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<standard[m]>
Should I just run a local node out my basement instead of in the cloud? If I do that how can I help improve data accessibility globally? ?
<standard[m]>
*edit:* ~~Should I just run a local node out my basement instead of in the cloud? If I do that how can I help improve data accessibility globally? ?~~ -> Should I just run a local node out my basement instead of in the cloud? If I do that how can I help improve data accessibility globally? I know the off-the-cuff answer is run multiple nodes globally. But that is best done in the cloud.
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<shoku[m]>
Yes and yes
<shoku[m]>
Anything helps, plus you get to learn how to use ipfs more 😃
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<standard[m]>
Would ipfs-cluster help here? For some context, I am building a side project here : https://www.trakz.co/beats
<standard[m]>
We plan to use ipfs as our data storage layer as the foundation for future decentralization
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<Swedneck>
you'll help the DHT even by just running ipfs
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<Swedneck>
well this channel is bridged to matrix, which is bridged to discord
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<shoku[m]>
swedneck:swedneck.xyz can I dm people from IRC here somehow?
<shoku>
test (making sure I can use TheLounger via docker)
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<mrhavercamp_>
I have been using js-ipfs to launch an in-browser node to save files. What is the lifecycle of a file stored to IPFS on a js ipfs node? Does it get garbage collected when the browser window is shut down?
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<mrhavercamp_>
I'm also wondering; am I better off connecting my web app to an existing go node or is it fine instantiating the node in js? The main thing I'm looking for is permanency. It seems like storing to a go node is more robust than using a browser node.
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<fiatjaf>
mrhavercamp_, you should rely on window.ipfs
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<Evanescence[m]>
/commands
<Evanescence[m]>
/help commands
<Evanescence[m]>
/help
<lidel>
or create your own orchestration that ensures CIDs added by js-ipfs in browser are eventually pinned somewhere
<lidel>
:)
<lidel>
mrhavercamp_, as for lifecycle question: js-ipfs will preload data to public gateways, so even if your user closes the tab it should be available for short period of time (until gc'd on the gateways). if you are looking for permanency you can pay someone to pin your CIDs or host your own pinning service with go-ipfs or http://cluster.ipfs.io
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<mrhavercamp_>
thanks fiatjaf, lidel. So, yes, my thought was to pin it to my go-ipfs daemon. Does this mean I should be storing to my go-ipfs instead of my in-browser js-ipfs?
<mrhavercamp_>
Or can I somehow automate the process of syncing my js-ipfs node to my go node?
<mrhavercamp_>
sorry am I repeating message? I keep getting getting logged out and get "cannot send to nick/channel"
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<lidel>
mrhavercamp_, really depends on your use case, what type of app are you creating?
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<fiatjaf>
mrhavercamp_, you're not repeating messages
<fiatjaf>
mrhavercamp_, since only IPFS enthusiasts use full-IPFS apps nowadays, I think the best approach is to rely on window.ipfs being present. that means the user must have a go-ipfs daemon running, or an in-browser js-ipfs node however not tied to any domain
<fiatjaf>
and they have ipfs companion, the browser extension, installed
<fiatjaf>
so it may be or may not be a good option
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<mrhavercamp_>
lidel Use case: decentralized archive. Users store files on ipfs and orbitdb stores metadata. Ethereum contract is used to store the hash of both.
<mrhavercamp_>
fiatjaf okay that was my initial setup; i.e. store to the user's local go-ipfs so they are responsible for the storage of files. However, as an archive I want to ensure permanency. I guess this is where Filecoin becomes an option.
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<lidel>
mrhavercamp_, if you want permanency then until something like Filecoin is available you need to host your own go-ipfs somewhere to ensure at least one seed is available even if user closes their laptop
<fiatjaf>
meh
<fiatjaf>
why do you need an ethereum contract for that? if the user must be storing its own data, couldn't it store its own metadata too?
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<mrhavercamp_>
lidel yes I was thinking that storing to a remote go-ipfs hosted by me would be the only other option although I guess this takes away from the whole point of ipfs.
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<mrhavercamp_>
fiatjaf to potentially tokenify (is that a word) archived material. As this is potentially academic, peer-reviewed and copyrighted, I thought storing it to a contract would give records some legitimacy.
<r0kk3rz>
an ethereum contract is a good way to create more complex IPNS scenarios
<lidel>
mrhavercamp_, I'd say the whole point of IPFS is to add content-addressing to your "archive app", so all people need to know is CID and don't care about location or need to trust anyone
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