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<techn_> I think that sticky pixel problem is related to that disp modules memory handling
<techn_> probably memory is cached or something related to alignment
<techn_> but I'm new with those kind problems
<libv> sticky pixel?
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<techn_> libv: that problem when clearing line at fbcon leaves sticky pixels
<techn_> which disapears one by one..
<techn_> or line by line
<libv> unlikely that it is to do with any caching
<libv> i think our disp might return some wrong data that might mess up fbcon
<libv> in such a case, reproduce, and first off, check fbgrab
<techn_> libv: that's the tool to narrow the problem
<techn_> checking at once if I can see pixels there
<ssvb> techn_: it could be related to caching, for example g2d driver clearly allocates cached memory and I had to fix it - https://github.com/ssvb/linux-sunxi/commit/cdba3fd8346a6664483ce0b56e82040c7176730a
<ssvb> techn_: I think I have seen a similar chunk of remap_pfn_range code somewhere in disp sources, but could not reproduce any practical problem
<techn_> ssvb: write long line and then change row back and forward.. then you should see the problem
<techn_> or press backspace long if you have written long line
<techn_> libv: sticky pixels disapear right after I hit enter "fbgrap test.png"
<ssvb> techn_: but it's mmap for /dev/disp, and not /dev/fb0
<ssvb> techn_: I can't reproduce any problem by stuffing characters and then erasing them via writing to /dev/tty0
<ssvb> is there any other mapping for the framebuffer?
<techn_> it could be easier reproduce with 60mhz
<ssvb> aha, will try that
<ssvb> techn_: is it mk802 specific or maybe somebody has seen this on the other a10 devices?
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<ssvb> techn_: do you have CONFIG_FB_SUNXI_RESERVED_MEM enabled?
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<ssvb> techn_: in any case, it might be so that the kernelspace mapping of the framebuffer is cached (and used by fbcon), while the userspace mapping is writecombine
<ssvb> so it does not even boot for me without CONFIG_FB_SUNXI_RESERVED_MEM
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<buZz> hehe i have that sticky pixel problem aswell
<buZz> supereasy to reproduce; 1) type a multiword command on (fbdev) console 2) ctrl-left a word 3) delete its first character 4) tada, sticky pixels
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<ssvb> buZz: thanks, I'll try that
<ssvb> actually I have already reproduced the problem by enabling write-allocate cache policy, but that's a bit artificial :)
<ssvb> buZz: thanks a lot, your testcase is clearly easily reproducible
<ssvb> now let's fix it
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<buZz> yay oncoming improvement \o/
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<L84Supper> buZz: I was just looking at your model for the cubieboard case
<L84Supper> buZz: what tool are you designing with?
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<Turl> re. (00:58:18) bsdfox_: [18:20:54] wow changing mali clkdiv from 4 to 3 improved my glmark2 score from 25 to 44
<Turl> bsdfox_: I think it's the default on some devices
<rz2k> now go for ssvb's drivers
<rz2k> with caching enabled
<rz2k> it will go even better
<Turl> :)
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<buZz> L84Supper: i used FreeCAD and OpenSCAD
<buZz> L84Supper: do you like it? :)
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<ssvb> buZz: sent a hackish patch to the mailing list - https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/linux-sunxi/0YNGNfnelH8
<ssvb> techn_: ^
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<barqux> whats the status on cedarx vpu?
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<libv> ssvb: the disp driver needs to be completely rewritten, so do not worry about introducing a hack that fixes some major issue
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<hramrach> hmm, I can boot new kernel http://paste.debian.net/222187/
<hramrach> but cannot type on the serial console
<techn_> try that patch on ML
<techn_> or which branch you are using?
<hramrach> neither u-boot nor Linux accepts input
<hramrach> stage/sunxi-3.4 for linux
<hramrach> I guess the cable is connected correctly
<hramrach> gnd is connected to gnd and if rx and tx were swapped nothing would be visible
<hramrach> swapping rx and gnd does not make any difference
<hramrach> tx is obviously correct since messages are transmitted
<hramrach> at least I can confirm that u-boot built with gnueabihf works no worse than u-boot shipped on tha flash
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<hramrach> which mailing list?
<techn_> hramrach: newermind.. I though that you had problem with usb
<techn_> hramrach: telnet client problem?
<hramrach> I used this one in the past
<hramrach> and it worked
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<hramrach> also there is something wrong with boot messages
<hramrach> I see them on the serial port until the serial port is initialized
<hramrach> the last message being <6>sunxi-uart.0: ttyS0 at MMIO 0x1c28000 (irq = 1) is a U6_16550A
<libv> first boot tends to be ok
<libv> so known annoyance, please fix :)
<hramrach> I get DVI output whan I load the dri modules as described on the Mali400 page
<libv> you mean disp modules, right?
<hramrach> there is like half dozen
<hramrach> hdmi, dri, whatnot
<hansg> hramrach, the hang on loading the serial driver sounds familiar, try disabling the serial console, make sure you've no console=ttyS0 on your kernel cmdline anywhere, and make sure the modules for DVI out are loaded automatically, then you'll like see a lot of these messages on the dvi console: "
<hansg> ">>> no handle, treat it handle over"
<hramrach> hansg: I do want the serial console
<hansg> I've been debugging this issue today, as I've one A10 based "machine" which does this always
<hramrach> but it is not working
<hansg> Even on the first boot
<hramrach> I get the messages until that point and then long delay and login prompt
<hansg> hramrach, I've a fix, I'm just finalizing it, expect a patchset send to the list in a few minutes
<hramrach> thanks
<hramrach> but I suspect a more basic problem as well
<hansg> hramrach, ah, different problem. If you do get a serial login prompt, then the problem is that you should add a console=ttyS0 to the kernel cmdline
<hramrach> I even u-boot does not accept serial input
<hramrach> I do have that
<hramrach> but the console messages stop when the port is initialized
<hansg> hramrach, ah, that is yet another problem (u-boot not accepting serial input)
<hramrach> login is not accepting serial input either
<hansg> hramrach, be sure to add 115200, ie: console=ttyS0,115200
<hramrach> that I possibly don't have
<hansg> As for not accepting serial input, make sure you're not using hardware flowcontrol on the serial port. IE cu will use that if it was set on the port before
<hansg> And since there are no handshaking lines that won't work.
<hansg> Also check your cables. The first step in debugging this is to make u-boot accept serial input
<libv> the vanishing of the serial output is a known issue
<hramrach> as far as I can tell the cable is connected correctly
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<libv> with me it happens on reboots, but not on a cold boot
<hramrach> It happens every time for me
<hramrach> no serial input whatsoever
<hansg> hramrach, what serial terminal app are you using ?
<libv> then these are two separate issues
<hramrach> cu
<hramrach> can't find the options for hardware control
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<hansg> hramrach, right, cu does not have any. I've been bitten by this too, to fix, do: "stty -F /dev/ttyUSB0 -crtscts", and then start cu
<hansg> Assuming you're using a usb<->serial convertor
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<hramrach> doe not change aything
<hramrach> ah, only slow now
<hansg> so you've input now ?
<hramrach> yes, it works now. Thanks
<hansg> :)
<hansg> libv, I've just (seconds ago) send a patchset fixing various issues with the sunxi serial port code, perhaps it fixes the console-output disappearing problem ?
<hansg> I started looking at it because of a stuck interrupt issue I was having. But I also found it addressing a completely wrong pointer in sw_serial_pm, so my fixes may help.
<hramrach> uh, the cmdline is not passed
<specing> ARM uarts are quite complex
<hramrach> no, wrong terminal
<hramrach> I have only console=ttyS0 so there is even areason for it disappearing
<specing> I remember I couldn't get it to run properly (it only printed square boxes to my terminal) after fiddling with that cortex-m4f's registers through GDB for 8h
<hramrach> if the default speed is different
<hramrach> it is pretty much working here
<hramrach> less package version 444-4 ;-)
<hramrach> the apt is slow /o\
<hramrach> can I make one of the leds into hdd light?
<hramrach> I guess that's too board-specific :s
<hramrach> teh serian even works with u-boot now
<hramrach> yeah, with correct console parameters I get all output
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<hramrach> there is something wrong with the serial still
<hramrach> the screen size is incorrect
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<hramrach> seens the edid works correctly \o/
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<hramrach> how do I set up serial so that the remote and can talk to the local terminal emulater and get stuff like screen size?
<hramrach> nothing I saw so far does that
<hramrach> you have choice of cu that does pretty much nothing but atleaset is simple and minicom which is rather baroqua, asinine, and in the end has no feature over cu
<buZz> minicom can turn on/off flow control though ;)
<hramrach> stty can do that too
<buZz> yes
<hramrach> and with cu you can specify which port you want to open
<hramrach> so it's one feature gained for one lost
<buZz> minicom can do that aswell
<hramrach> no, it cannot
<buZz> minicom -D /dev/ttyUSB0
<hramrach> you have to do that in the menu
<buZz> etc
<hramrach> oh, so they at least fixed that
<buZz> about 6 years ago :D
<hramrach> that's about the time when I gave up using that
<buZz> you can also use screen as serial terminal
<buZz> but i dont know any that send screensize
<hramrach> that's cool
<hramrach> screen does not?
<buZz> havent checked
<provel_> hum... is there a way to redirect mele a2000 serial output to conserver ?
<buZz> but serial terminal is not so mainstream
<hramrach> how not mainstream?
<buZz> provel_: you can log serial data with minicom etc
<hramrach> every PC has that
<hramrach> :p
<buZz> hramrach: about 20 years ago many ppl still used serial terminals daily
<buZz> but now, not so much
<provel_> buZz : yes, but I want to log serial data in transmission... without serial cable
<hramrach> I use it every time my PC is dying
<specing> provel_: attach a MCU to it
<buZz> yes, not daily
<hramrach> I would use it more if it worked
<buZz> thats nice, go fix it :)
<hramrach> cba fixing it
<hramrach> you can use ssh too
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<buZz> ssh is not a serial terminal
<hramrach> it is not
<hramrach> but when hte system is not dying it works pretty much as nicely as serial terminal
<buZz> i use ssh 24/7
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<hramrach> hmm, does not work with screen either
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<hramrach> hmm, I get the sticky pixels all right
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<penguin42> are there any standard setups for doing networking via otg ports connected to a host pc?
<penguin42> (something like the adb ppp setup does?)
<hramrach> none that I know of
<hramrach> but you could do ppp over the serial port
<hramrach> if you have the cable
<hramrach> or slip
<penguin42> well, I haven't got serial on this board - I guess I could pop it open, but I'm guessing there is a usb-gadget to run a serial port emulation, and that would be perfect - then I wouldn't need to go via USB-ether
<hramrach> maybe look at the usb gadget docs in kernel then
<hramrach> would be cool to emulate enough ports so that you can have console *and* ppp *and* power with a single standard mini-usb cable
<penguin42> hramrach: Well exactly
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<hramrach> I do have a serial cable so not really an issue
<penguin42> right, but the bitrate on serial is YAWN
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<penguin42> I've got a 400mbps USB connection here
<hramrach> good enough for terminal
<hramrach> eternet for networking
<penguin42> yeh, so I wanted to avoid the ethernet altogether
<hramrach> would have to set up routing on the PC
<hramrach> but cool nontheless
<specing> I've uploaded kernels over serial before
<penguin42> that's easy enough
<penguin42> specing: But it's not a fun and edifying experience
<specing> 10KB/s for a 3MB image = ~ 5 minutes
<penguin42> exactly
<penguin42> ooh, there is a g_ether driver
<specing> it was still faster than transferring it over scp, flashing and rebooting
<specing> last time I tried g_ether and g_serial on A10 it didn't go well
<specing> it didn't work
<penguin42> this is an rk3066
<specing> ah
<hramrach> maybe it improved
<penguin42> specing: But doesn't adb use g_serial or similar?
<hramrach> and if it did not maybe it can be fixed
<specing> penguin42: no
<penguin42> what does it do?
<specing> idk
<specing> all I know is that g_serial didn't work for me
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<specing> thus my Gentoo/A10 efforts were abandoned due to no rx port to login
<penguin42> hmm the gadget stuff can be done in user space (gadgetfs)
<hramrach> you can send ppp frames over anything that can deliver data
<hramrach> no need to have actual serial port
<penguin42> such as pidgeons
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<specing> rfc 1149
<hramrach> indeed
<hramrach> or adb
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<hramrach> how do you get the patches from google gropus in um-mangled form?
<netchip> hey
<netchip> how can I locate the UART pins?
<hramrach> ho
<hramrach> reading schematics?
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<netchip> hramrach, do you have any examples?
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<hramrach> no. I just read some wiki pages saying where the pins are
<hramrach> for what device?
<netchip> I don't mind which, I jsut want to learn how to locate them ;)
<netchip> especially for Allwinner/Exynos
<penguin42> netchip: You're generally looking for a set of 3-4 pins; a rx, tx and ground and maybe some flow control pins
<hramrach> it's generally very hard with BGA chip and multiple layer PCB to trace the connections so you just look for something that looks slike a serial header
<specing> < netchip> how can I locate the UART pins?
<specing> oscilloscope
<netchip> what's an oscilloscope?
<specing> netchip: oscilloscope is a thingy that costs > $200
<hramrach> and shows how the pin voltages changes over time
<netchip> specing, AdamOutler (check Youtube for the livestream) located the pins by trying
<hramrach> so you can compare the graph you get with what you think a serial line would look like
<netchip> but I think that's pretty inefficient
<specing> netchip: I did the same thing
<netchip> ah
<netchip> specing, he did with his bus pirate...
<netchip> just trying until he got something useful
<specing> just that I have better equipment
<netchip> in his console
<hramrach> given device with few pins it's quite efficient
<jelly-home> specing: just $200? What kind of sampling freq
<specing> jelly-home: 20 MHz :)
<RaYmAn> usually there aren't that many left over test points that it's an issue
<hramrach> good enough for serial
<RaYmAn> (trying them all that is)
<jelly-home> good enough for serial ;-)
<netchip> <hramrach> given device with few pins it's quite efficient - oscilloscope or bus pirate?
<hramrach> either
<hramrach> or just connecting a serial cable, whatever
<specing> well my A10 board has over 500 test points
<netchip> ah...
<specing> took me 4 days to go through all the pins/uarts
<netchip> well, how do you know the voltage on the pins? Maybe you blow the board up, I don't know...
<specing> because the stock kernel couldn't use more than 4 UARTs at the same time
<specing> netchip: you measure it
<hramrach> it's in the chip datasheet
<hramrach> and you read the volatge so you don't blow it
<netchip> with bus pirate?
<specing> netchip: oscilloscope
<hramrach> you don't connect tx
<netchip> Yeah but if you don't have an oscilloscope?
<specing> netchip: UARTs should output 1 when idle
<specing> just measure it with a multimeter
<penguin42> netchip: Well if you know the pins on the chip where the uarts are connected then you can do continuity to your test pins to find them
<RaYmAn> specing: they don't always
<penguin42> netchip: You have to be careful not to blow the chip though
<netchip> so
<netchip> I can look into chip's manual, search for UART voltage, adjust my Bus Pirate on that and go try all the pins?
<hramrach> you don't see the pins on bga chip
<hramrach> basically
<netchip> How do I even know I have UART without an oscilloscope?
<hramrach> it's in chip datasheet
<hramrach> it may not be on any pin, sure
<RaYmAn> you hope you have the right speed and wait for data to pop up :P
<specing> RaYmAn: they do in my experience
<specing> RaYmAn: even A10
<hramrach> but most devices will have one for factory testing
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<specing> RaYmAn: they have to be enabled, though
<RaYmAn> specing: yeah..I've seen few devices where enabled *and* sending data registered as 0 all the time. Same when not sending data. That is, as far as a multimeter is concerned
<netchip> OK, what are the steps to locate UART on my SGS3, for example? Let's say I have only a Bus Pirate
<specing> RaYmAn: multimeters have <10 Hz sample freq
<specing> don't rely on them
<RaYmAn> I know :) You were the one who mentioend multimeter ;)
<netchip> RaYmAn, you did
<netchip> anyway
<netchip> 1) I disassemble my device
<specing> RaYmAn: yeah, but if you don't have a scope...
<netchip> 2) I go look for possible UART locations
<netchip> 3) If I think I found them, I check chip's manual for voltage
<netchip> 4) I adjust my bus pirate for the voltage
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<netchip> 5) I try them.
<netchip> right?
<RaYmAn> specing: sure, my point was that you can't always rely on that, though it might help you narrow it down
<specing> skip 2
<netchip> Ah
<netchip> I just check them with volt meter
<netchip> :)
<netchip> shouldn't be hard
<specing> netchip: I found my tx on the line to the G-sensor
<hramrach> with a serial cable I would try to connect the gnd to something that looks like ground on the pcb and the rx pin to random pins on the board
<hramrach> if you connect to board tx and have the speed right you will see the boot messages
<hramrach> unless they went out of their way to turn that off
<netchip> speed rate is in manual right?
<hramrach> it's selectable
<specing> use this to spam serial ports with a single character
<netchip> hramrach, yeah ofcourse but to test
<hramrach> and if you are searching for the pin it's not in the manual
<specing> (from android)
<netchip> ah
<netchip> so you see them?
<netchip> but if i have to adjust the rates
<netchip> it costs hours (fictive) to locate them
<hramrach> likely the rate is going to be one of the usual 115200 or 9600
<netchip> well
<netchip> i'll order BP
<specing> the link I gave does 9600 by default
<netchip> and test asap ;)
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<rm> mnemoc, hey
<rm> mnemoc, does stage-3.0 also contain the EDID patches?
<hramrach> you can look at the log
<mnemoc> rm: yes, both stage branches include the same changes
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<hramrach> I don't see them in the 3.0 branch but may be just me
<hramrach> oh, now I see them
<netchip> is this channel Allwinner only btw?
<hramrach> no
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* penguin42 tries to figure out where the rk3066 dev guys are
<specing> penguin42: in china
<penguin42> specing: Well there seem to be various half communities for it - but they're all only part setup so far
<penguin42> specing: http://code.google.com/p/rk3066-linux/ is kind of promising but most of the links are dead, and the forum doesn't work - but they have working binaries, there is a forum on armtvtech
<L84Supper> maybe devs with docs that work for an OEM?
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<penguin42> maybe, I've got the sorurce tree out of the git
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<RaYmAn> there are a bunch of cm people working on it, but that's mostly android based of course. (Though, iirc custom kernels and such as well)
<Pulser> penguin42, that link is a binary kernel AFAIK
<Pulser> at least the date seems to match the same as what's available on devices (I may be wrong btw)
<RaYmAn> Pulser: heh, you're here too
<RaYmAn> =P
<Pulser> as I just looked at it today
<Pulser> ohai RaYmAn
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<jelly-home> amlogic 8726-M* looked promising as well
<L84Supper> http://service.i-onik.de/ rk3066 source code
<techn_> mnemoc: when you are going to merge stage?
<L84Supper> looks like somebody posted the SDK
<netchip> is android kernel compatible with linux?
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<hramrach> no
<netchip> bubububut I can chroot Ubuntu on my Android
<hramrach> if it were there would be no difference between Android and GNU/Linux
<netchip> lol
<RaYmAn> hramrach: it's not identical, but of course it's compatible.
<hramrach> you can chroot to it but the display is handled by Android
<netchip> ofcourse
<RaYmAn> there can be driver issues depending on vendor.
<netchip> I only ask about the kernel
<netchip> Could I run Ubuntu native on an Android kernel?
<L84Supper> I don't see kernel source anywhere on the forums
<RaYmAn> sure.
<hramrach> when there is no android the dislpay is not handled
<netchip> afaik it is
<RaYmAn> hramrach: it depends on device/drivers/etc
<netchip> I can bypass surfaceflinger
<mnemoc> techn_: i've not been able to test it myself... but if people is happy with it's current state, I can merge it
<hramrach> if you booted Ubuntu bare ob Android kernel
<netchip> That's the WM of Android
<RaYmAn> A lot of devices have functional framebuffer & framebuffer console
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<techn_> mnemoc: yep.. since It has been branched quite a lot from main branch
<netchip> hum
<mnemoc> techn_: basically disp fixes, edid and usb host unification
<netchip> is this theory right?
<netchip> Camera wrapper calls propriteary blob
<hramrach> of course, if you do not need display then GNU/Linux and Android is pretty much identical
<RaYmAn> hramrach: most android devices use basic framebuffer for primary graphics stuff.
<netchip> blob calls function
<netchip> function crashes mediaserver
<RaYmAn> then gralloc and hwcomposer etc to get hw features
<netchip> EGL and gralloc is kinda one
<netchip> no gralloc is no gfx
<L84Supper> netchip: Chrome is Gentoo just FYI
<netchip> L84Supper, ?
<netchip> Google Chrome OS = gentoo?
<mnemoc> techn_: I'm a bit puzzled regarding the last HACK: patch on 3.4. hansg's mangled patch or ssvb's revert
<L84Supper> netchip: Google has been gobbling up any free Gentoo devs
<hramrach> yes, the 3.4 patch does not apply for me
<mnemoc> techn_: but after that I'll merge it before the new set from hansg
<L84Supper> netchip: it's a fork based on Gentoo
<netchip> L84Supper, Isn't gentoo just one bunch of source packages, connected with emerge?
<hramrach> but it's supposed to fix the fbcon corryption
<netchip> that's how I see gentoo
<L84Supper> yeah, just a bunch of 1's and 0's
<penguin42> L84Supper: Thanks for th elinks
<netchip> who can help solve my camera problem on Android?
<netchip> (dev related)
<netchip> OK, here it comes
<mnemoc> hramrach: you mean the HACK: patch updated for 3.4 doesn't apply on stage-3.4?
<RaYmAn> chromeos use gentoo for building all the packages and stuff, but the final image is free of most gentoo-isms =P No emerge/portage etc
<netchip> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1504101/ 1) Camera wrapper calls proprietary blob 2) Blob calls function in blob 3) Function makes media server crash
<L84Supper> https://github.com/omegamoon/rockchip-rk30xx-mk808 this might be the kernel source
<hramrach> mnemoc: yes, that does not apply for me. either it was mangled on send or by google
<netchip> is my theory right?
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<penguin42> L84Supper: Yeh it's AndrewDB's image I've booted; and I think got the tree source from the the picuntu link - but it's all a bit weirdly linked from each other
<penguin42> ooh, that sounds promising
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<Pulser> L84Supper, these sources are quite flawed unfortunately
<Pulser> there are a number of files missing source, where they have pre-compiled .o files made from .uu uencoded files
<Pulser> it's not GPL compliant, and it stops you easily editign the source for them
<L84Supper> Pulser: just getting them posted, since they don't seem to be organized at any one site
<penguin42> L84Supper: Ah that's nice, the thing I was missing was the how to make an image
<Pulser> yeah sure
<Pulser> penguin42, what board are you working with?
<penguin42> Pulser: An mk809 - just got it over the weekend
<Pulser> right, rk3066 based?
<Pulser> I have been working with codeworkx on CM for the mk802iii which is quite similar as I understand it
<Pulser> but we are a bit sick of the amount of "cheap botches"
<Pulser> like putting the usb slave on the same line as the wifi chip
<penguin42> Pulser: Yeh rk3066
<Pulser> so you cannot be connected to PC while using wifi
<Pulser> etc
<Pulser> and when using adb to debug it, that's not much use
<penguin42> Pulser: Yeuch that's nasty
<Pulser> blobbed up bits of source are annoying
<Pulser> their MTD...
<Pulser> UGH
<Pulser> UGH!
<Pulser> their MTD is the worst
<Pulser> closed source
<Pulser> and broken
<penguin42> Pulser: Yeh, I won't have another chance to fight it until next weekend, but I should have a spare powered usb hub and uSD by then which will make life easier
<penguin42> MTD?
<Pulser> penguin42, the onboard storage
<penguin42> Pulser: HTF can you make a flash interface so wacky?
<Pulser> ie. the nand
<Pulser> penguin42, oh trust me... you can :P
<Pulser> rockchip managed lol
<hramrach> ItWorks(tm)
<penguin42> Pulser: Yeh I noticed the /proc entry for the flash stuff - looks like they did their own wear stuff?
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<Pulser> incomplete sources
<hramrach> on a demo session you can read the whole content of the nanad ;-)
<Pulser> those are not buildable unfortunately
<Pulser> they are missing a load of stuff
<penguin42> Pulser: So any idea what AndrewDB's kernels are?
<RaYmAn> Pulser: the rk29 driver doesn't work?
<Pulser> RaYmAn, codeworkx said it won't
<Pulser> it is missing a method or two
<hansg> mnemoc, what do you mean with "hansg's mangled patch" ? I just "ported" the original patch to 3.4
<Pulser> can't recall which
<Pulser> and it's also .uu'd
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<Pulser> penguin42, AndrewDB's kernels came IIRC from a rikomagic guy in the UK
<hramrach> hansg: what I Get from the ML does not apply
<mnemoc> hansg: yes, failed to find a better term. .... adjusted patch :)
<mnemoc> hansg: I just pushed it to stage/sunxi-3.4
<hramrach> then I get it there I guess
<penguin42> Pulser: AH, so they aren't built from the git hub he has?
<hansg> mnemoc, btw about the serial patches, am I the only one who has actually seen the A10 running Linux hang filling the (hdmi attached) console with those: ">>> no handle, treat it handle over" messages ?
<Pulser> penguin42, I think they are tbh
<Pulser> but I am not sure how he has mtd working (does he???)
<Pulser> doesn't his stuff boot off SD?
<mnemoc> hansg: no, that's known
<hansg> I've seen this both on my (just arrived) mini-x, as well as occasionally on the gooseberry
<hansg> mnemoc, ok, well it is fixed now :)
<mnemoc> hansg: it's part of the incomplete forward port of the hackery in 3.0
<penguin42> Pulser: Ah, it's possible - I've not had a full boot yet (due to missing a spare uSD and USB hub due to a screwed up Amazon reseller....)
<mnemoc> hansg: give me a minute to show you allwinner's "fix" :)
<Pulser> damn
<Pulser> penguin42, I don't think there are mtd drivers that work
<Pulser> if there are, I'd love to know
<Pulser> but wifi is annoying us, as is the sheer amount of messups
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<Pulser> stupidity etc
<hramrach> for me the stage 3.4 kernel works. At least I can boot it, get HDMI output, etc
<penguin42> Pulser: OK, I'm not too fussed with that tbh for starters; If I can build an image I can write to the recovery I'll be reasonably happy for starters
<Pulser> right
<Pulser> we worked out how to do that
<Pulser> though this is "android style" images
<Pulser> I dunno if that helps you
<penguin42> Pulser: Yeh I'm happy with that for starters
<Pulser> ie. kernel + ramdisk in the package
<Pulser> sure
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<Pulser> apparently that was harder to do, but we figured it out
<Pulser> I am sure others will have to, but I don't know if it's documented
<hansg> mnemoc, ah cool, well then my guess that they are using a designware uart ip block was correct, I did not even know that, but I just looked through other 8250 drivers in the kernel to find something similar and got lucky :)
<penguin42> Pulser: Well when I get a chance to have a fight next weekend, I'll see how far I get
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<Pulser> ok :)
<mnemoc> hansg: :)
<penguin42> Pulser: The most annoying thing with the shipping image is that there is no apparent way to cause it to do adb connection at boot, so I have to fetz with a mouse/keyboard to set the little tick to turn adb on so I can reboot to recovery
<Pulser> indeed
<Pulser> well. we fixed that IIRC
<hansg> Looks like I accidentally fixed that one then :) Just a quick copy and paste of 8250_dw.c really
<Pulser> we modified boot.img to change usbmode to 2
<Pulser> that will make it a slave
<Pulser> but in the process, that stops wifi working
<Pulser> :P
<Pulser> RE adb you might need to sort out drivers and stuff
<penguin42> Pulser: Fortunately I'm not too fussed about wifi either :-)
<Pulser> hehe
<Pulser> :)
<Pulser> meh it just annoys me how stupidly it's designed
<Pulser> that they put the wifi on the same bus
<penguin42> Pulser: I just want connectivity back to my host and something I can load a kernel and user stuff onto; so as far as hardware goes some boot space and a USB connection should be enough :-)
<Pulser> sure
<penguin42> oh and the HDMI is nice for when it doesn't work, I guess....
<Pulser> yeah just get yourself a boot.img, and set the usb mode into 2
<Pulser> also... our board has UART on it :)
<Pulser> dunno if yours will
<Pulser> that can be handy, but the terminals are fragile iirc
<penguin42> I guess it probably does, haven't broken the case yet
<Pulser> oh
<Pulser> mk802iii opens so easily
<Pulser> and the manual even tells you to do it if you brick it :P
<techn_> hansg: did you try 1080i @ 50hz and 60hz with those ppl codes?
<penguin42> Pulser: This is an 809
<techn_> Could not find a matching pll-freq for 72658000 pclk, and 74183000 pclk
<penguin42> Pulser: It didn't come with what you could call a manual :-)
<hansg> techn_, no I did not try those
<Pulser> well when I say a "manual"
<hansg> techn_, through edid, or hardcoded to those resolutions?
<Pulser> I mean some poorly translated .doc online
<Pulser> that has a shaky photo
<penguin42> Pulser: Ah
<techn_> hansg: edid.. allwinner seems to be using hardcoded ones
<Pulser> short pins 6 and 7 of the NAND
<Pulser> it cannot see the NAND
<Pulser> so goes to a mask download mod
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<Pulser> e
<Pulser> throw it a bootloader and firmware, and it flashes up
<penguin42> Pulser: That's kind of reassuring
<netchip> ohai Pulser
<techn_> hansg: 74250000 for both
<Pulser> well
<Pulser> that's our device
<Pulser> I strongly suggest you find out if that's possible on yours
<mnemoc> hansg: would you like to apply similar fixes in sunxi-serial for 3.0? :) for the sake of consistency
<hansg> techn_, right, I made sure my pll code could (should, not all tested) handle all the hardcoded modes. As for EDID, well if the tv/monitor gives us modes the pll cannot do, we sort of loose
<penguin42> Pulser: Yeh, I'll *try* not to fuck it up that badly
<Pulser> penguin42, looks possible
<Pulser> btw, trust me, you WILL need it
<Pulser> if you flash a duff boot.img ONCE
<Pulser> you'll need to use tihs
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<hansg> mnemoc, I'm fine with someone cherry-picking them into 3.0. TBH the last time I tried to build 3.0 it would not even build with my .config (which is derived from the standard F-18 kernel .config, so it has a lot of stuff enabled)
<penguin42> Pulser: Rather broken site - falling over quite badly
<Pulser> penguin42, oh right
<Pulser> well it looks like it can be recovered
<Pulser> I just googled MK809 recovery :P
<hansg> mnemoc, I guess I can run some tests using a defconfig
<Pulser> penguin42, direct link for MK809 tools and instructions: http://www.mk809.com/cs102/UploadFiles/mk809%20recovery%20tool%20and%20instruction.zip
<netchip> Pulser, Please check your PM :)
<penguin42> Pulser: 502 bad gateway
<Pulser> netchip, no, because i know what you will be asking
<Pulser> penguin42, hmmm
<netchip> Pulser, No opportunity? :(
<Pulser> right yeah that site is derped too
<Pulser> netchip, our decision is final
<penguin42> Pulser: Anyway, no biggy - I'll figure it out, as I say only turned up yesterday
<hansg> techn_, btw, are those the preferred modes for that TV ? My main focus is on getting the preferred / native modes working. You really don't want to be running at a non-native resolution with LCD-s
<Pulser> penguin42, yeah it's not too bad
<Pulser> you'll be sick of the device in about a week btw
<techn_> hansg: native
<Pulser> from trying to undo their dirty hacks
<netchip> Pulser, like in forever?
<penguin42> Pulser: Haha probably; what I really want to do is do some user space triaging, but I also want to play about with gadget driver stuff - so we'll see
<Pulser> penguin42, yeah... if you are happy to play in userspace you might not hate it too much
<Pulser> gadget and drivers... good luck :P
<hansg> techn_, and also the preferred (first dtd) mode? I would expect the preferred mode to be 1080p (and hope that one does work ...)
<penguin42> Pulser: yeh :-)
<techn_> preferred is 1080p
<hansg> and does that work ?
<techn_> and it works
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<hansg> Good, then IMHO the 1080i modes not working is not a big loss. Since picking a non preferred mode should involve user intervention anyways they can pick the hardcoded 1080i modes (assuming those are working)
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<techn_> some videoplayer software could switch to 1080i if video is same format
<penguin42> Pulser: Anyway, thanks for the hints - I'll be back next weekend and have more of a poke
<Pulser> alright :)
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<hansg> techn_, what we can do is, when the device had a DTD with a 1080i mode with an unsupported clock, advertise the matching hardcoded 1080i modes in the available mode list instead
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<mnemoc> hansg: in sunxi-boards mk802-ii was renamed to mk802ii (to match u-boot's board) a couple of weeks ago
<mnemoc> hansg: also cleaned up a bit
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<techn_> hansg: did you test usb_host_init_state=0 with latest stage
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<hansg> techn_, yes, still the same issue, the device only shows up in lsusb after modprobing the driver manually
<hansg> mnemoc, let me rebase my patches on top of that and then I'll resend the entire set
<techn_> strange.. for me it didn't show up on lsusb
<hansg> techn_, not even after a modprobe of the driver ?
<techn_> no
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<hansg> techn_, well I've been sitting on my fex file patches for a while (testing + cleanup before posting them), so maybe what you had was a regression from the unification fixed by the recent patches to restore the enable/disable functionality. I believe my testing was all done prior to the unification, and then again post unification + fixes
<hansg> techn_, but even after the latest fixes I still need a manual modprobe, note that listing the module in /etc/modules also counts as a manual modprobe
<hansg> With my changes the driver will simply autoload without being mentioned anywhere (other then being present in /lib/modules of course)
<techn_> oh.. how that autoloading works?
<hansg> mnemoc, techn_, hmm looks like the usb_host_init_state change already made it in mk802ii.fex as part of the cleanups
<hansg> techn_, the same as all usb drivers are loaded. USB subsys detects the device (so it shows up in dmesg, lsusb) then sends a udev event for the new device which contains the device alias like this: usb:v2001p3307.... which udev then passes to modprobe
<hansg> And modules declare device aliases they are compatible with, ie:
<hansg> modinfo /lib/modules/3.6.9-4.fc18.x86_64/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/rtlwifi/rtl8192cu/rtl8192cu.ko
<hansg> <snip>
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<hansg> alias: usb:v2001p3307d*dc*dsc*dp*ic*isc*ip*in*
<hansg> <snip>
<techn_> hansg: thanks.. thats cool
<ssvb> mnemoc, hansg, techn_: are the framebuffer related modules (disp, hdmi, ..) expected to be safely loadable/unloadable at runtime?
<hansg> USB is a true plug and play bus, all devices must answer to certain commands on their control endpoint, which allows querying things like the product and vendor id.
<techn_> ssvb: atleast not one-by-one
<hansg> ssvb, I've not audited them for this, but looking at the overall code quality of all sunxi code, I would say no
<hansg> ssvb, what is possible with more recent sunxi kernels is to actually build them into the kernel which is preferable IMHO
<techn_> but I think libv did that somehow.. since he send patch to allow it
<mnemoc> a couple of drivers have been fixed to survive unloading/reloading, but in general they just crash
<techn_> mnemoc: could you take those mine uart patches when you take hansg's
<techn_> there was also patch to allow load/unload :/
<libv> ssvb: i am happily loading/unloading them on both hdmi and lcd-ed devices
<ssvb> mnemoc: if anything, https://github.com/linux-sunxi/linux-sunxi/commit/d8f5c14a9ebfd4dd319a712eb49ad0532750971a is going to contribute to the unloading breakage because "malloc_screen_base" is not an array
<mnemoc> techn_: somehow I was expecting a v2 of yours :p
<techn_> mnemoc: That one patch was decided to drop.. but I think other ones was good? :/
<mnemoc> techn_: ok. please remind me tomorrow :)
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<ssvb> mnemoc: yeah, I wanted to provide v2 patch, but you were too fast to apply it to the stage branches :) so I'm a bit confused about what to do
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<mnemoc> ssvb: the stage branches are rebased. if you want so, I can just remove them
<ssvb> mnemoc: also I want to test modules unloading, and somehow this does not seem to work for me with or without this patch
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<mnemoc> ssvb: only the HACK: patch is in question of you have doubts about others too?
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<mnemoc> s/of/or/
<ibot> mnemoc meant: ssvb: only the HACK: patch is in question or you have doubts about others too?
<ssvb> mnemoc: yes, only the HACK patch
<ssvb> mnemoc: ok, just give me a few hours to test it a bit better
<hansg> ssvb, btw, I love the hack patch, I had already noticed the issue and it was bugging the hell out of me, so I'm very happy to see it fixed
<ssvb> mnemoc: the reverted upstream patch may be preferable, because 1) it was in the mainline kernel at one time 2) it shows the warning when questionable ioremap are attempted
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<hansg> Not sure if having a WARN_ON which we know will trigger in there is a good idea, that means that every time someone boots a sunxi kernel he will see a backtrace
<hansg> This is bound to cause a lot of bug reports
<ssvb> hansg: yes, that's a good point
<techn_> but partly it's bug :)
<hansg> Interesting, I just got an EDID checksum error, looks like we need to do a retry on those, and we should not do a WARN_ON when we do get one as it is not a kernel bug, so a backtrace is not helpful
<hansg> Of course I will likely be able to never reproduce this, so guess how well the retry code path will get tested ...
<techn_> hmm.. dynamic edid seems to be finished.. only thing is that memory allocation part :/
<hansg> BTW am I the only one seeing list corruption warning related to process_worker / process_one with 3.4 ?
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<mnemoc> ssvb: I'll skip your HACK patch when merging the stage branches tomorrow. take your time ;-)
<ssvb> mnemoc: ok, thanks
<ssvb> when is the next merge going to happen in the case if we miss this one?
<mnemoc> ssvb: there is no strict schedule
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<mnemoc> there isn't much people sending patches, so stage branches get spawned as soon as a not-trivial patch arrives, and they get merged soon after people starts asking here when will it be merged :p
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<mnemoc> s/people/devs/
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<techn_> mnemoc: I'll send dynamic mode setting patches.. take them to new stage after review.. ok? :)
<mnemoc> techn_: ok
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<ssvb> techn_: this sounds really cool, bring it on :)
<techn_> ssvb: now what we miss feature wise is dual screen support, dual fb support and blanking :/
<techn_> but I think I'll focus next on cleanup
<techn_> and thanks :)
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<techn_> ups.. found malloc bug.. resending new patch tomorrow :p
<hramrach> how do you make a gpio led connect with a led trigger?
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