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<Alex1269>
I'm working on gpio driver for sunxi3,0/3.4. I think the "right way" to implement it is to use gpiolib. But gpiolib doesn't support attributes for pin drive_level/pull/mode_select. Is there any reasons against extending gpiolib ?
<mnemoc>
mripard: he is implementing it for the "legacy" script.bin based 3.0/3.4 tree
<oliv3r>
anybody has started to work on pinctrl? I was thinking of playing alittle with it today
<mnemoc>
pinctrl with script.bin is a nightmare
<mnemoc>
and iirc not available for 3.0
<oliv3r>
i ment for 3.4-3.8
<mnemoc>
oliv3r: in 3.8+ it's already done properly
<mnemoc>
the only point of re-implementing gpio properly would be to bring that to 3.0/3.4 people, not further
<mnemoc>
properly in 3.0 terms obvisly.
<oliv3r>
mnemoc: i ment for sunxi
<oliv3r>
i don't think i saw anything for the A10 and pinctrl
<mnemoc>
oliv3r: it will go into 3.9
<mnemoc>
oliv3r: mripard already submited that
<oliv3r>
ah, i didn't see any of that on the 'mainlining effort' wiki
<oliv3r>
nor on our git tree i don't think :(
<mnemoc>
that stuff lives in arm-soc's tree
<oliv3r>
ah kewl
<oliv3r>
well it would have helped if the wiki reflected that mripard :p
<mnemoc>
+1
<oliv3r>
i was getting all excited about looking into that, as it seemed reasonable easy :(
<mnemoc>
in the legacy *cough* tree we only need to turn the current gpio-ugly driver into one using the proper (by 3.0 standards) class
<mnemoc>
to give decent gpio support to people needing it today
<oliv3r>
why, WHY won't php output any error? Just Why. E_ALL and error reporting is obviously enabled :S
<mnemoc>
o_O
<oliv3r>
google is FULL of people not having that on :S so all that doesn't help
<oliv3r>
i assumed that E_ALL would always output all errors. phpinfo(); even lists E_ALL and display_errors as on; yet no error output, no output at all
<mnemoc>
anything I need to change in the sunxi wiki?
<mnemoc>
Alex1269: even if the gpiolib-based sunxi-gpio only supports reading and writing values it will be a great win for people runing sunxi devices with pins today
<mnemoc>
Alex1269: for more complex stuff (as mripard said) it's pinctrl, but that effort isn't that much needed because setup is assumed to be done on the script.bin file
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<oliv3r>
mnemoc: na, this is my own test box :(
<mnemoc>
so you do php intentionaly??? very sorry for you
<oliv3r>
lol I have a mysql and postgres test database requirement, and wanted to install myphp and mypg-admin; pg admin works fine , myphpadmin doesn't do anything and since i don't get error output, i can't figure out why or what could be missing
<oliv3r>
hmm, maybe php was outputting errors, but phpmyadmin wasn't producing output! *facepalm*
<mripard>
mnemoc: I'll try to update the wiki today
<mnemoc>
mripard: thanks!
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<slapin>
oliv3r: php allows apps to disable output, and many apps can't work with it enabled (as they use wicked output caching schemes).
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<oliv3r>
slapin: aye, but it's not obvious and not documented why phpmyadmin does it :S so i have to experiment as to find out why it's not dumping _any_ info _anywhere_
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<Alex1269_>
Ok, I'll write simple read/write/irq gpio driver (for gpiolib) using [gpio_para] fex section and then i'm going to add drive_level/pull attributes to gpiolib for myself
<mnemoc>
Alex1269: send it too, but on a separated commit please
<Alex1269_>
Ok. As for 3.8+... Is is usable ?
<mnemoc>
for 3.8+ it won't be accepted, they use pinmux for that
<Alex1269_>
No... i'm asking about whole 3.8 version. Is it usable for production?
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<Alex1269_>
For example for automation server: gpio controlable hardware, i2c sensors, several rs232, nginx+php+mysql (on sata ssd), usb 3g modem for SMSing, one camera
<mripard>
Alex1269: support is quite minimal for now
<mripard>
we only have interrupts, timers and UARTs support in 3.8
<mripard>
in 3.9, we will (I hope) have pinctrl and gpios, and maybe clocks
<mripard>
it would be great to begin to have storage devices support in 3.10
<mripard>
SPI and I2C as well, so that we can begin to have something actually useful
<Alex1269_>
So 3.0 stable, 3.4 devel, 3.8 - experimental... Right?
<mripard>
yes
<mnemoc>
Alex1269: but "3.8" isn't a fixed target, it just happened to be the next once the mainlining began. currently the goal is 3.9 and so on
<ssvb>
what would be the next long term support kernel after 3.4?
<mnemoc>
ssvb: mainline
<mnemoc>
ah, you mean theirs... 3.8 I guess
<mnemoc>
odd numbers have never get much favour
<ssvb>
actually I like the idea of always having something that just works :) after tracking the status of omap support in the mainline, I get an impression that something is always broken there
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<mnemoc>
:)
<slapin>
ssvb: for my boards omap generally works, as they improved their testing under rmk's pressure
<mnemoc>
mripard: will try to merge i2c and spi drivers from the source drops and then clean them this weekend, for 3.0/3.4 and then to be adapted for dt
<mripard>
mnemoc: ok, great
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<slapin>
hi, all!
<slapin>
do anybody knows the link to bypass mentor's registration page to download toolchain?
<slapin>
or something?
<mnemoc>
googling for the file name tends to help
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<WarheadsSE>
what is "mentor's toolchain"
<mnemoc>
a toolchain that requires registration to download I assumed
<mnemoc>
new owner of CodeSourcery
<rz2k>
mentorgraphics bought codesourcery
<rz2k>
year or so ago
<rz2k>
you need to enter email to get the link
<mnemoc>
and that link has a token or it's something we can link?
<rz2k>
token :(
<mnemoc>
so, someone grabs it, and then we upload to dl.linux-sunxi.org? :) still gpl isn;t it?
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<WarheadsSE>
mmm.... I have my own toolchain
<rz2k>
no idea if it is GPL or whatever, I use linaro's toolchain and selfcompiled by ct-ng
<WarheadsSE>
basically the same
<WarheadsSE>
although with glibc 2.17/gcc 4.7.2 there is a glitch at the moment with ld.so.cache not being properly used
<WarheadsSE>
linaro's patch apparently borks on proper indexing w/ flags of the hardfloat eabi in use, cause failure. Simply patch for the time being is to export LD_LIBRARY_PATH
* mnemoc
uses linaro's. it's only an apt-get install away for me
<WarheadsSE>
Ah, if only I used a debian based system ... :P
<mnemoc>
:)
<WarheadsSE>
Psst, theirs is broken too
<slapin>
mnemoc: no ppa support for debian :(
<WarheadsSE>
shouldn't stop you from manually grabbing it, no?
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<slapin>
WarheadsSE: I'm too lazy for that things... and I think it is binary-incompatible with debian.
<WarheadsSE>
orly
<mnemoc>
having different lxc-based build servers is easier :)
* specing
wasn't able to get LXC to run
<slapin>
mnemoc: work build servers do fine, but I want to compile various things on localhost, and Denx people say my toolchain, which is based on OE, which is based on Linaro, is b0rked.
<specing>
mnemoc: could package Gentoo's toolchain
* WarheadsSE
has complete packages chain set.
<slapin>
mnemoc: I tried to install eldk, but it is non-relocatable and wants to go in /opt which is no-no at my side.
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<WarheadsSE>
you just need the v7? hardfloat or not?
<specing>
armv7a-hardfloat-linux-gnueabi- ?
<slapin>
CodeSourcery is relocatable, but I don't have version for 64-bit host, and it is dated.
<WarheadsSE>
definitely odd that it is coming up that large.
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<WarheadsSE>
almost wonder if it is attempting to leave some debug information in there.
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<Turl>
you can try the codesourcery toolchains
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<WarheadsSE>
I think that is his issue
<WarheadsSE>
not wanting to register with mentor
<mnemoc>
if someone already did, we can push it to dl.linux-sunxi.org and link there
<mnemoc>
I'm only consuming 200G of the 10TB/M
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<nemik>
hi, which branch of linux-sunxi should i use to compile a kernel module (for bluetooth) to run on the 'stock' Android image?
<mnemoc>
the default, sunxi-3.0
<mnemoc>
sun4i_crane_defconfig for A10 or a13_nuclear_defconfig for A13
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<nemik>
mnemoc: ok cool, thank you. and those modules will then work even on the 3.0.8 lichee kernel inside the stock ones?
<slapin>
sourcery.mentor.com/public/gnu_toolchain/ is open, but not adverticed...
<mnemoc>
no
<mnemoc>
slapin: wiki wiki :)
<mnemoc>
nemik: i was assuming you were going to replace the whole kernel
<nemik>
mnemoc: no, i'd like to keep it all the same and just insmod the bluetooth stuff on startup so it could work with a bluetooth USB module for serial
<mnemoc>
nemik: there is a lichee something branch, but isn't really maintained. not sure if it compiles at all
<nemik>
ah ok, yea that's probably the one i'd need then. as cheap as these little units are they're a giant pain to work with
<hno>
nemik, further, to acutally work you need the kernel .config and any other relevant modifications your device vendor have done. 3.0.8 != 3.0.8.
<slapin>
mnemoc: OMG, I've got a headache, no more such things :(
<mnemoc>
slapin: well... that's not a url
<mnemoc>
slapin: ftp:// or http:// missing
<nemik>
hno: it's too much to futz around with, especially for something i'd like to distribute. probably better than to just buy ug007's or whatever with bluetooth built in