apeiros_ changed the topic of #ruby-lang to: Ruby 2.1.2; 2.0.0-p481; 1.9.3-p545: http://ruby-lang.org || Paste >3 lines of text on http://gist.github.com
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<yorickpeterse> morning
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<maloik> waddup
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<yorickpeterse> So I messed around with Atom a bit last night
<yorickpeterse> The UI looks neat but besides that there honestly wasn't that much to it
<yorickpeterse> e.g. I don't like the heavily Sublime inspired behaviour/key bindings
<yorickpeterse> Such as clicking a file only for it to open in a new tab
<surrounder> and the google analytics intergration, which is weird
<maloik> why is it weird?
<yorickpeterse> surrounder: I think you can disable that
<surrounder> yorickpeterse: ah, that's good then
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<yorickpeterse> I dunno, I compiled from source so I have no idea if it was even in
<surrounder> maloik: well, I don't get why a editor should send anything to google really
<yorickpeterse> I hope Neovim does well and actually gets a decent GUI
<surrounder> toyed around with lighttable the other day, seems interesting too
<maloik> I'm pretty sure it's their way of deciding what features to build, which might have to be removed (as they're unused) etc
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<maloik> I haven't looked at neovim in a while but it looked kinda promising
<maloik> then again I thought the same of the vim plugin thing in sublime 3
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<yorickpeterse> The key bindings are only half of what makes Vim neat
<yorickpeterse> That and most stuff out there implements *Vi* bindings, not Vim
<yorickpeterse> So stuff like ciw doesn't work
<yorickpeterse> That and I've yet to find another editor that doesn't get in my way UI wise
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<yorickpeterse> it's pretty hard to beat just a window border: http://downloads.yorickpeterse.com/images/screenshot_030714_10%3a52%3a56.png
<maloik> to be fair, atom/sublime don't add much more than that do they
<surrounder> yorickpeterse: I like the font, which is it ?
<yorickpeterse> Dina
<yorickpeterse> It's a bitmap font though :/
<surrounder> thanks for the link
<yorickpeterse> it looks best at 8/10pt
<yorickpeterse> (I have it set to 8)
<yorickpeterse> That code is of a Sinatra app btw in case anybody was wondering
<yorickpeterse> and I don't like Mongo aggregations :<
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<wnd> 7x13 is perfectly fine programming font afaic
<yorickpeterse> 7x13?
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<wnd> good old X11 bitmap font
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<yorickpeterse> Ah
<apeiros> from the name it's probably monospace, 7px * 13px?
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<wnd> it is
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<matti> yorickpeterse: Watchin'
<matti> yorickpeterse: :)
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<ddv> atom is slow
<ddv> even with that new react thing
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<marjinal1st> How can I create a URL safe token with fixed length in Ruby?
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<jhass> marjinal1st: SecureRandom.hex is one possibility
<marjinal1st> jhass: How can I pass length to SecureRandom?
<jhass> just do it
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<marjinal1st> I meant the which method and found on that page, thanks :)
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<Who> hey folks
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<dacamp> I maybe opening a can of worms, but why does FalseClass/TrueClass/NilClass raise an exception if you try to initialize a new instance of that (singleton) class?
<jhass> >> TrueClass.new
<eval-in_> jhass => undefined method `new' for TrueClass:Class (NoMethodError) ... (https://eval.in/169239)
<jhass> that one?
<whitequark> dacamp: well, because it's a singleton? :)
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<whitequark> if you could invoke #new, it would stop being a singleton.
<yxhuvud> not if it returned the singleton.
<whitequark> (and in case of true/false/nil, it would break a lot of invariants inside the implementation)
<yxhuvud> still quite pointless though
<whitequark> yxhuvud: that's not what #new does.
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<whitequark> #new returns a new instance, not an existing one.
<jhass> one could argue they should have an #instance
<Who> hey, I have a question
<jhass> but then, why'd you need it
<whitequark> ... how about `true`
<Who> MRI in case it detects a deadlock will raise an exception right?
<Who> so its not possible to have a deadlock in MRI?
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<Who> where the process is hung and can’t respond to SIG TERM?
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<jhass> Who: MRI detects when all threads are in the blocking state and raises an exception if none of these are caused by IO
<jhass> that does by far not prevent all cases of a deadlock
<jhass> and there are also things like livelocks
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<Who> hmm so if a process is stuck (no logs are printed) but when you send a signal to it and it responds to it, does it mean it was stuck on IO?
<jhass> no
<jhass> might be possible but you can't tell by that
<dacamp> whitequark: shit I guess I need to better understand wtf a singleton class is then. I guess I was under the assumption you still had to initialize the (first and only) instance. Thanks
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<whitequark> dacamp: TrueClass and friends are special
<whitequark> they're initialized by the runtime for you, and runtime doesn't need #new to exist at all
<Who> what’s the best way to debug such cases? I have put a method to print backtrace of all on signal trap
<Who> is there anything else I can do to help me catch it?
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<dacamp> whitequark: yeah I guess "doesn't need, therfore doesn't have" didn't seem very ruby to me... "doesn't need until it does" seemed more the ruby way.
<jhass> Who: you probably could also dump the thread states. And profiling your code might give an indication where it's stuck. It's hard to give general tips for such cases though
<whitequark> dacamp: let me elaborate. with TrueClass, the behavior you would get if you *had* #new would be extremely odd
<whitequark> because they're special-cased inside the runtime
<whitequark> it would basically break everything
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<jhass> Who: if it's not a too complex problem, trying to build a minimal reproducing example can fulfill wonders. At least you then would have something to show
<Who> jhass: that’s the problem, it only happens on production when it’s interacting with one of our message queues and DB. Also it happens at pure random, after a week or 2-3 days etc
<Who> I have been trying to use gdb in such cases but it segfaults in most such cases
<whitequark> sounds like a lack of sound design... but yes, I would do trap(:QUIT)
<whitequark> and list the threads inside
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<whitequark> like java does
<dacamp> whitequark: not sure if you'd even know, but why even make it a class then?
<whitequark> dacamp: as opposed to having an Object instance with some singleton methods, you mean?
<whitequark> that's actually a good question. I think it was a very early design choice that has been carried forward.
<yxhuvud> because even more things would break if it didn't have a class
<whitequark> I'm fairly sure Ruby had regular classes before singleton classes...
<whitequark> yxhuvud: disagree
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<Who> whitequark: this is what I used in SIG TERM http://pastebin.com/rkBPrteH
<whitequark> there wouldn't really be any difference except lack of is_a?(TrueClass) and so on
<whitequark> which doesn't matter
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<jhass> yxhuvud: plenty of things don't. For example toplevel self and ARGF
<whitequark> Who: yeah I'd use something like that
<yxhuvud> jhass: generally speaking, those are not passed around the way booleans are.
<yxhuvud> which make them less prone to inducing breakage
<jhass> yxhuvud: what about ENV?
<Who> jhass: thanks about the deadlock info, however about the 2nd occurence I said when signal term was heard by the main thread and it was responding to it. What other reason could be there? just few ideas might help me out here
<dacamp> whitequark: exactly what i mean. and is_a? support wouldn't really be necessary if true/false/nil were thought of more along the lines of self rather than seperate classes
<dacamp> anyways, thanks!
<apeiros> dacamp: another take at it: true/false/nil are immediates
<apeiros> that is, their value is encoded directly in the VALUE
<yxhuvud> jhass: still not passed around a lot.
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<apeiros> allowing more instances would probably make it rather complex
<whitequark> apeiros: that's what i just said -_-
<apeiros> whitequark: ok. didn't read the full backlog :)
<jhass> Who: does maybe the cpu go up?
<Who> in the 2nd scenario, no it doesn’t the process is actually sleeping
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<jhass> sleeping or blocking?
<Who> I remember seeing S+ while doing ps aux
<jhass> as said, I'd really try to dump the thread states
<jhass> oh well, looks like Thread#status doesn't differentiate between blocked/sleeping/waiting
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<Who> jhass: what I don’t get is, the main thread which job is to fetch few things from the DB and then pass it to threadpool (https://github.com/meh/ruby-thread) to send those messages (it’s a loop + sleep of 2 seconds) and there are muliple logs around it as well
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<karamazov> I've got a 2d square create with some arrays within an array. Is there an efficient way to empty one of the internal arrays? I figure I could just pop n number of times but that doesn't seem eloquent
<karamazov> *created
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<jhass> just assign an empty array to that row?
<jhass> field[2] = []
<karamazov> Ha wow. I was over complicating that.
<karamazov> Thanks jhass
<jhass> actually there's #clear
<jhass> field[2].clear
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<karamazov> Clear is perfect - don't know how I missed that one in the docs
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<TomFreudenberg> Problem with TCPServer connecting from remote client
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<drbrain> TomFreudenberg: are you sure its not IPv4 vs IPv6 timeout?
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<TomFreudenberg> Hmm no, I am not
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<drbrain> TomFreudenberg: here's what my telnet says:
<drbrain> but it is fast, no delays
<TomFreudenberg> great!
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<TomFreudenberg> I just tested telnet -4 my-host 3333
<TomFreudenberg> fast response as expected
<TomFreudenberg> do you have an idea what best to do?
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<TomFreudenberg> TCPServer will create IPv4 Service
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<TomFreudenberg> or is it also IPv6 Service?
<TomFreudenberg> As I know, only IPv4
<drbrain> I think IPv4 by default
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<TomFreudenberg> Thanks for help and pointing me to the right problem
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<darix> moin drbrain
<darix> drbrain: got a minute?
<drbrain> TomFreudenberg: you may want to look at Socket.tcp_server_sockets and Socket.tcp_server_loop
<drbrain> darix: sure
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<ruby-lang308> hey, quick question
<ruby-lang308> anyone get whats wrong with that code
<ruby-lang308> "NoMethodError: undefined method 'map' for nil:NilClass" -- trying to CamelCase-ify my strings
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<drbrain> >> "foo".split "-"
<eval-in_> drbrain => ["foo"] (https://eval.in/169271)
<drbrain> ruby-lang308: ↑
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<bougyman> looking for a more straightforward way to do Pathname("/path/to/deeply/nested/dir").enum_for(:descend).reject(&:root?).map(&:to_s)
<drbrain> bougyman: Pathname("/path/to/deeply/nested/dir").enum_for(:descend).drop(1).map(&:to_s) ??
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<drbrain> the root is always going to be first, so now you only traverse the descendants once
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<drbrain> its too bad #descend doesn't return an Enumerator
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<darix> drbrain: that line is neat
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<whyshouldthefire> Hey all -- I'm trying to write a multi-line regex that grabs all lines from this gist starting with Seat 1 and ending with the last line before the line that starts *** HOLE CARDS *** : https://gist.github.com/robcole/811948c7300bbdaaabd3
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<whyshouldthefire> I tried match(/(Seat.*[^*])/m) but that seems to grab the first *** but not the second... I just want to end on the last \n line before *** starts
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<whyshouldthefire> same with match(/(Seat.*)\*\*\*/m) ... feel like I'm doing something dumb here, but struggling with this bit
<TomFreudenberg1> drbrain: got all stuff run ;-) thanks
<TomFreudenberg1> I posted the correct answer and extended example to
<drbrain> TomFreudenberg1: yay!
<whitequark> whyshouldthefire: I'm not sure I understand your question, but, maybe this helps: you can use .*? instead of .*
<whitequark> .* is "greedy", it matches as much text as possible. .*? is non-greedy, it matches only until the rest of expression will match
<whyshouldthefire> whitequark: perfect, thanks.
<whyshouldthefire> sad thing is that I read that statement on rubular multiple times over, but couldn't get syntax working with ? properly.
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