<kristianpaul> azonenberg: btw glade is non free sofyware, had you tried http://www.toped.org.uk ?
<kristianpaul> azonenberg: may be you can export cat design in glade to a more generic format, so i can replace the glade screenshot for the news
<kristianpaul> or may be even export to a format toped can work with
<kristianpaul> i understand is not priority to you in your tests, but is good to know there are floss-likes alterntives as well
<wolfspraul> kristianpaul: I think glade and toped both deal with standardized file formats
<wolfspraul> gds, lef, def
<kristianpaul> good :-)
<wolfspraul> magic maybe too, don't know
<wolfspraul> I know too little about those tools :-)
<kristianpaul> azonenberg_work: if you can export the cat from to glade to a EDA format i can try toped later and let you know results
<kristianpaul> okay i'm late now, read you soon !
<lekernel> kristianpaul, do we really need to care about such details?
<lekernel> "promotion of non-free software" ... phew
<lekernel> how irrelevant
<wolfspraul> ah yes, I care. I cannot leave a glade screenshot in the qi wiki (kristianpaul wrote a news item there).
<wolfspraul> that's all. everybody can use whatever they want, but I need to keep the Qi wiki maintainable...
<azonenberg> kristianpaul: I can send you a GDS
<azonenberg> i use glade purely because i've had trouble getting other tools to work
<azonenberg> That's partly the reason i havent bothered to switch yet, as long as i can export to a standard format its trivial to migrate to a free tool if i find one that i like
<azonenberg> And if you care that much, do you have any screenshots of xilinx dev tools on milkymist? :P
<wolfspraul> azonenberg: don't blame kristianpaul :-) He wrote a news entry on the Qi wiki, not milkymist (qi-hardware.com)
<wolfspraul> and no, no screenshots of xilinx dev tools there, of course. if you find any I'll delete them :-)
<wolfspraul> it's not so much about one screenshot, but since I'm maintaining the Qi wiki I need to keep my workload low, that means - no exceptions that potentially cause me work in the future...
<wolfspraul> azonenberg: Chitlesh (from Fedora Electronic Lab) mentioned toped to me once, kristianpaul also mentioned it above
<azonenberg> I'll check it out
<wolfspraul> so maybe I can open the .gds file you posted in toped and take a screenshot there. would be cool together with your microscope pictures...
<azonenberg> Sure
<wolfspraul> please feel free to use whatever tool you like, I totally didn't want to annoy anyone
<wolfspraul> I'll try it too [toped] - tomorrow...
<wolfspraul> thanks for posting the .gds link!
<azonenberg> np, if you want gds's for any other stuff i've posted i have them floating around too
<azonenberg> or can generate them in a second or so from the glade file
<wolfspraul> if it's valuable, just commit into your google code repo
<azonenberg> They're generated files is the thing, not the authoritative versions
<azonenberg> As of now the glade file in the repo is the master
<wolfspraul> ah great then
<azonenberg> if/when i change tools i'll delete the glade versions and start committing that tool's native format
<azonenberg> if it happens to be gds fine, but i think its more useful for interchange than forr editing as it lacks some metadata that can be useful during design
<kristianpaul> azonenberg: sure sure i understand, no problem, yes please send to mail :)
<kristianpaul> ah,i miss the link above :)