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<nulluser> I found one sure fire way to fix the 8192cu module issues. http://www.junklet.net/image/xbot/DSCN5519.JPG http://www.junklet.net/image/xbot/DSCN5527.JPG
<jelly-home> that's what I call a piggyback setup
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<nulluser> haha
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<Turl> nulluser: what is it?
<nulluser> That's the Mini Xplus. I have a lot of trouble with the 8192cu wifi module and said to hell with it
<nulluser> The module might be defective, or can't deal with the data rate that I need
<Turl> again, what is it? :P
<nulluser> The computer or the project?
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<Turl> the dlink thingy
<nulluser> oh, that's a usb wifi dongle, the RT2800usb driver works with it
<nulluser> that's to replace the one that comes with the computer
<nulluser> I had no room inside the case, and did not have the right antenna connector anyway
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<hno> slapin, not ignoring you. Just that I can't be assumed to be online right now.
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<Maqs> andoma: are you making progress with the showtime a10 port? :-)
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<ganbold> which gpio pin is enabling usb power?
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<slapin> Marex: can you check if mail with ID 20121225171253.GA18649@build.ihdev.net arrived to u-boot list, I can't see if my current smtp setup works
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<andoma> Maqs: yes, i plan to start using it myself quite soonish
<andoma> my current HTPC broke down
<andoma> but i've been away from home over xmas so i've mostly been hacking on other stuff
<Maqs> sad to hear that your HTPC broke down, but nice work, thanks :-)
<Maqs> i'd be glad to help you testing
<slapin> hno: forgot to ask you when you will be available?
* ganbold_ can't find PH address and PH06 pin
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<orly_owl> aliexpress not working for anyone else?
<orly_owl> i get 404 when i search for anything
<orly_owl> oh here it goes
<merbanan> andoma: är du hemma ikväll vid 21 tiden ?
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<Nicolas> Hi guys
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<L84Supper> anyone know whatever happened to the Gooseberry boards? 500 sold out, now their store is down, no news in weeks....
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<nulluser> Does anyone know off hand where the max cpu speed passed to cpufreq comes from? I have a board listing 600 mhz as the max speed, and I think it should be good to 1ghz or so
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<nulluser> Also, is it possible to disable the mali completely? I have tried a few times to compile the kernel with it removed but it kept crashing on boot.
<mnemoc> just disable CONFIG_MALI
<nulluser> hmm. I wonder what's going on. If some other peripheral is relying on it getting initialized
<nulluser> I tried enabling it and disabling it a few times and recompiling with that as the only change
<nulluser> Weird, seems to work now. Gremlins
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<mnemoc> assuming a sunxi kernel, after disabling mali you can disable the memory reserve of framebuffer too (making it dynamic)
<mnemoc> that will get you a bunch of extra free memory
<mnemoc> you'll still have fb, but not reserving a monster chunk of memory for it
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<nulluser> Can I just disabled it all completely? This thing is headless with a serial console.
<nulluser> Everything is disabled under graphics, unless the fb setup is elsewehere
<mnemoc> yes, just disable all the FB stuff, and video decoding, a g2d
<nulluser> ok, thanks
<mnemoc> CONFIG_VIDEO_DECODER_SUN4I for the VE, CONFIG_SUN4I_G2D for the 2d accelerator, CONFIG_SUNXI_MALI_RESERVED_MEM and CONFIG_FB_SUNXI_RESERVED_MEM
<mnemoc> the last two are selected by others, but git grep will show you
<mnemoc> those are the CONFIG_s that control the reserves
<nulluser> Does disabling it in the .fex file have any effect? or other peripherals for that matter?
<mnemoc> disabling in .fex will not affect the reserves
<mnemoc> they happen before script.bin can be read
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<mnemoc> but disabling in .fex affects the _init() of the corresponding modules
<nulluser> I don't know how clean the code is separated. They should just be #ifdefed out if the module is not included
<nulluser> But I have a feeling there is some scary stuff in there the more I look at it
<mnemoc> if you disable the module it doesn't matter if script.bin has it enabled
<nulluser> yeah
<mnemoc> allwinner code is scary ;-)
<mnemoc> but my coworker's is worse
<nulluser> heh
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<WarheadsSE> lol^ been there
<WarheadsSE> anyone seen the most recent hackaday pi post?
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<WarheadsSE> really.. this made it as a "hack" of any kind?
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<torpor> hiya
<torpor> anyone in here got any lapdock / rpi / mk802 experience?
<torpor> i need a little help getting my mk802 working with the lapdock.
<nulluser> What's a lapdock?
<torpor> end-of-lifed by motorola. new-life'd by mk802 users and raspberrypi users everywhere.
<nulluser> interesting
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<nulluser> Does it have an hdmi connection?
<torpor> yes
<nulluser> Ohh, I got ya
<torpor> and usb
<torpor> its a keyboard/mouse/monitor only
<torpor> no cpu
<nulluser> Looked like a usb charger, sync tool, like a pda cradle
<nulluser> I didn't realize the entire laptop was the device ;)
<torpor> yeah you just add cpu
<jas-hacks> hno : my compiled uboot is always trying to find evb.bin. I've created a boot.scr but that seems to make no difference. Any ideas why?
<nulluser> I know the MK802 has trouble syncing with some displays. There are some alternate .bin files to deal with it
<torpor> its not about the display but rather the usb device setup
<torpor> i'm trying to figure out how to wire up a USB-A to USB-A (male-to-male) adapter for it, but i don't know the wire outs..
<torpor> anyone know how to hack up such a cable - do i need to cross some wires, or is it just a straight pass-through?
<nulluser> should be straight, buy you are not hurting anything by having D+ and D- swapped
<nulluser> it just won't work
<torpor> ok
<torpor> i'll do it and see if it works. i guess i can't lose.
<mnemoc> jas-hacks: that comes from your dirty env
<mnemoc> jas-hacks: dd if=/dev/zero .... to clear it
<hno> jas-hacks, you probably have a saved environment.
<jas-hacks> hno : so where does it pick up the saved enivronment from?
<hno> jas-hacks, from sd or nand depending on which u-boot you are using.
<hno> on nand it's the env partition. On sd see our u-boot github wiki page.
<jas-hacks> hno: ok, must on sd because another sd card boots fine with uboot.
<mnemoc> dd if=/dev/zero of=${card} bs=1024 seek=544 count=128 should do the trick
<nulluser> Is there a guide to transfer an SD image to flash to eliminate the SD card?
<mnemoc> hno: hi, about the A10/PIO raw table in the wiki. can I split it an wikify it or you want to keep a raw one?
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<hno> mnemoc, it's there as a reference only. Notr meant to stay for long.
<mnemoc> hno: cool :)
<hno> nulluser, it's nothing written up on it yet I think. Most people use livesuit for flashing.
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<techn_> nulluser: You have serial ?
<hno> but we do have a tool to manage partition tables.
<hno> and from there it's technically not a complicated process.
<techn_> mnemoc: did you notice this link
<mnemoc> nice
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<nulluser> Yes, I have serial
<techn_> one moment.. I'll update sunxi-bsp
<mnemoc> techn_: if it works, much better than using allwinner-tools
<mnemoc> techn_: ask him if he wanna join ;-)
<hno> techn_, oh, he pushed his work so far. It's far from complete but a good start.
<nulluser> I have a shell on the console, should be able to mount the flash and just copy
<techn_> mnemoc: hno: atleast that repo has best image unpacking tools
<nulluser> more worried about it booting properly
<techn_> they work with a13 images also.. and no viruses :/
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<mnemoc> techn_: invite him to join ;-)
<techn_> nulluser: now there should be tool to create ext4 format rootfs file, which can be used with mk_livesuit.sh.
<techn_> but its not ready yet..
<nulluser> Is there anything weird going on, like a compressed image or something?
<mnemoc> livesuit images are weird
<techn_> and it needs to debugged why it wont load rootfs
<techn_> but I gotta go now
<slapin> techn_: use genext2fs and pretend it is ext4?
<torpor> woohoo i got it working!
<torpor> lapdock + mk802 == nice ARM netbook! :)
<slapin> hno: it seems we can update mtd ourselves, and I half-made it compile, so I hope can submit mtd patches next week.
<torpor> sure beats the freakin' touchbook junk
<slapin> torpor: where do you all get that lapdock?
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<torpor> ebay
<torpor> now to install ubuntu ..
<mnemoc> they aren't as cheap as "advertised", but still a decent deal
<torpor> i got mine for 40euros
<nulluser> I saw one for $80 or so, pretty good deal
<nulluser> Aesthetically I don't like how the device sticks out the back
<mnemoc> cheap ones are in US. but usually with awful shipping fees to EU
<lkcl_> torpor: can you please provide a link (or a model number)
<torpor> lkcl_, you want a link to buy one or just to see what it is?
<mnemoc> buy
<mnemoc> 40E is amazing :)
<torpor> nulluser, yeah its something that needs to be worked on. i just finished making a cable for mine .. next week i'll 3d print an adapter for it so that the mk802 just slides in nice and neat.
<torpor> its 80euro's now. ;P
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<mnemoc> +20 for shipping :p
<torpor> thats pretty whack
<torpor> i guess i got lucky
<mnemoc> 100E would be fair if you wouldn't need such a mess of cables and adapters to use it on anything but the atrix
<torpor> well its only about 10eu worth of cables
<torpor> i guess it'll be a sexier device when the 3d-printed custom adapter is finished.
<nulluser> Order it with free shipping and hope they don't notice the location ;)
<nulluser> I can buy them and ship back out if someone really wants one
<nulluser> Not sure what shipping costs
<mnemoc> techn_: the cable mess ruins usability. not only their cost
<mnemoc> nulluser: ships only to US
<torpor> thingiverse.com will soon have a solution, don't wory!
<mnemoc> torpor: :)
<nulluser> hah, don't try to go through an airport ;)
<torpor> well it will be difficult if they ask me to turn it on .. ;)
<ZaEarl> it took me about an hour to go through security last time. laptops, tablets, cables, console, controllers, etc.
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<mnemoc> I had troubles in .fr with a chinese tablet because the battery was taped ... "suspiciously"
<penguin42> haha
<penguin42> heck you worry just how many really dangerous things these guys miss because they worry about stuff like that
<mnemoc> from eu airports I hate frenchs the most
* penguin42 sees picture of MK808B - Rockchip based - it has a nice little grill on it
<torpor> bbiab
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<nulluser> Any tips to prolong the life of the SD card with a rootfs? I have had a couple do bad
<penguin42> nulluser: 1) Buy good SD cards, 2) Don't use them for rootfs - it'll always suck
<nulluser> hmm.
<rm> find any guide to optimizing a GNU/Linux system for an SSD
<rm> there are dozens of those
<rm> boils down to reducing writes
<jelly-home> "boot off them but don't write there?"
<nulluser> well, I keep testing kernels
<nulluser> about 60 or 80 in, I'm getting some weird stuff happening
<penguin42> nulluser: That's the least of the problem; things like high bandwidth log writes, and/or swapping to it really do them in
<nulluser> shouldn't fail that fast, but I'm pretty sure the SD cards are messed p
<mnemoc> nulluser: for testing kernels you can use u-boot's tftp, and avoid writting and rewritting the uImage
<nulluser> what about the modues?
<nulluser> *modules
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<mnemoc> nfs? :)
<penguin42> nulluser: yeh NFS, and you can also load the initramfs via tftp
<penguin42> any one know what an mk809 is apposed to an mk808b and how hackable the 809 is?
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<torpor> re
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<rm> oh this made slashdot
<rm> good to have some mk802 publicity
<rm> bring it into the brainwashed by the RASPBERRY PI masses
<Maqs> lol
* penguin42 just ordered an 809
<penguin42> was 39GBP+4.50 shipping from an amazon uk vendor
<mnemoc> but shipped from hk anyway :p
<penguin42> yeh probably
<penguin42> still easier for me to get it via amazon uk
<rm> RK3066 sucks
<rm> "ubuntu barely works and you need to use hideous hacks to even boot it"
<hansg> rm, why ? I'm focussing on getting Linux running nice on the RK3066 now, but RK3066 looks nice too
<rm> vs "a number of distros simply boot from an SD card" with the A10
<rm> more power to you then
<hansg> rm, never mind you've already answered my question
<hansg> :)
<hansg> Gah, typing == difficult, I meant: "I'm focussing on getting Linux running nice on the *A10* now, but RK3066 looks nice too"
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<rm> ah
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<rm> well, it looks nice on paper
<Skaag> looks like my A13 does not reboot properly if I run "reboot" from the shell. is this a known issue?
<rm> "man, it's dual-core, that must be cool!"
<Skaag> oh wait, it does, just takes 2 very long minutes…
<jas-hacks> What frame rate should you be getting in glxgears with mali drivers?
<mnemoc> Skaag: using a recent u-boot-sunxi ?
<Skaag> yes
<penguin42> rm: Well, it's dual core and A9, and that is for most things significantly faster than a single A8
<Skaag> compiled last week
<rm> Skaag, fwiw my MK802 didn't reboot properly with any powered USB devices connected; but then eventually this problem just went away; I relate that to newer kernel releases
<Skaag> I see
<rm> penguin42, so
<rm> imagine you got one
<rm> how do you go about running Debian with X11 on it
<Skaag> ok no, it didn't boot
<penguin42> which I hopefully will in a couple of weeks
<penguin42> rm: Good question, don't honestly know yet; there seem to be people who've rooted them, and I'm assuming there is a way to get to a boot loader, and the kernel source is apparently released
<rm> seem to be! assuming! apparently released!
<rm> have fun~
<rm> I'll just stick an SD card into my A10
<rm> :D
<penguin42> https://github.com/AndrewDB/rk3066-kernel looks promising
<jelly-home> too bad j1nx attempt at crowdfunding release of amlogic source didn't work out
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<Turl|> hi all
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<Skaag> what's a simple way to throw an image onto the frame buffer device?
<nulluser> in C?
<hansg> Oh yeah, after poking hdmi transmitter registers the entire day I've *finally* found the bit to enable double clock pll usage in the A10's hdmi transmitter. So now I've it doing 1920x1200 on my 24 inch :)
<Skaag> in any way really
<nulluser> in C you just open the /dev/fb device and write to it
<mnemoc> hansg: awesome!
<Triffid_Hunter> hansg: nice
<nulluser> If you had a raw image in the correct format, you could just cat it to /dev/fb
<Skaag> nulluser: I tried to use fbi to display something but it won't budge
<Turl> hansg: awesome :)
<Skaag> Turl: yes, fbi is from fbida
<Skaag> that's what I tried
<nulluser> Do you have a reference linux install you can test on, like your main pc
<Skaag> I pass -d /dev/fb0 but it gives me ioctl VT_GETSTATE: Invalid argument (not a linux console?)
<nulluser> Make sure whatever you do works on a host first
<nulluser> so you can isolate a command problem, or a problem with the framebuffer device
<Turl> Skaag: I'm guessing you have disp, lcd and hdmi modules loaded right?
<Skaag> I'm using the LCD right now
<Skaag> I'm not on VGA
<Skaag> I have mali, disp_ump and ump modules loaded
<hansg> And now I'm toast, although I'm quite happy with the result, poking registers an entire day long sort of wears one out. See you all later.
<Skaag> hansg: I agree with you 100%
<Skaag> hansg: It's more exhausting than people might think...
<hansg> yep
<Turl> poking clocks is worse
<Turl> because when you poke them wrong you need to reboot the board :)
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<Turl> Skaag: did you configure script.bin adequately?
<Skaag> X, GDM, etc, they all work fine...
<Skaag> I'm just trying to show a splash image before they load while the system is booting :-)
<Skaag> (because it takes some 10 ~ 15 seconds, and the user doesn't know what's going on)
<Turl> so if you stop X and gdm and run fbi it doesn't work?
<Skaag> exactly
<Skaag> I tried just doing cat /dev/random > /dev/fb0 but nothing happens
<Turl> you need to send an ioctl I think
<Skaag> oh well this is not that important to be honest
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<Turl> /dev/random won't give you much output btw
<Turl> try with urandom or zero
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<Skaag> yes
<Skaag> with /dev/urandom writing to /dev/fb0 produces results
<Skaag> now my screen is full of garbage, tasty colorful garbage
<Skaag> I like it
<Skaag> I also like how it returns an error of No space left on device when the buffer is full :)
<Turl> you can try making a raw format image on your favorite image editor and cat that
<nulluser> cool, what was wrong?
<Skaag> ah, managed to fix it with fbi
<Skaag> I was missing -T 1
<Skaag> so: fbi -d /dev/fb0 -T 1 MoneyBaboon.png
<Skaag> found it on google… the man page doesn't mention -T
<Skaag> imagine that, an incomplete, inaccurate man page
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