#ruby-lang on 2013-07-03 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

2013-06-29 12:33 apeiros changed the topic of #ruby-lang to: Ruby 2.0.0-p247: http://ruby-lang.org (Ruby 1.9.3-p448) || Paste >3 lines of text on http://gist.github.com

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01:58 <i_like_rails> When I am using File to write to a file, why does the file not have anything written to it until it's closed?

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02:07 <drbrain> i_like_rails is gone, but buffering is the answer

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08:14 <andrewvos> hey

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08:36 <sush24> I'm trying to play around with sidekiq https://github.com/mperham/sidekiq/blob/master/examples/por.rb

08:36 <sush24> 2.0.0-p195 :008 > PlainOldRuby.perform_async "like a dog", 3

08:36 <sush24> => "f54a63b4dc04e0c2209a0f30"

08:37 <sush24> this is the expected result?

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08:37 <injekt> sush24: yes

08:38 <sush24> where does it puts "Workin' #{how_hard}"

08:38 <injekt> it doesn't happen in the foreground

08:39 <injekt> and everything will be printed to wherever sidekiq logs stdout (a logger of some sort probably)

08:39 <injekt> the return data is the unique job id

08:39 <sush24> It's not in the sidekiq process

08:39 <injekt> did it finish already?

08:40 <injekt> if you want to test things non-async just use PlainOldRuby.new.perform(...)

08:41 <sush24> I'm assuming that bypasses sidekiq

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08:42 <injekt> right, using puts for testing a background process probably isn't a good indication things are working

08:43 <sush24> 2013-07-03T08:41:39Z 10199 TID-b458c INFO: Running in ruby 2.0.0p195 (2013-05-14 revision 40734) [x86_64-linux]

08:43 <sush24> 2013-07-03T08:41:39Z 10199 TID-b458c INFO: See LICENSE and the LGPL-3.0 for licensing details.

08:43 <sush24> 2013-07-03T08:41:39Z 10199 TID-b458c INFO: Starting processing, hit Ctrl-C to stop

08:43 <sush24> nothin on the sidekiq process logs

08:43 <sush24> the alternative?

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08:48 <injekt> sush24: I dont have access to sidekiq right now so I can't test anything, might be worth checking in #sidekiq to see if anyone is around to help

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08:49 <sush24> injekt, thank you, I'll check it out

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08:50 <yorickpeterse> morning

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11:14 <judofyr> RUBY RUBY RUBY

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11:17 <gnufied> UBY UBY UBY

11:17 <gnufied> i woke up learning about un.rb

11:18 <gnufied> ruby -run

11:18 <gnufied> :(

11:18 <gnufied> and been smiling ever since

11:20 <injekt> same with ubygems.rb

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11:21 <GarethAdams> can you imagine what the world would be like if 'require' and 'ruby' didn't begin with the same letter?

11:22 <GarethAdams> s/ruby/rubygems/

11:22 <judofyr> rrubygems

11:22 <gnufied> equire "ubygems" ?

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14:46 <ericwood> require 'rrubygems'

14:47 <yorickpeterse> rrrrrrrruuuubygems

14:47 <yorickpeterse> it's grrrrrrrrrreeaaattt

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15:59 <yorickpeterse> TIL

15:59 <yorickpeterse> >> 0.to_f / 0

15:59 <yorickpeterse> ....

15:59 <yorickpeterse> eval-in_: HEY YOU ASS

15:59 <yorickpeterse> either way, it results in NaN

15:59 <yorickpeterse> instead of a zero division error

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16:04 <realDAB> yorickpeterse: in ruby-head, also:

16:04 <realDAB> head :004 > 1.1 / 0

16:04 <realDAB> => Infinity

16:05 <yorickpeterse> what the fuck

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16:06 <Mon_Ouie> That's the regular way floats work

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18:25 <mbj> whitequark: I love the separation of begin / kwbegin

18:25 <mbj> whitequark: This allowed me to remove context tracking when unparsing.

18:26 <mbj> whitequark: One note, maybe we should rename begin to body?

18:26 <mbj> whitequark: And can rename kwbegin to begin?

18:28 <whitequark> uh, why?

18:28 <whitequark> they're the same type of expression: grouping of statements

18:28 <whitequark> so the names should at least be similar

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18:41 <mbj> whitequark: if I name a node like a keyword I expect that keyword in source.

18:42 <mbj> whitequark: kwbegin is the literal begin

18:42 <mbj> whitequark: so it should be named begin, consequently

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18:42 <mbj> whitequark: And what was begin needs another name, if you dont like body, lets pick ibegin (for implicit)

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18:43 <mbj> whitequark: You are heading the 2.0.0 area, so I'm just raising my ideas now.

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19:02 <whitequark> mbj: idk, we don't have any other nodes named like keywords

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19:09 <mbj> whitequark: if, case, when, rescue ?

19:09 <mbj> whitequark: All Node#types equal the keywords, why kwbegin, begin are special?

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19:16 <whitequark> mbj: since () and begin..end are the same syntax

19:16 <whitequark> *have the same semantics

19:16 <mbj> whitequark: Maybe I dont get it. When I see "begin; end" in the code it get a kwbegin node.

19:16 <mbj> whitequark: But when I do a "def foo; end" I get a def with begin body. This looks inconsistent.

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19:54 <whitequark> mbj: well, I need some nodes to group expressions

19:54 <whitequark> the *only* reason for kwbegin's existence is that it works in a different way with modifier while/until.

19:54 <whitequark> if that wasn't the case, kwbegin and begin still were a single node.

19:56 <whitequark> the fact that `begin..rescue..end` also results in a kwbegin node is an irrelevant implementation detail

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20:22 <mbj> whitequark: okay

20:22 <mbj> whitequark: I thought kwbegin is a "literal" begin block.

20:22 <mbj> Anyways awesome work :D

20:22 <mbj> have to run, cu

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20:29 <yorickpeterse> heh what the fuck, Rubygems thinks rbx-head is a java runtime

20:29 <yorickpeterse> lel

20:30 <yorickpeterse> Could not find gem 'rubocop (>= 0.9.9) java' in the gems available on this machine.

20:30 <yorickpeterse> well bundler or w/e

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20:34 <yorickpeterse> oh derp

20:34 <yorickpeterse> I mistyped the version

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20:54 <yorickpeterse> whitequark: ping

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22:29 <brownies> hello

22:29 <brownies> i have a module with some instance methods in it

22:29 <brownies> is there some way to just run them directly? without having to include the module into a class?

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22:49 <andrewvos> You could use module_function

22:49 <andrewvos> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/322470/can-i-invoke-an-instance-method-on-a-ruby-module-without-including-it

22:50 <andrewvos> You could do a couple things really

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23:02 <zenspider> why can't I change nicks when unregistered in this channel? I can't register w/o changing nicks. seems dumb.

23:02 <zenspider> also: rawr

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23:03 <zenspider> http://blog.zenspider.com/blog/2013/07/ruby_parser-flog-flay-now-have-ruby-2-0-support.html ruby 2.0 support is released

23:03 <zenspider> http://blog.zenspider.com/blog/2013/07/my-emacs-setup-what-next.html would like feedback on what emacs stuff to blog about

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23:54 <RickHull1> zenspider: awesome blog series. reading through pt 1 now

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23:56 <zenspider> thanks

23:56 <zenspider> lemme know what gaps I can fill in

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