<hno>
oliv3r, the interview questions thread did reach Allwinner somehow, and they did respond by agreeing that they absolutely need to be more active in the communiy.
<hno>
Gah.. Merrii did publish an A80 SDK some days ago (26/9), but the download link is taken offline already.
<hno>
Smells like AW cannot make up their mind on if development on A80 is allowed or not.
<hno>
with both Cubie and Merrii having to take SDK downloads offline.
<ssvb>
libv: this Simos guy just played the "good cop" role in communication with AW (and by doing so, he kind of stole this role from oliv3r), and you are our "bad cop" since a long time ago ;-)
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<ssvb>
libv: as hno says, nothing bad really happened, in fact this is actually a good progress
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<ssvb>
FWIW, I had been contacted by Simos and offered an A80 board, but decided not to take this offer
<ssvb>
even if it is "free", I guess that I would still have to pay VAT and have unnecessary hassle with customs formalities...
<hno>
Was delivered without any hassles here.
<ssvb>
sent from China?
<hno>
Yes, with DHL.
<ssvb>
what was the declared price?
<hno>
50 USD.
<hno>
A80 development board / Sample of development board.
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<ssvb>
maybe that's below the VAT threshold :)
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<hno>
Maybe.
<ssvb>
anyway, this board does not offer anything really interesting to me, I have had a Cortex-A15 based device since 2012 (Chromebook)
<ssvb>
and PowerVR is meh
* ssvb
already has way too many devboards and devices, more than half of them are just collecting dust and never used for anything
<hno>
This is my first A15. And also first with >2 cores. Fully agree PoverVR, but I do not really care for graphics support. Had hoped for SATA but sadly missing from this board even if the CPU is rumored to have SATA support.
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<hno>
hi hipboi!
<hramrach_>
hno: hope you get better luck with the optimus than there was with the chromebooks :)
<hno>
Lets see what Allwinner & Merrii responds. Hope to have some response by end of the coming week.
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<Gerwin_J>
hno: Merrii put every time a80 online and offline
<Gerwin_J>
a80 sdk
<Gerwin_J>
Merrii send me download link on 27 august
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<Gerwin_J>
and on september 3 i had also a link
<Gerwin_J>
both don't work more
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<Gerwin_J>
i have introduce Pillar to this IRC
<Pillar>
Thanks Gerwin
<Gerwin_J>
He is A80 engineer at PCduino
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<miandonmenmian>
how to ignore SD on bootup time? i'm trying to use the SD card as storage, not the OS. But my board seems to be looking for the fel file instead of jumping to internal nand
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<esperegu>
clean and updated install and I have no idea howto 'duplicate the compiler switches'. Anyone knows howto solve this? thx!
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<hramrach_>
miandonmenmian: if the card does not have valid u-boot the board should boot from nand
<hramrach_>
try reformatting erasing the first 1MB completely
<miandonmenmian>
hramrach_: thanks, the first 1MB or the card?
<hramrach_>
yes, 1mb should suffice
<hramrach_>
normally the data partition starts at 1mb and the bootloader is before that
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<wens>
oliv3r: i bought mine after they dropped the price
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<wens>
hramrach_: odroid has hub+lan in one chip, like r-pi
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<oliv3r>
wens: aight :)
<hramrach_>
yes, not so nice
<hramrach_>
but it has 2 USB3 ports which is about enough to add the missing hardware bits
<hramrach_>
and it has those current and temperature probes which is unique thing in itself. well, if they work with any reliability on mainline kernel
<hramrach_>
so would be nice to play with but not willing to pay that much for a board for which I have no immediate use
<hramrach_>
I have enough boards that I only run to test kernel patches from time to time
<oliv3r>
mripard: i thought we couldn't do 'defines' in the dts files, but I see TEGRA_PIN_PULL_UP in the tegra03-cardhu.dtsi, what's that?
<mripard>
defines.
<wens>
rc7.... oh well
<oliv3r>
mripard: so we shouldn't do them or we cannot do them
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<mripard>
oliv3r: none of the above
<mripard>
we can, and for some stuffs, we should
<oliv3r>
mripard: so what about our <0> stuff on pull-up/pull-down/drive-strength?
<oliv3r>
mripard: or rather, is the tegra30 a good example to follow? ( i was looking at something completly different there just curious is all)
<mripard>
oliv3r: if you let aside their clocks, yes, it's a pretty good example to follow
<mripard>
and yes, pinctrl pullup/down are a pretty good example of where we could use defines
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<oliv3r>
mripard: aight, I may do a patch then :)
<oliv3r>
mripard: if that's okay with you
<oliv3r>
libv: the only thing that puzzles me, for A20, the manual SHRUNK in size ... A10 significantly grew, A13 nearly doubled in size, but A20 got smaller :S
<esperegu>
anybody can help me with compiling mythtv ? ^^^
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<oliv3r>
libv: where A13 is still the biggest of all :)
<oliv3r>
esperegu: did you try #bananapi or #mythtv?
<esperegu>
oliv3r: yes
<oliv3r>
good :)
<oliv3r>
good luck :)
<esperegu>
oliv3r: it seems to be compiler related as you can see in the link
<esperegu>
but I have no idea :-(
<mripard>
oliv3r: I'd need to do one anyway, whoever's first I guess :)
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<wens>
and so the simplefb thread goes on
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<oliv3r>
esperegu: bit this is #linux-sunxi, we're about kernel dev etc, not really your generic compiler problem fixer
<oliv3r>
wens: que?
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<esperegu>
oliv3r: when u think the vdpau support will be extended?
<oliv3r>
esperegu: as time permits or as patches flow in
<wigyori>
oliv3r: for #bananapi, libv is in the process of taking it over ;P
<esperegu>
yes. thats why I cannot ask there
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<wigyori>
esperegu: you could ask, but again, that's not an official support channel
<wigyori>
and likely we wouldn't have been able to help you there
<wigyori>
what you could do though, is go to the lemaker forums
<wigyori>
lots of experienced devs there *cough*
<esperegu>
wigyori: already did
<esperegu>
wigyori: lol
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<rmax>
I received a new variant of the q8h today that comes with Android 4.4.2. Already added it to the list on the wiki page.
<oliv3r>
wigyori: roflmao
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<wens>
rmax: could you do a few photos of the board?
<wens>
mripard: we might need to add reference counting (like the clock api) for reset controls for a80
<wens>
though without some docs, it's hard to tell
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<mripard>
wens: why ? is there some shared reset lines?
<mripard>
I don't know if it would be appropriate
<mripard>
what would happen if someone calls the reset function, and there's another user in use ?
<mripard>
reset both? none?
<oliv3r>
wens: what simplefb thread?
<mripard>
oliv3r: *the* simplefb thread
<wens>
mripard: looks like shared reset lines, yeah
<wens>
mripard: but as i said, without docs it's hard to tell
<mripard>
between what IPs?
<oliv3r>
mripard: duh!
<wens>
mripard: subcomponents of CSI
<wens>
and also MIPI stuff iirc
<oliv3r>
uart5 is giving me crappy noise :S
<oliv3r>
doubt that's a driver issue?
<wens>
just what i saw in the clock headers, didn't check the drivers
<mripard>
wens: :S
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<wens>
i doubt we'll get to that... we don't have csi drivers for any socs
<libv>
oliv3r: for radeonhd emmes used a tool to turn pdfs to text, and then he turned that into register headers, so that we could diff things
<libv>
oliv3r: also, a13 the biggest, wasn't that the chip with the least features?
<libv>
wigyori: you forgot to add that i am going to assign this to the other linux-sunxi channel owners as well, and then have chanserv keep a fitting topic set without any further intervention
<libv>
rmax: board pics!
<libv>
rmax: and welcome :)
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<libv>
so there is a red optimus board now?
<libv>
wens his board was black/blue
<rmax>
re board pics: I don't have a good enough camera at hand at the moment, but will add them later.
<libv>
rmax: k
<rmax>
The two pads for the serial line look very similar to the photo on the wiki page, but the rest is quite different from V2 and V5.
<libv>
i think hramrach_ owns the v1.0 but he apparently did not make any board photos
<libv>
perhaps we should have a new device page for these last two, perhaps not
<hramrach_>
I did make some board photos bu there is no room for them on the current page
<hramrach_>
they are not very good quality, too
<rmax>
libv: Can still split the page if 1.x turn out to be too different from V2 and V5 to handle them on one.
<rmax>
hramrach_: Is the space on these pages limited in any way? ;)
<wens>
libv: red one was from allwinner press release iirc
<hramrach_>
there are 3 devices already but only 1 set of photos
<wens>
libv: turn pdfs to text... might not work, some of the pdfs were scrambled i think
<rmax>
But some of the photos are titled V2 and V5.
<hramrach_>
well, the page layout expects one device. You can update it to have more sections but then you still miss one set of photos
<libv>
rmax: yeah, wait and see
<hramrach_>
oh, so they are somehow mixed
<rmax>
Maybe the photo section should be subsectioned by board revision or the photos should be moved to the existing revision sections.
<libv>
hramrach_: add sections
<libv>
the exterior stays the same on these devices anyway
<libv>
this case design has lived for a long long time already
<hramrach_>
mine is blue ;-)
<hramrach_>
yes, there are a13 tablet in that case
<libv>
they come in like a dozen colours
<rmax>
Mine is anthracite although I ordered black. ;)
<libv>
hramrach_: i own 2 a13 q8 devices
<hramrach_>
that's all the same to Chinese. just saved on pigment ;-)
<libv>
they are fully the same except for the motherboard
<hramrach_>
the a23 q8 I have has some good parts. Like the WiFi actually connects. And there is bluetooth
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<hramrach_>
on hte inet 86vs they must have bothed something with the WiFi. the antenna looks the same as on the q8 but it pretty much won't connect anywhere
<rmax>
hramrach_: But as I understand the RDA5990P page, there is only limited open source driver support for that chip at the moment, right?
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<hramrach_>
there is limited opensource support for a23
<libv>
hramrach_: that bit can change
<hramrach_>
and then we will know how the rda driver work
<libv>
when someone takes it upon himself to fill out the A23_Manual_build_howto
<rmax>
Is there anything I can help with, given that there is another hackweek ahead at SUSE?
<hramrach_>
for me a23 kernel is stuck somewhere in early init
<libv>
rmax: we have the SDK
<rmax>
... and given that I have only limited ARM knowledge up to now.
<libv>
we just need to figure out how to use it properly
<hramrach_>
and we are missing some bits - like memory controller configuration
<libv>
and then get the kernel and uboot trees imported in our repositories
<libv>
perhaps collect patched boot0s into sunxi-boards, or write up a tool to patch up boot0
<libv>
and great.
<libv>
the simplefb discussion fired off again
<hramrach_>
yeah, new round XD
<libv>
why don't they just call it rpifb or denialfb or something
<libv>
because clearly it is not allowed to be used for anything else
<rmax>
OK, I'll try to work on that during hackweek - with your baking if you don't mind.
<hramrach_>
where is that SuSe thing?
<libv>
rmax: we are here
<libv>
hramrach_: everywhere where suse employees are
<libv>
hramrach_: they had the first late june 2007, when me and egbert were hunting an apartment for yours truly, and when the other two X guys just got a 5k budget from amd for buying Radeon graphics cards :)
<hramrach_>
so not open but only for SuSe people?
<libv>
hramrach_: it's basically a week of worktime for any project an employee feels like
<hramrach_>
ok
<rmax>
Everyone can participate, but only SUSE employees will get paied for it. ;)
<libv>
hramrach_: so it does not make sense for people who don't work at suse :)
<hramrach_>
yeah
<hramrach_>
well, it might make sense if they work in an accessible place to stop by
<hramrach_>
but since it's not an open event it might be somewhat awkward
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<rmax>
We've had external participants in the past, IIRC both remote and local.
<libv>
in april 2013, they had an arm hackweek in one of the conference rooms, awafaa and i turned up as well
<libv>
other than that, it's just people sitting at their desks doing other things than usual
<hramrach_>
if you have some binary guru it might be worthwhile to learn some tricks in matching sources to blobs you receive
<hramrach_>
because we have u-boot sources with data structure which is prefilled with something bogus
<hramrach_>
and presumably vendor ships binaries compiled from similar source with the data filled to match the board
<libv>
hramrach_: suse people are not binrary gurus either
<hramrach_>
but ever since DOS and hiew the only binary tool I used was ld, nm and strings
<libv>
rmax is good with electronics, he no doubt has a 3.3v uart module lying around
<libv>
and he will manage to attach things properly, i'm sure
<hramrach_>
and since the SPL is cooked for the eGON code to recognize it as bootloader the standar elf tools do not recognize it anymore
<libv>
for everything else, he will probably sit here and ask good questions
<rmax>
I even already attached the uart module to the Q8H (on the USB side).
<libv>
:)
<libv>
rmax: seems like you are all set for hackweek :)
<hramrach_>
you have one with uart?
<hramrach_>
lucky :)
<libv>
hramrach_: not so on v1.0?
<rmax>
... because my plan is to turn this tablet into a DMX controller once I have Linux running on it.
<hramrach_>
no uart. the preinstalled image is set to use SD uart
<libv>
rmax: hope you only need that by summer :p
<rmax>
I haven't attached the module to the A23's UART yet, just plugged it into the tablet's USB to see if it recognizes the PL2303.
<libv>
if you have an urgent short term need, tell me
<libv>
but i doubt it will be short term
<libv>
conrad will deliver a few fitting jst-ph connectors tomorrow
<libv>
so if you want to, i can crimp two instead of one
<rmax>
libv: I didn't want to access the tablet through the PL2303, I wanted to see whether the Android kernel has support for it (it doesn't), so that I can send DMX data out of the USB UART.
<libv>
you will have to access it if you want this thing running :0
<rmax>
I know.
<rmax>
So, serial console is a must, I take it? And also JTAG?
<libv>
jtag is not that necessary, but this module does provide it
<hramrach_>
currently a23 does not work so the console is a must
<hramrach_>
when there is something working it will be optional
<rmax>
And that JTAG module fits somewhere on the Q8H board?
<hramrach_>
the SD card slot
<rmax>
ah
<rmax>
And what gets plugged to the other end?
<libv>
rmax: pl2303 or so
<hramrach_>
the PL2303
<libv>
rmax: UART howto :)
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<rmax>
I thought for UART I need the two solder points next to the CPU.
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<hramrach_>
if you have them it's better
<hramrach_>
because hten you have an uart *and* SD slot
<libv>
rmax: _we_ prefer using the sd card for other things than uart :)
<rmax>
Well, there are two points located very similar to the photos on the Q8H page.
<libv>
yes, that is probably the uart which is not multiplexed with sd
<hramrach_>
what wifi chip do you have?
<rmax>
same as V1.0
<libv>
hramrach_: same as you
<hramrach_>
heh
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<oliv3r>
wens: erm, we have CSI drivers for a10 (and a20 probably) do we not?
<wens>
oliv3r: do we?
<oliv3r>
libv: yeah a13 was the least featurefull chip; but i think a13 docs have all the gui bits in it
<oliv3r>
libv: yeah we'd deffinatly need to do something if AW doesn't get their docs in order, the wiki works ok, but it's a lot of manual work
<rmax>
I'll try to take a board photo with a scanner...
<oliv3r>
libv: we need some much easier templates to get registers -> wiki from the docs
<libv>
rmax: go to _Marcus_
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<libv>
oliv3r: i do not see that as a priority
<libv>
we have much more important things to do
<libv>
oliv3r: you should start by ndhing some of your devices ;p
<blueLumocolor>
with gnu screen how do you scroll page up and down? don't see how in the manual
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<oliv3r>
wens: looking up link while backreading is bad for your heart ;)
<oliv3r>
libv: yeah we have many more things to do
<oliv3r>
libv: haha, i'm making a new device :p
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<oliv3r>
for smoe reason i managed to get the lipo led to go on
<phh>
a-uman-body-with: ctrl-a escape (puts you in copy/paste mode actually), then you can page up/down, and press escape when done
<oliv3r>
libv: i finally got output out of uart2, 5 and 6; there is nothing in serial_noise that could cause random trash to be spewed at first, only to work normally after 10 seconds, right? it always just prints /dev/ttyS%d to the port
<hramrach_>
I do not have the testpoints next ti the CPU
<oliv3r>
libv: (i'm ust trying to wrap my head around this)
<hramrach_>
only the resistor
<libv>
oliv3r: yes
<hramrach_>
rmax:
<oliv3r>
libv: fuck :p
<hramrach_>
or jumper or whatever
<rmax>
hramrach_: Interesting that the test points are missing on 1.0, but older and newer versions have them.
<rmax>
There seems to be a test point next to the SW corner of the AXP223 on yours that doesn't exist on mine, so maybe that's the UART?
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<rmax>
... or whatever chip it is that sits between the display connectors.
<oliv3r>
serial clock recovery failing! must be that ...
<rmax>
Ah - no, was confusing things. I also have that other test point.
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<rmax>
libv: please add another MicroSD-Adapter to your Conrad order if still possible. Seems to be a handy tool, even if I don't need it for now.
<rmax>
BTW, is there a best practice for running serial lines out of the closed case in a detachable way?
<libv>
rmax: order was made on saturday, and it just got sent to dhl
<libv>
but don't expect to get through airport control to the us
<rmax>
:)
<rmax>
Yeah, I was looking for a way that doesn't look crap.
<rmax>
So that the addition of an UART connection doesn't interfer too much with regular use.
<libv>
i do not use these tablets for anything else :)
<libv>
rmax: you can dig through conrads connectors for the next week :p
<libv>
i hope you have a crimp tool
<rmax>
Only for RJ45
<libv>
you basically need a male and female 3 pin connector
<libv>
a universal crimp tool
<libv>
some wire
<libv>
and you should end it off in a standard 2.54mm connector which should suit your pl2303
<libv>
you just need to find a small one to glue into your case
<rmax>
It looks like there would be enough space for a standard 2.54mm female connector under the antenna on the NW corner of my image.
<rmax>
But it might interfer with the antenna.
<rmax>
Bummer that UART isn't multiplexed with the earphone connector like on other devices.
<libv>
it is with the sdcard :)
<libv>
it might be a good idea to use a 4 pin connector and to glue one hole shut
<hramrach_>
rmax: are you sure you do not have those testpoint? only testpoints I see on top of my board are under the display cable
<libv>
glue the 2nd hole shut, so that you cannot insert your cable the wrong way round
<rmax>
hramrach_: I already corrected myself after I found them under the display cable. I was looking at the bord in the wrong direction. ;)
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<rmax>
libv: using 3pin, putting GND in the middle and adding serial resistors to the RX and TX lines should also do the trick and needs less space
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<libv>
:)
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<rmax>
BTW, I might even get this device for free, because the guy at AliExpress sold it with a "10 days or full refund" delivery guarantee and it took 19 days. ;)
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<wens>
libv: hehe
<oliv3r>
wens: do you have any a10 hardware around where you could hook up something to uart5?
<oliv3r>
i'll test on a20 tomorrow, but i'd need to prepare an sd card for that first
<oliv3r>
i'm trying a different serial converter right now
<wens>
i don't have 2.00 pitch connectors at home
<oliv3r>
same problem
<oliv3r>
would it be possible for you to check sometime?
<oliv3r>
i have 2 lime's now showing the same problem (identical SD card though)
<wens>
sure
<wens>
probably be a few times
<wens>
just moved in to a new office, hectic :p
<oliv3r>
heheh no worries
<oliv3r>
i'll poke some other people too
<oliv3r>
and i'll test on A20 aswell
<oliv3r>
but it looks like that on a A10 uart5 doesn't work right
<oliv3r>
so potential a driver bug or register offset change for the 5th uart somehow?
<oliv3r>
have uart0, 2 and 6 working normally
<wens>
i've uart7 on the cubietruck working
<wens>
need more uarts when connecting a bunch of devices :p
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<oliv3r>
hehe, well it's only 5 giving me issues
<oliv3r>
it's sprewing randomcharacters BEOFRE the string it's supposed to print
<oliv3r>
like it's missing hte startbit
<dack>
how does the A31s differ from the A31... just in general. Is the "s" a lower end version?
<phh>
well, it's supposed to be more thermal efficient
<mripard>
dack: less controllers, less pins, smaller package
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<dack>
ah.. okay.
<dack>
thanks
<oliv3r>
mripard: do you have any idea why only uart5 is spewing random stuff before printing the actual tet?
<mripard>
because your hardware sucks ? :)
<oliv3r>
mripard: :(
<oliv3r>
mripard: but two diff board so far, i'll do a a20 tomorrow
<oliv3r>
btw, for a20 mainline, i only need to swap u-boot right?
<oliv3r>
mainline is fully sun4i + sun7i?
<oliv3r>
(u-boot +dtb naturally)
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<mripard>
what?
<mripard>
what do you mean?
<dack>
"Allwinner A33 (sun?i) SoC features a Quad-Core Cortex-A7 ARM CPU, and a Mali400 MP2 GPU from ARM. It is a Quad-Core Pin-to-Pin Compatible version of A23, which in turn is a lower power cut-down version of the A23." That should be "cut-down version of the A20.", right?
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<rz2k>
which is obviously too much for digital pedal for guitar
<rz2k>
am I missing something obvious here, or they successfully running rt kernel with jack and things?
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<libv>
rz2k: rafaelMOD is working on that hw
<CaptHindsight>
rz2k: preempt_rt on the A20 has been ~130uS, Xenomai IIRC is <60uS latency jitter
<rz2k>
interesting
<rz2k>
what about dumb waveshaper->impulse amp->stereo delay->reverb setup? possibly with compressors and eqs between stages.
<CaptHindsight>
does it really matter that much for audio unless the application is somehow adaptive based on the input
<rz2k>
absolutely matters, I sense difference between 128 samples and 512-1024 samples ASIO buffer on my win music production pc playing to NI guitarrig or amplitube vst software
<libv>
mripard: this thing is pointless
<rz2k>
it is one of the biggest problems with music recording on even on modern hw/sw
<libv>
mripard: i will spend some time coding up a dt enabled dumb drm driver
<CaptHindsight>
maybe A20 with a FPGA for all the audio dsp
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<rz2k>
doubt it, looks like i2s adc/dac + amp circuitry tied to A20 SoM.
<CaptHindsight>
oh, not their design I was just mentioning a faster architecture
<rz2k>
but it would be awesome if they opensourced their work so people with A20/A10 could run the same, obviously dealing with i2s setup themselves.
<CaptHindsight>
yeah it's a big software headache/project
<libv>
rz2k: it is my understanding that they are doing so, or at least will be doing so
<rz2k>
nice then
<libv>
rz2k: rafaelMOD can explain more.
<rz2k>
hope he will join ML and atleast announce this project, I think he will find people interested in programming this thing or doing the same on own a20 hw.
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<rz2k>
an addon board for CB2 would be an interesting idea
<libv>
rz2k: he did!
<libv>
he even announced it the day after the kickstarter
<libv>
rz2k: why don't you look into things first?
<rz2k>
sorry, I'm blind :)
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<rz2k>
yep I found it
<rz2k>
sorry for the fuss
<rz2k>
surprised that topic has zero answers in 10 days
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<rafaelMOD>
rz2k: we are using a patch rt and lv2 pluginds
<rafaelMOD>
rz2k: we are actually with a 5ms lattency
<rz2k>
nice
<rafaelMOD>
rz2k: we are willing to migrate to A23/A33 to get higher frequencies
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<rafaelMOD>
rz2k: all our software is open source
<rafaelMOD>
rz2k: we made a host for lv2 plugins, a sdk for integrating lv2 with the host, you can already try it
<rafaelMOD>
and we are developing a coreboard with A23, and it will also be open
<rafaelMOD>
rz2k: i already announced the project on the ml
<rafaelMOD>
rz2k: our first prototype had a Cubieboard2. We used the internal codec and the sound was great!
<rafaelMOD>
I contacted him but i think he is not intrested in doing a pull request, as he stoped answering my emails
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<rafaelMOD>
I am doing some modifications and I am testing it this week, then i will send the the patch following the wiki instructions
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<wingrime>
libv: seems amd again moving to opensource in strange.way
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<oliv3r>
wens: i can't seem to get 09/10 to apply to u-boot/next
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<vlotho>
hello
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<vlotho>
I saw that it was necessary for the ct necessarily a kernel to uImage format. freebsd is it possible to generate a kernel with this format?
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<esperegu>
I get very choppy sound on mythtv. Anyone a suggestion to improve that?
<overdrajv>
hi! I am trying to configure the analog audio output as default on an olinuxino micro, as described here: http://linux-sunxi.org/Audio_Codec. I have a debian image from olimex wordpress. there are no problems with android.. Any ideas_
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<libv>
wingrime: we proposed this more than 7 years ago
<libv>
wingrime: but then, i always get told i am wrong, then am actively blocked or stopped, only to be proven right in the end
<libv>
and yet people only remember me being opposite to everyone else for no good reason
<libv>
the way of the world.
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