<Lantizia>
i've pulled apart my netbook hoping to find a port i can use to reflash it with something else... can't see anything on the internal board itself
<Lantizia>
however there is an external port I could never figure out... it kinda looks like a microsd port but isn't - it had a usb logo next to it but they put a black dot over the symbol to cover it up
<Lantizia>
any ideas what it might be?
<guesticulate>
hey, I modprobed touchscreen ft5x_ts ... loaded successfully... touch still not working. any ideas? i'm using 3.0.52 and def_config
<guesticulate>
syslog says: 'CONFIG_FT5X0X_MULTITOUCH is defined.'
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<Lantizia>
this mysterious port I'm trying to identify seems to have been made by 'astron' - but it doesn't say what it is
<Lantizia>
however flip the board over and it's right on top of the nand flash i think - a hy27ut088g2a
<oliv3r>
so it looks like SD and USB but it is niether?
<oliv3r>
can you trace the connections and see where it goes?
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<binarym>
hi, i bought an arm netbook from french online store Cdiscount. Brand is "oceanic", hard is CortexA9 1.5.ghz with 1Go RAM
<binarym>
does anybody got some infos about this hardware ?
<binarym>
(it runs Android ICS)
<binarym>
i'm looking for the key press to get recovery menu
<binarym>
or UBoot/whatever hack to boot from ssd
<mnemoc>
you'll probably have to open it and see
<binarym>
mnemoc: really ? but ... see what ?
<mnemoc>
the SoC and the posibility of getting an uart
<binarym>
hmmm ... this is a bit overkill for me :( (and i have no skills in electronic ... )
<binarym>
i just want to gain root on my ICS to install "debian kit" on it :(
<mnemoc>
in general, unless your device is VERY well supported by open communities, you can't do much without a serial console
<binarym>
i'm quite sure that bootloader is UBoot
<binarym>
since i saw some messages in dmesg about uboot parameters
<mnemoc>
gpl violating one most likely
<mnemoc>
first of all you need to indentify the SoC
<binarym>
mnemoc: what you call SoC is cpu ?
<mnemoc>
the SoC is a big chip with several controllers inside, one of them is the general purpose processor normally called cpu
<binarym>
ok
<binarym>
i can browse /proc fs on my android device
<binarym>
for CPU, i got "ARMv7 Processor rev 0 (v71)" and "Hardware: WMT"
<binarym>
in /proc/devices i have many mentions of "wmt-*" devices
<binarym>
i see a "rda5990_power_ctrl" device too
<mnemoc>
probably a WM8850 then
<binarym>
is VT1603 a valid SoC name ?
<binarym>
i can see that on my dmesg
<mnemoc>
google says VT1603 is your TS
<mnemoc>
you can probably find how to root WM8850 android devices googling a bit
<binarym>
ok, i'm gonna do that thx for the pointers :)
<mnemoc>
yw
<binarym>
it seems as if the solution is on the SD port ...
<binarym>
mnemoc: it seems that i have to write some uboot commands to a wmt_scriptcmd
<binarym>
is it possible to write a wmt_scriptcmd that would only dump uboot config to screen ?
<mnemoc>
binarym: the "screen" is not a natural periferal of arm devices. it's very unlikely you can get u-boot writing anything there
<mnemoc>
at most a bitmap, but most of the times not even that
<binarym>
i guess there's no way to make uboot dump its config to SD too ?
<binarym>
my pb is that i would like to save config at first, to be able to rollback
<binarym>
i could dump /dev/mtd/mtd<device of uboot>
<binarym>
but since i'm not root on the device (android shit) i can't access this files
<mnemoc>
find out where u-boot's env is stored too
<mnemoc>
getting something written to the card is less unlikely, but still not likely
<libv>
i only need to this a few times until i have figured out mipmapping
<libv>
rz2k: nope, not even close
<libv>
rz2k: 70% waiting for swap to be written out to mmc
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<libv>
580MB virtual already for compiling this file
<libv>
ooh, 640
<libv>
it must've just mmapped the output file
<libv>
i am such a tosser, i could compile this just fine in ram on my a7hd
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<libv>
why am i wasting my time on the mele
<libv>
*sigh*
<Mehhh>
512 device?
<libv>
1GB meles are very rare still
<libv>
so yes
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<rz2k>
we had around a guy with one
<rz2k>
he posted pics at wiki
<libv>
yeah, he had the 3700
<libv>
i have 30MB swap left at this point, and it is still compiling
<libv>
830MB virtual
<libv>
it's just a big array, wtf is it wasting its time on
<andoma>
hno: the mk802ii in u-boot is for devices with 1gb ram, right?
<andoma>
from what i can understand in board/allwinner/mk802ii/dram.c
<andoma>
and for the 512 MB verions there would need to be an additional dram setup function
<andoma>
s/an additional/a different/
<ibot>
andoma meant: and for the 512 MB verions there would need to be a different dram setup function
<rz2k>
libv: when you RE'd the original Mali libs, did you found any hardcoded register/platform definitions?
<libv>
rz2k: there are some
<libv>
rz2k: which i probably did not encounter
<rz2k>
I'm asking that out of interest for the exsynos4 future with mali-400mp4 linux missing at all, only libs for vithar module (that combined mali-t6xx/400/200 kernel driver) are available.
<libv>
rz2k: it's worth a try
<libv>
rz2k: but it could very well be that only a single pp is used at all times
<rz2k>
they didnt even try to load the mali-400 only drivers
<rz2k>
my odroid will arrive at monday
<libv>
hrm... the question is, does the allwinner egl use fb or disp?
<rz2k>
android one?
<rz2k>
linux lib uses fb hardcoded, afaik.
<libv>
fb
<rz2k>
I believe our libs are just plain DDK output without anything changed.
<libv>
strings confirms that
<libv>
the few registers that are passed to kernel space are pretty standard across mali400
<libv>
the rest is kernel interface
<libv>
where memory lives and how much is available is also passed from the kernel to userspace
<libv>
so it should be mostly SoC agnostic
<rz2k>
interesting, so there is chance for making something out of exynos...
<libv>
ok, 13mb swap left, it will kill itself soon
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<mnemoc>
andoma: there are 512MiB versions of the mk802ii??
<andoma>
maybe it's a mk802i ?
<andoma>
i have two . the look exactly the same except that one says "mk802+" on front (1gig ram) and one says "mk802" (512mb ram)
<mnemoc>
thenthe mk802+ is an mk802/1GiB + PMU
<mnemoc>
s/then//
<ibot>
mnemoc meant: the mk802+ is an mk802/1GiB + PMU
<mnemoc>
the mk802ii is a different animal (ports wise)
<andoma>
ah ok
<andoma>
so there's no support for those mk802 in u-boot or can another board be used for those
<mnemoc>
the mele's should run fine
<andoma>
ah, both for 512 and 1gig?
<mnemoc>
or you can submit mk802 support
<mnemoc>
no, only for the 512
<andoma>
ok i'll play around with that a bit then thanks
<mnemoc>
the easiest path is to extract the script.bin, convert it to .fex, then run a10-meminfo on android, fix the [dram_para] section, submit the .fex to sunxi-boards, and then I add support for it in both, the bsp and u-boot-linux
<Mehhh>
ibot what
<ibot>
idk
<Mehhh>
yes you can
<Mehhh>
look in the folders i literally just did them and edited a few
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<slapin>
mnemoc: hi
<slapin>
mnemoc: I want to clarify a few things
<slapin>
mnemoc: I now have 3 variants of mk802* clones - one with 512MB / no PMU, one with 1GB / no PMU, one with 1GB and PMU.
<slapin>
mnemoc: which one is which?
<slapin>
they all were in the same green boxes with android 4.0 mini pc
<slapin>
non-PMU versions have the same board layout.
<slapin>
actually, the same board
<mnemoc>
afaik no PMU means mk802
<mnemoc>
1GB+PMU = mk802+
<mnemoc>
1GB+PMU+extra usb = mk802ii
<mnemoc>
afaik
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<rz2k>
why just dont name it mk802_<ramsize>_pmu and mk802_ramsize_nopmu ?
<rz2k>
in u-boot configs
<rz2k>
1gb pmu and no pmu will probably have same dram config.
<mnemoc>
i try to keep 1:1 mapping between u-boot board names and fex files...
* mnemoc
wants a power bank with 18650 batteries than can be used "online" .... sniff sniff sniff
<slapin>
mnemoc: if you find one, pklease let me know
<slapin>
s/pklease/please/
<ibot>
slapin meant: mnemoc: if you find one, please let me know
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<libv>
yay.
<libv>
killed the kernel with a 4096x4096 texture :)
<libv>
got it to oops on the big texture :)
<slapin>
strange
<rz2k>
who oopsed?
<rz2k>
mali?
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<libv>
mali, yes
<slapin>
mnemoc: extra USB on mk802ii = 4 x usb ports, am I right?
<slapin>
mnemoc: 1xotg + 1 x host + 1 x wifi + 1 extra?
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<andoma>
slapin: looks like we're in the same boat
<andoma>
i've different mk802 as well trying to figure out what is what
<mnemoc>
slapin: i don't know in detail. I've never cared about those dongles
<mnemoc>
slapin: the but mk802ii has at least one extra usb port
<mnemoc>
while the ports of the other two are identical
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<Mehhh>
Guys, the MK802 has mini usb, MK802 II uses micro
<Mehhh>
what's so hard
<Manofthe1ea>
hmm?
<Manofthe1ea>
This seems relevent to my interests.
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<Mehhh>
also, the MK802's have two ram portions
<Mehhh>
the mk802ii's have 4
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<techn_>
mnemoc: is there something more blocking 3.4 kernel than that usb bug?
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<mnemoc>
techn_: the gadget code still hasn't been ported at all
<mnemoc>
needs to be factored out of android.c
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<lkcl_>
first post on a slashdot article, w00t! wanted to do that for a looong time ha ha
<traeak>
sadly the rate of new SOC releases seems to be outpacing your ability to put them into a platform
<traeak>
btw i hope the best with that new more open SOC that has more integrated vector type instructions
<lkcl_>
traeak: we'll get there. hey, you wanna do me a favour and point that out on slashdot?
<traeak>
pint out which ? the rate of soc releases you mean?
<traeak>
i gave up posting on /. you have to be one of the cool kids to ever get anywhere
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<L84Supper>
don't feed the trolls
<lkcl_>
traeak: what the heck - both of them. make them anonymouse.
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<traeak>
sure
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<lkcl_>
ta traek
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<traeak>
heh
<Manofthe1ea>
Anonymouse? Is that a squeek in the dark?
<jelly-home>
one step to tasty Anonymousse
<Manofthe1ea>
So... if I have an mk802ii, and I use the evb.bin from the mele... the worst that happens is that it doesn't boot, right? I'm not going to damage the board?
<Manofthe1ea>
I see I should probably modify the dram_size...
<Manofthe1ea>
Is there a reference for getting the script.bin from the mk802ii through the loaded android?
* Manofthe1ea
googles.
<RaYmAn>
Manofthe1ea: mount nanda somewhere (can be done through a rooted adb shell), then copy it
<Manofthe1ea>
oh, cool. Thanks
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<traeak>
isn't USB3 fairly cpu intensive or does it have some new modes which offload better?
<traeak>
just reading about hanging sata, gigabit, etc off the usb3 host
<lkcl_>
honestly don't know. it's pretty heavy-duty data rates so...
<lkcl_>
isn't the data going over DMA in USB, so nothing to do with the processor?
<traeak>
ugh i'm over my head. if the usb3 implementation is clean (unlikethe lame assed raspberry pi) i think it should be mostly okay
<lkcl_>
traeak: me too :)
<lkcl_>
well... that's the fun part: this is entirely new. no kernel drivers. at all. pretty wild, huh?
<traeak>
so it sounds like the new SOC will be ready soon, just the fun of cost per unit and getting stuff manufactured with the new SOC
<lkcl_>
yeah. it's going to *have* to be out fast. even 8 cores won't have a long shelf-life.
<lkcl_>
it's a stepping-stone / proving-ground for the route to 28nm.
<traeak>
so my guess is that this will be smaller and more efficient than arm, etc
<traeak>
and hopefully they have proper licenses, etc with mips (or whoever) so there's no ip headaches
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<lkcl_>
in a word, yes. but not smaller and more efficient than a combined SoC+proprietary-GPU. but, there, we win on "ease of programming" and therefore on time-to-market
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<Manofthe1ea>
what are you referring to?
<Manofthe1ea>
no drivers, USB3?
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<Manofthe1ea>
hmm... now I need help rooting the mk802. To GOOGLE!
<Manofthe1ea>
looks like it's pretty simple... "Type su"
<jinzo>
mnemoc, had the time to reformat it and add some additional information
<jinzo>
mnemoc, if it's good/better than before - copy it to the Main page and delete it from here
<jinzo>
ofcourse there is a lot of room for improvement
<jinzo>
and I'll try to work on it, maybe even something that can be auto generated from the templates that are used - will look into it
<jinzo>
mnemoc, and I think see also should be done as wikipedia has on some articles (eg, processors, and then all of them are listed instead of listing them)
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<jinzo>
and it would probably be good idea to start categorizing information (for example A10:JTAG, boards/products with product:CubieBoard)
<jinzo>
or even A10:products:something, so we can do a good see also
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<mnemoc>
we have [[Category:Cubieboard]] and [[Category:A10]] and [[Category:Tutorial]] many other categories, but I've probably missed some pages
<mnemoc>
there is also a products category tree with [[Category:A10 Tablet]] for example
<jinzo>
yes I know it's misplaced - but if I started there.. :P
<jinzo>
so I'll move it then
<libv>
mnemoc: ebay.de has a 10" netbook with boxchip a10 wm8850...
<jinzo>
there, moved it
<libv>
of course, the idiot selling it does not answer emails :(
<libv>
ah, i have seen similar devices with similar description
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<jinzo>
mnemoc, in a week or so (when I have time, and if noone else does it before) I'll put some more work into it
<libv>
someone just has to bite the bullet and buy it i guess
<jinzo>
then I'll tackle the categories and stuff if you don't mind
<jinzo>
libv, you should see what I had to do to get some half-decent tablets for a company that asked me to order them from within of Slovenia
<jinzo>
like people don't want money or something
<jinzo>
on the side note: I can't believe it, two Allwinners SoCs have the same style of Block diagram
<jinzo>
surreal feeling that they in fact, can manage at least some consistency :D
<lerc>
Somewhere in China there is a company running a business model of having a customer base made entirely of people buying their products to see what they actually are.
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<libv>
yeah, it is amazing the descriptions those chinese throw out
<libv>
that they have any sales at all
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