00:05 <Joerg-Neo900> a two party system hardly _could_ be democracy, I guess

21:15 <ravelo> my phone just died

21:15 <ravelo> so i'm forced to use my n900 now

21:15 <ravelo> really nice phone

21:15 <ravelo> browser is very slow though

21:15 <ravelo> any ideas to speed it up?

21:23 <Oksana> Hmm, check its addons? Like, I have disable AdBlock, because I thought that AdBlock may slow the browser down

21:23 <xman> Hey Welcome back to the n900, you should be able to find a lot of info on the talk.maemo.org forum. I think there's even post deticated to just that or wiki pages. Anyway have fun on your old new phone ;)

21:25 <xman> Just don't use the speed patch, http://shootspeak.com/2010/12/05/nokia-n900-performance-tweaks/

21:25 <ravelo> does overclocking make any sense?

21:26 <ravelo> Oksana, which browser do you use? stock or firefox?

21:26 <xman> yup, I used it. But you just don't want to pin it for long periods

21:26 <ravelo> why not?

21:26 <xman> Stock is the fastest, but out dated.

21:26 <Oksana> Stock. I have Fennec installed, but MicroB is much faster than Fennec

21:28 <xman> pinning you OC n900 will burn it out eventually. Or more than likely reduce it life span. Heat is the enemy of circuit boards.

21:28 <ravelo> lifespan is actually not so important

21:28 <Joerg-Neo900> hi ravelo! see http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools#AFTER_FLASHING

21:28 <ravelo> I hope to change to neo900 someday ;)

21:28 <xman> Poor n900 :D

21:28 <Joerg-Neo900> might have some useful parts

21:29 <ravelo> Thanks Joerg

21:29 <Joerg-Neo900> ~omap-oc

21:29 <infobot> from memory, omap-oc is http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2010-08-01.log.html#t2010-08-01T22:16:05 read that!, or and this http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2011-03-11.log.html#t2011-03-11T03:04:11, or http://electronics.stackexchange.com/a/156130

21:30 <Joerg-Neo900> fennec is way slower than genuine firefox iirc

21:31 <Joerg-Neo900> re OC it doesn't help much, the bottleneck particularly with browser is RAM

21:32 <xman> Also using host block can help with speed. Your browser will slow down from all the JS that is used now compared to when the n900 came out.

21:33 <xman> Yeah once you get past a few windows or apps it will start slowing down for sure. But I feel the different in the UI and opeing apps .. at least till I hit the that memory wall.

21:36 <xman> infobot: good info, didn't know that higher frequency & voltage are more important than heat. Thx

21:36 <infobot> Good info, didn't know that higher frequency & voltage are more important than heat. Thx, good! Have a cookie... oh no! The cookie jar is dry!

21:36 <xman> haha .. oops

21:40 <Joerg-Neo900> ~thumb

21:40 <infobot> hmm... cssu-thumb is <Doc_Scrutinizer05> [thumb2 microb] indeed seems to render like mad, subjectively, or http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1220597, or http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Thumb

21:44 <Joerg-Neo900> the major point of thumb is: with a "normal" maemo, your system might have a *free* RAM of ~40MB before starting microb. With thumb that might double

21:45 <Joerg-Neo900> o/

21:45 <Oksana> >> bottleneck particularly with browser is RAM << Why does MicroB use RAM? Would blocking images, third-party js, etcetera make it easier?

21:46 <ravelo> i also started thinking about making available more RAM for the browser

21:51 <ravelo> "RAM – Yes we already know about the 256MB physical RAM and 768MB virtual. According to Michael, the N900 ends up with 50MB after boot, but hold your horses there. Michael explains that unlike Symbian, free RAM is half as important, as with virtual RAM you’ve got about 800MB free which means you won’t get to see out of memory errors. I tried opening up all the apps on the N900 myself and it handled them so smoothly."

21:52 <ravelo> http://mynokiablog.com/2009/09/30/huge-nokia-n900-and-maemo-5-preview-by-mysymbian-com/

21:52 <ravelo> sry, long quote...