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highcharts seems kinda insane
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Date.UTC(2013, 06, 04) != "week from July 4, 2013"
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zenspider >
need a javascript nerd.
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zenspider >
Date.UTC(2013, 6, 4) => 1372896000000
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zenspider >
in ruby: Time.at 1372896000000 / 1000 => Wed Jul 03 17:00:00 -0700 2013
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zenspider >
which is... wrong
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zenspider >
what am I not getting?
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fowl >
any poon tang
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fowl >
srs u got an audience of 300 ppl and nobody wants to help you because you're a dick
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6 is june
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rickhull >
sorry i lost the backscroll
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zenspider >
it was just fowl (who was already banned) getting banned again
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rickhull >
i thought you were comparing 6 to "July"
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zenspider >
in ruby: Time.at 1372896000000 / 1000 => Wed Jul 03 17:00:00 -0700 2013
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omfg... they're zero based months and days
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ARGH... just zero based months
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zenspider >
who the fuck thought this shit up?
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brilliant
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that is the most ass-backwards horrible bullshit ever
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MONTH_NAMES = ['Jan', 'Feb', …]; MONTH_NAMES[date.month]
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also, I totally agree
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GarethAdams: require 'date'; Date::MONTHNAMES
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how can I print a float, such as 0.0000003, as 0.0000003 instead of 3.0e-6? I remember it was similar to "%f" % f...
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havenwood: there's no require in Javascript ;)
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perry: ri sprintf should have all the formats.
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GarethAdams: that's fucking stupid
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zenspider >
put null in 0
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erikh >
lots of javascript is
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erikh >
wait until you see the rest of the time/date stuff
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perry >
erikh, thank you
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means I can't use Time.parse(s).strftime("Date.UTC(%Y, %m, %d)")
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zenspider >
because fuck you... that's make sense
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erikh >
ok time to go for me
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erikh >
back later.
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just got back from dinner
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man, i fuckin hate javascript
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zenspider >
YOU MEAN YOU WEREN'T WATCHING MY VIDEO???
**SOB**
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bradland >
cuz i'm bad at it
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because it is a horrible language
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sry bro, a few months back, i decided to make chipotle a priority in my life
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zenspider >
when the author of the definitive js book has to put out "js, the good parts" and it is 1/20th the size of his normal js book... something is wrong.
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bradland >
(saying it like that is supposed to make me feel more responsible)
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zenspider >
esp when the skinny book spends most of its time bitching anyways
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zenspider >
chipotle?... that's just sad
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bradland >
i'm a chipotle addict
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bradland >
say what you will... i have no excuses, only my addiction
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zenspider >
that "week from" part is annoying too
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zenspider >
the first step...
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bradland >
dates in javascript are like a puppy slaughter
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bradland >
i use a lib called moment.js when i'm forced to use it
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zenspider >
thanks for helping me make that
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bradland >
ba da bing!
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bradland >
damn, this is a great idea
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bradland >
i don't lift, but i run
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bradland >
just started at the end of march
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zenspider >
same type of visualization, given the type of workout that I do
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zenspider >
you'd do distance and time w/ a target speed or something
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bradland >
yep, distance and time
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zenspider >
I do weight and time with a target time
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runners do intervals and stuff, so it's good to track your pace at different distances
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2 x 800m + 2 mile run is my current nemesis
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you got the tooltips and the whole nine
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all of that is automatic. I stripped a lot of the stuff out
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but we tied in some row highlighting with the table plugin we use
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we also do zooming
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bradland >
you're also looking at the best looking "enterprise" procurement tool in the biz :)
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zenspider >
hrm... it does't look right on an iphone
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zenspider >
margins are totally fucked
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zenspider >
looks nice
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i see what you mean about the margins
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mobile safari is making a real mess out of the graphs (too skinny)
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i think that width 100% without a viewport size is janky in mobile safari
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zenspider >
yeah. looked fine in GC...
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zenspider >
oh... should I do something else?
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zenspider >
I have viewport width=device-width
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zenspider >
and the div width 100%
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zenspider >
seemed like it'd use the most
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zenspider >
_seemed_
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yeah, it
_should_
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did you specify scale?
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initial-scale=1.0
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i can answer that myself :\
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bradland >
try this
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bradland >
<meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1.0" />
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bradland >
for line 6 of the HTML
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zenspider >
that makes the page scale up so the chart looks right, but the table is now bigger than the width. that's fine
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zenspider >
ooh. looks great in landscape
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bradland >
oh yeah, now that's the ticket
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zenspider >
ok. awesome. I'll consider that "done" for now
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I can totally use this to tweak my workout on the fly. thanks!
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alrighty, that makes it a night for me
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g'night all
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mdedetrich >
I know this is probably the wrong place to ask, but seeing as a lot of rubyists are mac users, is there a non shitty messenging app for mac
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erikh >
messages.app
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erikh >
comes with ML
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erikh >
I like it, at least.
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yeah, the issue with messages is it doesn
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*doesn't sync messages when sent from a browser
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I dont think thats possible though
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yorickpeterse >
morning nerds
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whitequark >
yorickpeterse: moo
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whitequark >
wanna write some docs for parser?
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whitequark >
I was planning on doing this today
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yorickpeterse >
Don't have time for it this week
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charliesome >
just saw this code in the wild
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charliesome >
attr_reader :use_instead
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charliesome >
remove_method :use_instead
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charliesome >
def use_instead
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gnufied >
excellent. that guy knows his ruby
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yorickpeterse >
go home code, you're drunk
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gnufied: neg, should've used define_method instead
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gnufied >
or class_eval <<__FILE__,
__LINE__ +1
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excellent. will try to sneak into a Rails pull request will improve the code quality. oh wait....
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yorickpeterse >
if you don't like it you can just remove it from your Gemfile
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of course it's not actually used
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gnufied >
a good gem name is taken now
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hell yes
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whitequark >
A Slower Speed of Light is available for linux
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yorickpeterse >
meh
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then again, if I ever want to get close to doing drugs without doing drugs I should probably play that game
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andrewvos >
That game is pretty cool
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yorickpeterse: it's not drugs
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whitequark >
it's reality around you
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With FactoryGirl is there a way to create multipe items but save them all at once?
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whitequark >
.build ?
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whitequark: But how do I save afterwards?
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Everytime I search for this I get some article by Steve Klabnik saying why he doesn't like FactoryGirl
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andrewvos: build_list
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and then save them however you want.
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iterate and call save or whatever
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gnufied: But I need to have a different sequence from the sequence I define in the factory
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Should have mentioned
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gnufied: And what I really want is to not do sql 100 times.
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do=execute
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andrewvos >
I only want to execute sql once
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gnufied >
be ready to concatanate SQL inserts then
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gnufied >
I don't think Factorygirl supports that
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(there is no reason to)
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batch inserts or something
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yorickpeterse >
whitequark: no shit
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yorickpeterse >
but I imagine that that's what a bad LSD trip looks like
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injekt >
ur mom is what a bad lsd trip looks like
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oh snap
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octocat >
Anyone has an alternative for a service like loggr? I would like to log any type of event from my ruby app. Preferrably a service with an iPhone client too like loggr. Being able to receive notifications on my phone.
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manveru >
octocat: papertrail?
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manveru: thanks I'll take a look
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that is reference a subclasses' constant from inside the parent class
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crankharder: check comment in your gist
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bradland: er, so there will be multiple subclasses
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probably just needs to be self.class.const_get(:URL) :/
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then you'll need to define how it will find the correct subclass constant
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crankharder: self.class::URL
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chris2 >
i need an english native speaker familiar with pig names
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drbrain >
… pig names?
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chris2 >
well, we are grilling a small pig
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chris2 >
is that called a piglet, pigling or suckling pig?
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drbrain >
I guess it depends upon the age
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between 2-6 weeks
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drbrain >
a suckling pig is a piglet that has not been weaned, a piglet has been weened
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drbrain >
(I looked up suckling pig on wikipedia, I did not know the difference)
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and "pigling" doesnt ring any bell? :P
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it doesn't
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and does the grilled result have a different name then?
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I don't think so
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drbrain >
maybe pigling is from the UK
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drbrain >
you could call a suckling pig a piglet, too
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not necessarily a ruby lang question (more cucumber and chef), but i figured i might find some help here. in the chef cookbook for mysql (
https://github.com/opscode-cookbooks/mysql) , there are two files in ./test/features/support/. these files are not `require`d anywhere that i can see. but they are used in the step_definitions. is there some sort of auto loading magic in cucumber that i am missing?
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eponymi: yeah
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what exactly is the magic? just loads everything in the support dir?
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grep the source for require i guess? :)
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hmm. just trying to figure out where i'm supposed to put my stuff. lots of divergent opinions/practices out there in the intertubes.
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eponymi: well, source says it loads everything with .feature extension
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eponymi >
manveru can you link to the part of the source you're talking about? i'm a rubnoob
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it's a bit more convoluted, but that's where it finds the files
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eponymi >
ok, but i was hoping to find where it loads the files with the ruby extension (all the stuff in step_definitions an support)
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and a bit below support_to_load
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eponymi >
goodness i really need to learn regex
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eponymi >
ok, so it looks like it doesn't matter at all how i organize my features directory
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eponymi >
anything ending in .feature will be loaded as a feature.
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eponymi >
anything in support/ will be loaded (i guess analogously to mixins?) as available methods. and anything in step_definitions will be loaded as the actual matchers
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manveru does that seem to jive with your understanding of that source?
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can't claim i understand it... it's the first time i've read it :)
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and i don't use cucumber, so probably the last
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manveru do you use any acceptance test tools?
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or system tests, or functional tests, or any of the other whatever people call cucumber features
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manveru >
i use bacon
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erikh >
I just use ruby
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erikh >
having this fight at work too.
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manveru >
or minitest, if there's no bacon :)
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eponymi >
ok, i just spent 2-3 days learning cucumber. how long does bacon take to learn?
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erikh >
about 15 minutes
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eponymi >
erikh: i'm not fighting! :)
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erikh >
oh, no, not saying you are
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erikh >
it's just /common/
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manveru >
Bacon.summary_on_exit; describe('foo'){ it('does what i say'){ does == say }}
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manveru >
sorry, i made a mistake
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manveru >
does.should == say
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manveru >
that's like 90% of what bacon offers
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eponymi >
erikh i also highly doubt it will take me fifteen minutes, because i am new to ruby. and i am an idiot.
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erikh how do you mean that you use ruby for testing, though?
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you mean just using Test::Unit?
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eponymi: minitest these days, but yeah
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I don't have a lot of love for testing DSLs
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erikh: i do find cucumber (or more like gherkin) useful for communicating with clients and letting everyone know when the agreed upon work is done (read: getting paid)
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erikh >
I write docs instead.
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I mean, feel free to do it your way -- I'm not judging -- I just don't like cucumber is all
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erikh: i do not accept your disagreement!
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erikh: hes banned from jamaica u know
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erikh >
haha really
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manveru >
who's that?
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boytoy >
for claiming he's a reincarnation of bob marley
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theres even a bounty on his head
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snoop lion (no longer a dogg)
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they can't just write it off
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you know, they should probably know a thing or two about people who smoke too much weed
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boytoy >
erikh: nah i think it was the fruit juice
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boytoy >
comparing that to bob's music.. i can understand the anger
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cored >
this probably will be a sily question, but why if Smalltalk and Ruby are more or less similar
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cored >
we don't have that kind of tools, for doing things like refactoring ?
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cored: You could make omething with whitequarks parser I guess
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andrewvos >
Ergh can't we get rid of the having to login to speak in here thing please
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rickhull >
to what end?
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cored >
andrewvos: I see
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cored: since Smalltalk is image based the editing paradigm is different
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drbrain: I see
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cored >
drbrain: I'm having a discussion with a co worker, regarding tools on Ruby it's made me curious about that Smalltalk IDE
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drbrain >
cored: eclipse has similar refactoring tools for Java
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rickhull >
ruby has pry — boosh!
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cored >
drbrain: he is saying that when you work on a Ruby project you need to know stuffs that on .NET he doesn't have to; like inclusino of new classes to a project
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cored >
for example
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kung_fu_mike >
Does anyone here know how to set the ruby for a specific user, such that /usr/bin/env ruby points to a locally compiled instance of ruby (and GEMS and so on) for just that user?
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drbrain >
rickhull: pry isn't a refactoring browser
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rickhull >
for sure :)
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rickhull >
but .NET doesn't have anything comparable (AFAIK)
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kung_fu_mike >
I am having some trouble figuring out if it is governed by specific environment variables or if I just have to muck with $PATH in bash
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drbrain >
cored: I don't write ruby in a way that those things are a problem for me
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Asher >
are there better learn to program problem sets than the euler problems?
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Asher >
one of my friends is going through those and they are so math oriented it strikes me as distracting
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drbrain >
cored: I tend to keep my modules more toward what Enumerable and Comparable represent, where the add some functionality based on a method or two
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cored >
drbrain: can you elaborate
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cored >
drbrain: that's sounds interesting
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cored >
drbrain: but you are talking about design decisions, I think he is talking about organizing projects/directories structures
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drbrain >
the two are coupled
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drbrain >
I like clean separation between interacting objects such that they only call a few methods on each other
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drbrain >
this makes it easier to follow what is going on
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cored >
I think that his problem is that he is not very productive with plain editors like vim/emacs even with sublie
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cored >
and that's is frustrating him, he is too accomodate to VS
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cored >
he already said that he is not productive with Ruby even when he have to write less line of code because all the code that he write with .NET the IDE does it
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rickhull >
switching langs and environments is painful, but only temporary
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cored >
rickhull: he have like 3 years working with Ruby and he still says that he is not productive
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drbrain >
when a project gets big enough that I have to rely on things like ctags (rubygems and rdoc are close to this realm) the project is too big
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but all this problems are comming to the surface recently, he want to build applications with others arquitectures in mind but Rails doesn't let him so easly and there's no such things as good tools
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have you looked at rubymine or netbeans
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drbrain: his concerns, 'there's no such thing to handle projects, there's not good tools for refactorings, there's no good tools to handle dependencies between projects' he says that even using bundler is a pain
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it's not that there are no good tools, but that most/many ruby programmers eschew them, and don't seem to suffer for it
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rickhull: netbeans doesn't have support for Ruby anymore, but I told hime about Rubymine but I think he just don't want to keep programming in Ruby in general, I already told him to find another job; that will be the best for him
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rickhull >
that's the conclusion i've been leaning toward
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bcardarella >
hello
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rickhull: did not know
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rickhull >
you might be right though, i don't see ruby on the sidebar
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drbrain >
I've learned to not write my code in a way that requires me to use refactoring tools on it
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rickhull >
maybe just a dead page
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drbrain >
but on the other hand, I have years of experience
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erikh >
refuctoring
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drbrain >
so that's just not going to work for your friend
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cored >
drbrain: he have a lot of time programming, just like 3 years with Ruby
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erikh >
just press d twice a lot
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erikh >
you'll refactor everything
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drbrain: but I think he have a point regarding Rails
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I don't do much rails
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also, if I were writing in C# I don't think I would be able to make the same claim about "doing it right the first time"
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erikh >
it's a nice thing to have for large codebases
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erikh >
and C# projects tend to be larger.
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erikh >
especially with spring involved
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erikh >
(there are advantages, but another discussion for another time)
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erikh: maybe that's the thing
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cored >
but apart from doing 15 minutes blogs
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what's Rails good at?
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drbrain >
and you can replace C# with pretty much any language, Java, Python, etc.
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cored >
normally is against you
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cored >
drbrain: I think that the main problem is that there's just Rails in the Ruby world at the moment, and normally most people have to do things in the Rails way instead of the correct way
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cored: There is Sinatra. Espresso is pretty new but looks very nice.
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there are a billion and one web frameworks for ruby
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cored: Many Rack frameworks. Other non-Rack options as well.
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non-rack? like what?
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havenwood: let me check espresso
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cored >
now he is not talking about the framework in particular
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erikh >
go use chef, escape rails
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cored >
he wants an IDE
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lianj: E.g., Reel with Webmachine
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havenwood: ah true
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cored: A text editor with Unix tools makes for a very nice setup. Just a different world than IDE.
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havenwood >
lianj: I guess there really isn't a framework on Reel, yet.
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havenwood: I just have some problems
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havenwood: like refactoring for instance
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cored >
I heard what drbrain said, but normally we have to rescue projects
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cored >
and is really a pain in the ass
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cored: oh, yeah, that's where I would really like refactoring tools
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whitequark: How would I search for a specific object using parser if I have a line number and column?
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whitequark: Like, I have SomeClass on line 4, column 5. How do I get "SomeClass"?
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whitequark: I am lost halp
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