apeiros changed the topic of #ruby-lang to: Ruby 1.9.3-p374: http://ruby-lang.org (ruby-2.0.0-rc1) || Paste >3 lines of text on http://gist.github.com
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<Weems> completed the tryruby tutorial today :)
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<skyjumper> i'm getting a weird error in a rails app - https://gist.github.com/4582742
<skyjumper> trying to figure out how it's even possible... the same class is defined more tha once?
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<blahwoop> how do you like try ruby
<Kallikanzarid> hi all
<cirwin> skyjumper: are you memoizing objects across requests in development?
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<cirwin> sounds like bad interaction with the class reloader
<cirwin> blahwoop: http://repl.it/languages/Ruby ?
<skyjumper> cirwin: i'm not sure what memoize is, so probably not
<cirwin> skyjumper: just means keep a reference around
<skyjumper> however for some reason, the model classes are occasionally not auto-reloading
<cirwin> maybe cache is a better word
<skyjumper> i'm not storing them across requests or anything
<cirwin> ok
<cirwin> not sure then
<skyjumper> any idea where i might start looking? there's definitely another issue with the class reloader
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<rpdmatt> anyone here who can help with metaprogramming and redefining attr_accessor methods?
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<cirwin> rpdmatt: what are you trying to do?
<rpdmatt> trying to make a custom attr_accessor for a class that can track the values of every attribute that it has ever been given
<rpdmatt> so i defined a method in class Class
<rpdmatt> called attr_accessor_with_history(attr_name)
<rpdmatt> then i call the attr_reader for that
<cirwin> ok, sounds sane
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<rpdmatt> and something else called attr_reader+"_history"
<rpdmatt> which is just another getter
<cirwin> ok
<rpdmatt> then the class_eval which defines another method
<rpdmatt> for the setter
<rpdmatt> so it just ends up being
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<rpdmatt> def #{attr_name}=(var) ; @#{attr_name} = var ; end
<cirwin> pl
<cirwin> ok
<rpdmatt> but soemwhere in there i need a instance variable that can hold the history of what is set
<rpdmatt> and i'm not really sure how to go about doing it
<rpdmatt> i tried an initialize method in my class
<cirwin> @#{attr_name}_history ||= Set.new; @#{attr_name}_history << val
<rpdmatt> but that wouldn't be dynamic
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<rpdmatt> oh, thanks
<rpdmatt> i was trying to think if i could use method calls on @#{attr_name}_history
<rpdmatt> to determine if it had been defined or something yet
<rpdmatt> but wasn't sure what to do
<rpdmatt> that's way easier
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<rpdmatt> ahh
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<rpdmatt> the is_defined? method is kinda what i was trying to do initially
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<santosh> What is difference between 'class' and 'Class'?
<erichmenge> one has a capital c...
<erichmenge> I kid though.
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<erichmenge> santosh: classes are instances of Class.
<erichmenge> class is a keyword, Class is a… Class.
<rpdmatt> ya a class in ruby is an object of class Class
<rpdmatt> from what i understand
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<santosh> erichmenge: got it!
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<ten1> wow. "An Object in Ruby 1.9.3 has 56 methods. An Object in Rails has more than double the number of methods (118). An ActiveRecord Object has even more: 366"
<ten1> plus method_missing
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<paul0> I'm trying to port ruby to Haiku, and when I'm compiling it returns me an error: ./enc/depend:101:in `read': No such file or directory - ./enc/trans/che.trans (Errno::ENOENT)
<paul0> what is this che.trans?
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<blahwoop> hey guys
<blahwoop> anybody around?
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<crazyhorse> how do you find a list of duplicates in array in 1.9
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<postmodern> crazyhorse, a.select { |i| a.count(i) > 1 }
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<blahwoop> No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it. - connec t(2) (Errno::ECONNREFUSED)
<blahwoop> thats the error i get when i use httparty to post and get
<blahwoop> any idea what the problem might be
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<crazyhorse> postmodern: that worked
<crazyhorse> thanks for the tip
<crazyhorse> all_words.uniq {|u| u == "" ? rand(100000) : u} << i did this to ignore uniq values that were empty strings
<crazyhorse> is that a good way. or is there a better way?
<ten1> define 'better'
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<paul0> that's weird, when compiling ruby, it tries to use a file named "che.trans", but it doesn't exist
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<yorickpeterse> morning
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<andrewvos> What the hell was that horse guy on about? Scary code.
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<whitequark> horse guy? Oo
<Smol> 08:14:16 crazyhorse | all_words.uniq {|u| u == "" ? rand(100000) : u} << i did this to ignore uniq values that were empty strings
<Smol> 08:14:24 crazyhorse | is that a good way. or is there a better way?
<whitequark> well, the nick says everything
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<injekt> lol horse guy
<injekt> that's some crazy code
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<andrewvos> injekt: Indeed.
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<injekt> andrewvos: some might say, it's some crazy horse code
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<andrewvos> injekt: :/
<postmodern> injekt, code written by crazy horses?
<postmodern> injekt, or crazy code spoken by horses?
<postmodern> injekt, or code spoken by crazy horses
<postmodern> :P
<yorickpeterse> injekt: ZING
<workmad3> postmodern: maybe it's crazy code written by crazy horses?
<workmad3> postmodern: or possibly, crazy horses written by crazy code
<judofyr> crazy!
<injekt> and my axe!
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<postmodern> workmad3, now we're getting somewhere
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<unsymbol> :3
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<injekt> never build a crm
<judofyr> inkjet: noted
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<injekt> :(
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<hackeron> how would I pad a string with 2 zeros at the end? - For example "%06d" % value pads the zeros at the beginning - anything similar to pad with zeros at the end?
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<lzhz> hackeron: ("%06d" % value.to_s.reverse).reverse
<hackeron> lzhz: heh
<injekt> D:
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<lzhz> oh, missed the ;)
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<injekt> hackeron: maybe just use value.to_s.rjust(x, '0')
<injekt> ljust*
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<injekt> it'll just pad it, rather than using a fixed length
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<hackeron> injekt: needs to be a fixed length but code can be 4 or 6 digits long depending on configuration
<hackeron> injekt: so code 1234 needs to be sent as "123400" and 6 digit codes sent as "123456"
<hackeron> injekt: guess I could just validate code with regex and if valid and length is 4, just do + "00" :)
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<injekt> hackeron: eh, or just use ljust(6, '0') :S
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<injekt> I just found some of the worst code I've written, and it's 1.9 syntax so can't even be that old
<ddfreyne> injekt: I was just looking at the implementation of SortedSet in Ruby, and your code cannot possibly be worse
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<vbatts> zzak: :-)
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<yorickpeterse> Is there any gem that lets me build nested hashes in a syntax similar to something like `person { name('Yorick') }` which would result in `{'person' => {'name' => 'Yorick'}}`?
<yorickpeterse> This is for a DSL and while I have a hack together that sort of does this it's not very pretty
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<yorickpeterse> Basically Builder but for the Hash class
<injekt> D:
<injekt> {:person=>{:name=>"Yorick"}}
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<yorickpeterse> DAMN YOU, I was just about to hack something together
<yorickpeterse> But that looks like something I could use, thanks
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<yorickpeterse> https://gist.github.com/4586850 notbad.jpg
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<yorickpeterse> quite similar to what you had
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<injekt> :)
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<zzak> vbatts: my commit is slacking
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<vbatts> zzak: ?
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<yorickpeterse> you rack discirpine
<yorickpeterse> * disciprine, whatever
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<zzak> vbatts: its been a while
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<vbatts> ah
<zzak> ive only committed small patches in the last month
<vbatts> yeah
<zzak> been taking time to work on my presentation, and be with family
<vbatts> also good things to do ;-)
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<zzak> your patches look good
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<zzak> especially glad youre working on drb
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<zzak> last time i was in boston, mark bates was complaining how poor they were when he wrote his 'distributed ruby' book
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<matti> zzak: :)
<injekt> zzak: <3
<vbatts> zzak: yeah. i was a bit surprised with the undocumentation there.
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<vbatts> but that's the thing i love most about working on the documentation, is how indepth i learn about cool things in stdlib that i never have looked into before ;-)
<zzak> exactly
<zzak> inkjet matti :D
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<vbatts> just like curses. so much neat there, but good luck to anyone that could've *guessed* how to use it, without being previously familiar with curses and no documentation. at all.
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<zzak> i would analogize the stdlib with an impressionist gallery at a lesser known museum that youve found by accident, only to realize its true beauty after spending many hours pondering each stroke
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<vbatts> ahahah
<vbatts> :-)
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<hackeron> I have a file "lib/dsc_command.rb" - I'm trying to do require "lib/dsc_command.rb" but it's saying no such file - what am I doing wrong?
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<whitequark> oh curses
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<injekt> hackeron: require_relative 'lib/dsc_command'
<injekt> hackeron: the current working directory isn't in the LOAD_PATH in >=1.9 so you either need to use require_relative or require './lib/desc_command'
<injekt> if it's for a gem, I would recommend neither of these, though
<injekt> (rubygems adds your lib/ dir to the load path already)
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<whitequark> injekt: but won't require_relative be faster than require?
<whitequark> if there's a lot of stuff in $:
<injekt> that's probably splitting hairs
<whitequark> injekt: I'd say no, given the amount of optimizations which were applied to $:
<whitequark> and the ~2x or so improvement on raw rails startup time
<injekt> so maybe it wasn't splitting hairs before these optimizations
<whitequark> well. indeed :)
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<injekt> I just dont really like require_relative
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<whitequark> I liked it until I bumped into a bug where it didn't work from inside warbled and compiled files
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<hackeron> injekt: ah, sweet, I'll use rubygems and bundler :)
<injekt> hackeron: if you use rubygems and want to test locally, the -I flag is your friend
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<injekt> ruby -Ilib lib/foo.rb is how I do it
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<hackeron> injekt: ah, sweet, that works, thanks :)
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<Croves> What's the Ruby On Rails channel?
<rippa> #rails
<Croves> Well, I tough so :P
<Croves> Thank you, sir!
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<ericwood> #irc-on-railz
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<freedrull> when you're doing tdd, how do you know what you can stub and what you can't? :P
<chris2> test your code, not your stubs
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<yfeldblum> chris2, in ruby, i like to not stub the things an object depends on directly, but am ok with stubbing the the object's second-level dependencies; this rule applies to duck-typed languages and not really to statically-typed languages
<yfeldblum> freedrull, ^
<freedrull> yfeldblum: can you give an example of a second-level dependency
<yfeldblum> freedrull, if you're testing a tweet-sending controller, you can give the real TweetManager instance but a mock HttpClient instance that the TweetManager relies on
<freedrull> oh ok
<yfeldblum> freedrull, the tweet-sending controller calls the real methods on the TweetManager, but that only goes so far before encountering the stubbed methods on, or the mock of, the HttpClient instance
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<yfeldblum> freedrull, hope that makes sense
<freedrull> yfeldblum: that makes sense
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<freedrull> i mean its easy to think of an httpclient as something we would want to mock, the first thing that comes to mind is that you don't want to make requests during a test.
<freedrull> i can't really think of another example
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<zzak> testing file io using TempFile
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<andrewvos> hi
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<andrewvos> Is anyone here that can answer a Ruby question?
<ten1> that's silly
<blazes816> won't know until you ask
<andrewvos> :)
<ten1> I thought this was a python chat
<andrewvos> ten1: me 2
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<lianj> andrewvos: like you have never been here…
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<andrewvos> lianj: Who are you people?
<lianj> snakes on wires
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<andrewvos> lianj: That is a great band name. Ooh or Ruby web framework name?
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<heftig> puppets on strings
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<ten1> <3 puppet
<andrewvos> I like Ruby more for smaller provisioning scripts.
<ten1> why?
<andrewvos> Puppet = too much to learn. Aint nobody got time for that.
<ten1> lolz
<ten1> you just need to not have a life
<ten1> get all sorts of coding done that way
<andrewvos> Or stop being so damn lazy.
<andrewvos> But seriously, something didn't ever sit quite right with puppet for me.
<andrewvos> Seemed like too much code.
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