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<libv>
crap, and here i was hoping we would finally reach 40% NDHed
<ssvb>
libv: what happened?
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<libv>
new device got stuck into our wiki :)
<libv>
we're at 104, of which 40 are fully done
<libv>
will be 41 once i finally get my japanese crimptool
<libv>
so i was just mumbling, but that wasn't too serious :)
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<paulk-aldrin>
hey
<paulk-aldrin>
got a new A20 tablet in the mail today!
<libv>
:)
<libv>
bad for my stats :p
<libv>
or good, as you're pretty well versed in ndhing :)
<paulk-aldrin>
it has 2 sdcard slots (one internal on the PCB) and one external!
<paulk-aldrin>
yeah I'll NDH it
<libv>
heh, you really go out of your way to find weird hw
<paulk-aldrin>
I'm still stuck at the NAND thing btw
<libv>
yeah, i know
<paulk-aldrin>
and it has an unusual realtek wifi chip, that has bluetooth too
<libv>
cool
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<rds>
A80 - looks like the sales of Dev boards have been outstanding!
<rds>
at the price of $350, it was a non brainer!
<wens>
huh?
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<rds>
A few months back, I posted here that for these boards to get to the success of CB1/CB2, they had to be selling for max of $39
<rds>
it seems the market is always right!
<wens>
well.... i did buy one
<wens>
:p
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<rds>
wens: you should have given one for free, for your outstandning contribution to the platform, if not more!
<wens>
they should've asked earlier
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<rds>
they never ask anything, since they simply ignore this communnity
<rds>
look how the enthusiasm of the community is down
<rds>
the CedarX RE front is simply dead!
<rds>
the KMS driver is totally stopped, until LIBV complete the 1025 new devices that don't work right or will be out of the market in the next 120 days
<rds>
Kernel 3.4 is totally dead!
<rds>
mainline was getting some track, but has slowdown a lot lately
<wens>
i wouldn't go that far
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<wens>
slowdown is mostly because everyone is busy
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<rds>
ok, busy is good. Time for me to check again in 60 days.
<wens>
mripard and bbrezill1 work on at91 at $work
<wens>
ccaione is working on meson lately
<wens>
libv... well he's all over the place :p
<rds>
well, Allwinner should be the one paying big bucks for these good developers to be improving the platform!
<Nazcafan>
there was this SOC intern who produced an impressive work for DMA, is this going to be mainlined or are some parts missing?
<libv>
rds: that's never going to happen
<libv>
allwinner is just another cheap chinese/taiwanese shop
<libv>
the last thing they will do is hire good people to do good work
<wens>
libv: ah, only chinese :p
<libv>
i have dealt with the taiwanese a decade ago
<rds>
they are very short sighted
<libv>
so are we, buying their products.
<rds>
it is not every where you can get developers of the caliber of the main folks of this community!
<wens>
to be fair, mediatek hires a lot of talent, and pays well too
<wens>
libv: i'm hoping htc doesn't go down the path of via...
<libv>
htc is via
<libv>
or better, the other way around these days
<libv>
chen family
<wens>
well that's one way to put it :p
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<libv>
i think it's different parts of the chen family running different businesses
<libv>
but still
<wens>
it's the wang family actually
<rds>
with the exception of all "crap tablets", can anyone enumerate a good product using All winner SOCs ?
<ssvb>
wens: being open source friendly is becoming fashionable nowadays :)
<wens>
ssvb: i heard upper management is still resisting the idea :p
<MY123>
rds: Allwinner does have a worst SoC (A10 and A20 graphics-wise) and A31 in drivers)
<wens>
my guess is that the requirement is driven by their partners, such as Google
<MY123>
I'm waiting the A90 without a graphics IP...
<ssvb>
MY123: worst SoC for what purpose? for android?
<wens>
MY123: A10/A20 graphics-wise?
<rds>
"worst" is relative!
<MY123>
ssvb: For running Fifa 14...
<rds>
R-pi has a very poor SOC, but the platform is very sucessful
<MY123>
rds: Very poor? Just some docs missing.
<rds>
it is not about the SOC features alone, but how you organize a community around your plarform
<MY123>
rds: Did you ever saw Eric Anholt's work?
<rds>
my123: I meant poor when compared with AW and other more capable SOC's.
<MY123>
h
<rds>
No, please provide a link!
<ssvb>
MY123: Fifa 14? I guess, we have very different requirements and use cases :)
<MY123>
rds: For GPGPU, the Pi is the only cheap choice.
* wens
is expecting libv to say sth about eric
<ssvb>
MY123: rpi has a very slow cpu, and has compatibility issues by being not armv7
<MY123>
ssvb: I just did run it for benchmarking. Even the first Galaxy Tab did better,...
<rds>
FIFA-14 has been a painful experience for me! -please don't talk about that
<MY123>
ssvb: Slow CPU, I agree. (But there is strong GPGPU potential)
<libv>
wens: :)
<libv>
he fucked up modesetting for all of us
<rds>
rpi is just a single dev board and no tablets, but the community is very big and orgniazed
<MY123>
(An SHA-256 implementation is available)
<ssvb>
MY123: GPGPU is a gimmick, which never took off the ground yet (except for some niche uses)
<wens>
like mining for bitcoins? :)
<libv>
rds: and noisy, and religious, ready to seriously slander those who try to correct the sometimes broken rpi marketing
<ssvb>
MY123: it was somewhat relevant for bitcoin, but not anymore
<libv>
ssvb: it's always been a niche afaict
<libv>
ssvb: but a very high margin one
<libv>
which is why it has been so important
<libv>
renderscript was an attempt to make that better
<libv>
but it does not seem to have taken off that much
<MY123>
wens: And verifing hashes faster
<ssvb>
libv: iirc, I have seen some news about OpenCL for libreoffice, people are trying to find some use for it
<wens>
verifying hashes? who does that all day?
<libv>
ssvb: heh, did you laugh when you read about it?
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<libv>
who wrote that presentation?
<libv>
and was he trying to stay relevant in the mainframe shop that is suse?
<libv>
before he ran off to collabora?
<MY123>
Collabora...
<ssvb>
also I think AMD (?) developers tried to contribute OpenCL optimizations to libjpeg-turbo, but it did not end up well (it was buggy and slower than the CPU)
<MY123>
ssvb: and ffmpeg
<ssvb>
libv: Collabora is making a lot of noise nowadays, I guess that's important for their business
<MY123>
Collabora is just a company which tries to make money
<MY123>
/join #wayland
<libv>
ssvb: i am still not entirely sure about what happend with the suse openoffice team and them running to collabora
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<libv>
iirc, it was about supporting more than just the really big customers
<libv>
suse is really good at not taking money
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<paulk-aldrin>
regarding that NAND issue that I have, it can now read the partitions table correctly and has a few successful reads, but it fails when reading the last 8 bytes/sectors/blocks (?)…
<paulk-aldrin>
especially: <3>nand_transfer: R 14942200 8 0xdee82000
<libv>
paulk-aldrin: this nand code is such a pain
<paulk-aldrin>
and <3>SYSCALL do_sync_read(): aio_read returned with -4
<paulk-aldrin>
libv, I don't like it either…
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<paulk-aldrin>
libv, merging the new code I found isn't an easy task either, given all the commits that were added on top of the original sun5i import
<libv>
paulk-aldrin: :(
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<ssvb>
arokux2: hans has just posted some usb fixes for u-boot, which should fix usb keyboards support :)
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<paulk-aldrin>
huh, looks like I made one step forward
<paulk-aldrin>
u32 -> u64 at places
<paulk-aldrin>
now it mounts but provides unreliable data