory) to be in $:, which might not even be the location of the source file
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<operant108>
Well, i guess I should ask.. In 1.8.7, since "." was in the load paths, when i ran "bundle exec rspec spec/path/to_spec.rb" .. my spec would only have to have "require 'lib/thelib'" ... in 1.9.2, that no longer works.. looking for the best practices replacement... i found require_relative... what would the preferred method of including a tested library in a spec in 1.9.2
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<Tasser>
operant108, $LOAD_PATH.unshift File.expand_path("../lib", __FILE__) in your spec setup file
<Tasser>
operant108, and use require_relative to require that one
<operant108>
exactly what I was looking for! .. thank you
<operant108>
except.. require_relative won't work in 1.8.7 ,, so i can't get away from if RUBY_VERSION ?
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<Tasser>
operant108, defined?(require_relative)
<operant108>
I could also just "require './spec/spec_helper.rb'"
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<Tasser>
that won't work if you call ruby from somewhere else than the toplevel dir of your project
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<Hanmac1>
1.8 could die painfuly
<operant108>
surely there is some sort of best practice for releasing gems whose tests will run in both versions
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<operant108>
so .. after checking out a few gems.. paperclip, devise, .. there is apparently no standard means.. most use $: or $LOAD_PATH, some use << some use unshift.. just about all patch in library to the load paths using expand path or File.join .. all do this in spec_helper and just do "require 'spec_helper'" from the spec
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<init[1]>
hi, well this may be a noobie question. What ruby IDE do you prefer and why ?
<Hanmac>
i use gedit for small and eclipse for big stuff
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<operant108>
init[1]: rubymine if I want a full fledged IDE.. for many ruby programmers, textmate, vim and emacs are standards
<Gm4n>
vim ftw =)
<operant108>
ex: thoughbot just released a screencast on vim on rails, peepcode offers several screencasts on vim (as well as a few for textmate).. having used rubymine heavily for some time.. It is indeed quite delicious in terms of language features, but is quite weak in text editing power
<operant108>
ex.. rubymine allows you to cmd+click any method and jump to its definition .. it also has refactoring tools and an excellent git integration .. but it stinks at text editing
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<googya>
no body?
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<andreime>
what does something like params.merge!(...) do?
<andreime>
nevermind, documentation is king once you get to it :)
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<geaif>
hi
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<ereslibre>
hi guys. help with this ? http://paste.kde.org/178670/, on the FIXME part, i need to call to the "super" which is the old definition of the method. not too many faith. take into account that the first definition of module A cannot be modified, I need to rewrite "test" method, adding some stuff and then calling to the old implementation. is this even possible ?
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<impi>
where's #rails?
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<Tasser>
impi, #rubyonrails
<impi>
thank you kindly Sir
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<`brendan>
morning folks
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<`brendan>
Hapz, what does mkmf.log show?
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<Hapz>
nothing, it doesnt exist
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<shevy>
LONG LIVE RUBY
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<parafrican>
I would like to train me to test but I'm not working on any project. Do you have ideas for simple application to run unit tests, integration tests and so on ?
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<parafrican>
rothsa: I'm just looking for a demo app that will help me to understand the process
<parafrican>
rothsa: For example, I'm thinking about a very simple todo list
<parafrican>
But it's not very exciting
<deryl>
parafrican: buy The RSpec Book.
<deryl>
it covers some of the unit testing, but rspec seems to be the standard now for testing (along with cucumber if you need higher level testing facilities)
<rothsa>
or what deryl said. the link I gave you is pretty much the laziest way I've found to learn testing, it's not an app but it will walk you through
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<esde>
Quick question, could someone be so kind as to help me with installing a module? I'm trying to start tinkering with Mysql and Ruby
<esde>
I've downloaded the module, unzipped it, and executed "ruby extconf.rb" and it did some things, not sure what it did though as I don't know Ruby that well yet :/
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<Asher>
are you familiar with gem install?
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<shevy>
esde if ruby works you can try "gem install <name>" however, your problem description isn't that helpful, because people won't know what went wrong, so they couldn't help you much.
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<esde>
So "Mysql" is a module, which in turn is a gem, and to install it i
<esde>
use 'gem install xxx.tar.gz' or gem install /mysql-directory/'?
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<Asher>
no
<Asher>
gems are ways of distributing ruby packages
<Asher>
they provide modules and classes
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<esde>
is the link I posted referring to a gem? or is there a gem 'version' of it? (I apologize for my obvious ignorance, but I assert that I truly want to gain a working knowledge of this language)
<Asher>
ruby has a built in command line binary called gem that will install such things for you
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<netytan>
Hi all. How would I execute a command and have that command's output go to the terminal (I'm trying to preserve the commands colored output)
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<llaskin>
does anyonje know the maintainers of gem "ruby-debug-ide"?
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<deryl>
llaskin: gem search ruby-debug-ide -dr
<deryl>
will give you the info you need to include homepage, author name, and gem home
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<robert_>
shevy: sup
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<shevy>
hey
<shevy>
still coding in ruby?
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<robert_>
yup
<robert_>
still trying to fix this lol
<shevy>
good good!
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<sie>
Do I have to # encoding: utf-8 in all the files or can I somehow specify it globallyt?
<robert_>
yeah. still trying to work out what all's going on, lol
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<shevy>
sie I think you can only do this file specific
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<robert_>
what about my issue? :p
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<shevy>
what issue
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<arvindravi>
hi all,quick question from a beginner,my erb file has "<%= @doc.inspect=>" but instead of what it has to print,all it prints is a "#",am I doing it wrong?
<robert_>
shevy: http://codepad.org/fMO53CSt -- burgestrand worked on that for me; however it's still coming up nil when I try quering "HKEY_ROOT\Configuration\RACK\Server Port" :/
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<shevy>
ok what I dont get in your code
<shevy>
config = Registry.new("config")
<shevy>
def initialize(filename)
<shevy>
but filename is never used
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<cloudgeek>
any students registration or school registration app in rails that can integrate with active admin
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<cloudgeek>
any suggestion for new bie ruby student project in student registration web service or school registration service
<cloudgeek>
help assignment date is coming near plz any link
<Asher>
you're asking for us to provide a link to a finished version of your school assignment?
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<any-key>
sounds reasonable
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<robert_>
yeah because it's supposed to read from a file; I removed it at the behest of burgestrand
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<llaskin>
deryl: i've tried emailing, with no luck
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<shevy>
robert_ hmm always try to make the code as logical and as simple as possible at any time
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<robert_>
shevy: I was just responding to a complaint by burgestrand that including the filesysetm code was too much to read. that's all.
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<shevy>
well it's hard to try to find out what's going on when the first thing one looks at is confusing :)
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<shevy>
what I usually do is make many small methods that perform actions
<shevy>
I try to make the code so dumb that I don't have to think about anything anymore
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<robert_>
shevy: how is that large?
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<robert_>
RubyPanther: I heard about that.
<RubyPanther>
People everywhere should either be in a huff over the prices, or else run their class.
<RubyPanther>
or else run their own class.
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<kakashi_>
is there a tutorial somewhere for installing gems on userspace?
<kakashi_>
-ruby version 1.8.5
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<RubyPanther>
kakashi_: the problem is that a lot of gems expect a newer version of rubygems than can run on a ruby that old. Even 1.8.6 is getting really hard to run.
<kakashi_>
uh!
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<kakashi_>
RubyPanther, so the best way is to install latest ruby on userspace and then install ruby gems?
<RubyPanther>
1.8.7 still has some life, and gems installed with a current-ish rubygems if it is run as a regular user it goes into userspace
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<davidcelis>
1.8 needs to die
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<robert_>
heh
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<cloudgeek>
error in the ruby while programing from /usr/local/lib/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:36:in `require'
<cloudgeek>
from /home/geek/MAINA_Society/config/boot.rb:6
<cloudgeek>
from script/rails:5:in `require'
<cloudgeek>
from script/rails:5
<cloudgeek>
<cloudgeek>
help any body know what error is there
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<Okasu_>
>require
<Okasu_>
have you got a required gem?
<Okasu_>
cloudgeek: ^
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<cloudgeek>
Okasu:tell the name
<cloudgeek>
Okasu:what is name of that gem
<Okasu_>
no, you tell me
<cloudgeek>
Okasu: okay try to get it
<Okasu_>
how can i know what gem you missing?
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<Okasu_>
just look in boot.rb
<cloudgeek>
Okasuu_:got that i need active admin
<esde>
Is it best practice to install rvm through the project's website? or install through aptitude? or does it matter?
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<cloudgeek>
Okasu_:thanks :)
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<Okasu_>
cloudgeek: yw :)
<cloudgeek>
Okasu_: i am newbie in ruby , working for school assignment fro student registration , any link for that so , i can store the all infromation store in dtabse and later retrier it
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<mlue>
could anyone tell me what a module referred to with a preceding double colon means.
<mlue>
oh, is that relative to the current module or something
<rippa>
top level
<mlue>
ohh
<mlue>
that makes a ton of sense actually, thanks
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<mlue>
thanks rippa
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<Trevoke>
Hey all, I'm working on a linked list (each is implemented with preorder tree traversal) and noticing different output when using each and 'p' versus 'puts'. What exactly is the difference between these two methods?
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<Trevoke>
More specifically, list.each { |x| puts x } outputs the first node, and list.each { |x| p x } outputs one line for each node.
<Trevoke>
oh snap! I think I found it. You all are wonderful rubber duckies. p returns the value and puts returns nil.
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<Trevoke>
jMCg: seems like a problem with, for lack of a better word, your toolchain.
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<Trevoke>
Bundler/rake
<jMCg>
Trevoke: there's no mention of that in the error, so what gives you this impression?
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<jMCg>
I don't have bundler installed.
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<Trevoke>
Prior knowledge of a need for a new rdoc because the old one is deprecated/bad so it might actually fail to build documentation now (and isn't required / called the same way), as well as foggy memory of seeing this 'invalid blah blah gemspec blah blah' problem before
<Trevoke>
jMCg: what version of rake do you have?
<jMCg>
ii rake 0.8.7-2ubuntu1 a ruby build program
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<Trevoke>
jMCg: oh god, oh god, it burns. I recommend you start using RVM.
<Trevoke>
Now, the reason why I say this: Ubuntu's packages are pretty outdated when it comes to the Ruby world.
<shevy>
debian sucks
<jMCg>
Is there any package that is not fucked up on Debuntu?
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<Trevoke>
And... I am not willing to spend the time to try and figure out what exactly is going on within your system. I recommend you install RVM, use it to install one or more Rubies, and try again. When that's done, we'll be more able to help you.
<jMCg>
I mean.. they have the bestest packaging system in the world - and the SUCKIEST packages.
<Trevoke>
jMCg: I think ubuntu-desktop is not screwed up, and that's up for debate.
<jMCg>
I build the entire webstack already.. What else should I build?
<shevy>
jMCg when you use their package system, you are locked in to this scheme
<Trevoke>
jMCg: to be fair, slow-moving packages like Apache work pretty well on Ubuntu.
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<Trevoke>
jMCg: Aaaand that's why I use Gentoo -- but this is the Ruby chatroom, so it's the wrong place to start a Distro Discussion.
<jMCg>
o_<
<Trevoke>
jMCg: so, back to your problem - I think it'll be easier to help you if you install RVM.
<jMCg>
No, it's not.. but the first reply on all Stackoverflow questions so far was: This is how you use RVM.
<shevy>
well RVM is better than to stay in a scheme that does not work :)
<jMCg>
+1
<Trevoke>
Did you mean to write 'This is why' ?
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<shevy>
Trevoke I think he replied to the sentence before that
<jMCg>
Trevoke: nope;)
<jMCg>
I don't know why, but.. JRuby just came to my mind as I've read that it's supposed to a performance beast.
<jMCg>
brb, I'm been throw out of starbucks, they're closing.
<shevy>
haha
<Trevoke>
jMCg: jRuby was a performance beast before 1.9.0 came out. Now it's a little slower than these. Eyeballing, I think the performance is : 1.9.3 > 1.9.2 > jruby > rbx > ree > 1.8.7
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<jMCg>
re next door at Vapiano with wine instead of tea.
<jMCg>
Trevoke: 1.8.7 being the slowest?
<Trevoke>
jMCg: That ought to be accurate. You'll find plenty of benchmarks online if you're curious.
<jMCg>
Now, the problem, from what I gather, with 1.9.x is that not everything works with it (Which is an euphemism for nothing works with it?)
<shevy>
1.9.x changed a few things
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<Trevoke>
jMCg: That's not true anymore. I'd say that roughly 90% of the landscape works with the 1.9.x goggles
<shevy>
it added the -> operator so ruby code that uses it on 1.9.x won't work on 1.8.x
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<jMCg>
shevy: I get not being backwards compatible with *new* features.. but you know.. old features.. that everyone used to use...
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<jMCg>
Anyway, I'll look into uninstalling Ruby -- if possible and installing RVM.
<jMCg>
*sigh*
<shevy>
jMCg most things should work just fine
<jMCg>
I wish things were easy.
<shevy>
there are a few different warnings
<jMCg>
In addition to just working fine :)
<shevy>
case when ...
<shevy>
I think they disallowed "then" in those
<Trevoke>
jMCg: don't worry about uninstalling Ruby. Just install RVM and stop using what it considers 'system Ruby'
<shevy>
then it reports about multiple when clauses found... and it reports about circular require detected...
<jMCg>
Trevoke: does that include rake?
<Trevoke>
jMCg: on the other hand, definitely remove any Ubuntu packages like rake that you installed
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<jMCg>
And rubygems.
<Trevoke>
jMCg: yes, and rubygems.
<shevy>
jMCg remember you either stay in the ubuntu scheme or you drop it entirely :)
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<Trevoke>
shevy: case x \n when 5 then puts "haha" \n when 7 then puts "hoho" \n else puts "awww" \n end
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<shevy>
Trevoke yeah not sure what changed, but I am sure something did between the two ruby versions
<shevy>
perhaps it was the :
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<Trevoke>
shevy: yeah, that's it
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<yekta>
Any idea why I'm getting NoMethodError Exception: undefined method `node_name' for nil:NilClass with cucumber webrat click_button? I do a show me the page and the button is there. I even give it the selector its within and still the same thing. The button is a normal f.submit "Create"
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<yekta>
oops, thought this was rails- sorry
<Jay_Levitt>
Am I alone in frequently wishing for def Object.in?(container) container.include?(self) end
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<davidcelis>
what?
<pigoz>
Jay_Levitt: you are not alone
<davidcelis>
can you elaborate on the point of that?
<pigoz>
infact it's in activesupport's extensions in rails 3.1
<Jay_Levitt>
pigoz: no way
<pigoz>
yes way
<Jay_Levitt>
davidcelis: production_like_environments = ['production, staging, demo']; if Rails.env.in?(production_like_environments) then something
<Jay_Levitt>
it's semantically closer to what I mean than if production_like_environments.include?(Rails.env)
<davidcelis>
ahh
<Jay_Levitt>
That feels like "if 2 == var"
<davidcelis>
so an alias
<bamboozle>
gosh darnit davidcelis people saying your name highlights me
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<davidcelis>
what
* Jay_Levitt
thinks even my non-rails scripts are now going to rely on ActiveSupport
<davidcelis>
why would that highlight you
<davidcelis>
Jay_Levitt: me gusta
<shevy>
just use an alias!
<shevy>
oh
<Jay_Levitt>
nope, it's inside out
<shevy>
you mean you wanted it also reversed
<Jay_Levitt>
yep
<Jay_Levitt>
I think it comes from jumping back and forth between Ruby and SQL, where the syntax *is* IN [1,2,3]
<shevy>
I think in LPC code, they make it a habit to query the environment of an object