<Turl>
and make sure you typed CROSS_COMPILE=... correctly, I typoed it once and took me a while to notice the mistake
<Jonathan_Eyre1>
... You mean the part where it says that I should "One option is to get a linaro released toolchain. Ignore most of the files there. Take the gcc-linaro-arm-linux-gnueabihf-*_linux.tar.bz2 file and untar it."
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<Jonathan_Eyre1>
I did that, and the folder did not contain anyhting that was Something,something,something_cc1
<Jonathan_Eyre1>
I see _gcc and g++...
<Jonathan_Eyre1>
hmm, could it be that I moved the contents of the tar to a custon bin folder, instead of referencing it with the * in the file? maybe...
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<Jonathan_Eyre1>
arm-linux-gnueabihf-gcc: error trying to exec 'cc1': execvp: No such file or directory
<Jonathan_Eyre1>
It is very obviously seeing the arm-linux-gnueabihf-gcc executable, because that is the guy complaining that there is no cc1.
<Jonathan_Eyre1>
I think I win something.
<Jonathan_Eyre1>
I see a cc1 in /usr/lib/gcc/i686-linux-gnu/4.6/ After adding that folder the the environment path, I get the following:
<Jonathan_Eyre1>
cc1: error: bad value (armv5) for -march= switch
<Jonathan_Eyre1>
cc1: error: unrecognized command line option ‘-mthumb’
<Jonathan_Eyre1>
And others, but it's painful to paste it all in.
<Jonathan_Eyre1>
Is there a toolchain that has a correct version of cc1?
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<Jonathan_Eyre>
cc1: error: bad value (cortex-a9) for -mtune= switch
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<Jonathan_Eyre>
Turl: It looks like the linaro toolchain is incomplete. I ended up using apt-get to install arm-linux-gnueabi.
<Jonathan_Eyre>
It does have a version of cc1 that has the correct parameters for arm compiling.
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<aholler_>
Jonathan_Eyre: you must have another problem, the tarball from linaro contains a cc1
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<Xlab>
Hi all. I have a question about LiveSuit image repacking. I need to pack (boot.img, system.img, userdata.img), but there's only BOOT_00000000000 and SYSTEM_000000000.fex are being unpacked from the original image (for boot.img and system.img accordingly). How do I handle userdata.img in that case? Any tip will be appreciated :)
<Xlab>
DISKFS_000000000 seems to be a raw string
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<torindel>
Xlab: last partition is always empty, and takes all remaining space
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<RaYmAn>
yay, my gk802 is finally out of customs thingy..Should be able to pick it up around...wednesday next week or something, lol
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<Xlab>
>Xlab: last partition is always empty, and takes all remaining space
<Xlab>
So that is
<Xlab>
[download5]
<Xlab>
part_name = UDISK
<Xlab>
pkt_name = DISKFS_000000000
<Xlab>
encrypt = 0
<Xlab>
?
<Xlab>
I'm not too much familiar with that part of the A10 hacking :/
<Xlab>
What is the main strategy to write to that partition, consider using imgrepacker.exe ?
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<rz2k>
Xlab:
<rz2k>
no one knows
<rz2k>
all that area is written by atleast 3 different companies
<rz2k>
and I honestly dont know how all that even works together
<Xlab>
Lol. Well, I'll play with numbers and .cfg's.
<Xlab>
As for now I'm using repacker + .zip for CWM to copy all data separately O_o
<slapin>
rm: interesting, and what is difference with stock android?
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<rm>
what do you mean
<rm>
I run Debian on both, not Android
<slapin>
rm: is stock performance governor be ok?
<rm>
I only ran Android for like 30 minutes, I remember it getting hot, that's all :)
<rm>
slapin, the performance governor will set the frequency to the max, and leave it there
<rm>
you need the "ondemand" one
<slapin>
rm: do you disable android features in kernel?
<rm>
yes
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<rm>
are those "features" in the first place? that's debatable :D
<rm>
more like various crutches and limitations
<RaYmAn>
considering a good deal fo them has been assimilated into mainline it's certainly features
<rm>
("paranoid networking" comes to mind)
<RaYmAn>
but I know, you're just having fun trolling :P
<slapin>
rm: have you tried playing video with Debian?
<rm>
RaYmAn, last time I heard, e.g. "wakelocks" did not rate too highly with the "real" kernel developers either
<rm>
slapin, no
<slapin>
rm: I've gone crazy trying to distinguish what's is going on in one of Ubuntu images for mk802, when network was availabe magically only for root...
<rm>
like I said I am not using the built in graphics
<slapin>
rm: what are you using the devices for?
<rm>
one mk802 is a server/router, and the other uses an USB DisplayLink video device
<rm>
should try playing video over that... but since it uses driver only a bit more advanced than fbdev, and works over USB, don't have too much hope
<slapin>
rm: what is this DisplayLink thing for? why not internal graphics?
<RaYmAn>
rm: that's more issues with the implementation chosen rather than the idea itself
<RaYmAn>
afaik
<slapin>
I've played video once over USB video card, somewhat success, somewhat... it looks like video, though...
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<rm>
slapin, 1) until recently it couldn't do 1680x1050 over HDMI-to-DVI, that supposedly should work now, but I didn't try
<rm>
2) no DPMS support -- that's a showstopper
<slapin>
rm: DPMS will work if you set wicked frequency values IIRC
<br->
rm, is this displaylink or builtin you're referring to?
<slapin>
rm: it is pure software issue anyway.
<rm>
br-, built in
<slapin>
yes, just disable both frequencies and it will go to dpms off, this can be done in software and nothing prevents you from that
<rm>
this needs to be done in the driver
<rm>
the userspace software just pulls its ropes
<rm>
or tries to
<rm>
"xset dpms force off" just blanks the screen currently
<rm>
with the monitor backlight still on
<slapin>
rm: so the driver needs fixing
<rm>
that's awesome insight right there :p
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<slapin>
rm: I think it is quite trivial to do
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<slapin>
damn, my hdmi tv doesn't support dpms
<slapin>
but it shows funny screensaver :) never thought it have it
<slapin>
lots of flying samsungs
<slapin>
icocheting from screen borders
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<hramrach>
is the axp20 driver important when not using battery?
<hramrach>
or can I disable it?
<WarheadsSE>
on which device
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<ZaEarl>
hramrach, even on ac power, you want the lower power usage to keep the heat down
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<mnemoc>
the axp20 is critical. the classic mk802 is an example of how hot an A10 can get without variable voltage
<hramrach>
I am running on cubieaboard
<fragmint>
I saw my first WM8650 netbook yesterday in the wild
<hramrach>
I don't really mind the driveer that much but it creates an evedev device which I want to rid of
<fragmint>
it was so cute
<mnemoc>
hramrach: A10's cpufreq relies in the AXP. so if you disable it you'll be running at fixed speed all time
<WarheadsSE>
fragmint: yeah, how shitty was it
<hramrach>
it would be equivalent to cpufreq performance governor then which is supposed to work too
<fragmint>
nowhere near as bad as I thought it would be
<fragmint>
actually quite usable
<hramrach>
256MB ram
<hramrach>
that's like rPI
<fragmint>
although I didn't realize how small a 7" netboo would be... you have to keep in mind its 1" bigger than a Note2
<hramrach>
the first netbooks by Asus were 7"
<hramrach>
then they made them bigger so they are usable
<fragmint>
if you've used one of the first generation tablets with a real pooey processor you know what to expect
<fragmint>
but the screen was better than some of the bottom of the barrell ones I've seen and it felt a lot more responsive due to not having a horrible touchscreen that barely worked
<hramrach>
seems minimal usable size for device with keyboard is 10" unless you have really small fingers
<fragmint>
I didn't realize they have an SD slot, normal USB port, Ethernet
<fragmint>
wireless in the darn thing was next to useless... very poor antenna
<hramrach>
and 800x480 is just too small for reading and too small to display normal dialogs
<fragmint>
would make a nice portable terminal
<fragmint>
same size/res as most ereaders so you could use it to read/hammer out a document
<hramrach>
I guess that normal dialogs requiring huge screens is a bug but go bug all the clickety sfotware authors to make their junk usable :s
<hramrach>
800x480 is maybe fine for documents you can re-wrap to fit the screen
<hramrach>
not always dealing with such
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<fragmint>
is it worth the $100 a lot of places want? no. but if you find one <$50 I wouldn't say its horrible for the price
<hramrach>
for terminal it's nice but somewhat expensive unless you expect to need a terminal a lot
<hramrach>
any idea about battery operating time?
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<hramrach>
that's one thing in which crappy ARM netbooks could beat crappy x86 netbooks
<hramrach>
it looks the same but the important part is the docking connector which is not shown
<buZz>
Turl: you can filter on 'buy now' auctions
<mnemoc>
someone should make a lapdock with civilized connectors and good screen
<hramrach>
yeah. my saying ;-)
<Turl>
mnemoc: wasn't that one of lkcl's projects?
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<hramrach>
where is that project?
<mnemoc>
Turl: nah, he just wanted to reuse one and plug an eoma68 card
<mnemoc>
just like everyone does with sticks, rpi, cubies, etc...
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<Turl>
mnemoc: :|
<Turl>
I wouldn't mind, say, a lapdock with two long cables and a box I can leave inside my laptop bag
<vinifm>
can i use PIO_REG_PULL(B, N, I) in user-space?
<mnemoc>
vinifm: using sunxi-tools' pio
<vinifm>
hm
<mnemoc>
even if it's a niche, as the hdmi stick market grows, a "lapdock" with full size female hdmi/usb and good screen doesn't need to be "dirty cheap" to be a good business
<Turl>
this gpio talk reminds me of something
<Turl>
mripard: ping
<hramrach>
isn't that called TV?
<mnemoc>
hramrach: TVs don't have battery, usb hub, keyboard, and are usually larger that 13"
<hramrach>
meh, there is lack of TVs smaller than 30"
<buZz>
Turl: i hate that exactly
<buZz>
lol
<buZz>
i HAVE that
<buZz>
:P
<mnemoc>
7" screens are absurdly overpriced
<mnemoc>
10-13" don't exist
<hramrach>
they are still screens
<hramrach>
yeah, 7" TVs
<hramrach>
but have no io
<hramrach>
so useless at any price
<mnemoc>
it should be pretty easy to make a good lapdock
<buZz>
even without a docking board, lapdock is a portable HDMI screen with its own battery
<mnemoc>
buZz: that shuts you down when you close the lid :<
<buZz>
hehe, easy to mod to not let that happen
<hramrach>
that's model specific
<buZz>
well mine at least, it needs GND on some pin on the HDMI connector to turn on
<hramrach>
let Chinese make some lapdock clones that actually work
<mnemoc>
chinese don't care about niche products
<hramrach>
are HDMI sticks mainstream?
<buZz>
yes
<hramrach>
I don't know anybody who usees them for anything but Linux development
<buZz>
i discovered my mom uses one :O
<hramrach>
;-)
<buZz>
rockchip though :(
<mnemoc>
.cn manufacturers don't even do netbooks anymore.... they do tablets + usb keyboards
<hramrach>
it's better than netbook in any possible way you can think of
<buZz>
i dont understand why the 'market' stopped making netbooks
<buZz>
in favor of ultrabooks
<buZz>
that ARENT SELLING
<buZz>
its insane
<hramrach>
because netbooks are dead
<buZz>
how so? i still know a lot of happy netbook users
<hramrach>
but how many people would buy one *new*?
<mnemoc>
the exynos chromebook shows the oposite
<hramrach>
it's different from the previous netbooks
<hramrach>
and it's made by google
<buZz>
hramrach: i think many people that have one now are disappointed that they cant buy a new one
<hramrach>
like 2/3 their projects fail and they don't care
<hramrach>
yes but the netbooks do not break all at once. no new customers. replacements are not that big business
<hramrach>
and there are some netbooks still. jsut not that much choice anymore
<mnemoc>
so, who's in .cn and can make a kickstarter/indiegogo for a good generic lapdock? :)
<hramrach>
suggest it as an 'add mobility to your HDMI stick' accessory
<hramrach>
maybe some of the stick makers jumps on it
<hramrach>
most likely not because they do not speak English
<mnemoc>
even dell announced an stick
<hramrach>
then it's mainstream for sure ;-)
<mnemoc>
hramrach: that's why we need a western living in .cn :)
<mnemoc>
but at this hour they are sleeping :p
<specing>
The chinese ever sleep?
<specing>
:O
<mnemoc>
the westerns do :p
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<hramrach>
also the ultrabooks do sell
<hramrach>
they are one flavour of notebook and with like 3-4 flavours to choose from you get some tradeoffs
<Turl>
mnemoc: cubiebook :P
<Turl>
something like a lapdock with a fruitstand on the back
<hramrach>
I am not sure Tom is up to another project at this point but does not hurt asking ;-)
<Turl>
there's other .cn people on #cubieboard
<Turl>
maybe one of them wants to pick it up :)
<Turl>
bbl
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<buZz>
NOT A FRUITSTAND
<buZz>
PLEASE, GOD, NOT A FRUITSTAND
<hramrach>
hehehehe
<buZz>
ah, it will not be succesfull \o/
<buZz>
really man, 33 dollar for 3 pieces of acrylic
<buZz>
that should NOT get funding
<hramrach>
that's the thing with acrylic
<hramrach>
the stuff is almost free
<buZz>
yeah indeed
<buZz>
i really oppose the fruitstand for this matter
<hramrach>
but geting it in the right shape is hard. expensive machinery required
<buZz>
lasercutters are so cheap in use
<buZz>
soooon our local fablab will have a lasercutter
<hramrach>
I did not try to buy one
<buZz>
then -> lasercut all the things!
<hramrach>
but given that not every lab has one I guess they don't just grow on trees
<buZz>
hrhr
<buZz>
i had an offer to buy one from .cn
<buZz>
just 600 usd incl shipping to .nl
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<hramrach>
that's not that cheap
<hramrach>
how many fruitstands would you ahve to make to pay for the cutter and make them reasonable price?
<buZz>
its cheaper than what they cost in the UK
<buZz>
over 1000 euros
<buZz>
lol no idea
<buZz>
was that the motivation of the fruitstand?
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<hramrach>
the motivation as I read is to purchase the cutter for making the stands
<buZz>
right
<buZz>
does kickstarter require pledges to be paid, even if funding is not reached?
<hramrach>
I don't think so
<hramrach>
it just returns the money
<buZz>
ah, too bad for him :D
<mnemoc>
where is hansg?? :<
<buZz>
somewhere in .nl ;) i think
<mnemoc>
:)
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<vinifm>
1 more thing, i run ./pio in A13 or PC?
<WarheadsSE>
so whos is responsible for this? //github.com/ssvb/xf86-video-sunxifb
<mnemoc>
WarheadsSE: ssvb
<WarheadsSE>
ssvb: indeed.
<mnemoc>
vinifm: A13, with -m as arg. to use /dev/mem
<WarheadsSE>
might be able to package that..
<mnemoc>
:)
<vinifm>
thanks, I was very confused, because fex2bin i run in PC... :)
<mnemoc>
pio can be run from the "PC" too, but using FEL dumps
<WarheadsSE>
mnemoc: what do you know of that xf86, is it essentially a replacement for the -mali's?
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<mnemoc>
WarheadsSE: yes. but it still doesn't accelerate anything. it "only" works as fb driver and interfaces with the mali blob
<WarheadsSE>
okay
<ssvb>
WarheadsSE: I would say it's a rather experimental release right now, but I would like people to test it themselves and report bugs if something is wrong
<WarheadsSE>
I need to make a package because I know the moment people see oooh updated A10 .. they will be all "BUT WHUCH VODEO"
<WarheadsSE>
(intentionally misspelled)
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<WarheadsSE>
ssvb: if you can ever get me a list of it's needs, I will try to package this up, mark it as testing :)
<mnemoc>
that will catch some attention :)
<Turl>
mnemoc: does it require that weird allwinner usb module on the pc?
<Turl>
(pio)
<mnemoc>
Turl: no. pio uses /dev/mem or a register dump
<mnemoc>
Turl: and fel uses libusb, no funky usb module
<Turl>
so I cannot toggle pins "live" from the pc with fel?
<mnemoc>
you do. but without a running OS
<mnemoc>
fel to dump the register, pio to "adjust" it, fel to write the reigster back
<mnemoc>
there is a gpio helper in sunxi-tools to easy to scripting of tests