devyn changed the topic of #elliottcable to: 22:53:14 <+whitequark> also there was a fragment about Swiss embassy being located on top of a 1000-ft pole, inside which there was a gigantic arms exhibit
Sgeo has joined #elliottcable
yorick has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
alexgordon has quit [Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…]
Determinist has joined #elliottcable
Determinist has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
Determinist has joined #elliottcable
eligrey has quit [Quit: Leaving]
duckinator has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
<joelteon> is it a good idea to give NOPASSWD privileges to /sbin/{start,stop,restart} service for a user?
duckinator has joined #elliottcable
Determinist has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com]
Sorella has joined #elliottcable
alexgordon has joined #elliottcable
judofyr has joined #elliottcable
yorick has joined #elliottcable
judofyr has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
fwg has joined #elliottcable
duckinator has quit [*.net *.split]
joelteon has quit [*.net *.split]
duckinator has joined #elliottcable
joelteon has joined #elliottcable
fwg has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
fwg has joined #elliottcable
eligrey has joined #elliottcable
Sorella has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
Sorella has joined #elliottcable
Sorella has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
Sorella has joined #elliottcable
Sorella has quit [Changing host]
Sorella has joined #elliottcable
<joelteon> what do you guys use to write slideshows
PragCypher has joined #elliottcable
Sorella has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
<prophile> joelteon: pen and paper
<joelteon> brilliant
<prophile> I've used one of the pandoc HTML5 things in the past
<prophile> s5 maybe?
othiym23 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
<joelteon> s5 is ok
<joelteon> meh
<joelteon> i just won't write a slideshow
<joelteon> what I can say is that mysql is probably the worst technology ever to be invented
<jesusabdullah> joelteon: tmcw/big or latex + beamer
<Navarr> meow
sharkbot has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
sharkbot has joined #elliottcable
<whitequark> wow, starbound sold a million copies
<whitequark> that's A LOT
<whitequark> and it's not even released yet
<alexgordon> whitequark: you'll appreciate this https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7025261
<alexgordon> HN's lispers defend the use of macros
<alexgordon> I say "defend" because I'm not convinced
<joelteon> i can't believe people suck at technical interviews
<joelteon> dude just had me write a set with linear time insertion and deletion
<joelteon> apparently people have a lot of trouble with that
<alexgordon> joelteon: haha you should ask sammcd
<alexgordon> joelteon: he was complaining about how shitty candidates are yesterday ;)
<joelteon> lol
<purr> lol
<whitequark> joelteon: a set with linear time insertion and deletion?
<whitequark> that's weird
<joelteon> yeah, it's
<whitequark> a set based on a hash table is amortized O(1), why would anyone want a O(n) set?
<joelteon> don't ask me
<joelteon> i didn't start the company
<whitequark> alexgordon: can't read that
<whitequark> have HN blocked in hosts
<alexgordon> whitequark: ah right
* alexgordon convenes HN anonymous
<alexgordon> whitequark: I relapsed today
<alexgordon> I wrote a comment
<whitequark> heh
<alexgordon> I put it back in hosts though
<whitequark> talking about macros... I do think that having a way to extend language syntax is beneficial
<whitequark> I do not think that metaprogramming with macros is, by itself, a very good idea
<whitequark> but it's simple and generic enough so maybe it is
<whitequark> iow: when you want attr_reader, you don't really want syntax, you want metaprogramming. macros are an implementation detail.
<whitequark> but, when you want monadic do, you do want syntax. the latter is waaaay more rare, yet similarly way more powerful when used properly.
<whitequark> I think a language should do both, ideally.
<alexgordon> whitequark: the context is a "class" macro in javascript
<alexgordon> class Rabbit { method "blah" function() { ... } }
PragCypher has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
<whitequark> alexgordon: well... that's a bad idea regardless of macros
<whitequark> you get ten different libs using ten incompatible object systems
<alexgordon> whitequark: what's new!