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<postmodern> is there a way to get ruby to halt parsing of a String in the middle?
<postmodern> or a way to comment out the remainder of the String
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<savagecroc> https://gist.github.com/cfae5a63c2a4417398aa << on line 76 i'm having an issue working out of a good way of breaking out of this loop. basically i want to limit the number of times the puts is run to a certain number of lines and then display .... (limiting output to 5 lines) at the end so that the user running the command knows that it's been truncated... the issue is that it also runs in a block so d on line 70 can get called multi
<savagecroc> ple times (note i'm creating a closure for message on line 39.. in addition to that i'd prefer to move the logic into it's own method
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<savagecroc> well boys?
<savagecroc> :)
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<postmodern> quick clarification
<postmodern> Symbols are not GCed in 1.9?
<yfeldblum> postmodern, correct
<yfeldblum> postmodern, y?
<postmodern> writing a blog post about the Rails CVE
<yfeldblum> postmodern, DoS because of symbols is a small worry compared to http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5035023
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<reactormonk> nice way to get everything from a string until the first space?
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<yfeldblum> reactormonk, /\A[^ ]*/
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<reactormonk> why not ^?
<yfeldblum> hm?
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<reactormonk> /^[^ ]*/
<yfeldblum> reactormonk, ^ does not match the beginning of the input string
<yfeldblum> reactormonk, at least, not in ruby
<yfeldblum> reactormonk, \A matches the beginning of the input string in ruby, and ^ matches the beginning of a line in ruby
<reactormonk> yfeldblum, why so? IT does.
<yfeldblum> hm?
<reactormonk> >> puts "foo bar"[/^[^ ]*/]
<reactormonk> ! puts "foo bar"[/^[^ ]*/]
<reactormonk> ...
<reactormonk> > puts "foo bar"[/^[^ ]*/]
<yfeldblum> reactormonk, might i suggest irb?
<reactormonk> yfeldblum, may I suggest pry? And yes, I tried it. Just wanted to prove my case in the channel.
<yfeldblum> reactormonk, sorry?
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<alec__> hi
<alec__> i'm new at ruby
<alec__> i've got a question about this line i'm looking at
<alec__> string = ARGF.readlines.map(&:chomp)
<alec__> i know what ARGF does, and .readlines
<alec__> but as for .map(&:chomp) i have no clue
<yfeldblum> alec__, it's equivalent to .map{|line| line.chomp}
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<alec__> ok, yfeldblum
<alec__> what does .map do?
<alec__> and chomp is like python .strip() right?
<yfeldblum> alec__, [4, 5, 6].map{|num| num * 6 - 1} #=> [23, 29, 35]
<alec__> ok
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<alec__> i think i get it
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<yfeldblum> alec__, cool
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<yorickpeterse> Morning
<alec__> morning
<Paradox> alec__, no
<Paradox> chomp is not like strip
<Paradox> strip is like strip
<Paradox> chomp just removes a \n at the end of the line
<Paradox> strip pulls whitespace off both sides of the line
<Paradox> :)
<Paradox> erm
<Paradox> s/line/string
<alec__> ok, Paradox, thanks
<alec__> yes
<alec__> gotcha
<alec__> nice, i will have a look at that later maybe
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<yorickpeterse> Oh nice, my linter has 100 stars on GH
<yorickpeterse> Not that that really matters but better than the usual 1-5
<apeiros_> aaaah, sass <3 - +absolute($bottom: 10px) instead of 5 lines of css (position: absolute; top: 0; right: 0; bottom: 10px; left: 0;)
<yorickpeterse> "10 files in total. 598 relevant lines. 587 lines covered and 11 lines missed"
<yorickpeterse> not bad for a refactor that's still in the works
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<yorickpeterse> "Avg. Hits / Line": 20805.8
* apeiros_ is refactoring an app at work atm - git reports in lib/ + app/ alone 440 changed files with 6k insertions and 8k deletions…
<yorickpeterse> welp, seems I have some performance issues to deal with there
<apeiros_> cleaning up feels good. off with those heads!
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<yorickpeterse> tehee, another Bacon hack
<kiddorails> I'm using /#(\w{2})(\w{2})(\w{2})/ expression to seperate RGB values from a color code. such that Regexp.last_match[1] gives red hex, 2 gives green etc..
<kiddorails> can I optimize regex?
<kiddorails> provided I'm grouping same (\w{2}) 3 times
<kiddorails> I tried /#(\w{2}){3}/ but, guess this doesn't work
<yorickpeterse> whitequark: you might find that gist interesting ^
<yorickpeterse> Hm, I can clean this up though
<yorickpeterse> sprintf to the rescue
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<yorickpeterse> Could probably extend Bacon with a custom module but meh, this is easier
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<richardjortega> does anyone know how to put the STDOUT of a rake task into a Rails view output?
<andrewvos> richardjortega: You're asking the wrong quetion
<andrewvos> question
<richardjortega> oh sorry, just trying to tell my user what's happening during a rake task
<richardjortega> it's for our internal admin system, so they can run a task on demand with a button press
<andrewvos> richardjortega: Well, you would need to update it with javascript polling or some shit
<judofyr> richardjortega: the simplest way: output = `rake … 2>&1`
<richardjortega> judofyr: what exactly is the 2>&1?
<judofyr> richardjortega: redirect stderr into stdout
<andrewvos> richardjortega: It puts STDERR and STDOUT somewhere
<judofyr> richardjortega: `` only captures STDOUT
<judofyr> 2> redirect STDERR
<richardjortega> gotcha
<judofyr> richardjortega: also, if you want to put user-input into that command, use Shellwords.escape(…) :)
<richardjortega> i think that would work, and maybe instead of the live polling something like putting it to a text file and then loading that after its done
<andrewvos> richardjortega: Ok well if you don't have the requirement to show them how far along it is then you're in luck!
<richardjortega> i'm going to run it as a background process
<andrewvos> richardjortega: ChildProcess isn't that bad.
<richardjortega> i just think they'd like an alert saying, "Finished! Here's the output"
<andrewvos> It's a gem
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<richardjortega> i'll look into childprocess too
<richardjortega> thank you both, more to research
<andrewvos> richardjortega: Sorry :(
<richardjortega> way better than when i started
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<richardjortega> just my puts looked so pretty in my terminal, thought it'd be fairly simple
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<judofyr> richardjortega: you can use Process.spawn for this too: file = Tempfile.new("rake"); pid = Process.spawn("echo", "world", :out => file.to_io, :err => file.to_io)
<judofyr> richardjortega: and then: Process.waitpid(pid) to wait for it to finish.
<judofyr> richardjortega: and file.rewind; file.read to read the response
<judofyr> richardjortega: or you can do polling on the tempfile
<richardjortega> that's sounds pretty legit
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<richardjortega> i think i will try this out
<judofyr> richardjortega: but yeah, if you want live polling too, things become more complicated :) I do recommend Process.spawn though. it's quite powerful: http://ruby-doc.org/core-1.9.3/Process.html#method-c-spawn
<richardjortega> i'm still a relatively new ruby dev (less than a year), and conceptually i get live polling, but i'll need to read more into that too
<richardjortega> not sure where to start their either ;)
<richardjortega> maybe i'll just wait for Rails 4 Live Streaming
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<richardjortega> thank you again judofyr and andrewvos
<judofyr> richardjortega: well, here's how I would do it. when you start a process you store metadata inside the database: job = Job.create(:command => "rake"). then you pick a filename from the job-id (def filename; "tmp/jobs/#{self.id}" end) and have a job.start that does: `output = File.open(filename, "w"); self.pid = Process.spawn(…, :out => output, :err => output)`
<judofyr> richardjortega: then you have a JSON-endpoint that does: job = Job.find(params[:id]); render :json => { :data => File.read(job.filename) }
<judofyr> richardjortega: (or, maybe you want the endpoint to take an `offset`-parameter so you only need to send the new content.
<richardjortega> i get that
<richardjortega> that sounds really cool
<judofyr> richardjortega: then write some JS to hit that URL every x seconds
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<injekt> huzzah
<injekt> I really need to try and debug irb
<judofyr> injekt: why?
<whitequark> yorickpeterse: it doesn't make sense
<whitequark> well, unless you turn off GC, in which case it doesn't make much sense either
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<injekt> judofyr: my irb history hasn't worked for like.. ever
<injekt> and it's starting to bother me
<judofyr> injekt: pry, dude. pry
<injekt> I use pry but dont have it on some rails apps I share, which means rails opens irb
<injekt> and i have no history
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<judofyr> ./script/runner binding.pry :D
<injekt> lol
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<yorickpeterse> whitequark: it does in my case
<yorickpeterse> it's a rough indication to see if my code is going rampant
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<zzak> good morning!
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<zzak> injekt: ive seen experienced similar issues
<zzak> mostly in trunk
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<yorickpeterse> injekt: there's a hack to load Pry when IRB is started
<injekt> zzak: ive had it all through 1.9.3 :(
<injekt> yorickpeterse: yeah Ive seen it
<yorickpeterse> USE ZEH PRY
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<zzak> pry is not a replacement for bug reports on irb
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<zzak> injekt: i dont get it in 1.9.3, just when i switch to trunk via 'rvm system'
<injekt> weird
<zzak> maybe because it's installed to /usr/local?
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<injekt> mines in ~/.ruby
<yorickpeterse> zzak: No, but Pry can be used to work around those bugs :)
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<injekt> blah been working for a client all day writing rspec specs :(
<injekt> rspec makes me mad and sad
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<injekt> zzak: should it work out the box without specifying history in the irbrc?
<zzak> injekt: youd think
<injekt> zzak: well I have 'irc/ext/savehistory' required, too
<injekt> irb*
<injekt> save-history
<zzak> you shouldnt need to
<zzak> my irbrc is blank
<injekt> yeah I didn't think so
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<injekt> will try trunk
<injekt> zzak: how up to date are you?
<injekt> with HEAD
<zzak> december 30th
<injekt> k
<zzak> does __ work for you?
<injekt> __ or _ ?
<zzak> __ is supposed to be "history of evaulated commands" but ive never tried it
<zzak> and there is __[line_number]
<injekt> me either, I only ever knew of _
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<zzak> it was in an old doc
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<injekt> compiling trunk
<injekt> just saw your tweet, what you got planned? :)
<zzak> need to finish my slides, and theres a bunch of patches i need to review :)
<injekt> for what?
<zzak> mri docs
<yorickpeterse> injekt: out of curiosity, what do you dislike of rspec? I prefer Bacon but I don't really dislike rspec
<injekt> ah sweet
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<zzak> its only 07:42 am here, so ive got all day :)
<yorickpeterse> I just don't understand the mocking framework though
<injekt> yorickpeterse: right now it's because i'm not familiar with it so I cant 'just do it' mostly
<injekt> zzak: sweet!
<injekt> yorickpeterse: i dont mind bacon, rspec is just mahoosive
<injekt> the reason I dont use either is because of 'should'
<injekt> and yes I know I can extend them to change that
<chris2> bacon is tasty :P
<workmad3> injekt: you don't need to extend rspec for that anymore
<workmad3> injekt: 2.11 introduced expect(whatever).to matcher
<injekt> workmad3: right, but I dont like expect(foo) either
<yorickpeterse> foo.should == bar # works for me
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<injekt> I guess I'm hard to please
<workmad3> injekt: you're just never happy, are you? :P
<injekt> workmad3: ;P
<workmad3> injekt: what don't you like about expect() btw?
<chris2> i wouldnt do the .should stuff again admittedly :P
<chris2> but expect().to is really ugly
<injekt> workmad3: too much happening, wrapping objects in yet another method is ugly
<antbody> I like expect more than should, the asserts become more readble imo.
<antbody> Or rather you notice right away which is an assert and which is the code.
<workmad3> injekt: I'm failing to see another alternative...
<injekt> chris2: what would you do? I really dislike 'should', and dont mind the 'must' stuff but cant think of anything nicer
<chris2> i think i prefer something { predicate } now
<injekt> workmad3: eh, minitest?
<workmad3> injekt: so you're wrapping your objects in assert methods
<injekt> no
<injekt> they're not wrapped
<injekt> they're arguments
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<injekt> assert foo, bar is not the same as asset(foo).equals(bar)
<chris2> ideally a failed predicate would get a traceback with all local variables listed
<chris2> didnt get around hacking that yet
<injekt> chris2: into bacon?
<chris2> not bacon
<injekt> there's shindo or something like that which i didn't mind
<chris2> that looks kind of like it
<workmad3> injekt: assert_equals(foo, bar) looks uglier to me than expect(foo).to eq(bar)
<injekt> workmad3: heh, ok
<workmad3> injekt: but then, that's why I use rspec syntax ;)
<injekt> :)
<chris2> i would also banish before/after
<injekt> yeah shindo uses returns(1) { 1 }
<injekt> raises(Err) { something }
<injekt> looks of squiggles though
<injekt> lots*
<injekt> zzak: yup history is broken on trunk for me too
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<chris2> i could live with assert_equal actually, but i constantly forget the order :P
<zzak> injekt: are you using rvm?
<injekt> zzak: psh hell naw :P I compile myself
<zzak> ok
<zzak> ill file a ticket
<injekt> thanks
<andrewvos> Like a god damn macerick
<zzak> injekt: thank you for confirming
<andrewvos> Gah
<andrewvos> maverick
<injekt> zzak: my steps to repro were literally; configure; make; make install; bin/irb
<injekt> zzak: sure
<zzak> injekt: does autocomplete work?
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<injekt> zzak: no :(
<injekt> zzak: ruby 2.0.0dev (2013-01-07 trunk 38734) [x86_64-darwin12.2.0]
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<zzak> injekt: haha great
<zzak> so indents, autocomplete, and history are broken
<zzak> no wonder people switch to pry
<yorickpeterse> indent has been broken for a while now
<injekt> :D
<yorickpeterse> I however always thought it was just me
<yorickpeterse> Having said that, it never really work well to begin with
<zzak> yorickpeterse: ive filed one on indent already, its completely gone in trunk
<zzak> 1.9.3 was okish
<yorickpeterse> gone on 1.9.3-p327 as well
<injekt> zzak: it's tab completing directories but nothing else
<zzak> yeah
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<zzak> like irb_*
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<zzak> those should be completable
<zzak> yorickpeterse: this is what i get on p362 http://screencloud.net/v/srk8
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<injekt> lol
<zzak> yorickpeterse: mind if i add this to the ticket?
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<yorickpeterse> Of course not, go ahead
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<zzak> thanks
<zzak> all of these are filed, #7642, #7679 and #7680
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<injekt> yeah just noticed, sweet
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<injekt> zzak: do you have any issues building rdoc on trunk?
<injekt> ah wait i'm using the old rdoc i guess maybe it cant handle that
<zzak> yes
<zzak> you cant use 3.12 on trunk
<injekt> makes sense
<injekt> rdoc 4 changes a lot :S
<zzak> either use rdoc in trunk or gem install rdoc --pre
<injekt> yeah options seemed to have changed
<zzak> drbrain worked really hard on the rdoc 4 release
<injekt> yeah i noticed some great stuff
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<zzak> :D
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<bosie> anybody knows how i can use rvm and rubycocoa together?
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<bosie> manveru: tried that, failed
<bosie> the install failed
<manveru> you using 1.8 or 1.9?
<bosie> 1.9
<manveru> and what failure?
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<bosie> hang on, running it again
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<bosie> manveru: sorry its taking so long
<manveru> don't worry, i'm here all day
<bosie> lol
<bosie> ok, no installation errors now
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<manveru> great :)
<bosie> "RubyCocoa DO NOT support Ruby-1.9" ;)
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<manveru> ok
<manveru> isn't there something like macruby that has cocoa support?
<manveru> don't have anything to try it on atm, just an idea
<zzak> injekt: i didnt recognize your new github avatar :D
<bosie> manveru: thats the reason why i thought i need rubycocoa
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<judofyr> bosie: just use system Ruby?
<bosie> judofyr: trying
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<bosie> judofyr: worked
<bosie> thanks judofyr and manveru
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<judofyr> \o/
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<injekt> zzak: :D
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<zzak> yay keiju-san already respond to the tickets :)
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<yorickpeterse> zzak: re: auto indent (see the comment on Redmine, don't have my login details so I can't comment myself): it used to be enabled by dfeault
<yorickpeterse> * default
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<yorickpeterse> changing that without notice seems like a bad idea to me, unless it was mentioned somewhere
<injekt> zzak: not history yet ;)
<injekt> zzak: I guess that's the only 'broken' one
<zzak> yeah
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<zzak> history is probably just disabled by default or something
<zzak> i wasnt smart enough to find the command to enable it or see if its disabled
<injekt> zzak: try with bin/irb -rirb/ext/save-history
<injekt> still doesn't work for me
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<zzak> like IRB.conf[:SAVE_HISTORY] and IRB.conf[:HISTORY_FILE] are both nil
<zzak> but same is true for 1.9.3
<injekt> hm
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<injekt> maybe keiju can shed some light on it
<zzak> yeh
<injekt> not sure why my messages still aren't showing up, did you see them via email?
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<zzak> yorickpeterse: you can comment via ML it just takes a few minutes
<zzak> injekt: too ^^
<injekt> yeah i replied to two issues
<injekt> I've replied to others before i guess it's just taking longer now :)
<zzak> i think it depends on redmine
<zzak> scarey thought
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<injekt> ah it's shown up now
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<yorickpeterse> zzak: ah yes that's true
<yorickpeterse> Ah yes, that's why I didn't see it: I filter out bug reports from the ML
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<yorickpeterse> what the fuck
<yorickpeterse> did he just tell IRB people to fuck off?
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<injekt> does indentation in pry auto-unindent?
<yorickpeterse> yes
<yorickpeterse> lemme show
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<injekt> :)
<injekt> showterm all the things
<yorickpeterse> yeah it's pretty baller
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<zzak> oo
<zzak> found it
<zzak> irb_context.auto_indent_mode = true
<zzak> instead of custom prompt in irbrc
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<banisterfiend> zzak: do you know the criterion for a lib to be pulled into stdlib? no deps? It would be interesting to know what we'd have to change to get pry in stdlib
<imperator> be careful what you wish for
<yorickpeterse> wasn't stdlib going to be gemified?
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<banisterfiend> yeah perhaps stdlib is where libraries go to die
<banisterfiend> ;)
<judofyr> :)
<yorickpeterse> le stdlib is le ghetto
<yorickpeterse> lelelel
<yorickpeterse> I'll see myself out, again
<judofyr> thank you
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<injekt> banisterfiend: someone asked to have slop merged into stdlib, i was against it
<imperator> yorickpeterse, shoulda happened *years* ago
<injekt> plus yeah, I think it's going to be gemified.. some day
<imperator> injekt, by christmas, i'm sure
<injekt> 2023
<banisterfiend> injekt: why were u gainst it? just because it locks people into an old version?
<injekt> banisterfiend: yeah, i can't quickly push updates to it and people will have them straight away
<injekt> banisterfiend: it wouldn't have gotten merged anyway unless i removed instance_eval stuff
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<banisterfiend> injekt: really? how come? that's a rule for stdlib?
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<injekt> banisterfiend: they didn't like the 'instance_eval' magic, they would have preferred it to work like optparse (obviously slop allows that, but it promotes instance eval)
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<zzak> there have been a few requests for new libraries in stdlib
<zzak> but gemify isn't usually a stopper
<zzak> request is usually "lets add library X to replace library Y"
<injekt> I was going to patch optparse so it stored option values and you could to opts.to_hash kinda stuff like slop does but meh
<injekt> zzak: yeah
<zzak> and response is usually "why not fix library Y instead?"
<zzak> drbrain or tenderlove would be the guys to talk to about maintaining a stdlib gem
<zzak> psych and rdoc are both in stdlib and maintained as separate gems
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<imperator> this is why i love open classes
<imperator> oh, that File method that doesn't work on windows that you refuse to fix? i can make it work, and i don't need your FUCKING PERMISSION
<yorickpeterse> People use Windows?
<imperator> there's, like, 3
<yorickpeterse> poor souls must be lost
<imperator> so, 1 more than BeOS
<imperator> or Haiku, or whatever it's called now
<yorickpeterse> At least that's somewhat POSIX
<yorickpeterse> somewhat
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<imperator> posix? the standard that says path names are capped at 256 characters? that standard?
<yorickpeterse> Exactly
<yorickpeterse> Fine fine
<yorickpeterse> At least it's UNIX
<yorickpeterse> somewhat
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<imperator> it's BETTA!
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* imperator cries for days of BeOS gone by
<yorickpeterse> Hey
<yorickpeterse> Solaris
* yorickpeterse runs
* imperator doesn't get it
<yorickpeterse> Solaris was pretty shit from what I've read
<imperator> i was using it in the late 90's on an IPC
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<imperator> used it throughout my qwest days
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<imperator> sunblade 100, then a 150
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<imperator> pretty solid server OS, but as a desktop OS, took some getting used to
<imperator> CDE anyone?
<imperator> and the hardware, cripes, seriously overpriced
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<imperator> so slyphon, what's YOUR opinion on Solaris?
<ericwood> sun hardware was pretty
<ericwood> looked real nice in a server rack
<slyphon> imperator: Solaris is/was like linux's dad
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<yorickpeterse> I think this is literally the first time I hear somebody talk positive about Solaris
<slyphon> not quite as much fun as linux, but he showed up to work on time and didn't fucking flake out
<slyphon> dude
<slyphon> solaris was fucking *rock solid stable*
<ericwood> zones sound pretty cool in theory, I haven't used it though
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<workmad3> had a guy who worked here a little while ago who described solaris as 'absolutely awesome... as long as he doesn't have to touch it'
<yorickpeterse> slyphon: not sure if that's sarcasm
<slyphon> zones were great
<slyphon> no, not sarcasm
<yorickpeterse> heh
<slyphon> i would rather use SMF and zones over basically any other system
<ericwood> chrooooooooots
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<workmad3> I'm sure a well setup solaris with zones would be pretty awesome
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<workmad3> unfortunately, I've only ever seen solaris with zones set up in nightmarishly stupid configurations
<slyphon> yeah, i worked with 3 guys who knew solaris really well, i think that made a huge difference
<ericwood> but seriously, the hardware is beautiful, makes it all worth it
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<ericwood> I've also heard good things about "plumbing" or whatever they call it
<workmad3> (admittedly, I've only ever had the 'pleasure' of dealing with one solaris setup... the nightmarishly stupid one)
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<slyphon> glad to see colloquy hasn't changed
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<flujan> hello guys.
<flujan> I am reading a lot about ruby 2.0 being able to import/export using byte code. But I actually cannot see a example of this feature.
<flujan> so, how can I use it?
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<zzak> you can compile and eval iseq, also get bytecode from compiled iseq object
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<banisterfiend> zzak: isnt that possible in 1.9 too though?
<injekt> darix: ping
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<zzak> banisterfiend: iseq is in 1.9, i just linked to 2.0 docs because i recently updated them :)
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<zzak> not much has changed except maybe the output of the commands
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<zzak> and the locations stuff
<zzak> like line_trace
<havenn> flujan: I wonder if you're thinking mruby not ruby-2.0.0? https://github.com/mruby/mruby
<zzak> im not sure how you'd handle arbitrary bytecode tho
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<flujan> ruby-2.0.0
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<flujan> zzak: I can generate a iseq object on a file (filename) an execute ruby pointing to the file?
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<zzak> flujan: try it, iseq.new takes file path, or use iseq.compile_file
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<banisterfiend> how do u get raw bytecode though?
<banisterfiend> 'disasm' doenst look very raw
<zzak> to_a.last is bytecode
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<banisterfiend> zzak: not raw though, surely, it's symbols and numbers
<zzak> banisterfiend: what do you suggest?
<banisterfiend> i expect something kind of more binary-ish
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<banisterfiend> zzak: nothing, i dont think taht functionality is implemented yet
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<zzak> yeh, you want something like what python does
<zzak> it seems like that was a big feature request when 2.0 was planned last year
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<zzak> banisterfiend: i found this: http://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/6714
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<banisterfiend> who is benoit daloze? he comments on nearly every issue but i haven't seen any of his code or really know who he is
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<injekt> banisterfiend: https://github.com/eregon
<zzak> benoit is eregon, he's also mri committer
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<llaskin> https://gist.github.com/4504229 seems that scan functionality changed in 1.9.3 Can someone suggest a way to write a better regex?
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<injekt> llaskin: "(BAR a50_ FOO)" =~ /(\d+)/ && $1
<injekt> "(BAR a50_ FOO)"[/(\d+)/, 1]
<injekt> only ever use scan if you need multiple results
<chris2> /(?<a>\d+/ =~ "(BAR a50_ FOO)" # ;)
<chris2> +)
<injekt> meh
<injekt> I prefer String#[] for stuff like this
<injekt> <a> is just showing off ;)
<chris2> it makes sense if you extract multiple fields
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<llaskin> so yea I want to only extract 1 field
<llaskin> or that is 1 value
<chris2> then use []
<llaskin> a[/a(\d*)_/] returns "a50_"
<llaskin> i just want the 50?
<chris2> ,1
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<antbody> What documentation format do ruby projects use nowadays? Trying to figure out what to start using in a new project.
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<blazes816> llaskin: a.match(/a(\d*)_/).captures.first
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<apeiros_> zzak: yard, rdoc (in order of my preference)
<blazes816> llaskin: or what injeckt said: "(BAR a50_ FOO)" =~ /(\d+)/ && $1
<llaskin> blaze, [] seems to work better...
<llaskin> for my needs.
<rue|w> inckzet
<injekt> injeckt
<injekt> inkcezt
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<zzak> apeiros_: whatever makes you happy
<apeiros_> zzak: d'oh, that should have gone to antbody
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<apeiros_> antbody: yard, rdoc (in order of my preference)
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<injekt> tomdoc, rdoc, yard
<rue|w> harrydoc
<injekt> injecktzdoc
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<injekt> dirtydoc
<antbody> Was just looking at tomdoc.
<antbody> Well I'll just pick it, no huge harm done I guess :p
<apeiros_> injekt: interesting. tomdoc seems to have the syntax I wished yard had
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<injekt> antbody: the downside to tomdoc is there are no html generators for it yet, BUT rdoc 4.0 has a tomdoc plugin thanks to drbrain
<injekt> apeiros_: :)
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<antbody> Ah. Well not a huge deal breaker.
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<antbody> I'll just say that they would have been ugly anyways.
<zzak> antbody: if you dont pick rdoc i wont be your friend
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<injekt> and rdoc still generates ok docs from it http://injekt.github.com/rdoc/slop/
<antbody> Well, I can lie that I picked it!
<zzak> i will find out
<zzak> ive got a google alert for all of the rdoc alternatives
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<antbody> curses!
<yorickpeterse> injekt: haha, nobody uses tomdoc
<yorickpeterse> except GH
<injekt> lie
<injekt> i dont work at github
<yorickpeterse> You are a weird person, don't forget that
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<injekt> you're a yard zealot, you cant argue with those
<injekt> imo yard sucks balls, that's the extent of my argument
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<yorickpeterse> I wouldn't call myself a YARD zealot, I just don't see the benefit of tomdoc/rdoc over it
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<zzak> i know
<zzak> rdoc is too mainstream, right?
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<banisterfiend> zzak: how do i document return value with rdoc?
<antbody> For mainstream rules for it seemed hard to find.
<antbody> Like tomdoc had this nice page showing everything in one place.
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<banisterfiend> injekt: is this how you document return values with tomdoc? "# Returns a new instance of Slop."
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<banisterfiend> injekt: that seems kind of informal
<banisterfiend> i mean, that's not a tag, it's just free text right?
<yorickpeterse> My gripe with rdoc is that I dislike its markup for parameters and such, I also don't like the templates that are out there. My problem with Tomdoc is that its too "natural" and as such there are a 101 ways of doing things
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<zzak> banisterfiend: you can use a call-seq http://rdoc.rubyforge.org/RDoc/Markup.html#label-Method+arguments
<banisterfiend> weird..
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<zzak> rdoc is lenient when it comes to more formal ways of documenting code
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<whitequark> yorickpeterse: use yard?
<whitequark> oh you do
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<yorickpeterse> Yes
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<injekt> rails.overload
<injekt> :(
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<firefux> just curious, why is the module Kernel named Kernel?
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<zzak> because Main isn't obvious enough
<injekt> should be System
<injekt> actually any alternatives suck
<zzak> yeah
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<yorickpeterse> <3 Array#inject
<injekt> Enumerable#inject *
<injekt> Enumerable#injekt
<yorickpeterse> hurr hurr
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<apeiros_> it should be Apeiron
<apeiros_> srsly
<yorickpeterse> No
<yorickpeterse> Cat
<yorickpeterse> Cat.puts 'aww yiss'
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<yorickpeterse> wait
<yorickpeterse> Cat = Kernel # done
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<andrewvos> inkjet
<andrewvos> *
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<injekt> har
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<injekt> oO
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<shtirlic> Matz.puts "2.0"
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<alexcoomans> has anyone had segfault troubles with net & pg while using sidekiq/celluloid on the 1.9.3 series?
<alexcoomans> 3:24 PM
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