ljarvis changed the topic of #ruby-lang to: Ruby 2.1.2; 2.0.0-p481; 1.9.3-p547: http://ruby-lang.org || Paste code on http://gist.github.com
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<T_Dog> Oh hey
<T_Dog> is anyone around at the moment?
<centrx> Quite
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<centrx> Actually I take that back
<centrx> You'll have to ask a question to find out
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<centrx> I guess it turns out I am the only one around after all.
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<zenspider> mistym: oi. yt?
<mistym> zenspider: Yep!
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<centrx> drbrain, FYI the Mechanize rubygems page links to mechanize.rubyforge.net for documentation, which no longer exists
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<majjoha> I have an array of methods as symbols that I want to delegate to an object. def_delegators doesn't accept an array, so what would be the prettiest solution for me? Just do an each and use def_delegator for every item, or can I somehow pass the array to def_delegators in a painless way?
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<centrx> majjoha, You want to delegate each method named in the array?
<majjoha> Exactly.
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<majjoha> centrx, so right now I am basically doing something similar to this: %i(to_s to_i to_a).each { |method| def_delegator :magic_object, method }
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<majjoha> Where the array is a constant defined in a module in another file, though.
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<centrx> majjoha, That seems like the right solution
<centrx> majjoha, You could also use the delegate method from ActiveSupport/Rails. It supports passing multiple method names
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<zenspider> mistym: sorry. got distracted. am I crossing wires? do you work on melpa? or just homebrew?
<majjoha> centrx, I'd like to try to avoid ActiveSupport for this project I am working on, so I guess I'll just keep iterating over each element. Thanks!
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<zenspider> man factor is a wierd language.
<mistym> zenspider: Just homebrew. I actually am not familiar with melpa!
<zenspider> glad to see it is back on its feet
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<zenspider> mistym: melpa is one of the package repos for emacs
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<mistym> zenspider: Ah, okay
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<majjoha> centrx: I actually just did some more digging, and I can apparently pass a hash to delegate, so I can write delegate Nice::Methods => :my_object, and it accepts an array. Hooray.
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<macsplean1> anybody have any idea what happened? a lot of my ruby files had some text inserted somehow that breaks them. there is a "<<<<<<< HEAD" line and later on ">>>>>>>" followed by a bunch of random-looking numbers & letters
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<Cages> Hi all.
<T_Dog> Oh hey cages
<T_Dog> how is it going
<Cages> Good. I am new to Ruby and programming in general. Was hoping for some help with a quick question.
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<T_Dog> Dude yeah sure
<T_Dog> I'm just learning ruby for now
<T_Dog> but I have used python for a while:)
<Cages> I am wanting to change my defauly prompt from the simple prompt to the inf-ruby prompt on a MAC
<Cages> not sure how to do this
<T_Dog> hmm I'm a windows user dude
<T_Dog> so I dunno
<T_Dog> what do you mean by your promt?
<Cages> Ok
<Cages> Like >>
<Cages> or, what i want, is irb(main):001:0>
<T_Dog> ohhh
<T_Dog> um shit
<T_Dog> found it!
<T_Dog> try loading irb
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<Cages> ol
<Cages> ok*
<Cages> done
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<T_Dog> dide
<T_Dog> dude
<T_Dog> didt it work?
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<maloik> Anyone have that M+ font installed?
<maloik> And actually use it, of course
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<ljarvis> it's too thin for me
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<yorickpeterse> morning
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<maloik> ljarvis: that's what I was wondering about, it would require me to increase the size of my current font (monaco)
<maloik> pretty weird considering the screenshots from the blog post I read about it looked pretty great
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<ljarvis> heh
<ljarvis> I use bitstream vera sans mono
<ljarvis> for like everything
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<yorickpeterse> Dina 8
<yorickpeterse> always
<yorickpeterse> Having said that, I would certainly appreciate it if it wasn't a bitmap font
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<tbuehlmann> yorickpeterse, haha
<tbuehlmann> twitter these days, oh my
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<yorickpeterse> Yeah it's buggy as hell
<maloik> the site? or some kind of app or.. ?
<maloik> I hardly notice any problems but I only use iOS and OSX apps
<yorickpeterse> The website
<yorickpeterse> I need no app
<yorickpeterse> Also my Twitter password is too long to type on a phone
<maloik> well clearly you do :P
<maloik> and well so is mine, hurray for 1password iOS app
<maloik> not that that would stop me, it's saved in keychain anyway
<DefV> maloik: do you guys still integrate with Ogone?
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<maloik> nope
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<maloik> sounds like you have a fun day ahead, given that you're asking :P
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<DefV> maloik: oh, you guys don't support BankContact anymore. any specific reason why you dropped ogone?
<DefV> and no, not today
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<maloik> mostly cause it's a PITA to work with
<maloik> and I think it was pretty expensive as well
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<yorickpeterse> Ah, the hunt for a feature that was supposed to work a year ago, appears to've never worked, and won't work today
<matti> Ohai yorickpeterse
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<yorickpeterse> matti: hai
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<yorickpeterse> Apparently this feature was never really used either
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<yorickpeterse> aaaaaand apparently in March 2013 I fucked up
<yorickpeterse> This never worked
<yorickpeterse> yay past me
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<yorickpeterse> Draper::VERSION # => "0.10.0"
<yorickpeterse> ._.
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<banisterfiend> yorickpeterse goed morgen
<surrounder> *goede
<yorickpeterse> banisterfiend: dude it's noon already
<yorickpeterse> and what surrounder said
<banisterfiend> goede arvon meneer
<surrounder> *avond
<banisterfiend> my dutch is improving
<banisterfiend> :)
<surrounder> hehe
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<banisterfiend> irb sucks so hard
<DefV> irb zuigt zo hard.
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<DefV> you should learn to curse in dutch
<banisterfiend> forced to use it as the production console, if you type a few things wrong it gets stuck and ^D ends up making it panic and quitting
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<banisterfiend> how do i make it just forget the current expression without it quitting?
<DefV> ctrl-c
<banisterfiend> so ^C makes it break out of the expression and ^D quits? :P weird
<yorickpeterse> banisterfiend: http://lucapette.com/pry/pry-everywhere/
<banisterfiend> yorickpeterse do you use pry as your production console?
<yorickpeterse> Yup
<yorickpeterse> The one thing we all agree on at the office is Pry > IRB
<yorickpeterse> pry, pry-doc and pry-theme are pretty much in all our dev Gem groups
<dangerousdave> I have a couple of classes, both of which make use of external api's. What is the best way to manage that api? should each class establish their own handle so they can operate independantly?
<DefV> banisterfiend: but pry does the same thing?
<yorickpeterse> dangerousdave: one way to handle this is to pass in a client instance in the constructor
<dangerousdave> perhaps a global? i know thats frowned on, but perhaps its appropriate here?
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<DefV> banisterfiend: it's what you expect from a shell.. ctrl-c cancels the current line (or running program), ctrl-d exits the shell
<dangerousdave> yorickpeterse, yes, that would do it, but the class would be moore coupled as a consequence
<banisterfiend> DefV no, ^D breaks out of the current expression (if you're in an expression)
<yorickpeterse> dangerousdave: either it has an explicit dependency, or it has an implicit one
<yorickpeterse> In the end it will need an API client instance of some sort
<dangerousdave> yorickpeterse, true, thanks
<yorickpeterse> You can have it create its own instances, but then you probably need a global configuration object
<yorickpeterse> Which in turn will prevent you from using independant clients in the same runtime
<DefV> banisterfiend: not in my shell
<banisterfiend> DefV not sure how that's possible, could you record a showterm.io ?
<yorickpeterse> ^C doesn't kill IRB, only ^D does
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<yorickpeterse> (at least on Lunix)
<DefV> banisterfiend: showterm kind of sucks for just zsh it seems
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<DefV> zsh
<DefV> first time I use ctrl-c
<DefV> then I use ctrl-d
<DefV> then I ctrl-c a few times
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<DefV> and in the end kill the shell with ctrl-d
<banisterfiend> DefV is that pry?
<DefV> no thats just zsh
<DefV> but it works the same in pry
<DefV> ctrl-c = exit expression
<DefV> ctrl-d = quit pry
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<dangerousdave> yorickpeterse, I also have yaml configuration file that is read in, and the values are used throughout multiple classes. I am thinking some sort of singleton to manage global config and apis?
<yorickpeterse> dangerousdave: I'd suggest against using any globals, it makes it much harder to use multiple, separate client instances
<yorickpeterse> Also makes multi-threading and testing more of a PITA
<yorickpeterse> I typically do something like this:
<yorickpeterse> client = MyFooClient.new(....); endpoint = SomeEndointClass.new(client); endpoint.get('derp')
<yorickpeterse> You can also do it the other way around: make endpoints modules and include them into a single client class
<yorickpeterse> Then you can do `client = MyFooClient.new(...); client.get_some_endpoint`
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<dangerousdave> yorickpeterse, as in the second answer here? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4110866/ruby-on-rails-where-to-define-global-constants
<yorickpeterse> blegh, don't do that
<yorickpeterse> At least namespace your constants
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<banisterfiend> DefV ^D also exits expression
<DefV> banisterfiend: not here
<banisterfiend> DefV type: def hello
<banisterfiend> DefV press etner, then type ^D
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<DefV> ah, that way, yes
<DefV> we were talking about different things
<banisterfiend> that's what 'exits an expression' means, unless you have an active expression, there's no expression to exit ;)
<banisterfiend> anyway cool thx for checking it
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<maloik> anyone happen to know how you pronounce 'Grzegorz' ?
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<yorickpeterse> maloik: I think you can get away with "Gregor"
<banisterfiend> yorickpeterse do you have any experience setting up a VPN?
<banisterfiend> yorickpeterse also, do you use netflix?
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<yorickpeterse> banisterfiend: sort of, and no
<yorickpeterse> I just use SSH for my VPN'ing needs
<yorickpeterse> I don't use Netflix though
<banisterfiend> yorickpeterse yeah i'm currently using an ssh tunnel to get american netflix, but a vpn would be more convenient
<yorickpeterse> ssh -C -N -D 8888 some_remote_host # use localhost:8888 as your SOCKS5 proxy
<yorickpeterse> We have Netflix in .nl though
<yorickpeterse> Or do they limit what you can see over here?
<banisterfiend> yorickpeterse they limit it
<yorickpeterse> Ah
<maloik> yorickpeterse: probably yes but I'm still wondering :D
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<banisterfiend> yorickpeterse you should check out netflix (esp if you can proxy through an american server), it's pretty sweet
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<yorickpeterse> meh
<banisterfiend> yorickpeterse +100 if you can combine it with a chromecast
<yorickpeterse> I hardly watch movies/series
<banisterfiend> yorickpeterse well at least get a chromecast so you can watch railscasts on your tv ;)
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<maloik> never thought I'd say this, but shit, pinterest is broken
<yorickpeterse> banisterfiend: aint got no time for that
<banisterfiend> yorickpeterse what are you so busy doing anyway?
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<yorickpeterse> banisterfiend: code
<yorickpeterse> so basically work, open sauce and some form of a social life (or what's left of it)
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<banisterfiend> yorickpeterse oh what are you working on these days? (aside from work)
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<yorickpeterse> https://github.com/yorickpeterse/oga mainly this atm
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<yorickpeterse> (work happens on the "xpath" branch atm)
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<banisterfiend> yorickpeterse nice:)
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* [gnubie] waevs
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<[gnubie]> what is the equivalent of dialog in ruby to create tui?
<yorickpeterse> banisterfiend: besides that I work on ruby-lint still, and Rbx
<yorickpeterse> and all the other stuff I bump into being broken during $WORK
<yorickpeterse> [gnubie]: "dialog", "tui"?
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<banisterfiend> yorickpeterse rbx is still chugging along then? we dont really hear much about it these days. Is brixen still active?
<yorickpeterse> It's very much active
<yorickpeterse> But considering we only have brixen on it full-time things don't go as fast as one might've hoped for
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<banisterfiend> yorickpeterse he found someone else to sponsor him?
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<yorickpeterse> Yeah he works for "Enova" or something
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<yorickpeterse> Most of my work is more behind-the-scenes stuff
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<[gnubie]> yorickpeterse: http://invisible-island.net/dialog/
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<[gnubie]> anyone into tui development here using ruby?
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<yorickpeterse> [gnubie]: I have no idea what any of that is, you'll want to rephrase your question better
<yorickpeterse> If you're looking for console GUIs you probably want to look at curses/ncurses
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<[gnubie]> yes, i’m looking for console guis for ruby
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<zwischenzup2> hey...i'm trying to prepend a hex byte to a string
<zwischenzup2> this works: ["80" + "test string".unpack("H*")].pack("H*")
<zwischenzup2> but was wondering if there was a better way
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<apeiros> zwischenzup2: there's no such thing as a "hex byte" a byte is a byte.
<apeiros> >> "\x80" + "string"
<eval-in__> apeiros => "\x80string" (https://eval.in/172625)
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<apeiros> you may want to mark it as binary ("\x80".b + string). depends on what you do though.
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<zwischenzup2> yea.....was giving me ascii/utf8 compatibility errors if i didn't put the "\x80".b
<zwischenzup2> thanks apeiros
<DefV> I get a headache when encoding issues come up
<DefV> also
<DefV> turns out you're all a bunch of newbie-hating assholes when I'm not looking
<DefV> shame on you all
<yorickpeterse> hm?
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<zwischenzup2> any idea why this fails?: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/52b2acaf4a2a02d8df72
<yorickpeterse> The "800 people thing" is a fallacy
<DefV> some of the chat is missing too: https://twitter.com/geekoncoffee/status/489038957305266176
<yorickpeterse> If the newbie channel gets popular it will have the same problem
<DefV> yorickpeterse: I made that point
<yorickpeterse> A dedicated channel however isn't as bad as it may sound
<yorickpeterse> While I wouldn't call this channel unwelcoming in any way, it depends on who you're talking to
<yorickpeterse> Honestly I don't think it's a bad idea
<maloik> maybe if the first thing they see is yorickpeterse going off at mongo... :-)
<yorickpeterse> that only happens once a week
<maloik> :D
<yorickpeterse> Plus the sooner one gets familiar with the odd behaviour of devs the better
<yorickpeterse> They'll be stuck with it for a few decades anyway
<DefV> freenode already has 1 irc channel too many
<DefV> 1 ruby irc hannel
<yorickpeterse> I was about to ask if that was #node
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<DefV> yes
<zwischenzup2> i'm a newbie and everyone i've ever encountered here has been very polite and helpful
<yorickpeterse> zwischenzup2: You're dealing with encodings, we can feel the pain :P
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<maloik> next up: timezones
<yorickpeterse> Either way, I think a separate channel for newbies isn't a very bad idea
<yorickpeterse> It's a pretty specific target group
<maloik> it's not a bad idea per se but it's hard to get right
<yorickpeterse> (these would probably be the people that don't know what a method is)
<maloik> and as DefV said there's no point at which you'll "graduate"
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<maloik> are you going to be sent out for asking too advanced questions? pointed around to different channels if your level doesn't match the channel's etc?
<maloik> telling people to just go ahead and ask, and asking people to mind their tone when they're unwelcoming (in a friendly way) would go a long way
<yorickpeterse> I think that once you understand the concept of sarcasm you're ready for #ruby-lang
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<yorickpeterse> which means whitequark probably isn't allowed in here
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<maloik> you're so unwelcoming :(
<yorickpeterse> bite me
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<yorickpeterse> Come to think of it, some sort of wiki might not be a bad idea
<yorickpeterse> e.g. for the /r/amsterdam subreddit we get so many people askign the same stuff that we have a wonderful wiki
<yorickpeterse> up to the point where "HAVE YOU READ THE WIKI????" is becoming a bit of a running gag
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<maloik> :-)
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<apeiros> DefV: that's not true. we're not noobie hating. we only hate you :o)
<DefV> I'm not a ... you troll
<apeiros> :D
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<apeiros> DefV: not sure… what do you consider rude in that scrollback you pasted?
<DefV> nothing
<apeiros> ok, then I'm confused :D
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<[gnubie]> is rdialog good to use?
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<zwischenzup2> trying to convert string to a bignum
<zwischenzup2> this works: "abc".to_hex.to_i(16)
<zwischenzup2> i should mention that to_hex returns "abc".unpack("H*")
<zwischenzup2> wondering if there was a way to do this without first converting to hex
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<yorickpeterse> zwischenzup2: does said string contain numerics only?
<zwischenzup2> no
<zwischenzup2> is actually a sha256 digest.....
<yorickpeterse> Why are you trying to convert that to a Bignum?
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<zwischenzup2> so that i can do base58 encoding
<zwischenzup2> (playing around with some bitcoin stuff)
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<yorickpeterse> hmm
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<yorickpeterse> You can go from string to Bignum, but I can't think on doing it the other way around from the top of my head
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<zwischenzup2> how do you go from string to bignum?
<yorickpeterse> Well, your method is one way, but I doubt if it's "accurate"
<yorickpeterse> That is, I have my doubts about being able to get a proper Bignum from the string "abc123"
<yorickpeterse> >> "abc123".unpack('H*')
<eval-in__> yorickpeterse => ["616263313233"] (https://eval.in/172636)
<yorickpeterse> >> "abc123".unpack('H*').first.to_i(16)
<eval-in__> yorickpeterse => 107075198857779 (https://eval.in/172638)
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<yorickpeterse> >> [107075198857779.to_s(16)].pack('H*')
<eval-in__> yorickpeterse => "abc123" (https://eval.in/172642)
<yorickpeterse> I guess that sorta works
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<zwischenzup2> it does what i want, i just don't think it's very elegant
<zwischenzup2> i guess it's the only way though
<zwischenzup2> i tried to_i with different bases, but not really working
<zwischenzup2> i think it depends on the underlying encoding of the string
<yorickpeterse> https://github.com/dougal/base58 heh, this might be useful
<yorickpeterse> No
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<yorickpeterse> The encoding has nothing to do with it
<yorickpeterse> At least not that I can think of
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<gpg_> hello guys
<gpg_> need some help with decryption encryption using open ssl
<gpg_> any help appreciated
<gpg_> !!
<zwischenzup2> yorickpeterse, thanks for the help.....but yea, that gem requires an int already
<yorickpeterse> gpg_: you probably don't want to paste encryption/descryption keys into StackOverflow
<yorickpeterse> gpg_: also, you're doing things backwards
<yorickpeterse> gpg_: you are encrypting base64 data, not base64'ing encrypted data
<yorickpeterse> In the first example you do decrypt(base64(DATA))
<yorickpeterse> in the second you do encrypt(base64(DATA))
<yorickpeterse> opposed to base64(encrypt(DATA))
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<RonP> Hello, can any help me with the differences of the various version of ruby?
<pipework> There's a lot. Can you ask a more specific question?
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<RonP> thanks. I'm on 1.8.7 and I saw the EOL notice. So I need to start using a more modern version
<RonP> Is that a resource you could point me to that spells out the differences/quirks of each version?
<yxhuvud> ronp: the differences are fairly large between 1.8 and 1.9, but the differences to 2.x from that is pretty small.
<RonP> ok that's at least encouraging.
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<Cages> Hi all.
<centrx> RonP, There is an overview with each release notes, e.g. https://www.ruby-lang.org/en/news/2013/12/25/ruby-2-1-0-is-released/
<RonP> So a 1.8.7 -> 1.9 move will be about the same about of change as 1.8 to 2.x
<centrx> RonP, They are new features in 2.x you may wish to use, but 2.x is very backwards-compatible, whereas 1.9 is not
<yxhuvud> ronp: yes. note though that if you are upgrading a rails installation, then the rails version change will probably involve greater changes.
<centrx> *There are
<RonP> no rails yet. so it sounds like a move directly 2.x is in order.
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<Cages> Any mac users experienced in irb?
<RonP> I'm assuming 2.1 would be the goto version?
<yxhuvud> yes.
<RonP> you guys have been helpful and I appreciate it
<yxhuvud> one major area where you might run into issues are string encodings which has become less simple (but more powerful)
<RonP> i was reading about how .to_s needs to become .join
<RonP> "needs"
<Cages> New to Ruby, trying to reset my default irb prompt in the terminal. Something went wrong.
<centrx> RonP, Sure, yes
<RonP> thanks
<centrx> for Array that is
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<Cages> What I see when I open terminal (still no inf-ruby prompt in irb): https://gist.github.com/anonymous/4d576bdfa26798baac03
<Cages> Anyone know of a way to fix this and get the inf-ruby prompt to default?
<centrx> What is inf-ruby?
<Cages> Right now my default prompt is the simple prompt which is just >>. I want the inf-ruby prompt as a default which is irb(main):001:0>
<Mon_Ouie> Emacs package to send Ruby code to a Ruby process
<Mon_Ouie> Unless he's talking about something else…
<Cages> tried that, apparently that either didn't work or i messed up because my alias did not work and the bash file is messing with my mac terminal for no apparent reason
<Mon_Ouie> You didn't show what command you were running though
<centrx> Did you look at irb --help
<Cages> What command?
<Cages> centrx: Yes
<centrx> --inf-ruby-mode Use prompt appropriate for inf-ruby-mode on emacs.
<centrx> --prompt prompt-mode/--prompt-mode prompt-mode
<Cages> well, two goals atm: first is to rid my terminal of saying https://gist.github.com/anonymous/4d576bdfa26798baac03 every time i open it
<Cages> second is to get inf-ruby prompt as my default
<RonP> oh! another question. ruby 2.1 will "marry" with rails 4.1 ?
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<centrx> Is that the technical term?
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<whitequark> RonP: yes
<RonP> thanks
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<Cages> does anyone know of a possible solution? I am new to programming. Just trying to get things set up.
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<centrx> Cages, Those bash error messages, are they aliases in your .bashrc?
<Cages> Yes
<Cages> i believe so
<Cages> i was going off of a tutorial, did not really understand it
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<centrx> Cages, Okay, so remove those lines from your .bashrc, that will clear that error message
<centrx> Cages, Then see if those two command-line options work with the irb command
<centrx> Cages, if they do, you can add the command with the right argument to your .bashrc, so you will be able to just type "irb" without the --argument
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<Cages> okay i will try one second
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<Cages> deleted from bashrc
<Cages> i still get two of the four lines
<Cages> so i think they must be on another file as well
<Cages> hmm
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<centrx> Cages, Possibly .profile
<centrx> Or /etc/bashrc or /etc/profile
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<Cages> ty
<RonP> cages you may need to relog?
<Cages> RonP: what is that?
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<RonP> to start the shell over again without the profile/rc items you removed
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<Cages> just restarting the terminal?
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<RonP> right logout then login again.. or re-ssh to the box etc. it's worth a shot
<Cages> Already tried. Lines still there.
<Cages> -bash: alias: —prompt: not found
<Cages> -bash: alias: inf-ruby’: not found
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