#ipfs on 2018-11-09 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

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05:55 <xaiki> hello there ! i'm trying to understand how i can use the file API (in js-ipfs) to get back old data. i.e: share files between many nodes. the closet i could find in the doc is the `options.preload` section, but that feels all too complicated, so my question is: what am i missing ?

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06:06 <deltab> xaiki: you have the hash of the old data, right?

06:07 <deltab> then you can call files.get: https://github.com/ipfs/interface-ipfs-core/blob/master/SPEC/FILES.md#filesget

06:08 <xaiki> actually there still isn't data, i'm trying to build a simple sharing service like https://github.com/ipfs/js-ipfs/tree/master/examples/exchange-files-in-browser but wondering how do i plug in IPNS in all this.

06:09 <xaiki> so i should qmfile = ipfs.resolve($ipns-addr) and then ipfs.files.get(qmfile) ?

06:13 <deltab> yeah, that sounds right

06:13 <deltab> https://github.com/ipfs/interface-ipfs-core/blob/master/SPEC/NAME.md#nameresolve

06:13 <deltab> ipfs.name.resolve

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06:14 <xaiki> ok, but then how do i upload to that same name ? if i ipfs.files.get() will it fetch the whole directory ?

06:16 <xaiki> because IIUC: ipfs.files.add will just 'upload to my node'

06:16 <deltab> to change what the name points to, use ipfs.name.publish: https://github.com/ipfs/interface-ipfs-core/blob/master/SPEC/NAME.md#namepublish

06:18 <deltab> sorry if I'm misunderstanding what you're asking

06:20 <xaiki> i think i'm starting to get it. my problem is that i'm need to ensure 'no one can delete or modify files' and 'everyone can create files' but i guess that this API will not work for me because if i give away the key everyone could just publish to a new multihash right ?

06:20 <deltab> right

06:20 <deltab> you'll need a server that controls what gets published

06:21 <xaiki> and then have some signaling over pubsub or something ?

06:21 <deltab> yeah

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06:22 <xaiki> then i guess maybe scuttlebutt is more apropriate than IPFS for my application, booh wanted to play with it =)

06:24 <deltab> alternatively you can have each node sign its own additions, then clients can decide which version to use, by checking that signatures are valid and records have been composed following the rules

06:25 <xaiki> but in that model how would they 'find each other' ?

06:25 <deltab> using pubsub could be one way

06:26 <xaiki> seems like a lot of hand-handled signaling

06:26 <deltab> yeah, it's not something you get out of the box yet

06:27 <xaiki> cool, thanks heaps for your help deltab, you cleared my doubts in no time !

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07:40 <mariodo[m]> Hi!

07:40 <mariodo[m]> Are there developers from Filecoin here? Or any contact of one of the Filecoin team members?

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07:42 <deltab> try #filecoin

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16:54 <M-Sonata> How latency-tolerant is bitswap?

16:57 <M-Sonata> And in particular, in a sneakernet situation:

16:57 <M-Sonata> Suppose A can only connect to B, and B can only connect to at most one at a time of A or the rest of the network.

16:57 <M-Sonata> A, while connected to B, tries to open a particular file/hash, which neither of them currently have stored. B then disconnects from A and reconnects to the network. Does B's node automatically relay A's request, or does A's operator have to talk to B's operator?

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17:46 <M-Sonata> And in particular, in a sneakernet situation:

17:46 <M-Sonata> Suppose A can only connect to B, and B can only connect to at most one at a time of A or the rest of the network.

17:46 <M-Sonata> A, while connected to B, tries to open a particular file/hash, which neither of them currently have stored. B then disconnects from A and reconnects to the network. Does B's node automatically relay A's request, or does A's operator have to talk to B's operator?

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18:05 <fiatjaf> what is the format of keys generated by 'ipfs key gen'? how do I use them to sign some stuff?

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18:28 <M-Sonata> i think the standard usage is `ipfs name publish --key=keyname QmContentToPublish`

18:28 <M-Sonata> (see `ipfs key --help`)

18:31 <lidel> fiatjaf, usefulness of keys is limited right now, basically what M-Sonata said

18:32 <lidel> you can generate a new key and copy it to different machine, that way multiple nodes can publish to the same IPNS address, but thats about it

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18:38 <fiatjaf> but can't we do anything with the files on ~/.ipfs/keystore/?

18:38 <fiatjaf> I mean, there must be another program that is able to read those and do useful stuff, or not?

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19:39 <lidel> fiatjaf, i am not sure about the format, but iirc we want to improve related commands, relevant discussion and proposed spec: https://github.com/ipfs/specs/issues/3 + https://github.com/ipfs/specs/tree/master/keystore

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20:22 <fiatjaf> for the ref: https://github.com/tswindell/ipfs_keys_export

20:23 <fiatjaf> I guess it doesn't matter as this channel isn't logged anymore, right?

20:24 <papazeus> yeah botbot . me is closed

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23:41 * Swedneck sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/EIIFjkTfPEyJPgYFDhsUSpkz >

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23:56 <fiatjaf> libp2p keeps connecting over and over again

23:56 <fiatjaf> I guess

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