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<zenspider> zzak: because that's what we need... more syntax.
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<zenspider> fuck me
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<zenspider> matti: I accept your patch. happy birthday
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<matti> Haha
<matti> zenspider: :)
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<matti> It got stuck at FileUtils.
<matti> Which does not seem to have a maintainer now.
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<matti> I guess, patches won't apply cleanly after 8 months anyway.
<matti> zenspider: Thanks for the birthday wishes :) Really kind ;]
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<henrikhodne> I seem to remember there being a shortcut for `-> (x) { obj.foo(x) }` (or `-> (x) { x.foo(obj) }`). I know of &:foo, but isn't there another similar thing too?
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<matti> henrikhodne: Not sure in this case.
<whitequark> henrikhodne: no
<whitequark> well, &obj.method(:foo)
<whitequark> but that's hardly shorter/easier to read
<henrikhodne> Yeah, I must've thought of something else then.
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<yorickpeterse> morning
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<erikh> hi
<matti> Hey yorickpeterse
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<matti> erikh: Hi
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<ljarvis> hi
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<erikh> hi
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<maloik> Trying out Thor on a gem with a working command line component, but when adding a new script it seems it doesn't get found: https://gist.github.com/hannesfostie/d4adbd8665ad8665198b
<maloik> any ideas ?
<maloik> not getting any errors on rake install or anything
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<charliesome> hey everyone, is it possible to have a development dependency in a gemspec that is only for a specific ruby?
<charliesome> eg. I want to depend on some gem only on MRI
<soahccc> charliesome: I guess these guys doing it right: https://github.com/rails/rails/blob/master/Gemfile
<charliesome> ah yeah, that's in the gemfile though
<charliesome> actually i suppose I'll just do that
<charliesome> screw rubygems development dependencies
<soahccc> ohh sorry overlooked that
<soahccc> but this should be also possible
<charliesome> i think i'll just rip my gemspec dev deps out into the Gemfile
<soahccc> Hmm I did that some times, maybe for the same reason
<yorickpeterse> charliesome: no
<charliesome> yorickpeterse: no in reply to what?
<yorickpeterse> You can use if/else and what not like any normal Ruby code, but I don't think that works for anything but building the Gem
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<yorickpeterse> (gemspec)
<judofyr> charliesome: +1. Gemfile is much better than gemspec development dependency
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<yorickpeterse> https://github.com/YorickPeterse/ruby-lint/blob/master/Gemfile I just put it in the Gemfile
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<andrewvos> morning everyone
<yorickpeterse> get_and_parse_json_from_url(user_profile_path)["d"].first
<yorickpeterse> who the fuck names the hash keys "d"
<charliesome> yorickpeterse: mongodb people
<yorickpeterse> No no
<yorickpeterse> we just name them "r" and "v"
<yorickpeterse> (I'm not kidding)
<charliesome> because there's no key deduplication? :p
<yorickpeterse> luckily that's only in one field collection
<yorickpeterse> it saves space apparently
<charliesome> yeah, lol
<yorickpeterse> I wonder how much in this case, lets see
<charliesome> they should write mongo in ruby, use symbols, and be more efficient
<andrewvos> yorickpeterse wants the "d"
<yorickpeterse> Saves us 300MB
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<yorickpeterse> which for a 100GB DB is not really worth it being annoying
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<andrewvos> Pretty scared of mongo lately after people started posting the code on twitter
<yorickpeterse> it's shit
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<soahccc> andrewvos: which code? o.O
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<yorickpeterse> whispers are being spread around here that we're tempted to move back to Ye Olde SQL
<yorickpeterse> since we now actually have a pretty decent structure of our data
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<andrewvos> yorickpeterse: Ye Olde SQL? You mean MySql or Postgres?
<andrewvos> soahccc: hang on...
<yorickpeterse> Yes
<yorickpeterse> MySQL probably since RDS doesn't do Mongo
<yorickpeterse> errr Postgres
<yorickpeterse> lol
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<andrewvos> soahccc: That's the line people spread around the most
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<yorickpeterse> I think the biggest Mongo lol of this year was when we removed and then re-added 2 mil records
<yorickpeterse> Completely fucked up all indexes of the entire DB
<yorickpeterse> I even made a funny picture for it
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<andrewvos> yorickpeterse: Masochist
<andrewvos> What does the light blue icon represent yorickpeterse?
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<yorickpeterse> That's our company logo
<andrewvos> yorickpeterse: Who do you work for?
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<yorickpeterse> http://olery.com/
<andrewvos> orly
<yorickpeterse> yarly
<andrewvos> Wow cool looking site
<yorickpeterse> (I see what you did there)
<yorickpeterse> The site is pretty slow btw, lol wordpress
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<andrewvos> What I really meant was the product looks cool
<andrewvos> The site is perhaps a bit too busy
<yorickpeterse> it's being redone in the future I believe
<yorickpeterse> Which reminds me, we still need to set up our tech blag
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<andrewvos> Tech blogs: I always find myself thinking "who is this company" and then I try to click around but they never have a link to their homepage in the header
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<banisterfiend> l
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<yorickpeterse> andrewvos: it wouldn't really be focused on who we are
<yorickpeterse> but more on noteworthy things we'd do
<yorickpeterse> e.g. wrapping Java/Python/Perl in Ruby!@
* yorickpeterse runs
<andrewvos> you better run boyy
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<andrewvos> To be honest I wrapped python in go the other day
<andrewvos> I don't see a problem
<yorickpeterse> we ship it
<yorickpeterse> in gems
<yorickpeterse> yolo
<maloik> why do you have to do that ?
<yorickpeterse> I actually wrote an entire Gem to make that build process easier, should be open sauce at some point
<maloik> honest question, I simply don't know
<yorickpeterse> maloik: makes installation easier
<yorickpeterse> "gem install foobar" versus" 1. Find your package manager, if you have any 2. Install whatever you need 3. sudo pip lolwtfpython 4. gem install foobar"
<andrewvos> yorickpeterse: I wrapped pygments in go
<andrewvos> yorickpeterse: No other way to do it really
<andrewvos> I'm not having my code do a fucking `pip install` on production :/
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<yorickpeterse> yeah
<yorickpeterse> exactly
<yorickpeterse> plus fucking pip doesn't do user installs properly
<andrewvos> And I'm not rewriting pygments in go hahahahaahah
<andrewvos> hahaah
<andrewvos> HAHA
<yorickpeterse> BECAUSE GOD FORBID DEVIATING FROM THE PATH OF THE GUIDO
<Nilium> .. He totally is.
<andrewvos> Nilium: HOW DO YOU KNOW ARE YOU WATCHING ME
* Nilium scampers out of the tree and hides.
<andrewvos> Ok I did think about it. I'll put that out there.
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<Nilium> I wonder what it'd be like to reimplement Lua in Go.
<yorickpeterse> it would be slow
<yorickpeterse> well, slower
<Nilium> Maybe.
<Nilium> Well, almost definitely.
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<Nilium> The folks working on Lua have kind of done everything they could to squeeze every last drop out of the interpreter.
<Nilium> Interpreter/VM.
<andrewvos> Reimplement lua in lua
<yorickpeterse> already done
<Nilium> I think that's been done
<Nilium> Could implement Lua in Ruby and watch both grind to a halt simultaneously.
<yorickpeterse> not if you write it in C for speed
<Nilium> >_>
<yorickpeterse> oh wait
<Nilium> Oddly enough, it's probably pretty simple to write Lua bindings for Ruby.
<Nilium> Why you'd ever do that, though, is beyond me
<heftig> write it in Rust
<Nilium> I want to like Rust but it doesn't want to like me.
<ljarvis> maloik: you installed it?
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<maloik> installed what ?
<ljarvis> the gem
<ljarvis> gem build foo.gemspec; gem install foo-1.x.gem
<maloik> if you're referring to the gist I pasted, figured it out
<ljarvis> ok!
<maloik> thanks :-)
<yorickpeterse> oi quick dumb question, the "mean" is the average right?
<yorickpeterse> (of a set of numbers)
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<yorickpeterse> yeah seems so, derp
<maloik> letters starting to dance before my eyes
<maloik> might have to head home if this keeps up
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<yorickpeterse> or drink less booze at the job
<maloik> havent had anything to drink since saturday :(
<maloik> maybe I need to drink more booze...
<ljarvis> im going to a wedding
<ljarvis> sigh
<ljarvis> like.. now, actually. See ya
<yorickpeterse> don't punch the groom
<ljarvis> or bang the wife, amirite
<maloik> o/
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<yorickpeterse> ljarvis: wat
<Nilium> It's better not to ask so you're not targeted later
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<yorickpeterse> bah, benchmarking concurrency is tricky business
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<maloik> ugh dying, is it winter yet ?
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<gnufied> england?
<maloik> belgium
<gnufied> well Mr. Poirot. I am from India. deal with it.
<gnufied> :-)
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<yorickpeterse> tarehdgni
<yorickpeterse> Tempted to create a gem called thread-ploo
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<maloik> gnufied: respect, I wouldn't be able to handle the heat I think
<maloik> although on the other hand, you're probably used to it right? this weather is an extreme for us
<gnufied> is it especially hot this year in Europe?
<maloik> you might suffer the same way in 15 degree weather (unless I'm really misjudging the climate in India)
<gnufied> I hear lot of folks complaining
<maloik> dunno about 'this year' but today and yesterday are really hot, and last 2 weeks as well
<gnufied> 15ºC cold? nah - that is fine.
<gnufied> I would defentiely run like hell on −15 ºC though
<gnufied> definitely*
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<gnufied> yorickpeterse: what will the gem do?
<yorickpeterse> randomly bre
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<yorickpeterse> * break
<yorickpeterse> (no pun intended there)
<yorickpeterse> also lololol MRI and thread pools
<gnufied> that sounds awfully like reinventing the wheel
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<gnufied> there is rails, bundler.
<yorickpeterse> two soon
<gnufied> well, if you are bitten by NIH, go for it.
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<yorickpeterse> well then, it appears that my thread ploo is doing quite well in production
<yorickpeterse> even on MRI there's a 2x performance boost
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<maloik> yorickpeterse: what does it do ?
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<yorickpeterse> lots of waiting for IO
<yorickpeterse> pulls data from an API, does some magic, then shoves it in a DB
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<darix> you could be cool and use fibers or eventmachine in that case.
<yorickpeterse> haha, EM
<yorickpeterse> I'd rather have legos for breakfast
<maloik> i'd still rather eat them than step on them barefooted though
<yorickpeterse> I prefer a wound in my foot than internal bleedings
<yorickpeterse> you can't really begin/rescue the latter as well
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<whitequark> EM is OK but don't, ever, touch fibers.
<whitequark> was burned by them really badly, debugged it for like two weeks, just gave up at the end.
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<ericwood> fibers usually don't get hot enough to burn you
<whitequark> I've to this day have no idea why it broke, or how to fix it.
<whitequark> well, EM::Synchrony.
<ericwood> you must be using them wrong
<whitequark> specifically.
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* ericwood loves EM but has no reason to use it for anything he does
* lianj finds enough reason
<ericwood> a friend of mine wrote a really intense IRC bot using EM
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<ericwood> it scales quite well
<ericwood> ...for an IRC bot >.<
<lianj> its just a nice socket api and things like open_keyboard, connect_unix_domain, etc all wrapped in the same api is very nice
<whitequark> it's not exactly nice without fibers
<whitequark> or monads :]
<whitequark> in other words, without some way to avoid callback hell
<whitequark> like, it's just a fancy epoll wrapper otherwise.
<whitequark> but synchrony doesn't work so fuck it
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<lianj> there is nothing bad about callbacks
<tubbo> does anyone know what's up with http://gems.rubyforge.org?
<tubbo> RubyGems is throwing errors saying it's not a valid source anymore..
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<tubbo> lianj: well that's an issue i've been trying to solve actually. i'm doing this installation through Chef and for some reason, i can't get https://rubygems.org to be added as a source
<tubbo> i've tried execute "gem source -r http://gems.rubyforge.. && gem source -a https://rubygems.org && gem install rubygems-update -v=1.3.6"
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<whitequark> lianj: unreadable code
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<whitequark> look at nodejs folks. even they decided on it a looong time ago.
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<ericwood> we don't talk about those people
<tubbo> i have serious doubts :P
<jroes> is it idiomatic ruby to instantiate a class given an argument that may be of a varying type? for example, something that may accept a JSON string or a Hash, but might convert it from JSON to a Hash before storing it in an instance variable?
<tubbo> the bad part about callbacks is people using them improperly
<tubbo> or too much
<tubbo> but you don't have to use them
<whitequark> with EM, you have to.
<jroes> and if it is idiomatic, can anyone point me to a good example of the right way to do the type inspection?
<whitequark> jroes: #is_a? and duck typing.
<jroes> gotcha, so an #is_a? switch
<whitequark> in this case, probably that
<tubbo> yeah that might be helpful
<yorickpeterse> whitequark: meh, reactor loops are no use when the action you're performing is inheritly blocking
<yorickpeterse> unless you like callback-spaghetti
<jroes> cool cool, just confirming. thanks
<tubbo> or perhaps @options = JSON.parse(options) rescue options
<tubbo> :D
<banisterfiend> whitequark: with a decent promises implementation, async event look code isn't actually that bad
<lianj> yorickpeterse: there are pattern how to avoid that
<tubbo> if you like to live dangerously
<banisterfiend> event loop*
<yorickpeterse> lianj: callback hell, yes
<jroes> haha
<whitequark> banisterfiend: that is one way to untangle it, yes
<banisterfiend> though EM::Deferrable is a joke
<yorickpeterse> but I'd rather have concurrency instead of just an event loop
<tubbo> one thing about is_a? that i question
<whitequark> yorickpeterse: wat
<tubbo> is that what happens if i pass in an AS::HashWithIndifferentAccess?
<tubbo> do you still treat it as a Hash?
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<whitequark> callbacks *are* a concurrency mechanism
<yorickpeterse> whitequark: in the classic sense event loops aren't multi-threaded per se
<yorickpeterse> (note that in this code right here we have both)
<whitequark> they are not in any sense
<jroes> yeah, slightly disappointing, which I'm sure is the reason behind recommending better use of duck typing instead
<yorickpeterse> tl;dr I don't like the EM API and callback hell
<yorickpeterse> brb, more beer
<tubbo> i do not like EM either tbh
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<banisterfiend> there's no reason you couldn't write something like this for EM http://taskjs.org/
<banisterfiend> though you'd have to design your whole api around promises
<tubbo> there are better ecosystems out there if you want to program like that imho...Go, NodeJS, etc.
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<whitequark> banisterfiend: yes, it is written and it is called EM::Synchrony
<whitequark> and it is a horrendous pile of shit which makes debugging impossible
<lianj> so what do you guys use?
<whitequark> threads ?
<lianj> celluloid-io?
<whitequark> that works too
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<banisterfiend> i just use EM with my own promises implementation
<whitequark> the problem with synchrony is how it monkey-patches mysql, redis, etc adapters to make them fiber-aware
<whitequark> that doesn't work
<whitequark> ... somehow
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<gnufied> the stack size is really a BIG problem with fibers IMO
<gnufied> For example, how do we know that this method that we are calling in fiber will run out of stack space?
<gnufied> and when
<gnufied> it will simply throw Stack level too deep
<whitequark> you don't know that at any other time
<lianj> same for non fibers, no? just that its larger
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<gnufied> In a way yes. but 4kb
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<banisterfiend> gnufied: have you messed with concurrency in haskell?
<banisterfiend> i just bought the book: http://chimera.labs.oreilly.com/books/1230000000929
<banisterfiend> it's written by the dude who actually implemented most of that infrastructure in haskell, it's pretty incredible
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<gnufied> banisterfiend: looks incredible. for many years my go to book have been java concurrency in practice though.
<gnufied> whitequark: only in Ruby 2.0 they have changed the stack size to larger size and made it configurable
<banisterfiend> gnufied: are those configuration settings part of the 2.0 spec or just an MRI only thing?
<gnufied> I actually *have* run into stack level deep errors in trivial code when using 1.9
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<gnufied> banisterfiend: I don't know for a certainity. but I doubt that they would be part of 2.0 spec. JRuby fibers are basically threads underneath.
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<whitequark> you can change stack size in java
<gnufied> Yep.
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<Sammidysam> I have a certain number of arguments that varies that I'd like to put into a Time.new, is there a way to put an array of arguments into Time.new?
<whitequark> Time.new(*args)
<Sammidysam> whitequark: Thank you very much. I was just missing an asterisk.
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<Sammidysam> whitequark: When I give Time.new a list of length greater than 3 it complains about too many arguments. Shouldn't it take up to six?
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<Sammidysam> whitequark: Oh, my problem was that I gave it the hour 50.
<Sammidysam> No actual problem there.
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<yorickpeterse> andrewvos: http://andrewvos.com/2013/08/02/hacker-news-in-the-terminal/ y u no gem this
<yorickpeterse> oh, you can't actually click links and such
<ericwood> y u read hacker news
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<andrewvos> yorickpeterse: Huh, CMD+CLICK biotch
<ericwood> booyah!
<ericwood> iTerm2 ftw
<andrewvos> yorickpeterse: And I'm too lazy to add all the files I need to gem itup
<andrewvos> gem it up*
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<banister> sepp2k: yo
<banister> apparently snoop dogg wants everyone to learn programming http://www.code.org/
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<ericwood> his name is Snoop Lion thankyouverymuch
<banister> they're two alternative alter-egos aren't they?
<banister> or has he completely killed of snoop dogg
<banister> off*
<ericwood> he sounds like a supervillain
<andrewvos> WELL IF WILL.I.AM SAYS SO
<ericwood> oh gawd
<banister> andrewvos: hahah that bitch has something to say about everything, and it's 99% of the time confused and rambling
<ericwood> I started watching this steve jobs documentary on netflix the other day
<ericwood> within the first minute they started interviewing Will.I.Am
<ericwood> and I promptly turned it off
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<banister> will.i.am on corporate logos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dyA8Ae92Os
<andrewvos> banister: His name make me cringe
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<banister> he is cringe incarnate
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<andrewvos> banister: Oh my actual god
<andrewvos> banister: Look at the top comment ha!
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<banister> haha
<banister> true story though (he really needs to stop making music)
<andrewvos> seriously
<andrewvos> Sweet I've got a tmux status thing that shows how many people are on my site
<andrewvos> I just put a link on hacker news
<banister> he must live in some seriously well insulated bubble if he doesnt think he sucks
<andrewvos> And it's going up
<andrewvos> I've got like FOUR people on my site at one time guys! Pretty much a celebrity now
<andrewvos> banister: Why is he commenting on logos?
<yorickpeterse> andrewvos: oh yeah derp, you can click the links
<banister> andrewvos: because he's a genius and the voice of a generation i guess
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<andrewvos> banister: I doubt kids these days even know who he is?
<andrewvos> banister: His time has pssed
<andrewvos> passed*
<banister> andrewvos: did you see the whole thing about his new entertainment tonight jingle?
<andrewvos> nahh
<andrewvos> banister: oh no
<andrewvos> wattt
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<banister> andrewvos: even worse is they did like a 20 min "making of" special
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<andrewvos> :(
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<banister> pretty cool, reminds me of this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kowloon_Walled_City
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<andrewvos> yeah
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<tubbo> wow that's crazy
<andrewvos> Woo 12 people on my site
<andrewvos> Idiots
<tubbo> reminds me of kingston, jamaica except without the good music
<andrewvos> This is like the third hacker news script to do this
<tubbo> and more crowded
<andrewvos> They are like sheep
<tubbo> andrewvos: huh?
<andrewvos> tubbo: Unrelated to that link )
<andrewvos> :)*
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<andrewvos> First comment "comments are essential to much of HN"
<andrewvos> Man that place is a cesspool
<banister> andrewvos: link to the hn post?
<andrewvos> erm ctrl+terminal
<andrewvos> ctrl+f
<andrewvos> The comments on this post are hilarious https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6146880
<tubbo> andrewvos: oh right...it's pretty easy to get noticed if you just follow a simple formula.
<andrewvos> People getting angry over not being able to comment in json
<tubbo> andrewvos: which is of course web application => beautiful shell interface
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<tubbo> i don't understand the appeal of HN. like i read it because people post good articles there but the site is horrid to look at
<andrewvos> tubbo: Yeah I hate it but it has some good links
<tubbo> it's funny to me that smart/connected people in the programming community will post to HN and not a nicer community like lobste.rs
<andrewvos> Sometimes
<tubbo> sometimes.
<tubbo> haha
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<andrewvos> lobste.rs is small
<chris2> yeah
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<andrewvos> Well, as far as I know
<andrewvos> Is it?
<tubbo> yup
<tubbo> andrewvos: it's invite-only
<tubbo> that's why
<chris2> it would suck too if it was big...
<tubbo> chris2: *maybe*..
<tubbo> it depends
<tubbo> the content is heavily controlled. you have to post a tag and the tag has to already exist.
<andrewvos> Shit I'm on front page I think. Well guess I'm gonna get to test out my new go project
<andrewvos> (Shows how many unique users are on the site)
<andrewvos> And it's broke :(
<andrewvos> Google analytics shows 100+ unique users
<chris2> its pretty focused, too
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<andrewvos> My script shows 30 :(
<tubbo> andrewvos: want an invite?
<andrewvos> I suck at programming
<andrewvos> tubbo: I got one a while ago, but thanks :)
<tubbo> wow this is fucking cool https://lobste.rs/u
<tubbo> i never noticed that before
<havenwood> Nice, i just discovered lobste.rs last night. Wrote a little script to open the frontpage links in new tabs: https://gist.github.com/havenwood/6137914
<chris2> problem is that lobsters has almost no links i havent seen
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<andrewvos> Damn if it gets high enough I can replace the creenshot on my post with the actuall hacker news post in the list :)
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<tubbo> chris2: there are a few weird ones. that's why i like lobste.rs
<havenwood> some good crypto links
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<chris2> also i wish more sites would implement a non-self-post policy (like mefi)
<havenwood> andrewvos: link?
<tubbo> i saw this on lobste.rs first http://worrydream.com/dbx/
<havenwood> I'm curious.
<havenwood> tubbo: just watch that, got me to laugh a few times
<andrewvos> havenwood: https://news.ycombinator.com/news
<chris2> tubbo: i read hn before lobsters, daily :P
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<andrewvos> havenwood: If i give a direct link it will get marked as spam I think
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<havenwood> andrewvos: I mean which one is your go project? :P
<havenwood> andrewvos: aha
<xuser> chris2: how many times a day? :)
<yorickpeterse> rofl
<andrewvos> havenwood: github.com/AndrewVos/current-unique-users
<NemesisD> uhh when doing gem update --sytem, i'm getting a timeout on gems.rubyforge.org. what is rubygems doing contacting rubyforge?
<chris2> xuser: 1 to n? :P
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<havenwood> tyty
<xuser> ;)
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<NemesisD> is there some global gem sources list i have misconfigured?
<chris2> with n=5 on a really boring day perhaps :P
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<havenwood> NemesisD: Maybe try the `gem install rubygems-update && update_rubygems` route? What version are you on now?
<NemesisD> havenwood: looks like i have a .gemrc and under sources it lists gems.rubyforge.org and gems.github.com D: must be old as heck. should i just delete that key from that config
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<havenwood> NemesisD: yes
<NemesisD> using bundler must end up sidestepping this config
<NemesisD> because i can't even remember when i set that
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<havenwood> NemesisD: Nothing defaults to 'https://rubygems.org'.
<tubbo> chris2: was it on HN first?
<havenwood> NemesisD: Though depending on the RubyGems version you're on now... May need to put it in to update then remove, i dunno. >.>
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<chris2> tubbo: what?
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<chris2> dbx? yes
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<havenwood> yorickpeterse: As we all join absperf Campfire room...
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<andrewvos> havenwood: Any idea why my go project doesn't work? :)
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<havenwood> andrewvos: I'm a Go newb, no clue. :O
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<erikh> wat prob
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<andrewvos> hehe
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<andrewvos> erikh: My app is showing me 64 users unique, there's liek 200 unique actually
<andrewvos> erikh: Pretty sure it's how I generate a client key
<andrewvos> erikh: github.com/AndrewVos/current-unique-users
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<erikh> nat
<andrewvos> erikh: Wha?
<erikh> dem cookies
<erikh> your users are coming from behind a proxy or NAT likely.
<erikh> so all their hosts are the same
<andrewvos> They are all from HN, doubt they share the same IP?
<erikh> check with google analytics.
<andrewvos> I am
<andrewvos> 256 users on there, 67 on my script
<andrewvos> Oh you mean the NAT stuff
<erikh> yes, yours would present deflated numbers if many of them were giving you a remote_addr from teh same ip
<erikh> or if you have something like nginx doing X-Real-IP wrong
<andrewvos> Yeah I get that
<andrewvos> erikh: It's hosted on heroku
<andrewvos> erikh: Perhaps I need to get the ip from some header
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<erikh> that would be X-Real-IP most likely, or the last bit of X-Forwarded-For
<rue> Look for problem for an hour, find out that jquery 2.x returns 404 by default on readyStatus 0 -.-
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<rue> I was all up in the server stack and everything.
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<rue> Er. Damn you for talking here and stealing focus
<andrewvos> erikh: I already am using x-forwarded-for and it's not working :/
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<andrewvos> erikh: Oh shit I use 60 seconds, google uses 5 minutes!
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<andrewvos> Yay this is so cool being able to test it like this
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<havenwood> Gimme gimme a lobste.rs invite (shannonskipper@gmail.com).
<andrewvos> kk
<andrewvos> done
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<havenwood> thank you kind sir!
<andrewvos> pleasure dude
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<erikh> andrewvos: ah
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<andrewvos> erikh: Five minutes seems long
<andrewvos> Butyeah now GA shows 264 and my thing shows 289
<andrewvos> So either redis sucks or whatever they use sucks
<erikh> I'm guessing what they use doesn't suck
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<andrewvos> Yeah it's probably just different because of our 5 minutes being out of sync
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<andrewvos> Pretty stoked it works though
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<yorickpeterse> bleeeghhh, why won't it cool down
<yorickpeterse> I have a lump of ice in front of my fan for crying out loud
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<andrewvos> That is pretty cool ^
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<andrewvos> yorickpeterse: How how is it?
<yorickpeterse> 31C
<yorickpeterse> no wind at all
<yorickpeterse> and it's 20:40
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<yorickpeterse> WHAT IS THIS, GREECE?
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<andrewvos> Dude cmon that's not that hot :)
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<erikh> says the man from .za
<yorickpeterse> andrewvos: it is for .nl standards
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<yorickpeterse> bruv
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<andrewvos> erikh: I've been here for 5 years, I'm basically a Brit now
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<andrewvos> mate
<andrewvos> alrite
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<yorickpeterse> 07 m8 no h8
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<andrewvos> My girlfriend just said "Don't wind me up" to me so yeah. Where's my passport.
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<yorickpeterse> hahaha
<yorickpeterse> they're coming for you
<yorickpeterse> if it's not the government trying to kick you out it's the slang
<andrewvos> I love England though :)
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<yorickpeterse> >> class Foo; attr :a; end;
<eval-in> yorickpeterse => nil (https://eval.in/40373)
<yorickpeterse> ok, now check this
<yorickpeterse> >> class Foo; attr :a, true; end;
<eval-in> yorickpeterse => nil (https://eval.in/40374)
<yorickpeterse> makes sense right?
<yorickpeterse> >> class Foo; attr :a, :b, :c, true; end;
<eval-in> yorickpeterse => true is not a symbol (TypeError) ... (https://eval.in/40375)
<yorickpeterse> srsly
<andrewvos> >> class Foo; attr :a, true; end;
<eval-in> andrewvos => nil (https://eval.in/40376)
<yorickpeterse> haha, apparently the use of booleans here is deprecated too
<andrewvos> >> class Foo; attr :a, :b, true; end;
<eval-in> andrewvos => true is not a symbol (TypeError) ... (https://eval.in/40377)
<andrewvos> >> class Foo; attr :a, true, :b; end;
<eval-in> andrewvos => true is not a symbol (TypeError) ... (https://eval.in/40378)
<andrewvos> Ohhh
<yorickpeterse> code explains itself
<andrewvos> Oh my
* yorickpeterse runs
<andrewvos> Let's just start again, with Ruby.
<andrewvos> Who's with me??
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<yorickpeterse> can we implement it in Go? Otherwise it won
<yorickpeterse> * won't reach the frontpage of HN
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<andrewvos> And it won't reach the front page of my heart
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<Olipro> #./*
<Olipro> <eval-in> yorickpeterse => true is not a symbol (TypeError) ... (https://eval.in/40375)
<Olipro> <yorickpeterse> srsly
<Olipro> <andrewvos> >> class Foo; attr :a, true; end;
<Olipro> <eval-in> andrewvos => nil (https://eval.in/40376)
<Olipro> <yorickpeterse> haha, apparently the use of booleans here is deprecated too
<Olipro> <andrewvos> >> class Foo; attr :a, :b, true; end;
<Olipro> <eval-in> andrewvos => true is not a symbol (TypeError) ... (https://eval.in/40377)
<Olipro> <andrewvos> >> class Foo; attr :a, true, :b; end;
<Olipro> <eval-in> andrewvos => true is not a symbol (TypeError) ... (https://eval.in/40378)
<Olipro> <andrewvos> Ohhh
<Olipro> <yorickpeterse> code explains itself
<Olipro> <andrewvos> Oh my
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<Olipro>  yorickpeterse runs
<Olipro> <andrewvos> Let's just start again, with Ruby.
<Olipro> <andrewvos> Who's with me??
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<Olipro> <yorickpeterse> can we implement it in Go? Otherwise it won
<Olipro> <yorickpeterse> * won't reach the frontpage of HN
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<Olipro> <andrewvos> And it won't reach the front page of my heart
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<KINGSABRI> hi guys
<KINGSABRI> what is the meaning or "::" when we start the class with it
<KINGSABRI> like
<KINGSABRI> line = ::Readline.readline(prm, true)
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<banisterfiend> KINGSABRI: paranoia usually
<banisterfiend> KINGSABRI: forces the constant to be looked up at top-level (Object)
<andrewvos> hahahaha http://cl.ly/image/110K3135403G
<KINGSABRI> banisterfiend, mmm I didn't understand that grammatically
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<KINGSABRI> banisterfiend, I'll find examples for that
<KINGSABRI> thanks bro :)
<xuser> KINGSABRI: it means the constant would be look up in the global scope
<drbrain> KINGSABRI: for class Foo; class Readline; end; ::Readline; end, ::Readline will be the top-level Readline, not Foo::Readline (for plain "Readline")
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<KINGSABRI> drbrain, aha,,
<KINGSABRI> I think this topic helps too http://rubylearning.com/satishtalim/ruby_constants.html
<drbrain> KINGSABRI: looks appropriate
<KINGSABRI> thanks all guys
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<banisterfiend> can anyone think of a way to resume the same line of a fiber multiple times without progressing to the next line?
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<andrewvos> Is everything in Ruby passed by reference?
<andrewvos> I mean, what isn't?
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<cored> hello
<cored> is there a problem with rubygems WARNING: Error fetching data: Errno::ETIMEDOUT: Connection timed out - connect(2) (http://gems.rubyforge.org/latest_specs.4.8.gz)
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<ckuttruff> Hi all; I was trying to get tail call optimization support compiled into my ruby 2.0 version. I've successfully used it by passing the relevant param to RubyVM::InstructionSequence, but am having trouble finding which flag needs to be set and how when compiling
<ckuttruff> is this a CFLAG option? I was reading the ruby source (iseq.c) but having trouble findout out exactly how SET_COMPILE_OPTION is grabbing the tailcall optimization string and where that should be set
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<Cremno> just edit vm_opts.h
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<ckuttruff> compiling with rbenv... is there a way to set an env. variable to achieve the same result?
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<postmodern> ckuttruff, CFLAGS should work
<ckuttruff> postmodern: thanks; so the syntax of that would be CFLAGS='OPT_TAILCALL_OPTIMIZATION=true'
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<ckuttruff> sorry for the ignorance; not really clear on how those are parsed during compilation
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<postmodern> ckuttruff, actually you want to set that in ruby itself
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<postmodern> RubyVM::InstructionSequence.compile_option = {:tailcall_optimization => true, :trace_instruction => false}
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<postmodern> ckuttruff, oh i see, you want to enable that definition
<ckuttruff> yes, so it doesn't have to be entered every time
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<Cremno> -DOPT_TAILCALL_OPTIMIZATION=1
<ckuttruff> Cremno: !! thanks
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<ckuttruff> and thanks all for the replies.
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<Cremno> I'm not sure if that'll work. Never tried it. Also, I don't use rbenv.
<ckuttruff> is that something that would go in CFLAGS? where'd you get the -D from?
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<Cremno> That's a common C compiler flag to define a macro.
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<ckuttruff> getting these messages, so looks like it's getting picked up: "warning: "OPT_TAILCALL_OPTIMIZATION" redefined [enabled by default]"
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<ckuttruff> oh interesting... so it defines a macro which overwrites that when that constant is looked up during compilation?
<ckuttruff> cool, thanks
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<Cremno> Just like I thought. I doesn't work with CFLAGS. Can't you edit vm_opts.h somehow?
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<ckuttruff> yeah, just realized that didn't take when compiling. I may be able to... I think I may just forgo using rbenv for my system ruby
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<ckuttruff> and edit that file you mentioned
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<ckuttruff> Cremno: hmm, strange... doesn't seem like editing the vm_opts.h worked either
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<Cremno> Hm, he left. It worked for me (trunk).
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<yorickpeterse> andrewvos: I see HN missed the point of your HN code
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<Nilium> HN misses a lot of points.
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<andrewvos> yarp
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<erikh> andrewvos: what did you write exactly?
<erikh> I saw the pixel thingy, but I don't read HN
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<zenspider_> andrewvos: fixnums and other "immediates" are not passed by ref. it's an impl detail/optimization tho
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<zenspider> is this impossible in rake? rule ".rex.rb" => ".rex"
<zenspider> looks like the change in depth of suffix is confusing rake
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<zenspider> ew
<zenspider> rule ".rex.rb" => [proc {|task_name| task_name.sub(/\.rb$/, "") }] do |t|
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