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<e2580>
anyone interested in seeing an open source hardware encrypted storage device ?
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<e2580>
anyone interested in seeing an open source hardware encrypted storage device ?
<lindi->
e2580: I think we already talked about this.
<lindi->
e2580: maybe ping me when the source code is available
<e2580>
maybe. been here a few times :)
<GNUtoo-desktop>
why not simply using cryptsetup + LUKS + GNU/Linux + Coreboot ?
<GNUtoo-desktop>
assuming coreboot works well, the setup works pretty well
<wpwrak>
e2580: i wonder if you realize that the audience here is pretty static. endlessly repeating the same message will only get people annoyed.
<e2580>
luks/truecrypt etc require you to enter the password into the computer and the aeskey is in ram
<e2580>
the crpytx2 is completely independent from the computer
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<GNUtoo-desktop>
well you can use luks with a key too
<GNUtoo-desktop>
like --key-file
<GNUtoo-desktop>
or something like that
<GNUtoo-desktop>
*cryptsetup
<e2580>
and that is still in ram on the computer, same as if you typed in a password
<e2580>
you can easily dump the computers ram and pull the aes key from it
<e2580>
as well as other methods
<rz2k>
e2580: do you realize that this channel is about open hardware and people here kind of know that 'It is in ram' is marketing crap until a good proof of concept attack available
<rz2k>
?
<larsc>
actually there are some good proof of concept attacks available
<rz2k>
like aes steal thru micro fluctuations of power consumption?
<rz2k>
that can be applied to the hardware key itself, so it is pointless :p
<rz2k>
s/pointless/pointless to have the key/
<qi-bot>
rz2k meant: "that can be applied to the hardware key itself, so it is pointless to have the key :p"
<e2580>
this is not a hardware key, it is a complete self contained hardware encryption device.
<e2580>
all encryption is done on the device
<e2580>
the mcu also has ecm to prevent dpa attacks
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<GNUtoo-desktop>
e2580, then what happens if the device get stolen?
<GNUtoo-desktop>
since it has no password protection.....
<e2580>
have you seen the device or video ?
<GNUtoo-desktop>
beside MCU are not powerfull => easy cracking
<GNUtoo-desktop>
altough it depend on how stuff is implemented
<e2580>
^
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<GNUtoo-desktop>
how did you get the FIPS certification?
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<rz2k>
e2580: you should do paper/pdf presentation of whats happening. I have no flash installed, so no video for me. also journalists copy-paste press releases more than videos.
<GNUtoo-desktop>
is there source code available?
<e2580>
not fips certified, fips compliant
<GNUtoo-desktop>
ok
<rz2k>
your only way to go big is get into news feeds, spamming opensource places with yourself will only hurt.
<e2580>
since the project is open source, its nto practical to do fipts cert
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<e2580>
each revision would require recertification
<GNUtoo-desktop>
so there is source code?
<e2580>
source code will be available soon. we are finishng the hidden data feature and cleaning up the code
<GNUtoo-desktop>
ok
<e2580>
firmware is gpl3
<e2580>
hardware we are still looking for license
<GNUtoo-desktop>
ok
<e2580>
it will all be fully open source
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