apeiros changed the topic of #ruby-lang to: Ruby 2.0.0-p247: http://ruby-lang.org (Ruby 1.9.3-p448) || Paste >3 lines of text on http://gist.github.com
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<headius> zenspider: I'm going to have to run...what did you need?
<zenspider> headius: jruby still bundling mt4.7 and using minitest-excludes?
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<headius> we bundle 1_9_3 branch stdlib minitest with no modifications... minitest-excludes only used at dev time
<headius> jruby 9k will move up to 2.0 stdlib most likely
<zenspider> ok. so I probably shouldn't patch up minitest-excludes to work with mt5 at this point
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<headius> we freeze our dev-time install to a specific version
<headius> so it probably wouldn't affect us if you did
<zenspider> like, vendored? ok. that works
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<headius> yeah, need to keep dev time predictable
<zenspider> great. thanks. that is all.
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<yorickpeterse> morning
<gnufied> morning
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<erikh> hi
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<tommylommykins> I tihnk the border between being able to do alcohol sensibly and totally under controlo does the bare male chest in all its hairy, or shaved, wonder. We have waited so long for a heatwave that perhaps we had collectively forgotten that this kind of weather leads men of all shapes and sizes to cast off their shirts. Should it be allowed?
<tommylommykins> wow
<tommylommykins> that was a mopnster accidental pste, sorry
<erikh> it also was apparently written by someone with mental health issues
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<yorickpeterse> tommylommykins: hahaha
<yorickpeterse> but yes, it should be allowed to take off your shirt
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<stef1a> how do you look for duplicate struct members in an array of structs?
<stef1a> like, if you have a struct of members :a and :b, how do you find instances of that struct with the same :a in an array?
<apeiros> you could group the array by a
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<banister> hi men
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<yorickpeterse> A while ago I recall bumping into this Gem that would make it easier to read binary files and what not without having to do all the parsing yourself, does anybody know what Gem this would be?
<yorickpeterse> (I can't remember the name)
<canton7> yorickpeterse, one of the things listed under 'alternatives' here? http://bindata.rubyforge.org/manual.html
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<canton7> (or indeed bindata itself)
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<yorickpeterse> heh, that's the one
<yorickpeterse> ta
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<yorickpeterse> ha, already had it starred on GH too
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<stef1a> how do you look for duplicate struct members in an array of structs?
<stef1a> like, if you have a struct of members :a and :b, how do you find instances of that struct with the same :a in an array?
<badeball> stef1a: with struct, do you mean a hash?
<badeball> stef1a: you can for instance do my_structs.group_by { |struct| struct[:a] }. this will create groups of structs containing the same value for :a.
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<apeiros> stef1a: how very polite of you to repeat your question and not reacting to an answer you get
<apeiros> srsly, people skills--
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<yorickpeterse> it's a persistent connection
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<apeiros> is it appropriate to kick people for being douchebags?
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<yorickpeterse> Police violence! Police violence!
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<abstr4ct> trying to get cgi to put "content" in the cgi generated html body tages like <body>CONTENT</body> However, the content appears before the generated html... http://pastebin.com/0dpueJRf
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<abstr4ct> when you execute a query at mysql command the output is formatted into a ascii table. Can this be done using ruby?
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<apeiros> yorickpeterse: ok, I think I'll be violently policing when he asks a third time.
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<canton7> abstr4ct, re the cgi, I doubt 'puts' is what you want there
<canton7> 'puts' prints the content immediately
<canton7> I'm assuming just "CONTENT" will work there
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<canton7> abstr4ct, and for your second question, something like this? https://github.com/arches/table_print
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<abstr4ct> i am trying to execute a mysql query in a loop
<abstr4ct> but i keep getting the number of loops, not the content of the query
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<apeiros> then you're probably using the wrong loop construct
<abstr4ct> yes it seems so
<abstr4ct> here is the code and output, any ideas are welcome http://pastebin.com/yJXqW2P6
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<apeiros> why the fuck do so many people still use that crap which is pastebin.com?
<apeiros> abstr4ct: please use an ad-free paste service. e.g. gist.github.com
<abstr4ct> oh
<abstr4ct> sorry
<imperator> chill
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<apeiros> you know what pisses me off the most? when people feel the need to tell me to "chill" :-p
<erikh> ok
<erikh> chillax then
<imperator> that's nothing. you should see what happens when i say "chillax"
<erikh> ha
<erikh> ^5
<imperator> erikh, dammit
<apeiros> lol
<imperator> stop stealing my lines you fucking fuck!
<imperator> :-P
<erikh> hey, fuck you too buddy
<apeiros> imperator: chill!
<erikh> heh
<imperator> chillception
<erikh> indeed
<imperator> erikh, anyway, how's it going?
<erikh> not bad, just got home with a new galaxy note
<erikh> tablet
<erikh> working on a new VM provisioning system
<imperator> oh? sounds interesting
<spike|spiegel> I never understood the how the retardedness that inception that it is, is considered cool or awesome :P
<erikh> learning erlang
<erikh> you?
<abstr4ct> because you apparently need a account for gist
<imperator> abstr4ct, it's worth it
<erikh> since when?
<erikh> you can do anonymous gists.
<imperator> oh yeah nm
<OffTheRails> spike|spiegel: what is funnier is the play on 'inception' which is wrong..is it not recursion?
<imperator> erikh, just got back from wisconsin (for the 4th), gotta job hunt now
<imperator> working on my game still, too
<erikh> are you still in utah?
<imperator> colorado
<erikh> I thougth you were in utah for some reason, weird.
<imperator> sister lives out there now
<erikh> looking for a remote position?
<erikh> can't think of anything atm, sorry
<spike|spiegel> gee take your girly talk to private chat
<erikh> imperator's been here longer than me and I've been here close to a decade now
<erikh> so, sock -> mouth
<abstr4ct> so i have the content i want being output at the top, however, where the number 15 is in the html, is where i want it
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<imperator> cgi, eh? not a clue
<imperator> erikh, np, have a good lead i think - very hopeful it'll work out - if not, i become a rails drone probably
<erikh> plenty of work out here for that.
<abstr4ct> cgi a bad move? i just want simple html output
<erikh> abstr4ct: you may wish to consider a templating system like erb or haml
<erikh> CGI just prints the html to stdout so you could simplify a little.
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<erikh> depends on what you need really. if you need form processing, etc, I'd recommend sinatra.
<erikh> ... sinatrarb.com iirc
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<erikh> but to answer your question more directly, CGI is generally considered an antipattern for web development in the ruby community.
<erikh> or just a bad practice. pick your phrase.
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<imperator> erikh, i think i'm more interested in elixir than erlang at this point - nicer syntax :)
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<zzak> imperator: hi
<spike|spiegel> lol, the next hype'd up thing huh
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<imperator> is it hyped?
<spike|spiegel> erlang for a while, haskell for a while, and now this?
<imperator> zzak, yo
<imperator> was never into haskell myself
<zzak> imperator is hardly the band wagon type
<banister> spike|spiegel: you're a haskell programmer?
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<Nilium> I'd like to learn Erlang but I'm not really sure if there's a good way to build desktop applications and such with it
<banister> Nilium: that's not really its sweet spot
<banister> same as you wouldn't build a gui app with ruby (really)
<Nilium> Definitely isn't.
<Nilium> Well, I've built GUI stuff with Ruby
<banister> using what framework?
<Nilium> wxRuby, years ago
<spike|spiegel> go to python and go gtk or qt in it :)
<banister> i would go the websocket + coffeescript + ruby backend route
<Nilium> It used to be nice. Then wxWidgets died. And then wxruby went unmaintained. And so on until the web devs basically claimed Ruby for themselves and made it less fun.
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<banister> Nilium: hehe
<Nilium> But I've got OpenGL and such working in Ruby now, so it's all good again.
<spike|spiegel> python is a better ruby for anything that is not web
<Nilium> Also 3D math that isn't hideously slow.
<Nilium> Because math in Ruby is disturbingly slow.
<banister> Nilium: should be a bit better now with flonums
<spike|spiegel> haha
<banister> flonums are only 2.0 though
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<Nilium> 4x4 matrix multiplication is around 7x worse than C in terms of performance. O_o
<Nilium> I limited all my stuff to 2.0 and greater, but it's still pretty bad.
<banister> Nilium: this is floating point math?
<Nilium> Yes.
<banister> oh ok
<sepp2k> Nilium: Using matrix.rb or your own code?
<Nilium> My own.
<imperator> time to bust out ffi
<spike|spiegel> write that in C and call it ruby
<Nilium> I already wrote bindings for my old 3D math code, so no need for FFI
<sepp2k> Why? Just use what's already in stdlib.
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<Nilium> At any rate, I like writing Ruby too much to not try to get things that it's not often used for working well
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