<DocScrutinizer05>
it's not, it has lots of aroma and water
<whitequark>
oh, you mean like sugar blocks. definitely.
<DocScrutinizer05>
I guess wasps have no "saliva" to even notice that white crystal is sugar
<DocScrutinizer05>
for them it's prolly looking and smeling just like sand
<whitequark>
looking? well... most insects don't rely on sight anyway
<DocScrutinizer05>
surprisingly few animals seem to be interested in sugar
<whitequark>
and those who do have such a wide range they could probably work like tiny spectrometer analysis stations
<DocScrutinizer05>
pure sugar
<whitequark>
pure sugar doesn't appear in nature, does it?
<DocScrutinizer05>
exactly
<DocScrutinizer05>
it's synthetic
<whitequark>
so then there's no evolutionary pressure
<DocScrutinizer05>
yep
<DocScrutinizer05>
once I worked in a caffe. A mouse - during the night - pierced a roundabout 100 of those 10g coffemilk plastic cups with alu lid. The mouse didn't touch the sugar bags nearby
<DocScrutinizer05>
but it ate 4 snickers. Not completely of course
<whitequark>
not even a big rat would probably manage that
<DocScrutinizer05>
it must have been too fat to walk even after the volume it ate out of those 4. I guess the mouse must have weighed double after meal
* whitequark
recalls dissection of some animals, including rats, in uni
<whitequark>
really, the most remarkable thing about the rat is the size of its balls. they're truly enormous. slightly bigger, and they'd be bigger than mine, and I don't mean scaled up wrt/ body size
<DocScrutinizer05>
LOL
<whitequark>
one of the things I best remember from the uni
<whitequark>
I've asked the professor. apparently, the male rat lives to screw, and for that it needs quite a factory of gametes
* DocScrutinizer05
idly glares at a Huawai(?) Q101 3G USB stick
<whitequark>
Huawei?
<DocScrutinizer05>
or that, or not
<DocScrutinizer05>
from TPE
<DocScrutinizer05>
got it together with a eeePC I bought there
<DocScrutinizer05>
was an offer on top of the SIM contract I got me. 100EUR or somesuch, for both
<DocScrutinizer05>
it's the size of a lipstick, a huge one
<whitequark>
yeah they usually are
<DocScrutinizer05>
(snickers) I heard several times now that bait for mousetrap best is peanutbutter
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<DocScrutinizer05>
whitequark: new c't-Hacks has some nice tesla transformers :-)
<DocScrutinizer05>
one with transformer, capacitors and spark gap. One with electron valve \o/. And I think one with mosfets?
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<wpwrak>
(vodka as coolant, plus bubbles) can't wait for the selfies ;-)
<wpwrak>
(adding sugar) the alcohol will kill the flies ...
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<roh>
wpwrak: the reason we do not use alcohol is smoking needs to be forbidden in the vicinity of the machine then...
* wpwrak
wonders whether Josephine Cochrane, inventor of the dishwasher, ever got a prize for extraordinary achievements for humanity
<roh>
also.. if it would be vodka we would have problems due to people drinking the machines stash
<wpwrak>
in russia, neither should be much of an issue :)
<DocScrutinizer05>
I still wonder how a freshly booted system (a few days old) could eat 8GB of RAM, and how processes may have 2, 3 or even 4GB of virtual size :-S http://wstaw.org/m/2014/05/26/plasma-desktopSQ1787.png
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<wpwrak>
efficient programming :)
<whitequark>
DocScrutinizer05: (virtual size) it's very simple, and in fact it actually *is* efficient programming
<whitequark>
VSZ grows if a process requests the OS to mmap large files
<whitequark>
on 64bit mmapping large files is the best way to randomly access them, because you get the OS manage the memory for you--for example, it will read the data directly into the allocated pages without any copying, and evict the pages in low (physical) memory conditions, again without the app having to do anything
<whitequark>
Sublime Text mmaps hundreds of GB, even
<whitequark>
the page tables and kernel structures consume some amount of physical memory, but it's comparatively miniscule
<whitequark>
DocScrutinizer05: otoh I really don't know what's wrong with kdeinit on your system. On mine it consumes 21M of RSS
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<DocScrutinizer05>
sorry, that's ridiculous but not a "competitor to pyra"
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<whitequark>
hmm, got some polishing paste, chromium oxide based
<whitequark>
also made the lens bi-convex by gluing the parts with epoxy
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<DocScrutinizer05>
pyra is a general purpose palmtop computer optimized for, and running, Linux as OS. It comes with some minor "compromises" regarding HID design to make it more suited for playing games on it (D-pad, ABCD buttons, dunno what else)
<wpwrak>
whitequark: now you can make your own geek glasses ;-)
<whitequark>
wpwrak: yeah, thought about it
<whitequark>
judging by the ones I have, it'd be really hard to properly create the geometry
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<pcercuei>
larsc: hey, do you have a pump for tires?