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<Gerwin_J> 999 RMB tablet
<Gerwin_J> around 118 euro, 160 USD
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<zombu2> anyone home?
<devlap> Yea. Question tho:
<zombu2> not you lol
<devlap> why might my computer read serial data at 115200 baud, when I set my kernel parameter to 9600
<devlap> serial output shows the kernel parameter read in
<devlap> " Kernel command line: console=ttyFIQ0,38400 console=tty0 root=/dev/block/mtd/by-name/linuxroot "
<zombu2> can set whatever speed and it is always 115200
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<froese> i'm on my way to bed...
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<wens> freenode hiccup?
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<ijc> mnemoc: Pushed to: git@gitorious.org:ijc/sunxi-tools.git add-licensing-headers
<ijc> vs v2 I: actually committed Henrik's request of MIT for usb-boot and I added my own S-o-b.
<ijc> Pull request: http://pastebin.com/UNK4hCyA
<ijc> Actually: git://gitorious.org/ijc/sunxi-tools.git add-licensing-headers
<ijc> might be a more useful URL (is git://)
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<oliv3r> ssvb: what was your super membench called again, and what are the requirements? lima tester something
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<oliv3r> that'st he one!
<oliv3r> was looking at our benching wiki, but nothing :(
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<popolon> No SATA :(
<oliv3r> yeah a80 has no sata
<oliv3r> a80 sucks anyway :p
<nedko> why a80 sucks anyway?
<oliv3r> the board loosk sexy though :p
<oliv3r> powerVR :)
<rm> big LITTLE sucks
<popolon> Why big.LITTLE sucks ?
<rm> for one, because it's a stupid waste of on-chip space
<popolon> oh, that's a limitation of A80 for SATA :(
<rm> to have 8 cores of which only 4 operate at a time
<rm> Qualcomm had 8 true cores even in phones
<popolon> ??? both can operate together depending on linux version isn't it ?
<mripard> rm: linux only uses 4, you can use 8 at the hardware level
<popolon> There are several modes of operation
<rm> also big little makes NO sense for a desktop
<rm> or server
<rm> which is what Cubieboard is
<rm> it's not a portable device where you need to conserve battery
<rm> popolon, cores are still not equal, half are slower than the other half
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<rm> does Linux even support that (well)?
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<popolon> but a7 in most of case is good enough.
<oliv3r> but aren't smart people working hard to support 8 cores in the big.LITTLE arch?
<mripard> rm: not yet
<oliv3r> wwell not 8, but 1 slow, 1 fast combo thing
<popolon> I thought that was the case since about one year
<rm> ah it was not qualcomm
<mripard> oliv3r: what you're talking about is already supported for 1-2 years
<mripard> what's not is having the 8 at the same time
<oliv3r> mripard: so what is the subtle difference then?
<oliv3r> mripard: also, hi :)
<wens> oliv3r: 8 cores vs 4 cores
<mripard> oliv3r: well, in one case, you have 4 cores enabled max, in the other one, 8
<wens> the linaro article has a comparison that says it all
<mripard> oliv3r: and as for the PowerVR, I guess you're only buying Tegra K1 then? :)
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<mripard> (and hi :))
<rm> Allwinner A23 should be OK
<rm> 4-core with Mali
<rm> oh nope
<rm> A33
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<oliv3r> mripard: so if there's only 4 cores, 2 fast 2 slow, it works allready?
<oliv3r> mripard: limadriver :p
<oliv3r> is there hardware out with a33 yet?
<oliv3r> or has 'a40' been announced yet?
<wens> oliv3r: no, you get either the fast one or the slow one, not both
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<amitk> oliv3r: the restriction isn't the number of cores, it is how the linux scheduler percieves them. The current assumption made by the Linux scheduler is that all cpus are equal. This is bad in the case of big.LITTLE when one type of core is fast and power-hungry and the other is slow(er) but power efficient
<oliv3r> exactly, but i thought that very smart people where working on that :p
<oliv3r> which is what my statement was about
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<amitk> Each run with a workload will give different performance and power numbers (depending on which cpu it got scheduled on)
<amitk> oliv3r: yes, it is WIP
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<mripard> oliv3r: yep
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<oliv3r> wens: you know the innards of the axp PMU's yeah?
<mripard> oliv3r: and given that lima haven't seen any commit in over a year, I don't really see how it can compare.
<wens> oliv3r: pretty much
<oliv3r> mripard: i know :( it saddens me :(
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<oliv3r> wens: if my board lacks a power button (or inaccessable power button) what are my chances of getting stuck in a 'powered off' mode
<mripard> mnemoc: all: just fyi, the git tree with my accepted patch branches have moved to kernel.org
<mripard> git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/mripard/linux.git
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<oliv3r> oh nice one
<wens> oliv3r: if you powered off, then you're sort of stuck
<wens> remove external power and all batteries
<wens> then apply power and it should come back on
<wens> mripard: will you still merge other subsystem trees into sunxi-next?
<mripard> wens: yep
<mripard> sunxi-next stays as is
<mripard> for-next will be in linux-next, and will only be my branches merged together
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<wens> thanks :)
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<nedko> the soc doesnt seem to be attached to the case-sink
<nedko> via heatpipe or something
<popolon> no picture of the opened case
<popolon> perhaps that's just a preventive case, used with an experimental version of A80 ?
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<popolon> at least with this kind of case, I suppose no fan is needed even with very hot SoC
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<popolon> CT-Metal Case, so that's for cubietruck, not for Cubieboard 8
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<wens> i made the same mistake yesterday :p
<oliv3r> wens: so the AXP if it looses complete power (no backup battery) it comes back up 'normally'
<oliv3r> i think i have to put time and effort into porting the nadnd driver from the oldu-boot to our current ub--boot
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<oliv3r> boot0 code may just not be sufficient for us to work with :S
<wens> oliv3r: that's my understanding, yes
<oliv3r> btw, what was the reasoning that the 8192cu etc have special 'sw' versions? I think it was the power pin, right?
<oliv3r> the vusb power thing
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<wens> i'm not aware of it
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<hani_> Hi everyone I saw a message on the forum about the nand driver is in the mainline but I'm having trouble finding it
<wens> oliv3r: i only see 8192cu and 8192su on realtek's website
<wens> (and other non usb 8192 variants)
<HeHoPMaJIeH> 5 мин
<HeHoPMaJIeH> sorry , wrong window :)
<mripard> hani_: it's not there yet
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<hani_> mripard: thanx. I've been using bbrezillon nand patches for quite sometime without any issues. A part from obtaining the timing information I think it is good enough to make to mainline
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<oliv3r> wens: i ment the 8192 realtek that has special 'sw' e.g. softwinner driver versions
<oliv3r> hani_ how's the nand performance with bbrezillon's patches
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<mripard> oliv3r: I don't have any comparison, but can it be worse than no support at all ?
<oliv3r> mripard: compared to libnand :p
<oliv3r> since it lacks dDMA
<oliv3r> if we have reasonable fast nand, we could actually go with a mainline kernel in our product
<oliv3r> i'm not looking forward to working with boot0 :S
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<mripard> oliv3r: DMA doesn't mean that it will be faster
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<mripard> it means that it will consume less CPU
<oliv3r> true, what CPU usage do you see?
<mripard> don't know, never tested the patches
<oliv3r> i guess I should :D
<oliv3r> the a10 temp sensor patches where for mainline only where they not?
<mripard> but I'd much rather seeing it work before seeing it work fast
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<oliv3r> what still needs to be done to get it into the mainline kernel?
<mripard> having a responsive maintainer would help
<mripard> giving bbrezillon some motivation to repost his patches too
<oliv3r> eep : (
<oliv3r> that kinda sucks :(
<wens> oliv3r: hmm, maybe for parsing fex file and getting the usb stuff, though I thought the rfkill driver did that
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<oliv3r> yeah but doe sthe 3.4 have rfkill stuff?
<oliv3r> parsing fex for sure
<oliv3r> but i may just make a small generic fex -> rfkill thing
<oliv3r> allowing the usage of regular usb wifi drivers
<wens> there is, but doesn't seem to compile
<oliv3r> ah :(
<oliv3r> well that's fixable
<oliv3r> :)
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<juanfont> has anyone had any luck with the 'rtl8192cu' driver? (I'm saying it to add to http://linux-sunxi.org/Wifi that it's better to use the '8192cu' and blacklist the 'rtl8192cu'
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<kz1> has anyone here benchmarked ffmpeg transcoding on the a20?
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<arokux2> kz1: there were some benchmarks on the wiki
<kz1> arokux2, can't find it. do you know if ffmpeg is easy to setup with hardware decoding for theora codec?
<jelly-home> hardware decoding... for theora?
<arokux2> kz1: http://linux-sunxi.org/Benchmarks I have no idea. if you make some benchmarks, please add relative info to that page
<jelly-home> kz1: is there hw that does theora _at all_?
<kz1> jelly-home: I highly doubt it but one can always ask ;-)
<kz1> FYI, I'm tyring to figure out a way to use icecast with ffmpeg to enable AV screencast from one device to many
<kz1> or just ffmpeg server if icecast is not viable
<oliv3r> kz1 not even sure if the hardware supports theora video codec
<kz1> i'll have to run some tests to benchmark ffmpeg with a few options
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<jelly-home> Turl: did it PM spam?
<Turl> jelly-home: no, but the join spam on other channels is pretty annoying. Just a preventative measure :)
<Turl> I think I did the ban the wrong way though
<jelly-home> Turl: forgot the ~
<jelly-home> (it matters)
<Turl> jelly-home: what does it do?
<Turl> the freenode docs don't mention it :\
<jelly-home> it's just a character denoting lack of ident service on the client side, but it has to be matched like any other character
<Turl> ok
<jelly-home> right
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<oliv3r> ello
<oliv3r> ssvb: the a10 temp sensor stuff, has it been backported to the 3.4 yet?
<ssvb> oliv3r: not yet
<ssvb> oliv3r: I have a messy test branch for this stuff - https://github.com/ssvb/linux-sunxi/commit/58a509872b1f1578355e02c4fceb141d7441c732
<Turl> ssvb: I've been using the axp temp stuff, no issues so far
<Turl> ssvb: I got some pretty graphs with a bit of help from munin
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<oliv3r> ssvb: with a10 temp sensor for 3.4 patches?
<oliv3r> ssvb: i'm going to do temp tests this week for $work, so i'll take the a10 temp sensor along for a ride
<ssvb> oliv3r: yes, and it's explained in the commit message
<ssvb> oliv3r: I created this branch for some guy in the cubieforums, who wanted to test the SoC temperature sensor
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<oliv3r> let me just work around github to get the patches to apply to 3.4 HEAD
<oliv3r> I hope we can get our FLIR camera tomorrow or the day after
<oliv3r> yeah found it :)
<oliv3r> thanks ssvb
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<oliv3r> ssvb: do i have to compare it to hansg's or is it 'accurate enough'
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<ssvb> oliv3r: on A10 it is not calibrated, you will get something like ~100C
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