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<shangul>
On ARM, Common Lisp code is at least about 4x slower than C. I tried SBCL, CLISP, GCL and CCL.
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<beach>
Good morning everyone!
<beach>
shangul: That is most likely due to the maintainers of the Common Lisp implementations spending less time on optimizing the code generation for ARM than the time they spent on x86.
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<shangul>
beach, Good morning :)
<shangul>
beach, You might be right...
<beach>
The people working on C and C++ compilers have truly huge amounts of money and a huge number of people working on that stuff. SBCL has maybe 5 people working as volunteers.
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<SAL9000>
Silly question, perhaps, but has there been work on porting something like the Common Lisp pretty-printing system to C++?
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<dlowe>
The intersection of people who care about Common Lisp pretty printing and the people who want to do a complex, involved pretty-printing system in C++ is vanishingly small.
<dlowe>
Thank goodness SPICE lisp had money and people for a while
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<Bike>
we haven't ported the lisp pretty printing system to C++, since if we want to pretty print from C++ we can just call the lisp functions.
<Bike>
also the lisp pretty printer is based pretty heavily on both special variables and runtime type discrimination, neither of which are all that C++
<tychoish>
Bike are you a clasp human?
<Bike>
i am a developer on clasp.
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<edgar-rft>
you "only" need to implement Common Lisp in C++ and you have pretty-printing for free :-)
<tychoish>
Nice! (sorry, I'm newish here so I don't really know people yet, and Ididn't mean to speak for you, just seemed like the right connections, seems like a cool project. :))
<Bike>
no worries.
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<SAL9000>
dlowe, Bike: long story short, $work involves maintaining a very complex system where I end up missing the CL pretty-print features. I was thinking that maybe someone had already done something similar that I could get inspiration from.
<Bike>
which features do you have in mind? because when i think of the pretty printer i think of things like indenting LET blocks correctly, which you're probably not worried about