devyn changed the topic of #elliottcable to: 22:53:14 <+whitequark> also there was a fragment about Swiss embassy being located on top of a 1000-ft pole, inside which there was a gigantic arms exhibit
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<cuttle>
joelteon: success for a long time in absense of the internet
<cuttle>
joelteon: so they don't really need to be *good* at anything, just adequate, for the plebs to be ok with it
<joelteon>
ok
<joelteon>
it feels like going back to 1995
<whitequark>
also, horrible inertia and resistance to change and practically active opposition to everything new
<joelteon>
figures
<cuttle>
haha yeah
<joelteon>
i have to suppress my revulsion and work with it
<cuttle>
becas $$$
<alexgordon>
hi cuttle
<alexgordon>
cuttle: how is college?
<alexgordon>
how many girls have you, erm, made love to?
<whitequark>
or boys
<alexgordon>
whitequark: true, he is mormon after all
<whitequark>
by the way, the noun scale in english is incomplete
<alexgordon>
scale as in fish scales?
<whitequark>
sorted by age: girl, ???, woman
<alexgordon>
oh lol
<purr>
lol
<alexgordon>
whitequark: girl, girl woman
<alexgordon>
boy, man, man
<whitequark>
russian has this term for ??? which would mean someone college-age
<whitequark>
or high-school
<alexgordon>
the word is girl :P
<alexgordon>
or chick I guess
<whitequark>
chick has derogatory connotations
<alexgordon>
it does?
<alexgordon>
it's just something you don't say to someone's face
<whitequark>
...
<alexgordon>
there's a difference
<alexgordon>
"that chick is fucking hot"
<alexgordon>
is not derogatory...
<whitequark>
I would actually say it is, solely based on your own definition
<alexgordon>
it's just crude
<whitequark>
'don't say it to someone's face'
<alexgordon>
if so that implies there's such a thing as a derogatory compliment
<whitequark>
erm, obviously?
<alexgordon>
anyway, if not chick then, uhhh
<whitequark>
for example
<whitequark>
'you're quite clever for a girl'
<alexgordon>
nah that's a backhanded compliment
<whitequark>
gah, semantics
<whitequark>
fuck semantics, that's not what I was asking about
<whitequark>
so to continue, girl doesn't make it clear whether the person in subject is a child or not
<alexgordon>
oh also BrE/AmE difference
<alexgordon>
I'm told that americans don't do the emphasised quite thing
<whitequark>
which is exactly the difference ??? makes
<alexgordon>
"it was _quite_ good" -> means it's bad
<whitequark>
that's stupid
<alexgordon>
fuck you I'm english it's our language
<alexgordon>
:P
<whitequark>
naw, english is a family of loosely related languages
<whitequark>
honestly BrE and AmE are different enough they shouldn't be both called english
<alexgordon>
I dunno
<whitequark>
and there's this weird pidgin the internet, academia, and business speaks worldwide
<alexgordon>
I couldn't stand it if people went around saying they spoke "American"
<alexgordon>
I would have to kill myself, or move to china
<whitequark>
don't tempt me
<alexgordon>
at least you're closer
<whitequark>
eh?
<alexgordon>
to china!
<alexgordon>
;)
<whitequark>
why would *I* move to china
<alexgordon>
when you get tired of hot russian girls
<alexgordon>
so probably never
<whitequark>
yeah, I'm such a chick magnet
<whitequark>
/s
<alexgordon>
trust me, better than english chicks
* alexgordon
pukes
<whitequark>
you must hold a grudge or something
<alexgordon>
I'm just stereotyping
<whitequark>
hrm, that reminds me
<joelteon>
well
<whitequark>
was the population in modern day UK subjected to witch hunts?
<joelteon>
he's right
<alexgordon>
english girls can outdrink any russian!
<joelteon>
english people are pretty grotesque
<alexgordon>
joelteon: as I'm only half english I will let that slide
<joelteon>
exactly
<joelteon>
which side of you is ugly
<alexgordon>
-_-
<alexgordon>
whitequark: LOL
<purr>
LOL
<whitequark>
because I've heard the notion that, I'll quote, "german women look like horses because they killed all the nice ones in the middle ages"
<whitequark>
I don't know what is up with those horse comparison, people are usually oddly specific on that part
<alexgordon>
all the nice horses?
<alexgordon>
and replaced them with women?
<whitequark>
all the nice women
<joelteon>
there was this hot german girl on reddit once
<whitequark>
and I really don't know what is up with horses or whether that's even true
<alexgordon>
joelteon: LOL is that your sum total
<joelteon>
well
<alexgordon>
experience of german women
<joelteon>
here's the thing
<joelteon>
she got a job with a softcore porn modeling company or something
<joelteon>
and i happened to see one of her pictures
<joelteon>
and i thought "oh, THAT's why she never showed her face."
<alexgordon>
whitequark: you know how the media has its own idea of what "attractive" is?
<alexgordon>
e.g. supermodels
<whitequark>
sure
<alexgordon>
I don't care for supermodels in any way, but apparently they are the most attractive women
<alexgordon>
whitequark: well for some reason the british media thinks that women who look like horses are more attractive
<whitequark>
seriously what is up with you people and horses
<whitequark>
repressed bestiality?
<alexgordon>
findus beef lasagne
<joelteon>
well no, it's that british women look like horses
<alexgordon>
joelteon: *some* do
<alexgordon>
most don't
<alexgordon>
but the horsey ones seem to get more airtime for some reason. I can never work it out
<alexgordon>
anyway there's a shitton of eastern europeans in london, hopefully that will get rid of the bad genes
<joelteon>
hopefully
<alexgordon>
not that I would ever, ever, ever, ever marry an english girl
<alexgordon>
I miss california :(
<joelteon>
all the girls here are asians
<joelteon>
which is fine
<joelteon>
but i don't ever see any girls anyway
<alexgordon>
joelteon: ALL of them?
<alexgordon>
did you accidentially korea?
<alexgordon>
joelteon: all I know is that you can walk around many places in england and not see a single attractive girl, whereas in california it's ridiculous how common attractive people are
<joelteon>
well
<joelteon>
there's a lot of asians
<joelteon>
i don't see many girls at all
<joelteon>
i have some female coworkers, who are mostly white/asian
<joelteon>
one who is some kind of brown
<alexgordon>
wait, there's a lot of asians, but you don't see many girls?
<joelteon>
there's a lot of asians in california
<alexgordon>
are asian girls not girls?
<alexgordon>
or you only see asian men?
<joelteon>
all the girls i see when i'm out grocery shopping are asians
<joelteon>
or most
<joelteon>
not all
<joelteon>
there's a lot of asians in general around here
<joelteon>
i see a lot of asian men grocery shopping as well
<joelteon>
also some white people
<alexgordon>
I didn't experience that at all in san francisco
<joelteon>
and by "girls"
<joelteon>
i mean "women"
<joelteon>
as in
<alexgordon>
I mean I've never seen so many non-chinese in one place
<joelteon>
"middle-aged women"
<alexgordon>
*non-chinese asians
<joelteon>
them and 5-13 year olds
<joelteon>
not a lot of girls my age
<joelteon>
i think they're all in school or something
<alexgordon>
what nationalities are they?
<alexgordon>
there's asians then there's asians...
<joelteon>
dunno
<alexgordon>
you don't know?! you live there!
<alexgordon>
LOL
<purr>
LOL
<joelteon>
not smart enough to tell
<joelteon>
there's asians
<joelteon>
east asians
<alexgordon>
white skin or olive skin?
<joelteon>
the ones with the eyes
<alexgordon>
-___-
<joelteon>
yeah those
<whitequark>
lol
<alexgordon>
can you really not tell the difference between chinese, japanese, korean, etc?
<joelteon>
absolutely not
<joelteon>
who cares
<alexgordon>
wow
<joelteon>
nah i'm kidding
<joelteon>
but seriously
<joelteon>
i cant tell
<alexgordon>
I can't work out if I have an obscure skill or you don't have a common one
<alexgordon>
japanese people look like japanese people
<whitequark>
actually, who cares? I wouldn't care whether you're american or spanish or whatever, why would I care which one of CJK you are
<alexgordon>
chinese people look like chinese people
<joelteon>
my dad can tell them apart after working with japanese people for 12 years
<whitequark>
you just have a good sense of faces
<whitequark>
I can't remember faces at all, for example
<joelteon>
yeah don't get too far ahead of yourself
<alexgordon>
whitequark: oh I don't *care* but I just didn't think it was difficult
<whitequark>
if my life was depending on recogniing aces i'll long be dead
<alexgordon>
it's like being able to tell the difference between an american car and a french car
<alexgordon>
they just look different
<whitequark>
they do/
<whitequark>
*&
<whitequark>
ARGH
<whitequark>
FUCK
<whitequark>
FUCK THIS KEYBOARD RANDOMLY WORKING AND RANDOMLY BREAKING
<whitequark>
I'M FUCKING OUTTA HERE
<alexgordon>
joelteon: when I went to SF I saw mostly filipinos I think, but they're easy to spot because they have brownish skin
<joelteon>
oh those too
<joelteon>
there's a hot filipino at my job
<alexgordon>
who is he?
<joelteon>
nice one
<joelteon>
i'd go with "what's his name" since "who is [s]he" is a hard question to answer
<alexgordon>
joelteon: london has a ridiculous number of chinese people now
<alexgordon>
I'm not sure if they're tourists or students, but I'm seeing more and more
<joelteon>
>_>
<joelteon>
i should go to school
<alexgordon>
it's 5am...
<alexgordon>
ok, 4:30
<alexgordon>
was that like a general "I should go to school at some point in my future"
<alexgordon>
or do you actually live in china?
<joelteon>
yeah
<joelteon>
i should go to school to meet people my own age
<joelteon>
and have sex with the female ones
<alexgordon>
why not just go to the approximate location of one?
<alexgordon>
or ask that "hot filipino" out
<joelteon>
i did, she has a boyfriend
<alexgordon>
doesn't she want two?
<joelteon>
oh, go to a school?
<joelteon>
just like stand next to one?
<joelteon>
sounds good
<alexgordon>
I don't know how old you are (I never know with this channel)
<joelteon>
19
<alexgordon>
ok so you can't drink (ha ha, should've come to england)
<joelteon>
ha ha
<alexgordon>
generally where there's colleges, there's students
<alexgordon>
they do let them out you know
<joelteon>
ok
<alexgordon>
you don't actually have to study at a school to uh, benefit from it
<joelteon>
yeah
<joelteon>
well, i do have to go to work sometimes
<alexgordon>
although 19 is a bit of an awkward age because you don't have high school girls, but the college girls prefer guys 20+
<alexgordon>
but don't let that stop you :D
<joelteon>
ok
<alexgordon>
haha not buying it eh?
<alexgordon>
you could try a haskell meetup
<joelteon>
yeah that'll work
<joelteon>
dude
<joelteon>
THAT
<joelteon>
would be crazy
<alexgordon>
wow I never realized how important the nile was until now
* alexgordon
just looked at it on google maps
<joelteon>
what if i met a hot girl at a haskell meetup
<joelteon>
in san francisco
<alexgordon>
egypt is desert, but with a strip of green that follows the nile
<alexgordon>
you'd be better off at a Ruby meetup, full of girls
<alexgordon>
though most of them have penises
<joelteon>
absolutely
<joelteon>
oh well
<joelteon>
time to go out and see if there's any food
<joelteon>
brb
<alexgordon>
brb in 8 hours
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<joelteon>
ok
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<devyn>
joelteon, cuttle: my fucking bank mandates 5 to 8 char passwords, alphanumeric only
<devyn>
I'll bet they don't even hash them
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<cuttle>
devyn: oh god
<devyn>
cuttle: I'm sure it's all about lowering tech support costs as well. Too many old people who can't remember the piece of paper where they wrote their password on
<cuttle>
:p
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<joelteon>
I'm on the internet
<joelteon>
!!!!!!
* purr
scolds joelteon and puts them in a time out.
<Navarr>
*pokes ec* what's the difference between Julian Sol and Swatch Internet Time?