<wpwrak>
heh, i know that type. my parents had one. "early years of the 20th century" bah, well into the 1980es
<wpwrak>
solar panels are risky, though. we get rather strong winds around here. and intense hailstorms.
<wpwrak>
so fixed solar panels would get smashed about 3 times per year. unless you make them considerably stronger than a car roof. movable panels could become victims of those little tornados.
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<roh>
well... do the math. around here if your building is big enough and you need enough thermal power even small gas motors with exhaust power reuse make sense economically
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<wpwrak>
yeah, most blackouts are well below 24 hours. and the big ones are highly clustered. so a permanent installation doesn't really make sense.
<roh>
i see... well.. buy a high powered generator, sit it out on gas
<roh>
or is there a reliable natural gas grid?
<wpwrak>
possibly. so far it was reliable but i don't know at what point it may fail, too
<wpwrak>
and no, i wouldn't get a BIG one. i'm not strong enough to move around a 100 kg machine
<wpwrak>
besides, the bigger ones are shit quality
<wpwrak>
alas, cost almost 3x as much as a cheap one with similar characteristics
<roh>
big is from my perspective 5-15kw
<roh>
enough to power an normal nerd household
<roh>
basically a small 3-phase power generator with electric starter
<wpwrak>
5 kW+ is huge. not movable.
<roh>
something which could, combined with ups could turn on automatically
<roh>
sure.. 5kw is small.. think honda with a handle
<roh>
1-5
<wpwrak>
yeah, right. i'm not trying to build a cult around the power failures :)
<roh>
15 is like a small air compressor. 2 wheels and a handle
<wpwrak>
about 150-200 kg, i guess
<wpwrak>
or very very very expensive but a but lighter
<wpwrak>
already the cheap 2 kW ones are about 50 kg
<wpwrak>
7.5 kW .. 92 kg
<wpwrak>
that's the top of that range. let's see what the competition has ...
<wpwrak>
ah, here's one: 16 kV, 176 kg
<wpwrak>
but indeed, that one could also supply most of my air conditioners ;-)
<roh>
hm. the last small honda i handled we carried up stairs with 2 or 3 persons
<roh>
about 5kw, 2 phase output
<wpwrak>
2-3 persons for 50 kg that sounds about right
<roh>
shouldnt 5kw already be enough when you leave the airco out of the picture?
<roh>
that was the last big outage i remember in berlin
<roh>
about 5-7 years ago.. about 1 hour...
<wpwrak>
now, when power fails, i would either have to summon people to my place to carry the generator up to the terrace, kinda difficult if the power is out
<wpwrak>
or drag it there myself
<roh>
we took the event to start up and then service the generator... the battery was dead.. so we carried it to a car and bridged them
<DocScrutinizer05>
or ake it that big that nobody ever will move it away from terrace
<wpwrak>
2 kW should be enough for the PC and screens. that's what i'm aiming for. A/C is too far out.
<roh>
put it in a shack on the terrace
<DocScrutinizer05>
make*
<DocScrutinizer05>
I'm also looking for a nice handy 2kW
<wpwrak>
DocScrutinizer05: don't forget the elements. these things are usually not designed for prolonged outdoors use
<wpwrak>
the yamaha looks kinda nice. quiet, modern technology
<DocScrutinizer05>
meh, give it a plastic hood
<wpwrak>
tank is a bit small
<wpwrak>
plastic + wind = no plastic :)
<DocScrutinizer05>
LOL
<roh>
wpwrak: or buy a big one and sell the power to the neighbours by the kwH
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<larsc_>
quiet day
<wpwrak>
indeed
<larsc_>
must be holiday season
<wpwrak>
well, DocScrutinizer05 is probably busy with neo900, whitequark should be in the middle of the customary pre-fueling sessions, apelete may be celebrating that m-usb works, a bunch of people may be busy preparing for CCC, ...
<whitequark>
pre-fueling ?
<wpwrak>
the process where you replace bodily water with low-grade vodka, to prepare for the serious stuff of the holidays
* whitequark
sighs
<wpwrak>
sorry, russian stereotypes are just way too much fun to not make fun of them ;-)
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<whitequark>
([expletive] because it's impossible to translate while preserving the fine details of meaning)
<whitequark>
dialogue after the impact: "[expletive] awesome... [idiomatic expletive meaning "copulating cats"], [expletive]... we're swimming... wow, [expletive]... where are we swimming? to the shore, [expletive]. straight? to the shore. don't touch the steering wheel"
<wpwrak>
kewl :) i love the coolness with which they react to all those accidents
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<wpwrak>
zrafa: btw, are you having any luck with taking to the freescale chips ?
<zrafa>
wpwrak: I have not started yet
<zrafa>
wpwrak: we will try with a parallel port . But first we will do some tiny board to expose the pins as well
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<wpwrak>
hmm, better use ben + ubb
<zrafa>
wpwrak: I was thinking in that as well, tempted because the 3.3v from ubb :)
<zrafa>
wpwrak: but we did not do much yet. Lot of bored stuff with students now at the end of the year :(
<zrafa>
(papers, forms, exams)
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<nickoe>
wpwrak: meh, I have forgot how to use fped again...
<nickoe>
I can't make it make a pad without failing