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<lord|> cloudflare-ipfs.com doesn't force HTTPS :/
<lord|> might be good to get that domain name in EFF's HTTPS Everywhere list
<ex-parrot> and/or HSTS Preload
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<lord|> ex-parrot: preferably
<lord|> though I would think cloudflare has a reason for this
<lord|> ipfs gateway isn't going to make them a whole lot of money, can cut costs by skipping out on HTTPS
<ex-parrot> mm I suppose
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<kralos> it's still possible to add HSTS to a custom domain (CNAME'd or cloudflare FEP) pointed at cloudflare-ipfs.com
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<Fns[m]> Hello. I've updated to 0.4.17 and now webui does not seem to work, saying it 'Failed to get configured IPFS gateway'. But I see no errors running ipfs --daemon. Where should I look?
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<lord|> kralos: doesn't HSTS rely on specific headers being set
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<lord|> that is, you're not allowed to be on the HSTS preload list if you don't actually use HSTS
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<kralos> lord|: oh yeah... so it would only work behind a cloudflare site, not a CNAME (cloudflare will inject the HSTS headers)
<lord|> put cloudflare behind cloudflare... cloudflareception
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<swedneck[m]1> Fеnикs: can you post the first bit of your ipfs config, down to "Bootstrap"?
<Fns[m]> swedneck: I think I've fixed it, my config was not migrated for some reason. I've renamed it, reinitialized and merged relevant parts. It seems to be working now
<swedneck[m]1> great
<swedneck[m]1> iirc i had to change localhost to 127.0.0.1 under "Adresses"
<Fns[m]> Question though, was config supposed to be migrated with ipfs daemon --migrate?
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<swedneck[m]1> no cue
<swedneck[m]1> clue*
<Fns[m]> Will check with next update, then. Thanks.
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<bennofs[m]> How does ipfs pubsub discover peers for a given topic? I can't find this in the spec
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<bennofs[m]> Is it planned to allow nodes to access recent pubsub messages even if no other publisher is online? For example to access the current head hash of a log
<bennofs[m]> Or should IPNS be used for that kind of mutable state?
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<wjh> I'm 100% guessing here, but I imagine it's going to use a similar method to how it would discover peers for a given file hash
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<bennofs[m]> Does ipfs take network link cost into account? For example, will it prefer nodes that are geographical close to me, and if yes is there a spec for this (or issue)?
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<SchrodingersScat> if I have some file hashes and now want to add them to a directory, how do I do that?
<SchrodingersScat> normally I start by -w wrapping but now I'm trying to wrap a bunch
<aramiscd> a question for the qb developers: what's your opinion on ipfs and dat integration in qutebrowser?
<aramiscd> uups, wrong place, sorry
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<JRWR> is there a upperbounds of the number of files that you can add with ipfs add -r .
<JRWR> im at about 10k and man it doesn't like it, lots of freezing
<lidel> JRWR, you may try some tips from https://github.com/ipfs/notes/issues/212#issue-199355239
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<SchrodingersScat> did a files mkdir and cp'd some files over, but they don't have their names...i guess that makes sense
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<JRWR> I run a website called BeatSaver.com -- So I get uploads every hour pretty much, whats the best way to keep a ipfs mirror up to date with changes, right now I just symlinked all the raw files and I plan on dumping the database to json every week
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<JRWR> wow, its saying three days to add everything, even with the changes
<swedneck[m]1> yeah, adding stuff takes a lot of time for some reason
<JRWR> about 700 json files, and about 6000 Zips and 6000 Jpegs
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<JRWR> ah, had to restart my daemon to have the changes take effect
<JRWR> much faster!
<swedneck[m]1> which changes?
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<JRWR> the ones detailed in issue 212
<JRWR> it crashed
<JRWR> the IPFS daemon died
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<swedneck[m]1> are you sure you mean 212? that issue is asking how to get hashes without adding files
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<SchrodingersScat> whee, i figured mine out. derp, wrote a quick bash script to make it less asinine to have to pair the directory/filenames combos.
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<lgierth> bennofs[m]: nope, not currently taking link cost or latency into account -- we'll get to a more elaborate network layer next year
<JRWR> ya, My dataset crashes at the same spot everytime
<JRWR> interesting
<SchrodingersScat> I have all my ipfs adds in 'until' loops.
<JRWR> SchrodingersScat: Im doing a very large dataset from a busy public website
<JRWR> in my mine, 20k files is not that big
<SchrodingersScat> I heard, but even on my low level stuff I can have issues. Or especially did in older versions.
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<SchrodingersScat> good luck with yours, god speed my friend
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<SchrodingersScat> JRWR: so it's simply a lot of files not necessarily large in size?
<bennofs[m]> Are IPRS and IPNS related? It feels to me like similar services (key value store)
<JRWR> SchrodingersScat: every song gets a up to 16MB zip and a jpg
<JRWR> I removed raw-leaf, that helped with the crashing
<JRWR> but its pretty slow, about 1-2 objects a second
<SchrodingersScat> if it crashes when you try to add recursively through the directory, i wonder if find -exec followed by some ipfs magic would get that going inserting each individual file in a less recursive way...or do nothing to help and only make you cry.
<bennofs[m]> Is there a reading list / collection of spec links + important issues to get an understanding of ipfs inner workings?
<JRWR> and crash again
<JRWR> im purging my config
<JRWR> im trying ipfs add -r --local --nocopy . with Experimental.FilestoreEnabled true
<JRWR> and crash
<JRWR> da fuck
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<SchrodingersScat> you're part of the experiment now, buddy
<JRWR> hrm
<JRWR> its not a OOM
<JRWR> go-ipfs is broken :(
<SchrodingersScat> heh, and pinning the directory I created is just sitting there :D
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<JRWR> does ipfs not follow symlinks
<SchrodingersScat> I'm verifying my repo, but doesn't make much sense that a file that was pinned got corrupted. Although full disclosure this machine is with a terrible host so not a huge surprise if it's their fault.
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<Kolonka[m]> We have the whitepaper and various GitHub issue pages, Benno Fünfstück
<Kolonka[m]> Oh, and an unfinished GitBooks repo
<bennofs[m]> Kolonka: thanks. I found the whitepaper, and also the various specs repos, but it is sometimes a little hard to differentiate between what is implemented / what is future vision / what is already outdated and replaced by something else
<Kolonka[m]> I feel you
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<Kolonka[m]> I couldn't even tell you how BitSwap or the versioning system is working at this stage, despite having read those sections
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<JRWR> Im going to compile off of github, since a ton of changes have been put in
<JRWR> see if that fixes it
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<JRWR> So far so good
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<SchrodingersScat> I found the exact same file I was having issues with, re-inserted it and then things went fine, i don't know how to really explain that.
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<swedneck[m]1> i'm reading https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs-gui/issues/10 and it made me wonder, should i be using `ipfs files cp` instead of `ipfs add` most of the time?
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<JRWR> whats the best way to script adding and then publishing to a ipns
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<lidel> swedneck[m]1, depends on your use case. for desktop use 'ipfs add --pin=false' + 'ipfs files cp' may be a better idea, because you can attach meaningful name to resource in MFS
<swedneck[m]1> yeah that's my use case
<swedneck[m]1> also, why isn't it just `ipfs cp`?
<JRWR> yay
<JRWR> now I have /ipns/beatsaver.com
<swedneck[m]1> is there some other subcommand that uses cp/ls/mkdir?
<voker57> ls, yes
<JRWR> but "ipfs get" pretty much dies trying to process it
<voker57> and because it does not strictly deal with IPFS but MFS structure
<swedneck[m]1> it's just really annoying to type `ipfs files` every time
<swedneck[m]1> i'd make an alias but i'm not sure how to do that with a space
<voker57> use these -> ""
<JRWR> wow is IPFS really that slow, ipfs cat /ipns/beatsaver.com/json/0.json locally is stupid slow
<voker57> IPNS is unreliable yes
<bennofs[m]> is it normal for nodes in the dht to announce a lot of IPs from private address spaces?
<voker57> you might want to dnslink=/ipfs/... instead
<bennofs[m]> why is ipns so unreliable? isn't the DHT that slow?
<voker57> something is wrong with IPNS specifically
<bennofs[m]> is there a tool to compute a multihash on the command line?
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<elwisp> ipfs is using a lot of cpu when i run it, is this normal?
<voker57> bennofs[m]: ipfs add -n
<voker57> elwisp: how much is a lot?
<elwisp> 50%
<voker57> might be normal, i'm seeing ~25% often
<elwisp> ardoun 25 mbit traffic also
<voker57> esp if it's doing something
<elwisp> i just started it
<voker57> with clean repo? maybe it's bootstrapping or something
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<elwisp> yeah, just installed it now to test
<elwisp> alright
<elwisp> i take it that it will finish what ever its doing and slow down then
<elwisp> can i get it to print out what its doing?
<voker57> ipfs log tail
<voker57> but that's not really easy to understand
<elwisp> looks like its bootstrapping
<elwisp> bunch of update peer
<bennofs[m]> is there any example using `ipfs dht put`?
<bennofs[m]> ah ok, seems it just took a while to update
<bennofs[m]> using it like `ipfs dht put QmeomffUNfmQy76CQGy9NdmqEnnHU9soCexBnGU3ezPHVH foobar` works
<bennofs[m]> but it is reallly slow
<bennofs[m]> (the get afterwards is slow I mean)
<voker57> slow or doesn't actually happen?
<bennofs[m]> it happened once
<bennofs[m]> but sometimes it fails
<bennofs[m]> but you're right, it's only slow if it doesn't find the key
<bennofs[m]> it seems
<bennofs[m]> which makes some sense
<bennofs[m]> but I am surprised because shouldn't my own node be a perfect provider for this key I just added?
<bennofs[m]> it is even listed if I do ipfs dht findprovs
<voker57> no, it doesn't necessarily store it
<voker57> according to DHT algorithm
<bennofs[m]> oh right
<voker57> if you're trying to store some data in IPFS, use `ipfs add` instead
<bennofs[m]> but why is it listed in findprovs then?
<bennofs[m]> yeah I know, I wanted to explictly experiment with the DHT a little :)
<voker57> oh, _is_ listed. well, no idea, probably the same problem as with IPNS
<voker57> maybe you discover the cause for this annoying bug while you experiment
<bennofs[m]> is there a github issue for the IPNS problem?
<bennofs[m]> thanks!
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<bennofs[m]> voker57: actually, it seems like ipfs dht put is giving an error (which is only visible if using verbose mode! :O)
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<bennofs[m]> a DHT traceroute would be nice :p
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<r0kk3rz> whyrusleeping: so i wonder if we can convince cloudfire to submit their go-ipfs mods for the gateway fingerprinting stuff
<r0kk3rz> doesnt look too bad really - https://github.com/cloudflare/go-ipfs/commits/master
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<swedneck[m]1> out of curiousity, is it possible to redirect IPFS pages like ipfs-companion does, but on a router level?
<swedneck[m]1> say i'm running a node on a local server, the router would detect that someone is requesting a page with dnslink, and redirect it to the local ipfs server
<r0kk3rz> sure
<swedneck[m]1> how would one set that up?
<r0kk3rz> im not sure its something you can just set up, you'd basically need something to intercept the dns request
<r0kk3rz> like your own dns server
<swedneck[m]1> well how does ipfs-companion do it?
<r0kk3rz> hardcoded list of gateway urls probably
<swedneck[m]1> no i mean the detection of dnslink
<r0kk3rz> same way i explained earlier
<swedneck[m]1> ..so ipfs-companion runs a dns server?
<r0kk3rz> no, it doesnt need to because its client side
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<lidel> fyi Companion does not have hardcoded list of gateways, it detects valid CID in /ipfs/{cid}/* paths :)
<lidel> dnslink support is based on highly cached dns txt lookups via /api/v0/dns
<lidel> you won't be able to do at the router what browser extension does for https gateways
<r0kk3rz> yeah i found the helper library, looks cool
<lidel> because you won't be able to do mitm on tls connections
<lidel> (probably ;))
<swedneck[m]1> i guess it's easier to just install ipfs-companion on the computers :P
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<lidel> yeah
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<bennofs[m]> is there an option to run the daemon in a sort-of passive mode, where it does not actively participate in the dht but still allows dht queries through the `ipfs dht get` command? Right now, the dht logs are quite noisy even without me doing anything at all
<r0kk3rz> client-mode does that
<bennofs[m]> how do I enable that?
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<bennofs[m]> thanks, exactly what I needed
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<bennofs[m]> are there any stats about the ipfs network? For example, how many nodes are currently in the DHT?
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<d4ve> if I run 'ipfs add -r <dir>' and then 'ipfs name publish <dir hash>' shouldnt I be able to reload the URL with my Peer ID to see updated files?
<JCaesar> yes. but i've always found ipns to be way too slow.
<d4ve> so it will propagate eventually?
<d4ve> because its been an hour
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<JCaesar> the propagation part should be finished as soon as the publish command returns.
<JCaesar> (not that I'm sure about this.)
<JCaesar> there is still a resolution part.
<d4ve> well I am testing it through cloudflare so maybe they havent propagated
<JCaesar> test it through ipfs.io then, or eternum, or whatnot...
<d4ve> yeah that is it
<d4ve> if I test through gateway.ipfs.io then it's current
<JCaesar> oO
<JCaesar> mh. it is cloudflare. maybe they have another level of caches. but that'd be meh.
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<mayli> ipns from ipfs.io is really slow compared to cloudflare-ipfs.com/ipns
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