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<fgro> Time wday method return Sunday as first day of week with index 0. Is there a way to change this to Monday?
<heftig> fgro: that's fixed.
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<adishanbhag> So just started learning ruby and would like some guidance on how to best handle this in a erb.....
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<adishanbhag> i have a array with element a1, a2, a3,.....
<adishanbhag> need to make a single string out of it .... value = hash:abc/a1 hash:abc/a2 .. so on
<adishanbhag> any pointers
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<geekbri> Is it possible to have an unlimited number of arguments with optparse? I want to do something like --tag key1:value1 key2:value2 key3:value3 and have them be stored in an array. I tried opts.on("-t","--tag keys",Array,"Filter by TagName:TagValue") do |tag| but it doesn't seem to be anywhere near correct :)
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<Jarred> Anyone here have experience with Zeroconf?
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<Dysaniak> What's a good way to save a hash to file, then load that file into a hash again?
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<Dysaniak> File.open('tribes.txt', 'w') {|f| f.write(tribes) } does what I expect it to,
<Dysaniak> But tribes = IO.read('tribes.txt') comes back as a string.
<Dysaniak> With all the " inside the hash getting escaped.
<Dysaniak> "{o=>{:name=>\"Alpha\", :status=>20}, 1=>{:name=>\"Beta\", :status=>-3500}}"
<Dysaniak> Instead of {o=>{:name=>"Alpha", :status=>20}, 1=>{:name=>"Beta", :status=>-3500}}
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<robyurkowski> Dysaniak: I like saving to yaml
<robyurkowski> i.e. save is File.open('tribes.yml', 'w' {|f| f.puts(tribes.to_yaml) }
<robyurkowski> and reload is tribes = YAML.load(File.open('tribes.yml'))
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<Dysaniak> robyurkowski: Thanks, I'll try that.
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<Dysaniak> robyurkowski: Is there a gem I've got to require in a script to run this?
<Dysaniak> robyurkowsi: .to_yaml, I mean.
<Dysaniak> Doesn't look like it.
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<davidcelis> he left a while ago
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<Dysaniak> I just keep getting 'undefined method,' and I suspect that's some kind of library I haven't got, or I haven't pointed to...
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<Dysaniak> About 10 minutes, I guess, yeah.
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<thoughtfusion> require 'yaml'.. if you're still interested / haven't figured it out :)
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<Dysaniak> thoughtfusion: Thanks. That got me another step further!
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<Dysaniak> thoughtfusion: aka, I'm writing succesfully .to_yaml, but I'm a bit confused loading that back into a hash.
<thoughtfusion> Dysaniak: You should be able to do YAML.load(string) where string is the contents of your file
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<thoughtfusion> Dysaniak: so typically, you'd want YAML.load(File.open(filepath))
<thoughtfusion> which should return some ruby data types :)
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<Dysaniak> YAML.load(File.open(filepath)) is returning 'uninitialized constant YAML'
<Dysaniak> 5~WAIT.
<Dysaniak> Nah it ain't.
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<Dysaniak> Holy hell, everything's working...
<Dysaniak> Wow, those numbers get big fast.
<syntaxx> I am creating a simple script like when i select a server name it execute ssh and connect. I wonder if its possible in ruby. If I am reading net/ssh right all it can do is just connect and execute?
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<mksm> syntaxx, what else do you need?
<syntaxx> mksm, thats it. just connect to the ssh.
<syntaxx> mksm, like when using bash.. just ssh servername it connects to the server already
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<syntaxx> i am wondering if its possible.
<mksm> syntaxx, sure. it's describe in the docs.
<mksm> *described
<syntaxx> mksm, can you link me? can't seem to find it though
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<syntaxx> mksm, yeah but i dunno which feature to use to make the socket connected til i logout
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<thoughtfusion> sytaxx: if your script is really that simple, and you're on unix/linux, you could always just use a system() call
<thoughtfusion> (obviously it's not very secure)
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<Cerales> I'm trying to write some data to a file, and I'm defining its name by getting a folder path from a function and then appending a forward slash, followed by the filename. When I call file.new, it seems to just ignore the final forward slash, and put it at the same level as the directory i want the file to be in. anyone else experienced this?
<davidcelis> Can you put up a gist of what you're doing?
<davidcelis> That wasn't exactly the easiest thing to follow.
<Cerales> will go
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<David_Miller> anyone run more than one rails app, each with its own delayed_job daemon on a single server?
<David_Miller> I can't start more than one delayed_job instance it seems
<any-key> how are you running it?
<any-key> I always ran them as rake jobs:work and would run multiple on one machine just fune
<David_Miller> script/delayed_job start
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<any-key> give the rake one a go
<any-key> just for shits and giggles
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<David_Miller> I am thinking that will not daemonize like I want it to
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<David_Miller> ok, it works fine with script/delayed_job, i was just having a permission issue with the log file :)
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<RyanV> hi all
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<RyanV> just curious, is there a way to use methods like shift and pop inline? let me give you an example. a method like split on a string would return a copy of the array (rather than changing the original array), which makes it ideal for striking methods together. but there are times where Id like to pop off the last or beginning part of an array, then string another method onto it, but for an array ['a', 'b', 'c' ], using pop would return st
<RyanV> rather than returning the array with 'c' removed.
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<RyanV> so what would i be using if arr = [ "a", "b", "c" ] and I want to pop off the last item, but want arr to then equal [ "a", "b" ], instead of [ "c" ]
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<rippa> RyanV: arr = [ "a", "b", "c" ].tap(&:pop)
<ryanf> well just arr.pop, he didn't say anything about the return value
<ryanf> unless I missed some context
<rippa> arr should be [a, b]
<rippa> with #pop it would be c
<RyanV> you were right rippa, thanks
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<RyanV> i had been setting a trash array_var , to pop, then keep reusing the original array
<RyanV> it was driving me nuts
<RyanV> I'm still learning, so sometimes when I don't know how to do something, I'm able to get similar results by doing some work around, but usually theres like a single method that does it, hah
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<Time2303> o_O
<Time2303> Heya.
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<banisterfiend> Time2303: why the bung eyes
<Time2303> Oh, I wasn't sure whether or not there would be a channel for Ruby on here, then I noticed how many people there are
<Time2303> I was around the library looking for a IT book and found a programming book with a bit about Ruby so I'm looking at the tryruby.org stuff lol trying to figure out what Ruby would be useful for
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<Time2303> Ruby looks interesting, I've done a bit of visual basic / c++
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<wiickeed> Ruby is wicked
<davidcelis> lol
<wiickeed> ^^
<Time2303> xD
<davidcelis> "what Ruby would be useful for"
<davidcelis> lol
<davidcelis> most things, bro
<wiickeed> web apps
<Time2303> Never heard of it before, my brother said something about website programming
<wiickeed> yup
<davidcelis> Ruby on Rails is the most popular web development framework; built on Ruby
<davidcelis> aside from that, it's a very strong OO scripting language in general
<wiickeed> in my experience better than php and its frameworks
<wiickeed> easier to code much more readable
<Time2303> oh ok
<wiickeed> it was developed to be a "fun" language to write as said by its author
<wiickeed> : P
<Time2303> xD it looks fun
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<Time2303> I'm enjoying myself on the tryruby.org stuff
<davidcelis> It's designed to be a very readable language
<davidcelis> It's supposed to be syntactically readable like english
<Time2303> helps understanding it
<davidcelis> tryruby...
<davidcelis> i miss _why
<Quadlex> We all do
<Time2303> Anyway, my brother wants me to watch a doco so I'm going to go afk =p
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<bbrandon> How can I access data[:hello => 'world'] using a ruby symbol? :data[:hello]?
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<ryanf_> that is some pretty funky notation
<ryanf_> do you mean data = {:hello => 'world'} ?
<ryanf_> in that case, yes, data[:hello]
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<banisterfiend> burgestrand: hey
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<burgestrand> banisterfiend: 'lo
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<Time2303> Time2303: hi
<Time2303> :<
<burgestrand> i need a better irc client; the phone wont do
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<ni-ka> hey folks! for unit testing with rspec, is it good practice to have an array with parameters and loop to test a function with the different parameters? like https://gist.github.com/1496584
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<banisterfiend> burgestrand: you here?
<banisterfiend> burgestrand: can you tell me what more needs to be done to that before i release, i want to close it off so i can work on the exception_explorer thing now
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<Time2303> o_O
<Time2303> ha
<Time2303> Telecom.
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<geef> is there a way to compile ruby to bytecode like in python??
<rippa> jruby
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<Mon_Ouie> YARV already generates bytecode
<Mon_Ouie> And so does about every implementation except Ruby 1.8.7
<Mon_Ouie> YARV just doesn't store the bytecode on the disk
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<geef> is there anyway to store it on disk and execute later?
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<Mon_Ouie> Not with YARV, but Rubinius (and JRuby, I guess) allow you to store bytecode on the disk
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<adac> hash1.keys-hash2.keys gives me all keys of hash1 that are not present in hash2. Is there a way to remove those keys from hash1 in an easy way?
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<Mon_Ouie> keys.each { |k| hash.delete k }
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<adac> Mon_Ouie, hash1.keys-hash2.keys.each { |k| hash1.delete k } is this correct?
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<Mon_Ouie> nO
<Mon_Ouie> This will call each on hash2.keys
<Mon_Ouie> Not on hash1.keys - hash2.keys; you need parens
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<adac> Mon_Ouie, did the trick, thank you!
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<banisterfiend> Mon_Ouie: is that you doing tht?
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<Mon_Ouie> Doing what?
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<banisterfiend> Mon_Ouie: disconnecting everyone
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<anders_> hi
<anders_> anyone is interested in devise?
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<kysmith> since when does whitespace matter while defining hash? (removing some whitespace fixed some syntax errors I was getting)
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<Mon_Ouie> Whitespaces matter in several cases
<Mon_Ouie> e.g. foo (bar, baz) is not valid, foo(bar, baz) is
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<kapowaz> anybody here familiar with sinatra_warden? I'm trying to use it with datamapper through dm-is-authenticatable, but not having much joy.
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<Tasser> kapowaz, there's #datamapper
<Barakas> hi all, I'm looking for a library to add records and check a Windows DNS (Active Directory). Does somebody have an idea ? Thanks for help :)
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<pencilcheck> anyone using pg gem? how do you do nonblocking asynchronous execution?
<pencilcheck> for a continuous stream of data
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<solars> whats the nicest way of doing string.starts_with?(prefix)?
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<Afal> just like that?
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<solars> oh
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<solars> damn
<solars> :)
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<zi> Is activerecord bound to rails?
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<catphish> zi: you can use AR on its own
<zi> Cool. :]
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<catphish> new http://therubygame.com challenge for Christmas :)
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<kapowaz> Tasser: yeah, it's not really a datamapper question per se.
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<robe> hello
<robe> !list
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<ycy> yo
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<ycy> i developed a small ruby program (that outputs some string examples using 'puts') - works in the command line. Now I'd like to see the output in a browser (e.g. http://localhost/program ) what do I have to look for? sinatra?
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<catphish> sinarta is a nice simple way to start, yed
<catphish> *yes
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<Barakas_> hi all, I'm looking for a library to add records and check a Windows DNS (Active Directory). Does somebody have an idea ? Thanks for help :)
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<fragrant> Hi, is there any good ruby forum?
<fragrant> to ask questions
<fragrant> Hi, is there any good active ruby forum to ask questions?
<shevy> fragrant there is a ruby forum
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<moonunitt> can anyone help explain this line to me
<moonunitt> if next_move.include? "0" or next_move.include? "1"
<moonunitt> its used in a rpg type text game. and trying to udnerstand HOW it works.
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<spinagon> moonunitt: what you don't understand?
<moonunitt> varible.include?"0"/"1" i
<moonunitt> um
<moonunitt> im super new to codeing and ruby
<spinagon> if (next_move.include?("0") or next_move.include?("1"))
<moonunitt> so bare with me
<spinagon> #include? is a method
<spinagon> "0" and "1" are parameters
<moonunitt> but does that line determin if its "true" or not,
<moonunitt> the 0 and 1
<spinagon> this expression returns true if either of subexpressions is true
<adac> I have two arrays and i need to compare them and get back: differences between entries and entries that are only in one of the two arrays. any ideas what is the best way to do that?
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<spinagon> adac: a1 - a2; a2 - a1
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<moonunitt> also one more thing
<moonunitt> how_much = next_move.to_i()
<moonunitt> in the tut im using this guy uses "i" alot. does I mean anything in ruby or is he just using as a palce holder?
<moonunitt> dont see it defined anywhere
<samuelkadolph> moonunitt: to_i means convert to integer
<samuelkadolph> ri String#to_i
<moonunitt> that makes sense
<moonunitt> ty
<shevy> to_be means to be or not to be
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<spinagon> String#to_the_pain
<shevy> that looks as if it would hurt
<shevy> it's surely considered harmful
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<kapowaz> is there a bundler command to uninstall all gems in a given gemset and then reinstall as if doing bundle install with a clean gemset?
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<burgestrand> kapowaz: why don’t you empty the gemset and do a fresh bundle yourself?
<kapowaz> well I suppose I could do that...
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<burgestrand> I don’t expect bundler to know anything too much about my gemsets, but I do know there’s something that cleans off old gems but that might only be if you’re using gem caching
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<kapowaz> mm
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<t-mart> what's the motivation behind writing your own eql? it seems like other.hash == hash would be sufficient. i see the convention is to check things like instance_of?(self.class) or is_a?(Thing). maybe people are paranoid about hash collision?
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<fragrant> I can't confirm ruby mailing list confirmation
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<fragrant> What to do?
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<apeiros_> t-mart: #hash and #eql? must be changed together, always
<apeiros_> changing one will lead to broken behaviour when using the object as a hash key
<apeiros_> (which happens in other places than just in Hashes too, e.g. Array#uniq makes use of it, or Array#- etc.)
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<t-mart> apeiros_, right, i get that but, wouldn't a "relatively" safe default for eql? be to ask other.hash == hash? what's all this type checking nonsense?
<apeiros_> no, that wouldn't be sane at all.
<fragrant> This is the mail i got, http://bpaste.net/show/21064/ , can anyone tell how to confirm mailing list subscribe?
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<apeiros_> .hash returns a number with a limited upper end, meaning that you're bound to have collisions.
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<t-mart> yes! that's what im getting at.
<t-mart> ok
<apeiros_> you'd defeat the entire purpose of there being an eql? in the first place.
<apeiros_> the purpose of eql? is *precisely* to check whether two objects which have the same hash really are the same object (or are to be considered equal)
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<t-mart> ok, and hash is just to get the right bucket?
<apeiros_> hash is the short-cut, yes
<t-mart> i see
<t-mart> great. thanks, apeiros_ . that clears up a lot.
<savage-> you guys like sports?
<xissburg> no
<savage-> i'd really like to create a spreecast for like a ruby show or something.
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<savage-> take live questions, etc.
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<t-mart> hey, summer sanders
<t-mart> she did that nickelodeon talent show thing
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<fragrant> Ah, Now i'm added to mailing list, i'm going to send a welcome message to mailing list.
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<samuelkadolph> Don't
<davidcelis> lol, what. don't do that.
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<fragrant> Why not?
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<davidcelis> because that's spammy?
<davidcelis> and nobody wants one of those emails?
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<fragrant> Ok, then i'm going to ask a question there.
<t-mart> well, you're here, aren't you?
<t-mart> i'd say, irc comes before mailing list
<fragrant> But i can't login in ruby-forum
<fragrant> What's the password for ruby-forum? I didn't get any password from mailing list
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<shevy> you can login with your google account
<t-mart> im saying, ask your question here. it's like you're using irc, to then use the mailing list, to then use the forum. what are you ultimately trying to know?
<fragrant> I registered to mailing list with yahoo account.
<shevy> t-mart I think he is up to something biiiiiiiiiiiig
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<davidcelis> lol this is the worst Ruby-related question
<shevy> you can't
<davidcelis> ever
<shevy> you are doomed fragrant
<shevy> get some beer
<i_am_fragrant> fragrant I picked that nick already
<t-mart> just missed it, fragrant
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<fragrant> i_am_fragrant: Why can't i?
<moonunitt> can anyone help me for a sec
<davidcelis> dude
<fragrant> i_am_fragrant: Then why did i have to type firstname lastname during subscribing in mailing list?
<davidcelis> you were in here yesterday asking for help with very similar looking code, moonunitt
<davidcelis> Indent. Your code.
<moonunitt> not sure what im doing wrong, code isnt close to being done but still dont understand why it wont run. after i enter the first option
<moonunitt> haha yes, ive been working on it
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<davidcelis> No, seriously
<davidcelis> indent it.
<davidcelis> I'm willing to bet that you will find the problem if you do.
<moonunitt> i am, cant you tell the improvment
<davidcelis> No, actually
<davidcelis> It looks worse
<moonunitt> lol
<moonunitt> its diffrent how i have it in my editor
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<moonunitt> than how it is on paste
<davidcelis> Then use this site instead: https://gist.github.com/
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<davidcelis> Maybe codepad just sucks
<moonunitt> I dont just get why i cant get to my "first room" in that code, it just goes back to commandline
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<davidcelis> I'll be honest man... I'm not even going to read through that. It's unreadable in its current state. If you want to reindent it and then come back, cool. But from conversations yesterday, you seem to know what the indentation conventions are for Ruby, so I'm not going to indent it for you
<apeiros_> moonunitt: the one about indentation is serious
<moonunitt> yea
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<apeiros_> there's a lot of people who'll glance at your code and just think "unreadable" and not bother to say anything.
<moonunitt> you guys are right
<moonunitt> figured it out
* apeiros_ included
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<gearaholic> I've noticed when i quit a irb shell, a ruby process stays open, sometimes stuck at 100% cpu. I am on Mac OS X 10.7.2 and using 1.9.3-p0 (rvm). should i be clossing irb a certain way?
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<shevy> gearaholic how do you quit? i use exit (rather q, aliased to exit)
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<gearaholic> ctrl+z
<davidcelis> use exit
<apeiros_> ctrl-z doesn't quit
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<samuelkadolph> ^Z is stop, not term
<gearaholic> ah ok
<samuelkadolph> Use ^D to send an EOF character or type exit
<apeiros_> or alias exit to q
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<samuelkadolph> I prefer ^D since it should work with any REPL
<catphish> does anyone know how to set the maximum memory consumption of a ruby process in linux?
<catphish> Process.setrlimit(:RSS, 1024*1024*100) appears not to work
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<srid> anybody want to take this ruby challenge? nobody seem to be able to answer it: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8539305 - or EventMachine.popen just poorly designed?
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<samuelkadolph> catphish: RLIMIT_RSS doesn't really do anything. It's only enforced via madvise(2)
<catphish> is there a way to set a hard limit on allocated memory?
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<deryl> catphish: iirc you can use ulimit on the host
<deryl> man ulimit for more details
<catphish> ok, i had hoped that would be available inside ruby, but i guess i can ulimit first then fork from bash
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<deryl> it might be, that was the first thing that came to mind
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<catphish> thanks
<deryl> welcome
<deryl> googling myself, i don't see a rubyrc capability
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<runa> heyas. I'm using minitest against an external API that is rate-limiting my reqs. is it possible to add a pause between tests?
<davidcelis> You could do a sleep in an after(:each)
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<runa> davidcelis: can you point me to an example?
<davidcelis> like... in the documentation..?
<davidcelis> first of all, is this a Unit testcase, or a spec?
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<runa> davidcelis: well, I found this in the docs "Customizable Test Runner Types" but I'm not sure if this is what you mean http://bfts.rubyforge.org/minitest/index.html#classes
<runa> davidcelis: unit testcase
<davidcelis> straight from the doc :P
<runa> davidcelis: thanks, that was exactly what I was looking for.
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<moonunitt> can anyone point me to documentaitoin where i can learn about dice rolls in ruby?
<moonunitt> or can anyone give me a quick walkthru
<apeiros_> moonunitt: rand(6)+1
<apeiros_> see Kernel#rand
<moonunitt> in a month ill reward you all with the most epic goonies D&d style rpg
<apeiros_> above would be a roll of a six sided die.
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<moonunitt> +2 would be 2 die?
<apeiros_> no
<apeiros_> +2 would be a funny six sided die with numbers from 2 to 7
<apeiros_> instead of 1 to 6
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<nlew> "ruby dice library" on google has some promising results
<moonunitt> ah ok, the +1 just moves 0 to 1
<moonunitt> ok ty
<apeiros_> moonunitt: yes
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<nlew> So Ruby 1.9 changed the inherited callback on a class defined with Class.new(Super, &block) to fire before evaluating the block, which means the class has no name while evaluating the block.
<nlew> Any way to get it a name during the call to inherited? :/
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<nlew> Ooooor suppress the callback
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<shevy> hmm
<shevy> I must switch to ruby 1.9.3x
<samuelkadolph> shevy: You haven't even switched to 1.9.2, so I doubt you will
<shevy> 1.9.2 is below my radar
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<samuelkadolph> So you're vulnerable to RSM: Ruby to shevy missiles?
<shevy> every 1.9.x iteration worked better than the one before so far
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<shevy> I could perhaps wait for 1.9.4 :D
<fennec> anyone here intimiately familiar with the 'bunny' gem?
<nlew> no, but now I really, really want to be
<shevy> what a name
<fennec> it's a rabbitmq client
<samuelkadolph> "A synchronous Ruby AMQP client that enables interaction with AMQP-compliant brokers."
<samuelkadolph> Boournes
<shevy> ruby programmers have this odd tendency to give their projects silly names
<fennec> yeah, ampq
<fennec> er, amqp
<samuelkadolph> shevy: YOU CAN'T HAVE MY UNICORN
<fennec> shevy - easier to remember than 'amqp'
<shevy> samuelkadolph hmm what odd project names did you make up so far? :)
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<shevy> fennec yeah
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<shevy> "god" leads my personal hate list of silly names for a project
<shevy> unicorn is somewhat quite up high on that list too
<shevy> bunny, I'd put a bit below unicorn
<nlew> Rainbows! is worse than Unicorn.
<fennec> and anything is better than WebSphere Client Technologies Micro Edition (WCTME) </ibm>
<shevy> there is a ruby project called rainbows?
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<nlew> no
<nlew> Rainbows!
<shevy> hmm that annoys me
<nlew> it's a fork of unicorn, to handle high-latency apps/clients
<shevy> argh
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<Spaceghostc2c> I need to dynamically define methods, and at first I reach for method_missing, but I'm not sure if I should just use that, or Delegate and possible Forwardable.
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<Tasser> Spaceghostc2c, what do you need the methods for?
<berserkr> hello all. i've a virtual machine with apache, mod_fcgid, suexec, ruby, rails, etc... and all works correctly, but the use of memory of the cgi process is about 22% of the total (512MB). Anyone know what's up?? I have PHP with fcgid too and only use 2% of memory...
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<Tasser> berserkr, #rubyonrails
<berserkr> Tasser: thanks and sorry for the inconvenient
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<Spaceghostc2c> Tasser… I'm defining methods for accessing a hash. Like find_for_billing_info
<Spaceghostc2c> The hash is derived from a json response.
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<davidcelis> Spaceghostc2c: ...
<Tasser> Spaceghostc2c, aww, RoR-style method_missing abuse
<Spaceghostc2c> Tasser… That's what I was hoping to avoid this time.
<Spaceghostc2c> But I've never used delegate in this fashion, is that even doable?
<Tasser> Spaceghostc2c, #find(:for_billing_info)
<Tasser> or what?
<Spaceghostc2c> Tasser… Well, the method needs to take an argument. Like find_for_billing_info ('setup)
<Spaceghostc2c> Tasser… Well, the method needs to take an argument. Like find_for_billing_info ('setup')
<Spaceghostc2c> Which would find billing_info in the hash with a status of setup.
<Tasser> Spaceghostc2c, #find(:billing_info, :setup) ?
<Spaceghostc2c> That could work.
<Spaceghostc2c> Would delegate and forwardable be the stuff I should use?
<Tasser> why even use it?
<csavola> Spaceghostc2c: or create a model that represents what you are trying to write instead of exposing implementation (Hash)
<Spaceghostc2c> csavola… This isn't for rails.
<Tasser> Spaceghostc2c, don't overdo the abstraction
<csavola> Spaceghostc2c: that suggestion isn't for rails :)
<Spaceghostc2c> I suppose I'll just go read more manual.
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<Spaceghostc2c> Because the amount of methods I'd have to write is pretty large. The hash is huge.
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<Tasser> Spaceghostc2c, why the heck do you want to write methods for each hash key?
<shevy> when he wants to check user input against a method call for instance
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<Spaceghostc2c> I'm working on some session querying.
<Tasser> shevy, that's what blocks are for?
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<Spaceghostc2c> I need to query the hash for keys based on a status.
<llaskin> if value = '$0.78', then why does value.strip.to_f == 0.0?
<samuelkadolph> llaskin: Because of the $
<llaskin> oh realllly?
<Tasser> Spaceghostc2c, so create a huge hash for a mapping status => keys
<samuelkadolph> $ isn't a digit
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<Spaceghostc2c> Tasser… Create a second hash from the already huge first hash when I'm getting the first from a database based on a query?
<Spaceghostc2c> I don't see how that helps me create methods to query it simply.
<Tasser> Spaceghostc2c, gimme an example
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<Spaceghostc2c> I think the thing I actually have a question about is do people use delegate and maybe forwardable for creating dynamic methods for convenience?
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<Spaceghostc2c> Like, we store (for some reason I don't know) the user agent in the hash for each document, but when we query, we're querying all documents for the user agent.
<Tasser> Spaceghostc2c, create your own indexes or use SQL.
<Spaceghostc2c> So being able to build a query that'd return the hash from the queried documents by using a convenience method that gets defined at runtime instead of a class with what I think would be >150 methods would be considerably helpful.
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<Spaceghostc2c> Tasser… So about my actual question though. Defining dynamic methods with delegate?
<Tasser> Spaceghostc2c, should work, delgate proxies method calls
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<Tasser> but I still question your approach
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<Spaceghostc2c> I'm only one dev in the team of like, a bunch of people I haven't even met yet. I don't think I can go changing the database on them.
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<Spaceghostc2c> I can refactor other parts later, but all I need to deal with is creating methods for other developers and for the query builder at the moment.
<Spaceghostc2c> If I were to make some decisions, I'd actually just use orientdb and just use my sexy tinkerpop tools.
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<Jarred> Does anyone know of any speech to text libraries for Ruby?
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<Spaceghostc2c> Forwardable is kind of cool, it seems to act closer to a symlink than alias, which is kind of hardlink-like?
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<nlew> alias is more akin to cp
<samuelkadolph> Yes since if you change the original method the aliased one won't change
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<nvictor> hi all
<nvictor> i'm having some issues with gem
<nvictor> the command
<nvictor> it won't let me install anything saying i dont have permission to install in
<orospakr> Hi! I'm using the ruby-mode in emacs 23, but the hanging behaviour of array [] brackets is all wrong: it will hang right below, rather than merely during a normal indent on the next line. Hash {} brackets do the right thing.
<orospakr> any recommendations? :)
<nvictor> /opt/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.8
<nvictor> the command is run without sudo on purpose
<nvictor> because i'm not supposed to use the system wide ruby
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<orospakr> s/during/by means of/
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<conor_ireland> hi
<srid> is there a way to install a gem from a development repo? eg: i want to pull this change as gem, https://github.com/sinatra/sinatra/pull/132/files
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<srid> (via bundler)
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<conor_ireland> i have an array of strings that i want to change, which works fine if i use sub/gsub. but what would be a way to check a string for a letter in ruby and then replace it using each, collect or select?
<conor_ireland> but it is just using gsub within the each
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<asQuirreL> marnin all
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<irocksu> hi
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<asQuirreL> I've got a bit of an annoying problem...
<irocksu> i know it is possible to install a gem with gem install somegem.gem
<asQuirreL> in my code, errors seem to just be ignoring my begin..rescue block
<irocksu> is it possible to put all my *.gem in a directory and install them with the normal gem -v 1.0.0 somegem command?
<irocksu> so i do not have to download them again
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<asQuirreL> cancel that, got it... it was a syntaxerror >.>
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<moonunitt> is there an online paste pad i can put my code in and run it
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<moonunitt> other than code pad, i want to beable to interact with the code, as im getting an error once i get to a certin script
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<jamiejackson> when should one do a "bundle install" versus a "gem install", and vice versa?
<samuelkadolph> jamiejackson: bundle install is when you are using bundler (have a Gemfile) and want to install all gems in it
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<jamiejackson> thanks samuelkadolph . I'm new to the Ruby/Rails world. I have to deploy an inherited RoR application to a java server. Is Bundler recommended even when warbler is used? (all this stuff is new to me, sorry)
<samuelkadolph> jamiejackson: warbler works with bundler if you are using it
<jamiejackson> samuelkadolph, the reason i ask about bundler is because when i run warbler in the app root:
<jamiejackson> jamie@icf109118-Ubuntu:~/workspace_ruby/blog2$ warble config
<jamiejackson> Could not find coffee-rails-3.1.1 in any of the sources
<jamiejackson> Run `bundle install` to install missing gems.
<samuelkadolph> Then do as it says and install the gems you need
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<jamiejackson> okay
<samuelkadolph> Using bundle install
<jamiejackson> okay, samuelkadolph
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<smeagle> is ruby as flexible as i think?
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<tdmackey_> how flexible do you think it is?
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<samuelkadolph> So flexible it can touch its toes
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<shevy> man
<shevy> ruby is so flexible, it makes the moebius strip gasp in awe
<shevy> hmm I am staring at python code
<shevy> i is the input
<shevy> phrase_letters = [c for c in i.lower() if c.isalpha()]
<shevy> what the heck does that all mean :(
<yxhuvud> shevy: it means python people read their loops inside out.
<fennec> looks like it extracts all the lowercase letters in i
<shevy> inside out?
<shevy> I find that very confusing!
<shevy> my brain is too much matched towards .each
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<fennec> actually, it looks like it extracts all the letters in i and makes them lowercase, i should say
<yxhuvud> shevy: it is basically doing c.select( &:isalpha).select {|c| i.lower.include? c} or something like that.
<shevy> aaah
<fennec> i could be wrong
<fennec> but it looks more like it's doing
<CannedCorn> is there a method to see local variables in ruby
<yxhuvud> uhm wait I am way wrong.
<fennec> i think it's doing i.lower.select {|char| char.isalpha? }
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<fennec> or something like that
<fennec> +- method names
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<fennec> and the fact that you can't call select on a string
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<fennec> so I think it would turn 'Ruby! It's awesome!' into 'rubyitsawesome'
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<shevy> hmm
<shevy> that would be kinda a cool programming language
<shevy> where, rather than writing method, you write input strings and output strings, and let the computer figure out the rest :D
<banisterfiend> fennec: Strings were enumerable in 1.8
<fennec> hmm? i maybe using the wrong irb executable, haha
<fennec> NoMethodError: private method `select' called for "foobar":String
<fennec> no, here it is
<fennec> ack, echo
<fennec> my apologies
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<fennec> i guess you could stuff an each_char in the middle there and it'd work though
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<asQuirreL> shevy: that isn't as useful as it sounds :P
<shevy> asQuirreL hmm but if it would work!
<shevy> imagine that
<asQuirreL> shevy: we'd be out of a job
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<asQuirreL> xD
<shevy> well
<shevy> I guess there would be some conflicting method resolution in the programming hyperspace
<apeiros_> shevy: such programming languages do exist
<asQuirreL> shevy: haskell uses pattern matching
<apeiros_> not exactly with in- and output strings
<asQuirreL> that's about as close as you can get
<apeiros_> but the notion of "I tell you what I have and what I'm looking for, you solve it"
<burgestrand> prolog
<shevy> :)
<asQuirreL> that's different
<asQuirreL> that's like an inference engine
<asQuirreL> things that you can feed facts
<asQuirreL> and then get it to make inferences from
<asQuirreL> like "all dogs are mammals", "all cats are mammals" and then asking "are cats dogs?"
<asQuirreL> I might write one of those... seems like an interesting project... :P
<burgestrand> A is the parent of B, B is the sibling of C, D is the aunt of F and who’s your daddy?
<asQuirreL> burgestrand: yeah
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<asQuirreL> but anyway
<shevy> A is the parent of B, B is the sibling of C, D is the aunt of F and how old is your daddy
<asQuirreL> shevy: you can't infer that from the information given :P
<Jarred> Does anyone know of any voice recognition libraries for Ruby?
<shevy> yeah
<asQuirreL> shevy: unless you had your ages
<asQuirreL> or the ages of everyone in question
<shevy> but there are finite ways from ... "abc" to ... "aBc" ... and what would be awesome would be ... to return a listing of methods, simplest solutions first, to solve that
<asQuirreL> then you could limit it to a particular range D
<asQuirreL> *xD
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<asQuirreL> shevy: that's really a rather complicated task :P
<shevy> !
<shevy> the input is easy!
<shevy> the output is easy!
<asQuirreL> no.... not the actual process :P
<asQuirreL> the process of finding the process
<shevy> we gotta be prepared for the year 2100
<shevy> less than 90 years to go, a very few of us may even experience it :P
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<theRoUS> meh. i'm working in a gem tree created by Jeweler. my test script starts with "require 'rubygems' ; require 'helper' ; require 'ruby-debug' ; Debugger.start"
<theRoUS> "rake test" blows up with :in `require': no such file to load -- ruby-debug (LoadError)
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<shevy> cool
<asQuirreL> shevy: check it out matric.herokuapp.com
<asQuirreL> what I've been working on :P
<asQuirreL> it's only really useful if you know what matrices are
<asQuirreL> but it can perform as a regular calculator
<theRoUS> i've never encountered anything like *that* before.. that coudn't be fixed with a "require 'rubygems'"
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<theRoUS> particularly since this works: rake -e 'require "ruby-debug"'
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<shevy> asQuirreL hmm sadly
<shevy> I cant read that page
<shevy> no idea why firefox doesnt like it
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<roblak> i have an array of objects that have a 'value' attribute set on them. i have a desired value in another variable. what's the cleanest way to find the object with the matching value?
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<roblak> (i'm hoping to be enlightened on some array method that will allow it in one line)
<shevy> hmmm perhaps ... .select or .find
<shevy> though I have to pass on one-liners, I was never good with them
<roblak> shevy: find/detect looks perfect. thx!
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<CannedCorn> can you concatenate regular expressions?
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<Norrin> strings concatenate. choose a new verb...
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<shevy> CannedCorn what does that mean?
<CannedCorn> regx = /blah/ regx2 = /blah2/; regx + regex2 = ?
<epochwolf|vps> CannedCorn: try it?
<Jarred> Is there any means of accessing/using Ruby from Cygwin?
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<zxiest> Hey =)
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<zxiest> Is ruby now excluding the "," when calling a function with a parameter and a block?
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<zxiest> i.e: I used to be able to do x.include_by? a, do { |x| x[:lable] }
<zxiest> but now I have to omit the comma
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<mxweas_> I installed ruby 1.9.3 from source, when I run 'gem install mysql' it says "You have to install development tools first."
<mxweas_> are the dev tools available?
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<Jarred> I think it needs GCC
<Jarred> If this is on Windows, you need to get the development kit from rubyinstaller.org
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<davidcelis> The hero of Canton, the man they call 7
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