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<Taek>
sipa, andytoshi: do you have any good resources for learning probability?
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<kanzure>
i believe the typical procedure is "first you must strip in front of the bayesian ringleader and pledge your loyalty to volitional friendliness"
<cjd>
there's probability, risk management and statistics which overlap but are not the same
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<andytoshi>
Taek: i have a book by rosenthal that i really like, if you know measure theory first
<andytoshi>
also the first chapter or two of that E T Jaynes book that eliezer yudkowsky likes, where he shows that you can derive the laws of probability from intuitive properties of "how confident am i that X will happen"
<andytoshi>
(but then put the book down, he starts rambling about how he doesn't believe in infinity then proceeds to spend hundreds of pages deriving things in a completely handicapped way so that he can avoid ever using infinities)
<andytoshi>
Taek: http://probability.ca/jeff/grprobbook.html is the rosethal book, if you think it looks good i can bring it to scaling bitcoin milan and lend it to you indefinitely
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<cjd>
there is no such thing as indefinitely
<Taek>
hehe there might be an exception when I'm borrowing something
<Taek>
(jk)
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<Taek>
andytoshi: I think I would appreciate having it
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<andytoshi>
cjd: i mean i'm going to give it to him but at some point in the far future act as though i have a right to demand it back :P
<cjd>
Inifinity... no such thing
<cjd>
;)
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