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devyn changed the topic of #elliottcable to: 22:53:14 <+whitequark> also there was a fragment about Swiss embassy being located on top of a 1000-ft pole, inside which there was a gigantic arms exhibit
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whitequark >
"sorry, this content is not available"
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whitequark >
oh, works with UK proxy
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whitequark >
oh, that's actually nice
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whitequark >
both spotify and the song
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alexgordon: important question: is eggplant actually called bunglespleen in the UK?
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vil: no
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vil >
that's a good word
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alexgordon >
vil: it's called aubergine
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vil >
that's only an ok word
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alexgordon >
it doesn't contain "spleen" so it's less disgusting...
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vil >
yeah it definitely sounds more edible
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joelteon >
alexgordon: so when you hear "bag of chips", do you picture a brown paper sack full of french fries
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alexgordon >
I think of a bag of Kettle Chips
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alexgordon >
and chips are not french fries
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vil >
I think of Lays because branding works
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alexgordon >
vil: *walkers, and they're called crisps
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alexgordon >
ironically, this distinction is mostly america's doing
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alexgordon >
because before mcdonalds, people would have called "french fries" chips
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alexgordon >
but because mcdonalds don't
*sell* normal sized chips, and insist on calling them "fries", it became the new name for it
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alexgordon >
now I want chips
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vil >
lol mcdonalds
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vil >
branding works
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vil >
and now I really want some fries and or chips
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nuck >
So what's everybody been up to in here?
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vil >
my life has been consumed by Homestuck
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nuck >
My life is consumed by traps
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nuck >
And writing a new danbooru in not-rails
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I'm still working on Conduit, not as hard as I should be
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my nose hurts so much
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vil >
what have you been doing with it?
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joelteon >
it's running
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joelteon >
and has been for two weeks
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nuck >
vil: What is Condiot again?
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nuck >
I've got a full load of projects. I'm the unofficial maintainer of pomf.se's PHP codebase
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nuck >
And I'm trying to build a language with no idea what I'm doing. But that's obviously how I learn best, diving head first with no clue
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cuttle >
nuck: what kind of language?
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nuck >
implicit reactive graphics language
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nuck >
Well, reactive language with a standard library geared towards graphics
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nuck >
I got tired of rewriting my desktop widgets in 4 different languages for the people who wanted my designs on their WM
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nuck >
Apparently Linux lacks in good designers
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cuttle >
oh hell yeah reactive graphics
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cuttle >
I love reactive stuff
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cuttle >
tell me more about it
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nuck >
It's poorly specified, I just figured that widgets ought to be reacting to changes in the system state
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nuck >
Whether that be wifi status, volume, battery, whatever
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nuck >
Instead of pinging every n ms
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nuck >
And I have unique requirements: it needs to work in Lua, C, and JS
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nuck >
This was written a few months ago
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nuck >
I'm not 100% sure on the type system still
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nuck >
But I know I need reactive-imperative
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whitequark >
why do you need a language?
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whitequark >
it's incredibly simple to write a reactive library on top of an existing language
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whitequark >
in fact, I would recommend you to take Scheme: it has existing compilers to C (Chicken), JS (there's a bunch) and a Lua one either exists or is trivial to write
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whitequark >
and of course it has libraries for FRP
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whitequark >
that sounds like an ideal solution for you
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nuck >
Part of this is for shits and giggles
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whitequark >
well, either you have your own language, or you have something practically usable :p
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nuck >
I like making things harder than they have to be. Easy solutions are boring solutions
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cuttle >
whitequark: well i mean writing a language is a learning experience
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cuttle >
whitequark: seems like the arrows might be better pointing the other way but looks cool
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* Determinist
grrrs
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cuttle >
Determinist: hi
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cuttle >
how is it going
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Determinist >
living, working, the usual.
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cuttle >
i just moved back up to college
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Determinist >
about to release a new version of my system. working on a new startup, about to raise a round.
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cuttle >
what is it?
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Determinist >
a debate system
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Determinist >
brb, kid going apeshit again
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cuttle >
sounds interesting
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aw yeah netsplit
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AWWW YEAAHH
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oh god I can't watch stroustrup to talk
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it's incredibly sleep-inducing
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I'm dozing off in one minute and I need to sit through forty
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he just spent about five minutes saying, basically, "templates are horribly ugly"
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whitequark: hahahah yeah
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whitequark: haha yeah he's so verbose
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