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devyn changed the topic of #elliottcable to: 22:53:14 <+whitequark> also there was a fragment about Swiss embassy being located on top of a 1000-ft pole, inside which there was a gigantic arms exhibit
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joelteon >
is it a good idea to give NOPASSWD privileges to /sbin/{start,stop,restart} service for a user?
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joelteon >
what do you guys use to write slideshows
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prophile >
joelteon: pen and paper
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joelteon >
brilliant
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prophile >
I've used one of the pandoc HTML5 things in the past
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prophile >
s5 maybe?
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joelteon >
s5 is ok
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joelteon >
i just won't write a slideshow
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joelteon >
what I can say is that mysql is probably the worst technology ever to be invented
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jesusabdullah >
joelteon: tmcw/big or latex + beamer
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whitequark >
wow, starbound sold a million copies
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whitequark >
that's A LOT
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whitequark >
and it's not even released yet
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alexgordon >
HN's lispers defend the use of macros
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alexgordon >
I say "defend" because I'm not convinced
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joelteon >
i can't believe people suck at technical interviews
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joelteon >
dude just had me write a set with linear time insertion and deletion
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joelteon >
apparently people have a lot of trouble with that
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alexgordon >
joelteon: haha you should ask sammcd
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alexgordon >
joelteon: he was complaining about how shitty candidates are yesterday ;)
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whitequark >
joelteon: a set with linear time insertion and deletion?
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whitequark >
that's weird
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joelteon >
yeah, it's
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whitequark >
a set based on a hash table is amortized O(1), why would anyone want a O(n) set?
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joelteon >
don't ask me
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joelteon >
i didn't start the company
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whitequark >
alexgordon: can't read that
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whitequark >
have HN blocked in hosts
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alexgordon >
whitequark: ah right
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convenes HN anonymous
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alexgordon >
whitequark: I relapsed today
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alexgordon >
I wrote a comment
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alexgordon >
I put it back in hosts though
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whitequark >
talking about macros... I do think that having a way to extend language syntax is beneficial
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whitequark >
I do not think that metaprogramming with macros is, by itself, a very good idea
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whitequark >
but it's simple and generic enough so maybe it is
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whitequark >
iow: when you want attr_reader, you don't really want syntax, you want metaprogramming. macros are an implementation detail.
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whitequark >
but, when you want monadic do, you do want syntax. the latter is waaaay more rare, yet similarly way more powerful when used properly.
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whitequark >
I think a language should do both, ideally.
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alexgordon >
whitequark: the context is a "class" macro in javascript
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alexgordon >
class Rabbit { method "blah" function() { ... } }
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whitequark >
alexgordon: well... that's a bad idea regardless of macros
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whitequark >
you get ten different libs using ten incompatible object systems
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alexgordon >
whitequark: what's new!