<Turl>
the 66AK2Hx platform provides up to 5.6 GHz of ARM and 11.2 GHz of DSP processing coupled with security and packet processing and Ethernet switching,
<Turl>
TI is now into chinese marketing? :P
<fragmint>
well, it's not chinese until you combine the two
<fragmint>
then advertive it
<fragmint>
er call it the a16 16.8ghz processor!
<Turl>
16.8Ghz for ultimate processing power
<penguin42>
oh god, it's still like cheap hi-fi
<Turl>
PMPO watts
<penguin42>
stereo pmpo watts
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<Turl>
penguin42: what was it that pmpo really meant?
<penguin42>
wtf ever knew!
<servili007>
Turl: Are you going to be around for a bit tonight?
<Turl>
servili007: possibly
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<Turl>
it's like 11PM over here fwiw
<servili007>
oh? where is that?
<servili007>
Turl: I'm still doing some testing, but it seems that with G2D disabled, I can't draw UI to the screen at all
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<Turl>
servili007: Argentina
<Turl>
servili007: maybe that function triggers on HDMI only? I do all my testing on the LCD display
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<servili007>
Turl: Confirmed, Device won't draw without g2d. Also, that definition check for HDMI audio didn't take for some reason while building, I had to edit it manually again
<Turl>
did you make clean?
<servili007>
clobbered
<Turl>
that should be enough, where did you add the line?
<servili007>
boardconfig, line 23, between recovery keymapping and target_kernel_config
<Turl>
servili007: if you go to common dir and run git log, do you see the patches I added?
<Turl>
(device/aw/common)
<servili007>
yeah I can see your changes adding the ifdef section to audio_hw.c
<servili007>
and the commit in git log
<Turl>
try this
<Turl>
add obviously invalid c code on the hdmi part of the ifdef
<Turl>
then "mmm -B audio" from inside device/aw/common
<Turl>
(and having lunch/breakfast'ed your device accordingly)
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<servili007>
Turl: Getting complaints about missing TARGET_KERNEL_CONFIG variable (obviously is not missing) and no rule to make target export_includes for one of the audio intermediates
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<servili007>
anyone have suggestions for troubleshooting hardware accel not working on an mk802ii jellybean build?
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<sky770>
hey guys
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<ssvb>
libv: a silly question, are there any open source GLES based games, which do not dependent on proprietary graphics data and can be compiled out of the box without any weird tweaks?
<penguin42>
does anyone have RkBatchTool installed and can tell me the value of the windows registery keys HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Enum\USB\Vid_* for it?
<WarheadsSE>
xman: what kernel source are you using?
<xman>
dram_size = 256 and dram_baseaddr= new
<fragmint>
my poor router!
<fragmint>
it must be weak from lack of water.
* fragmint
goes to get his router a glass of water
<WarheadsSE>
xman: what KERNEL source are you using
<xman>
i uses linux-3.0.57+
<WarheadsSE>
okay, so you are uising the linux-sunxi/linux-sunxi @ sunxi-3.0
<xman>
but my board is wifi, it is work very well
<WarheadsSE>
does the wifi have the AXP209 on it?
<techn_>
with 256MB ram you propably need to disable mali, framebuffer and g2d.. memmap hard coded to somewhere 400-500MB
<xman>
WarheadsSE, can i post our conversation in forum?
<WarheadsSE>
Feel free. If you want, I will pull the fex from the debian preliminary image. I already extracted that. I am running Arch Linux ARM now.
<WarheadsSE>
For the moment, they need to use the provided kernel source repository, and the associated uboot.
<xman>
ok
<WarheadsSE>
I am working with those here to bring the needed changes upstream.
<xman>
how is your fex now?
<Turl>
Alex1269: I'll send it upstream if you don't mind
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<vinifr>
WarheadsSE: how is your fex now?
<WarheadsSE>
vinifr: I am using the one extracted from the debian pre-image
<WarheadsSE>
If you are using the unmodified SPL/uboot, it flakes anyways.
<vinifr>
i have another question, how i send msg directed to someone, like that <WarheadsSE> vinifr: I am using the one extracted from the debian pre-image :)
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<buZz>
type first couple of letters of his name, then press <tab>
<WarheadsSE>
vinifr: I just type in the name.
<vinifr>
vinifr, test
<vinifr>
vinifr, WarheadsSE test
<vinifr>
WarheadsSE, test
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<vinifr>
:) how?
<jelly-home>
that was it. Did you mean a private message that others cannot see?
<vinifr>
no, all can see
<jelly-home>
vinifr: that's it. <vinifr> WarheadsSE, test
<vinifr>
vinifr, jelly-home: test
<vinifr>
i can not :)
<jelly-home>
works for me
<WarheadsSE>
worked for me.
<vinifr>
what exactly do I need to enter?
<WarheadsSE>
we're telling you, it worked.
<WarheadsSE>
unless it is meant to be private, simply mentioning their name is all you need to do for *their* client to notify them.
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<netchip>
hey
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<netchip>
i was wondering
<netchip>
if i would find a reference design of the SMDK4x12 board
<netchip>
could I let a few getting produced?
<netchip>
or do I speak about thousands, then?
<rz2k>
isnt 4412 only OEMs chip?
<rz2k>
so you need that thousands to get it..
<netchip>
=/
<netchip>
busy with making my own phone
<netchip>
seeing if that's possible
<WarheadsSE>
possible, yes. easy? no. made easy? no
<netchip>
because, then I have to do all myself, and I have all the source codes
<WarheadsSE>
You might have to settle with easier to procure SoC
<netchip>
im probbaly a bit naive yeah
<netchip>
like?
* WarheadsSE
shrug
<netchip>
ah
<netchip>
hmk
<rz2k>
imx6q?
<netchip>
rz2k, what I can order for example two of those?
<rz2k>
freescale chips are available at farnell
<rz2k>
for minor customers
<rz2k>
reference schematic and 5k pages manual are at freescale's website.
<buZz>
did you see the same guy now did similar on a attiny?
<buZz>
its amazingly cool
<buZz>
of course not really productive, but ok
<RaYmAn>
It's an awesome "because-you-can" project, heh
<buZz>
indeed :)
<penguin42>
netchip: In principal the rk3066 *should* be unbrickable; with the inbuilt stuff to let you reflash; the only thing stopping it is if they were to get off their arse and release the protocol
<penguin42>
netchip: Hmm although I guess they do say to get into that you need to short a pin so hmm
<buZz>
yeah, stuff like that blocks me wanting to buy a rk3066 device
<RaYmAn>
that's another area freescale rocks in - their low-level usb recovery tool is open source (though, windows only, but given source is there, it's trivial to port)
<penguin42>
buZz: Yeh well I bricked it trying to put my own kernel on, purely dding to the rescue partition - apparently that's a no-no because the flash drivers are so borked
<buZz>
RaYmAn: but nobody ported it?
<buZz>
then its probably not so trivial ;)
<RaYmAn>
not publicly at least
<RaYmAn>
but freescale hasn't tradionally been very consumer oriented
<RaYmAn>
so the amount of low-level hacking has been quite low
<buZz>
yeah, the idea of 'consumer' vs 'developer' should disappear imho
<RaYmAn>
with e.g. wandboard and such it becomes more likely
<buZz>
the world is not so black&white :)
<buZz>
all consumers should be able to access developer information on devices they own
<buZz>
and visa versa
<RaYmAn>
consumers don't care or even know about all this usually
<RaYmAn>
but I agree, it should be like that
<RaYmAn>
I just don't think it would really be worthwhile from a business perspective
<buZz>
thats why i also like allwinner devices, much of the developer documentation is open
<RaYmAn>
lol
<Turl>
servili007: :)
<buZz>
although not as open as TI's omap stuff
<RaYmAn>
open?
<buZz>
available ;)
<RaYmAn>
NDA'd/leaked datasheets and originally mostly leaked code
<buZz>
good enough for me
<buZz>
like this android phone i have, the ZTE Blade
<RaYmAn>
sure, it might be good enough. But you can hardly call it open
<buZz>
ZTE never released any documents for it, but left bootloader open enough for custom ROM development
<penguin42>
buZz: Ah yeh I've got one of those; with Cyanogen on
<servili007>
eh, that's just allwinners interpretation of open sourcing ;)
<buZz>
penguin42: yeah, just installed the CM10.1 released yesterday ;)
<penguin42>
buZz: They got 10 backported to the older phones? Oooh - I've still got 7 on
<buZz>
backported?
<buZz>
how is it back ...
<penguin42>
buZz: Oh 10 etc had been on the newer ones for about a year, but I'd given up looking because it looked like the older machines had stopped at 7
<buZz>
10.1 btw, not 10
<buZz>
well there is 10 aswell
<buZz>
10 has been on Blade for a year aswell
<penguin42>
(maybe not 10, I mean something newer than 7)
<buZz>
bottom line is, i want access to the hardware to do my bidding, be it through leaked docs/code like the ZTE Blade / Allwinner devices , or actually supported and released code like TI OMAP
<penguin42>
buZz: The Rockchip has a large chunk of the kernel source out there - certainly you can rebuild a kernel for it, but there are a few .o's for unusual things including the nand flash
<buZz>
sad, but it can boot from SD?
<penguin42>
buZz: No
<buZz>
boo
<buZz>
out the window :D
<buZz>
i will no longer buy a single cored arm btw ;)
<buZz>
think my next will be the Odroid U2
<penguin42>
buZz: It seems to boot from nand flash and then the default boot loader on mine let it do the normal androidy type rescue/main thing - but it has two reflash mechanism over usb
<buZz>
also, i wont be buying another laptop, as i want to stick to using a Lapdock and just upgrade whatever device i connect to it
<buZz>
like that EOMA project but less vaporware ;)
<buZz>
maybe if i can delay buying the odroid, they will release an odroid based on that Exynos Octo
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<buZz>
think its really cool how they mix different cores on one chip
<penguin42>
buZz: Be careful of that
<buZz>
of what?
<buZz>
the odroid in general?
<buZz>
samsung?
<buZz>
delaying?
<penguin42>
buZz: Well I'm assuming you can only use 4 cores at once
<buZz>
lapdock?
<buZz>
i will make no assumptions on use until i see it ;)
<penguin42>
buZz: So if that's true it seems a bit misleading to call it an 8 core
<buZz>
its ARM's design
<RaYmAn>
it has 8 cores either way ;)
<buZz>
the LITTLEbig think
<buZz>
thing*
<penguin42>
RaYmAn: Well true
* penguin42
loops back to the PMPO discussion from about 5 hours ago
<buZz>
of course i have infinite trust in the endless wisdom of our gods at ARM
<RaYmAn>
but yeah, so far it sounds like it's max 4 cores at a time
<RaYmAn>
though, it sounded a lot like you could mix and match
<buZz>
is there anything beside the press release in terms of documentation about it?
<RaYmAn>
not from samsung afaik - arm might have more?
<WarheadsSE>
u-boot patch for a13 (and associated NO_AXP) emailed Turl thanks for the ear.
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<netchip>
so
<netchip>
in the end a tablet with an iMX6Q is my best choice?
<RaYmAn>
it depends on what you need/want. There's no one-size-fits-all :P
<netchip>
btw
<netchip>
RaYmAn, Open source is a REALLY big deal. I need to have 80% open source, only EGL/wifi may IMHO be closed source
<netchip>
and if it's a GSM module, GSM
<RaYmAn>
imx6q has the advantage that they actually fully support X11 and such
<netchip>
and they support Android
<RaYmAn>
most do
<netchip>
I know ;-) I have downloaded their Android patches
<netchip>
buZz, I really don't know how to find stuff like that :-D
<buZz>
like what?
<netchip>
vulnerabilties such as your pw hack
<buZz>
oh
<buZz>
i copied the security programs (vulnerability one)
<buZz>
then analyzed the program (which was unencrypted, vuln. two)
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<buZz>
had some filenames inside which i could copy aswell (vuln. three)
<buZz>
which just had the password in plaintxt (vuln. four)
<buZz>
changed all the passwords and gave the sysadmin the new passwords on a note
<buZz>
next day he gave me root access and asked for help to improve all this ;)
<netchip>
:p
<netchip>
it was linux?
<buZz>
no, windows 3.1 mixed with netware
<buZz>
linux hardly was used back then, 2.0 kernel wasnt even released
<netchip>
why don't schools ever use linux *sigh*
<netchip>
it works so well
<WarheadsSE>
netchip: because oversight is not simple.
<netchip>
Install ubuntu 12.04
<buZz>
it works well now
<netchip>
chown some directories
<buZz>
a lot of schools _are_ using it
<netchip>
setup ZFS
<WarheadsSE>
words are easy, reality is harder
<netchip>
buZz, my primary and secundary don't, maybe universities do it
<WarheadsSE>
People tend to dislike effory.
<netchip>
WarheadsSE, /home/teachers /home/students and make groups and then chown them
<buZz>
probably your school does use it netchip
<buZz>
they just dont know they are
<netchip>
buZz, it's Windows, with thin clients
<buZz>
like in a router, accesspoint, printer, fax
<buZz>
etc
<netchip>
Yeah
<netchip>
but I mean
<WarheadsSE>
netchip: Again, no, rinse and repeat for +1000 people or several thousand
<netchip>
the servers
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<netchip>
WarheadsSE, 700 people
<buZz>
router isnt a server?
<buZz>
i disagree
<netchip>
buZz, router != server IMHO
<netchip>
you could say
<netchip>
class router extends server
<netchip>
;)
<buZz>
if its running linux, is headless, and has ssh or telnet, i call it a server
<netchip>
so it basically is yeah
<netchip>
but it isn't
<netchip>
well i don't know
<buZz>
also, probably your teachers have android phones
<buZz>
which are linux systems with some weird app google made
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<netchip>
buZz, This is about what *I* see and how it's managed, what the data boxes run etc
<buZz>
so a lot more linux used on your school than you (or school management) realizes
<netchip>
file servers
<netchip>
WarheadsSE, OK, you could use two file servers, one for teachers and one for students, and mount them via NFS, and preserve proper permissions
<netchip>
buZz, I agree, but I meant more like the file servers etc
<netchip>
because ZFS is da bomb
<buZz>
they probably only use what they know
<buZz>
and they dont learn new stuff, because they work in education
<netchip>
I could manage all those servers, with my Linux knowledge.
<netchip>
Yeah, true, education has much less cursusses than companies tec
<netchip>
etc
<netchip>
They don't even have their own mail server LOL
<netchip>
they use the one from the ISP
<netchip>
it's a terminal server + file servers
<buZz>
i always smile when a company tells me their email address is ....@hotmail.com, like i was smiling to some demented grandma telling me i remind them of their grandson
<netchip>
xD
<netchip>
well it is ....@schoolname
<netchip>
but it's hosted @ their ISP o_O
<netchip>
grow some balls, use linux, buy an extra file server, use ZFS, install Ubuntu LTS with Unity, auto mount
<buZz>
i dont see a problem in that
<netchip>
right home dir via NFS
<buZz>
probably their ISP has more knowledge about spamfiltering
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<buZz>
netchip: btw, this conversation is so hugely offtopic, we should move it