<wolfspraul>
kristianpaul: he, all sorts of attempts to write 'documents'
<wolfspraul>
but somehow we can never finish them...
<kristianpaul>
"sharism for expensive tools, scopes, spectrum analyzers, protocol analyzers, laser cutters, test chambers, x-ray machines. copyleft hardware company should be like hacklab. " i like
<kristianpaul>
"access to EVBs, prototypes, unused parts. Loan stuff, ask it back, or after finish send to the next person. Be careful with stuff, keep everything in good shape. " good to know i'll keep in shape ;)
<kristianpaul>
btw
<kristianpaul>
can you mail  or publish your slides from cparty?
<kristianpaul>
i'll give a small talk about copyleft hardware this friday
<wolfspraul>
sure it's still not uploaded because I still think about the file format
<kristianpaul>
i just want check yous slides in case i see soemthing usefull to take from
<wolfspraul>
I made the presentation in scribus
<wolfspraul>
can I just email you the pdf?
<kristianpaul>
sure
<wolfspraul>
unfortunately scribus doesn't have a container file format
<kristianpaul>
win show 23
<kristianpaul>
oops
<wolfspraul>
so it's like 20 files or so
<wolfspraul>
I didnt' know whether I should upload a tarball...
<kristianpaul>
files?
<kristianpaul>
why not a single pdf?
<wolfspraul>
I can send you a single PDF
<wolfspraul>
sure
<wolfspraul>
but that's not (easily) editable
<kristianpaul>
i just need text, can i copy text from it?
<kristianpaul>
or wel i can install scribus
<kristianpaul>
(just realizing this kind of sofware exists)
<wolfspraul>
scribus is actually pretty good for presentations
<wolfspraul>
I played with lyx once, that was very painful
<wolfspraul>
inkscape - no - way too much focused on graphics
<wolfspraul>
but scribus works, for me
<wolfspraul>
let me email you the pdf first
<wolfspraul>
if you need more I'll either email or upload it
<wolfspraul>
it's 100% cc-by-sa or cc-by licensed, of course. do with it whatever you like.
<kristianpaul>
thanks
<kristianpaul>
sure i can give back what i'm working on (in spanish for now)
<wolfspraul>
rafa: do you know what happened to Werner and his disks?
<kristianpaul>
hmm
<kristianpaul>
remenbers do backup more often
<wolfspraul>
I haven't seen him offline like this in years, unless he was traveling from Buenos Aires to Taipei :-)
<kristianpaul>
i wonder thats is that kind of situation when checking a disk ends in reinstalling sofware :/
<kristianpaul>
hope no
<kristianpaul>
no no scribus not for me, what that uglt interface..
<kristianpaul>
scared
<kristianpaul>
support alternative/recyling/non-commercial projects
<kristianpaul>
what kidn of support?
<kristianpaul>
or exampler for NC
<kristianpaul>
..
<wolfspraul>
what? can't understand you :-)
<wolfspraul>
are you still talking about scribus?
<kristianpaul>
i was
<kristianpaul>
latelly about the Social Conttract
<kristianpaul>
nv words about scribus ;)
<wolfspraul>
if you don't like something in that doc, just edit
<kristianpaul>
weed a sustem to share hardware as books may be?
<kristianpaul>
sure i will i just dint understand that line
<kristianpaul>
s/sustem/system
<wolfspraul>
I think these kinds of document will almost write themselves, after we have 2 prerequisites:
<wolfspraul>
1. products that are attractive to regular people (not just Linux hackers)
<wolfspraul>
2. a group of people that can independently make a living, or at least some extra income, from copyleft hardware
<wolfspraul>
once we have those two writing a few docs to explain our rules, principles, beliefs, etc. will be a no-brainer
<wolfspraul>
writing them now is very hard because many things are too hypothetical
<wolfspraul>
so I rather do some practical work :-)
<rafa>
wolfspraul: interesting.. I did not read about that werner disk problem.. no idea.. let me check with a sms ;)
<wolfspraul>
yeah
<wolfspraul>
send a 'pad on his shoulder' sms
<rafa>
sent
<kristianpaul>
rafa: any ideas to translate/interpretate the word Sharism to spanish
<kristianpaul>
i'm not sure if caridad works very well..
<kristianpaul>
cause is not just about that..
<kristianpaul>
is not share, so not compartir
<kristianpaul>
so the ism
<kristianpaul>
compartimiento ? xD
<rafa>
yeah.. hard..
<kristianpaul>
:/
<rafa>
kristianpaul: I think that David or Victor would find a proper word :) they often write/translate a lot of work using english and spanish at the same time
<kristianpaul>
tuxbrain !!
<kristianpaul>
ahh he is not her.
<kristianpaul>
yeah i'll ask then tomorrow
<rafa>
"Sharism is a concept initiated by Isaac Mao. It's presented as "Mind Revolution": The more you give, the more you get. The more you share, the more you are shared."
<kristianpaul>
i can said the last in spanish
<kristianpaul>
:)
<rafa>
that is something at least ;)
<rafa>
but I am not sure that Isaac Mao is the guy we want to read about sharism
<rafa>
Libera tu mente :)
<kristianpaul>
:D
<wolfspraul>
wpwrak: still alive?
<wolfspraul>
that sounded bad yesterday...
<wpwrak>
wolfspraul: somwhat ... pc still has troubles.
<wolfspraul>
hmm
<wolfspraul>
lost any valuable data or setups?
<wpwrak>
one of my disks started throwing errors. so i shut the box down and examined everything. replaced the power supply (that was pending already) and the disk.
<wolfspraul>
ahh
<wolfspraul>
I remember many years ago, I had a RAID array somewhere
<wolfspraul>
and was literally working full-time on error after error