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<oliv3r> Marry Happy New Year!
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<ganbold> what are the port and port_num in script_gpio_set_t struct? what they used for?
<ganbold> I guess port is bank number, port_num is port number, am I right?
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<L84Supper> the Samsung Exynos 5250 Chromebook is the #1 selling laptop on Amazon
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<mnemoc> ganbold: yes
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<ganbold> mnemoc: still something missing to make usb ehci work on freebsd
<ganbold> mnemoc: can't get even ehci version, I guess 3 USBs are different controllers
<mnemoc> yes, usb0 usb1 and usb2
<ganbold> so I can directly for instance use usb1 base
<mnemoc> yes
<mnemoc> .oO( http://sunxi.org/FreeBSD still empty.... )o
<ganbold> mnemoc: right :), so giving power to USB1 from u-boot and then set clock would be enough for initialization
<ganbold> or I maybe missing something
<mnemoc> ganbold: try on the mailing list. you'll find more people familiar with that stuff there
<ganbold> ok
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<provel_> hum... is stage/sunxi-3.4 working? I should have missed something as it doesn't even boot... should I change boot.scr or script.bin when changing from 3.0 to 3.4?
<mnemoc> no change required
<mnemoc> sunxi-3.[04] and stage/sunxi-3.[04] branches are equivalent
<mnemoc> uhm... still need to merge some edid/fbcon fix to the stage branches
* mnemoc misses libv feedback
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<provel_> to use r3p1 drivers, should I use stage branches or plain 3.4 is fine?
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<provel_> moving from stage/sunxi-3.4 to plain sunxi-3.4 caused an oldconfig
<provel_> for usb/otg
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<buZz> i am trying to set my hdmi screen to proper edid mode with the staging sunxi-3.0 branch
<buZz> it is working it seems, http://pastebin.com/Ujb2qCRi finds my modes
<buZz> but it doesnt set them
<buZz> anyone have a pointer on how to continue? hansg? techn?
<datagutt> Any update on the CedarX issues with certain video codecs?
<datagutt> allwinner planning on fixing anything?
<datagutt> Or is it fixable with the already published source
<mnemoc> only gimli has been blessed with replies from allwinner. no one else knows anything
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<gimli> i was told they are going to fix it.
<datagutt> ok, hopefully they will
<andoma> which codecs are we talking about?
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<datagutt> i should find out what codec the video i was trying to view uses
<datagutt> mpeg-4 probably
<datagutt> jerky playback sounds about right
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<rellla> gimli: but it was long time ago, they told you to fix it, right? seems neither you nor empat0 is doing any development at the moment, due to lack of a fixed library!?
<datagutt> I bet they won't fix
<datagutt> and just work on their closed a31
<datagutt> ^^
<rellla> btw, yesterday it was the first time, i had a successful usage of xbmc on a10. watching tv over xbmc/pvr/vnsi - streaming from another a10. it was usable, and WAF wasn't that bad ;-)
<mnemoc> nice :)
<gimli> rellla: correct, the only thing we can do ist wait and hope :D
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<Yaku> hey there
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<Yaku> i am currently eyeballing an rk3066 tab on aliexpress for 50$ but it gives me a scamfeeling since the shop does not have any sells yet
<mnemoc> in the worst case you'll get a refund in 3 months
<mnemoc> ali doesn't pay the sellers until you are happy
<mnemoc> so it's not a useful place for scammers
<Yaku> good to hear, there is a working 5$ voucher today for aliexpress as well
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<Yaku> MAINAGAME5 <- for any purchase over 50$
<Yaku> hmm and i just ordered an mk808B yesterday, 30 days processingtime on this tab :/
<jinzo> indeed, aliexpress provides a escort service (it's actually mandatary) - so you just make sure you're paing thtough aliexpress and that should give you quite some protection
<mnemoc> anything longer than 4 days means they don't have stock but hope a factory will send them some.... eventually
<Yaku> ah, i think i leave it, i have my a2000 and my new stick propably isn´t a good idea to buy just because it´s cheap
<Yaku> but it´s damn tempting for 45$ it´s even in the gift without vat area for the EU
<jinzo> Yaku, at least here - the usually disregard that
<jinzo> and you have to send them a reciept/some proof of purchase price
<Yaku> yes, had to do that in germany sometimes but they only got the ones less then 10 euro, my mele was declared with 15$ by tom cubie bye the time :)
<jinzo> yeah they probably only have time to check a limited number of those packages
<jinzo> I also had success with UPS, that didn't even bother
<jinzo> (and it was quite a big package)
<rm> <
<rm> how...naive must you be, to even fall for that
<rm> and congratulations on wasting that $5 coupon for nothing
<jinzo> rm, why?
<rm> because it is an unrealistic price for a tablet with these specs
<rm> from a shop with zero feedback
<rm> this practically screams "scam" (or an attempt at)
<jinzo> it's a reasonable next step in my honest opinion, you can get A13 tablets for 60€ here
<jinzo> and that's with a 22% import tax and whatnot
<jinzo> in brick-and-mortar shops
<Yaku> i didn´t purchase it, all i purchased was a mk808B for 52$ - the 10$ voucher from ali i had in my mail on new years
<jinzo> rm, also as mnemoc noted, the aliexpress escrow is quite good.
<rm> > No feedback score.
<rm> > Ships out within 30 days
<rm> just. don't.
<Yaku> yes, that made my so suspicous to ask ppl with experience
<jinzo> so I wouldn't know why this would scream scam (I know it can be, ofcourse)
<jinzo> but, it's not tottaly unrealistic in my honest opinion
<jinzo> on the other hand, I'm still a bit hungover
<rm> jinzo, price 40% lower than all other listings of this product
<rm> from a seller with no feedback
<rm> that's why this is most likely a scam
<jinzo> I really wonder how would they actually get away with it on aliexpress
<rm> dunno what's their plan, yea
<rm> maybe they hope to convince some buyers to click "confirm" because "we really really shipped it to you"
<rm> etc
<jinzo> it could be a scam attempt indeed - but I wonder if the escrow would screw so bad you would be scammed of your money
<Yaku> for 65 but also without any real feedback yet
<Yaku> and 20 days processing
<rm> also, avoid
<rm> also what you could get is:
<jinzo> and someone clicked confirm. It will be interesting to watch this stuff
<rm> "we are very sorry it was a mistake with the price, we now adjust the price to $85 plz pay additional money"
<jinzo> Yaku, and "free shipping" so price comes simmilar to the first store
<jinzo> rm, or they could be selling products that don't have the named specs (as most people wouldn't even know probably)
<jinzo> unfortunately I don't think china has EU like laws when it comes to this (they _have_ to sell you what you paid for)
<jinzo> but yes, the adventures of china buying are fun in low quantities. Anyone got that 50USD android phone from focalprice?
<ZaEarl> I bought some bearings last Oct. I still haven't received the bearings, or the refund.
<ZaEarl> ali escrow/refunds can take a long time
<jinzo> the same with paypal, but usually they go through (at least they always did for me)
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<Yaku> well, anyhow this is the stick that i ordered yesterday, that should be fine, the major interest here is still on the a10 chip ?
<mnemoc> how's the state of public linux/u-boot for mk3066?
<mnemoc> the pictures of that dongle aren't very consistent... some show it very thin and others awfully thick
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<rm> Yaku, *you* are going to tell us how's your success with it
<rm> afaik you can run some Alpha version of Ubuntu on it
<rm> maybe with some trickery one can replace that with a proper Debian root fs
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<mnemoc> with public sources?
<mnemoc> or gpl-violating android kernel?
<rm> dunno
<Mistik> Привет из России.Помогите с чипом boxchip f15.
<RaYmAn> there definitely is some rk3066 3.0.8 kernel out there with full source
<RaYmAn> And from the quick look I had, it's certainly much better code quality than allwinner =P
<mnemoc> Mistik: english please
<RaYmAn> mtd driver for nand for example =P
<rm> > RKAndroidTool v1.35 (Windows program to flash RK3066 devices). This is the program you need to flash the kernel!
<rm> *shrugs*
<rm> yeah well okay have fun with that without me somehow
<mnemoc> on allwinner's defense, their thing at least has a partition table... mtd doesn't
<RaYmAn> yeah, there's a reason everyone is moving to emmc
<Mistik> Hello from Russia. Help with the boxchip f15 chip.
<Mistik> Are necessary datasheet. On brothers datasheet is, and on it isn't present.
<mnemoc> uh... the f15 is not even listed in allwinner's site. do you want what is it? runs linux or RTOS?
<mnemoc> s/want/know/
<ibot> mnemoc meant: uh... the f15 is not even listed in allwinner's site. do you know what is it? runs linux or RTOS?
<Mistik> Linux.
<Mistik> On the book costs melis 2.0.
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<mnemoc> using an online translator? that sentence doesn't make any sense
<Mistik> Yes.I can provide a photo of my book.
<RaYmAn> do you have a device with boxchip f15?
<Mistik> Yes.
<mnemoc> rm: it seems we need a native russian here :)
<xxiao> f15? what is it? new chip or its old chip?
<RaYmAn> Mistik: step 1 would be trying to dump as much as possible off the device. Then we can perhaps help figure out more stuff
<mnemoc> allwinnertech.com doesn't list the f15. it's very strange it runs linux.
<Mistik> Second.
<xxiao> F15 is ARM9
<mnemoc> nice
<mnemoc> so it's sun3i with hdmi
<mnemoc> cool
<mnemoc> http://linux-sunxi.org/F15 wants content :)
<xxiao> the question is that, is it in volume production?
<mnemoc> Mistik: got a serial console?
<Mistik> ARM926EJ-S.
<mnemoc> it will be awesome to get sun3i working
<xxiao> why...
<Mistik> Effire colorbook tr-401.
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<Mistik> The photo is necessary?
<mnemoc> xxiao: having hardware to test we can unify the tree further
<RaYmAn> mnemoc: ARMv5TEJ it seems
<RaYmAn> that'll provide a new challenge to the rootfs's =P
<mnemoc> Mistik: for the page of the device a picture of the PCB is recommended. for the page of the SoC, not really
<mnemoc> RaYmAn: :)
<xxiao> A13/A10 could be a superset of F15, don't see the point of ARM9 nowadays
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<mnemoc> xxiao: bring freedom to device owners
<Mistik> There is one more question. You know as to stitch the book if it is updated through LiveSuit?
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<ssvb> oh, sorry, it was techn_ and maybe mnemoc also knows something
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<mnemoc> techn and rz2k are familiar with that stuff
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<ssvb> well, looks like we may need a new ioctl for getting a secure id for ump, wrapping the whole framebuffer
<ssvb> and this secure id must be different from the ones returned by GET_UMP_SECURE_ID_BUF1 and GET_UMP_SECURE_ID_BUF2, because the mali blob seems to interpret them in a special way and I can't seem to use them in any meaningful way
<mnemoc> they are different. look at the last chunk of that commit
<ssvb> I need a third ump secure id
<mnemoc> send a mail to the linux-sunxi ML describing the problem
<ssvb> ok, I'll just finish the driver first
<ssvb> I just realized that I can't get rid of "[EGL-X11] [6281] DRI2 WINDOW UMP SECURE ID CHANGED (0x2 -> 0x2)" and "[EGL-X11] [6281] DETECTED ONLY ONE FRAMEBUFFER - FORCING A RESIZE" types of problems without patching the kernel
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<mnemoc> sun4i or sun5i?
<ssvb> sun4i
<mnemoc> weird
<ssvb> mnemoc: it's not so weird, because I'm trying to implement an x11 ddx driver with zero copy for glesv2
<provel_> ssvb: when you need testing..... :-)
<ssvb> I just wanted to know if anyone ever had page flipping working with xf86-video-mali in X server, or maybe with the framebuffer targeting mali binary blobs
<provel_> ssvb: I'd say yes, xbmc on framebuffer
<provel_> doesn't consumes all the cpu of the memcpy
<ssvb> provel_: does it use glesv2 for anything?
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<provel_> it was... but I think empatzero removed glesv2 a month ago
<provel_> I check the renderer code
<ssvb> aha, does it use disp layers now?
<ssvb> I got the layers working, but still without scaling
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<ssvb> the boring guesswork figuring out how to use disp ioctls by skimming through kernel sources
<provel_> Yes I think is disp.... with m_scalingMethod = VS_SCALINGMETHOD_LINEAR
<ssvb> sounds great, do you have a link to the sources?
<techn_> ssvb: we asked that from arm.. and they said that they are the same
<provel_> thre's also some glTexSubImage2D calls
<techn_> ssvb: atleast with r3p0 buf1 and secureid ioctls was same
<ssvb> techn_: the same as what?
<techn_> ssvb: oh.. you ment bif1/buf2.. they are different
<techn_> buf1/buf2
<techn_> no you didn't.. one moment
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<provel_> ssvb: there's also FlipPage method
<ssvb> techn_: for example buf2 looks broken in the case if you don't have fb0_framebuffer_num configured to be exactly 2
<techn_> ssvb: yes.. according documentation display must be double buffered
<ssvb> provel_: yes, thanks, flipping with disp layers is simple
<ssvb> techn_: this is messed up, I want a larger framebuffer and fb0_framebuffer_num=2 is too small :)
<techn_> you want triple buffering?
<ssvb> techn_: the problem is that mali blobs interpret these buffers in some really peculiar way
<ssvb> techn_: no, I want to have x11 desktop (normal framebuffer) and at least two extra buffers (in offscreen memory) for glesv2 and xv
<ssvb> techn_: the disp layers can be used to show some of the areas of the offscreen memory as overlays, and quickly flip between them
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<ssvb> techn_: was page flipping working correctly for you with mali drivers?
<techn_> ssvb: atleast that pageflipping function was called
<techn_> but didn't debug it was working correctly
<techn_> ssvb: http://forums.arm.com/index.php?/topic/16220-what-is-get-ump-secure-id-buf2-ioctl/
<techn_> that was respond from arm
<ssvb> techn_: thanks, it does not provide much of the details though
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<techn_> ssvb: yes :)
<techn_> but still I dont understand your problem :/
<ssvb> techn_: my problem is that if I give UMP_SECURE_ID_BUF1 or GET_UMP_SECURE_ID_BUF2 to mali blobs from DRI2 code, I can't get any reasonable behaviour out of it
<techn_> and you'll need that different "#define GET_UMP_SECURE_ID _IOWR('m', 310, unsigned int)" ioctl?
<mnemoc> still sounds whimpful :<
<ssvb> techn_: mali blobs try to do something weird in addition to just damn rendering to this provided buffer
<ssvb> techn_: see the log messages above about FORCING A RESIZE, etc
<techn_> I havent seen those kind prints :/
<techn_> where they are output?
<ssvb> techn_: because you probably have not tried to use any arbitrary rectangle in the framebuffer memory as a rendering target for mali blobs
<techn_> ssvb: how I can do that? :)
<ssvb> techn_: implement your own x11 dxx driver? :)
<ssvb> techn_: but in any case, I know how to solve this problem, it just needs a simple patch for the kernel
<techn_> nice
<ssvb> techn_: I just wondered if the current kernel code is considered to be correct :)
<techn_> ssvb: no.. It's just done with those references
<ssvb> fair enough
<techn_> which are .. as you said "not much details" :p
<mnemoc> ssvb: what about pointing at the repo of your dxx driver so others can try it and try to find the real issue?
<techn_> anyway great that there is something what we can do to improve x11 support.. and someone is doing that :)
<techn_> ssvb: have you tried to render 1080p?
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<ssvb> mnemoc: I haven't pushed the code for using disp layers for glesv2 yet (it's very messy now and it would be tricky to test if it depends on a kernel patch), but some very basic stuff is here - http://cgit.freedesktop.org/~siamashka/xf86-video-fbdev/log/?h=wip-sunxi-mali
<techn_> and found bottleneck? (hopefully software :)
<WarheadsSE> I keep saying this but i need to get updated packages into the alarm repo for the sunxi
<ssvb> techn_: with 1080p I suspect that there is some memory bandwidth starvation for hdmi scanout
<mnemoc> WarheadsSE: do so :)
<ssvb> techn_: the image on the screen is shaking when I'm running glmark2 in 1080p resolution
<techn_> so it's disp problem? hw? :(
<techn_> or just some stypid extra memcpy?
<mnemoc> running it in more devices will discard hw problem
<provel_> some sync missing?
<ssvb> techn_: have you also observed similar effect?
<provel_> android version is 1080p capable?
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<techn_> ssvb: no.. just wondering what's with xbmc 1080p rendering.. it's 28fps max
<rz2k> ssvb: you've disabled scaler layer
<rz2k> in .fex
<rz2k> it is directly wired to vsync
<mnemoc> provel_: android/sunxi runs fine at 1080p.... but they don't use X11
<rz2k> I had same screen tearing effect with scaler layer disabled
<mnemoc> provel_: not the same ioctl()s etc
<ssvb> rz2k: yes, that's another different configuration to test and support :(
<ssvb> rz2k: screen tearing for very demanding screen resolutions is not totally uncommon also for the other devices, for example pandaboards had some GFX FIFO UNDERFLOW issues
<ssvb> rz2k: it might a a configuration issue, like setting right priorities for memory accesses from different hardware blocks or increasing some FIFO buffer sizes
<ssvb> rz2k: if mali is starving the screen update, then mali might need to be given lower priority in the memory controller or something like this
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<ssvb> rz2k: about the "scaler mode" in fex, do you know what are the benefits/disadvantages?
<rz2k> I know only that if it is enabled - you have vsync everywhere
<techn_> ssvb: you'll loose different pixel depth support on framebuffer layer..
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<rz2k> oh and that, VLC guy had something around there
<rz2k> forcing him to turn it off
<techn_> only argb32 and couple yuv modes are supported on scaler layer
<techn_> we could have scaler and normal layers combined.. but that can't be done without proper benchmarkinking etc
<techn_> since it could kill performance :/
<provel_> ? but the initial issue isn't that we miss performance ?
<ssvb> techn_: my understanding is that there are two different things: "scaler mode" in fex and "scaled layers"
<techn_> fb_para.mode = (g_fbi.disp_init.scaler_mode[i] == 0) ?
<techn_> DISP_LAYER_WORK_MODE_NORMAL :
<techn_> DISP_LAYER_WORK_MODE_SCALER;
<ssvb> techn_: but I did not investigate these in details yet
<ssvb> techn_: the difference is that fex configures this "scaler_mode" array - https://github.com/linux-sunxi/linux-sunxi/blob/sunxi-3.0/include/video/sunxi_disp_ioctl.h#L625 (which seems to have kind of global effect)
<ssvb> techn_: and the scaling for individual layers is configured here - https://github.com/linux-sunxi/linux-sunxi/blob/sunxi-3.0/include/video/sunxi_disp_ioctl.h#L339
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<techn_> yes.. I pasted the logic
<ssvb> techn_: I would prefer the code :)
<techn_> nice way to duplicate the logic when you have same information in multiple places :)
<ssvb> techn_: so, what is the difference?
<ssvb> techn_: my speculation is that "scaler mode" may affect the primary framebuffer, while the extra layers are optional and can be enabled/disabled
<rz2k> ssvb:
<rz2k> I've sent you a pm :)
<techn_> maybe it was supposed to work differently.. but now there is no dual fb support.. I havent got even dual output working
<ssvb> techn_: also the comments in the code say that a10 has two scalers, and a13 has only one
<buZz> so A10 can have dual output?
<buZz> awesome :O
<techn_> ssvb: yes.. I have a10 device
<techn_> buZz: Atleast in theory
<ssvb> techn_: and if you have scaler mode enabled, there is no way to have a scaled overlay window on top of the normal framebuffer
<ssvb> techn_: which would suck for Xv extension on A13 :)
<techn_> ssvb: oh
<techn_> forgot that there is only limited amount of them :(
<ssvb> buZz: my Mele A200 has HDMI and VGA connectors, maybe I can try to plug two monitors to it some day
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<buZz> well it would be awesome if A10 could do dual
<buZz> i would love HDMI + CVBS :P
<buZz> cause then i can use A10 in a VJ setup, instead of or complimenting my c2d dell
<rz2k> use this one for VJ stuff
<buZz> yeah but thats a lot more pricy than an A10 ;)
<buZz> its a nice device, but 799 usd is just a bit silly
<rz2k> also a lot more useful and opensource as hell
<buZz> hehe, i have a 12x2 videomatrix, i could get 12 cubieboards for below 799 :P
<buZz> ah well, i'll just look at the future in hope for dual output someday ;)
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<ZaEarl> BoM for the milky is $200. http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Milkymist_One_R4_BOM someone's selling it for $800? I need to get into that business.
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<L84Supper> Xilinx FPGA single board computer?
<ZaEarl> yeah, a very small spartan-6.
<L84Supper> video synthesizer wtf?
<L84Supper> Latency60 ms. Between what and what?
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<L84Supper> any news on the actual ship date of i.mx6 devices?
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