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<edd[m]> TUSF: actually it looks like each user has their own peer id
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<edd[m]> (from a quick test on my laptop)
<edd[m]> so, that means one user can't change another's mutable store, I think...
<edd[m]> can someone confirm?
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<voker57> each use has their own peer id but that does not restrict you from connecting to other user's daemon and doing whatever you like
<voker57> there's no auth mechanism except binding to 127.0.0.1
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<edd[m]> so, can one user change another's mutable store?
<edd[m]> that would be bad
<voker57> there's no mutable store but yes you can manipulate IPNS data of node you have access to
<edd[m]> right, so that's not good
<edd[m]> swedneck: what do you think?
<edd[m]> i've just tried publishing from two different user accounts and they went to different namespace hashes...
<swedneck[m]1> ?
<edd[m]> trying to determine if ipfs is safe on multi-user systems
<edd[m]> wrt mutable stores
<voker57> it's not
<voker57> by default ipfs will connect to proper daemon, thus the different hashes, but nothing stopping from connecting to other one
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<bennofs[m]> is there way to find out what a hash that pops up in a DHT findNode query event refers to?
<bennofs[m]> for example, I saw that my node send a FIND_NODE for QmVZVMgvsLrVAYo86sdMwpF3CRVaUNsWLXeMjaXUR3Ghho can I see what that refers to?
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<bennofs[m]> might be just bootstrapping now that I think about it
<voker57> what do you mean by refers to? you can look that hash up on network same way as any other hash
<bennofs[m]> hmm maybe that doesn't make sense, you're right (I wanted to figure out what kind of DHT object it is, but I think GET/PUT is currently only used for IPNS records, so it must be that?)
<bennofs[m]> another question, are there any tools for interpreting `ipfs log tail` ?
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<lgierth> bennofs[m]: you can set it to only show certain log categories via `ipfs log level`
<lgierth> eeh i mean certain log subsystems
<bennofs[m]> That doesn't apply to ipfs log tail output as far as I can swe
<lgierth> ah right
<lgierth> log tail isn't actually the same as the log output, it's the events
<bennofs[m]> I'm looking for something that can extract useful statistics (such as number of initiated/replied dht queries)
<lgierth> one more thing that should be brought in order
<lgierth> there's a prometheus metrics endpoints at :5001/debug/metrics/prometheus
<bennofs[m]> Just thought I'd ask if there is already such thing before I try to build it 😀
<lgierth> not many dht metrics there either though
<lgierth> you can register go-metrics stuff anywhere in code, and go-metrics-prometheus will automatially make them show up in :5001/debug/metrics/prometheus
<bennofs[m]> It has all dht operations I believe. Might need to add the queried key to the logs
<bennofs[m]> I want to produce things like DHT query trees for the long-running queries
<lgierth> yeah that'd be really useful
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<edd[m]> i'm finding that ipfs makes my internet connection grind to a halt :(
<edd[m]> found some issues in GH where people hare having the same problem
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<edd[m]> swedneck: I reckon that's why I was finding everything was so slow the other day
<swedneck[m]1> weird, i've never experienced slowness
<edd[m]> when the daemon is running, I can't ssh to anything :(
<xpitr> limit its bandwidth?
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<edd[m]> some people reccommended using trickle to limit the bandwidth
<edd[m]> I'm not sure how well that'd work
<edd[m]> i noticed that the daemon connects to some 200 peers
<edd[m]> i imagine that has something to do with it
<xpitr> try ifstat and see if it has heavy uploading. my network grinds to a halt when i saturate upload
<Kolonka[m]> usually closer to 800
<Kolonka[m]> in my experience anyway
<TUSF> Mine connects to roughly 600~, hah... Though I'm not sure how to judge the network load, actually. In any case, it's a well accepted fact that the DHT is very chatty.
<Kolonka[m]> I rarely notice any problems, but it's only if it has been left open for a long time, if I do
<edd[m]> installing ifstat
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<swedneck[m]1> 350 for me rn
<xpitr> also if i had 3 daemons on my network i'd probably let only one talk with outside world, and all internal talk with each other
<xpitr> 668 here :)
<lidel> edd[m], in past people with cheap routers had issues with high connection numbers, try limiting it via connection manager to ~200 and see if it helped https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/blob/master/docs/config.md#connmgr
<lidel> I had one that died around 1k of connections between LAN and WAN
<edd[m]> ok so before running the daemon, ifstat up and down is like 0-1.5 both up and down
<xpitr> watch ifstat around the time you notice network is slow
<edd[m]> up to about 200-300 k/s with 150ish peers
<edd[m]> about 350 k/s with 250ish peers
<xpitr> are you actually "hosting" any files that others might be downloading?
<edd[m]> already I can't ssh to my vps
<edd[m]> and i had to kill the daemon to be able to send these messages
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<edd[m]> xpitr: i've only published tiny test text files from this laptop
<edd[m]> i think it's the # of connections
<edd[m]> probably my crappy dsl router
<edd[m]> trying the watermark limit now
<xpitr> yeah might be then. see dmesg if there is anything about dropped packets or conntrack?
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<xpitr> i also have crappy router, just installed openwrt on it ;)
<xpitr> super stable, 10/10 can recommend
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<edd[m]> eh, even a watermark of [30,50] is enough to kill ssh
<edd[m]> it looks to me like it never stops trying to find more nodes
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<Poeticode> hmm, I'm getting an unexpected EOFnode error when recursively pinning an IPNS hash
<Poeticode> Do I need to figure out the IPFS hash it's pointing to instead?
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<Poeticode> (and how might one figure out what the IPNS is pointing to? I don't think I see any relevant commands on the Usage section of go-ipfs's github
<TUSF> ipfs name resolve <hash>
<Poeticode> crap, sorry. Now I see the `name Publish or resolve IPNS names`
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<Poeticode> suhweet, successfully pinned :>
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<swedneck[m]1> >error parsing cid: selected encoding not supported
<swedneck[m]1> huh?
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<swedneck[m]1> for the record: i just ran `ipfs add -r .` and tried to pin the hash to my cluster
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<swedneck[m]1> apparently adding some more files made the hash usable
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<bennofs[m]> can I find the hashes of objects in my local repo?
<lgierth> bennofs[m]: ipfs refs local
<lgierth> it's all blocks, not just objects
<bennofs[m]> for some reason my node is downloading with ~ 1 MB/s. Is this only DHT traffic?
<r0kk3rz> possibly
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<bennofs[m]> oh wait I have pins, but idk where they come from :o
<bennofs[m]> ah, the ipfs readme thing is automatically pinned...
<bennofs[m]> a libp2p packet capture tool would be nice :D
<lidel> :)
<bennofs[m]> isn't libp2p traffic encrypted? would need an option to export the keys first
<lidel> mkg20001 has some wip at https://github.com/mkg20001/libp2p-dissector
<lidel> yeah decryption using dumped keys is on his todo list afaik
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<bennofs[m]> any way to list reverse refs for an object?
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<lgierth> nope, there's no functionality for that at the moment
<lgierth> you'd have to build a reverse index data structure yourself at the moment
<lgierth> we might have a graph database embedded in ipfs at some point
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