mnemoc changed the topic of #arm-netbook to: EOMA: Embedded Open Modular Architecture - Don't ask to ask. Just ask! - http://elinux.org/Embedded_Open_Modular_Architecture/EOMA-68 - ML arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk - Logs http://ibot.rikers.org/%23arm-netbook or http://irclog.whitequark.org/arm-netbook/ - http://rhombus-tech.net/
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<libv> hno: the ac stuff is display and things, i doubt that there is any 2d accel, as that was probably not deemed necessary as the "3d engine would do it all for you"
<libv> eating 8MB per context, and taking ages to switch contexts... but hey
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<Turl> libv: btw, is there any specific reason why eglswapbuffers would become slow if you mix allocation types?
<Turl> libv: the exynos people were seeing ~100ms runs when mixing framebuffer and ion or framebuffer and ump allocations, don't remember now the specifics :P
<hp__> darn.... i am so tempted to order a HI802 HDMI TV Dongle (Freescale i.MX6) Quad core Cortex A9 Arp cpu.. ugh
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<Jef91> Huzzah!
<Jef91> Debian on the Chromebook
<Jef91> little bugger flies
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<ManoftheSea> If I'm trying to run the a10 in qemu, what -cpu ? should I use? Cortex-A8?
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<ManoftheSea> Is this the right place to get help with making rootfs on SDcard for working with a10 devices? Or is there a seperate channel for that purpose? mnemoc?
<Turl> ManoftheSea: yeah
<Turl> ManoftheSea: you won't be able to run the kernel on qemu though
<Turl> ManoftheSea: I suggest you use a chroot + binfmt with qemu-static-arm
<ManoftheSea> thanks turl. I will attempt to figure out what you said, but it looks useful.
<ManoftheSea> (what's binfmt?)
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* ManoftheSea has found info on the internet. Will have more questions tomorrow
<ManoftheSea> ok, I think I got debootstrap --second-stage running in a qemu chroot.
<ManoftheSea> Tomorrow, I find out if my uboot and kernel match correctly. MK802 mk. II here.
<Turl> ManoftheSea: I was suggesting debootstrap with --foreign, then installing qemu-user-static on your pc (sets up binfmt by itself even), then copy /usr/bin/qemu-arm-static yourchroot/usr/bin
<Turl> then chroot to the arm install and run the second step (debootstrap --second-stage or so)
<ManoftheSea> Yep. Thanks, turl, I found all that just from your mention of the programs. I have completed the second stage, and an finalizing the debootstrap now.
<Turl> I think there's even a guide of it on the wiki
<ManoftheSea> hmm, I didn't find that yet.
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<libv> Turl: could be that not all buffers are mapped in the range where the display engine might directly accept the
<libv> them
<libv> then you need to revert to a copy
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<orly_owl> ahoy even
<orly_owl> wrong channel
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<hno> Turl, MALI apparently have a static region it's allowed to DMA to, other regions apparently gets copied by the CPU.. Saw some post in developer.arm.com forum about performance issues and ARM pointed to possible kernel/userspace mismatch in allowed direct access memory region.
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<rm> [ 3] 0.0-10.0 sec 112 MBytes 94.1 Mbits/sec
<rm> MK802 + ASIX Electronics Corp. AX88772A Fast Ethernet
<rm> I had reports about this chip being problematic
<rm> but mine seems to work so far
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<penguin42> rm: I think you get some hastles with different makes of board with them on and whether or not they happen to like the hub and host
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<Turl> libv: hno: thanks for the info
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<penguin42> hmm I asked a uk distributor about the Mirabox and they're saying they're not actually available until 1st quarter next year
<Turl> Quarx: :)
* Turl needs to push his 4.2 work to github
<Quarx> oo
<Quarx> what works?
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<Turl> Quarx: it boots, wifi works, audio works
<Turl> Quarx: need to test hwcomposer, it wasn't loading due to bad version
<Turl> Quarx: we are affected by the same mali issues as the exynos people
<Turl> maybe need to adjust mountpoints, haven't checked what's the new ones on 4.2
<RaYmAn> mountspoints need fixing, otherwise android crashes
<Quarx> on razr we didn't change anything
<Quarx> after 4.1
<Quarx> but on defy i still can't get work sd-ext
<RaYmAn> you didn't add that silly patch that just hacks around having to change mountpoints?
<Turl> RaYmAn: well it didn't crash for me o.O
<RaYmAn> a lot of people decided to fix the symptom rather than fix the cause
<Turl> unless CM merged that patch
<RaYmAn> they might have I guess
<Turl> RaYmAn: what's the new mountpoints btw?
<Turl> we have internal+external vfats
<Quarx> on defy i can browse sdcard only via adb, android didn't see files and sd%)
<Quarx> but it's mounted
<RaYmAn> Turl: well, not mount points per say I guess, but the mount stuff in init.<device>.rc: http://pastebin.com/0gkkvSnA
<Turl> RaYmAn: well I've been using /storage/sdcardX since 4.1
<Turl> I didn't add any of the other emulated crap though
<Turl> where do you mount stuff with vold?
<RaYmAn> Turl: of course, that was required in 4.1. This is required in 4.2
<Turl> /storage/sdcard0 is a symlink, where do you mount it then? :p
<RaYmAn> I mount internal eMMC data on /data as always
<Turl> yeah but that's not internal vfat
<Turl> :)
<RaYmAn> yeah, there's not really any place for internal vfat anymore :P
<Quarx> RaYmAn: any changes for sd-ext?
<Quarx> defy doesn't have internal vfat
<jinzo> Motorola Defy is using an A10?
<Turl> no, it has an OMAP3 CPU
<RaYmAn> this channel might have become mostly a10, but it is still a generic channel ;)
<jinzo> ah ok, sorry - I loked at your android github repo and had to ask
<jinzo> RaYmAn, I actually tought because of "Repo entries for CM7/9/10 Nightly builds, Motorola Defy,Defy+,Bravo. Ainol Novo7 Aurora(A10) "
<Turl> cpu wise it should be roughly equivalent on performance
<Turl> both are cortex a8 and the clocks are fairly similar
<jinzo> but it's very nice to see someone is working on a A10 CM (and I quite like ainol as a company)
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<Quarx> i wonder why they no release official 4.1
<jinzo> (and they're quite interesting, every new product "line" they out has a new processor - and everything in there has the same on - A10 for previous, AML8726-M6 for current ad ATM7029)
<jinzo> probably because they wish to make money off the new ones - they're pumping new products at high pace and like I said - newer the same platform
<jinzo> I really don't know why underdogs like them don't go with CM all the way
<Quarx> but almost all sources available for 4.1 (from allwinner)
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<Turl> hipboi: hi
<hipboi> Turl: hi
<Turl> hipboi: regarding your last email, why A31 and not A20? :)
<hipboi> A31 first
<hipboi> A20 later
<hipboi> just like A10 and then A13
<Turl> so allwinner doesn't have A20 chips yet?
<hipboi> sorry, i don't know
<hipboi> i only know the time order
<Turl> A20 is pin compatible with A10 and has Mali GPU
<hipboi> yes
<Turl> personally I think it would be a better fit (lima hint hint :) ) and faster to make for you guys
<Turl> and I think it has sata so you don't need to lose features
<hipboi> yes
<hipboi> plus sata and 1000M ethernet
<hipboi> a perfect upgrade for cubieboard
<hipboi> only one modification of hardware
<hipboi> the ethernet phy
<ManoftheSea> Good morning guys
<Gumboot> Yay gigabit!
<ManoftheSea> I'm messing with a MK802 mkII, and I think I got my root fs all set up and qemu-debootstrapped. I see some reference to "issue 46", but the page doesn't load.
<ManoftheSea> When I try to boot, no output.
<Turl> did you flash uboot to your card and set up kernel properly?
<Turl> also, what output are you expecting?
<ManoftheSea> I have an 8 GB SDcard, with SPL at 8k and uBoot at 32k, then a 32MB partition formatted vfat with uImage and script.bin, then a root partition.
<ManoftheSea> Turl: I have the MK802v2 hooked up to HDMI. I thought I'd get a console. no?
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<Turl> ManoftheSea: did you enable fbcon? your best bet is to use uart though
<Turl> there's a lot of stuff that could go wrong
<Turl> and you cannot catch it with hdmi
<Turl> you probably need an uboot environment/uEnv.txt to add rootwait btw
<ManoftheSea> hmm... I like your suggestions, but I have no idea what you're actually saying. uart requires taking the case off the stick and connecting to JTAG?
<Turl> s/to JTAG/to an UART to USB adapter/
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<ManoftheSea> USB->serial? Hmm, I don't have one. will have to acquire it.
<Turl> ManoftheSea: idk if it is your mk802, but see http://linux-sunxi.org/MK802
<Turl> there's a pic pointing at the uart pins there
<ManoftheSea> so, not serial.
<ManoftheSea> yeah, that's not the same one. I have a mk2, which has 2 micro-usb
<ManoftheSea> (and a full size USB)
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<ManoftheSea> ok, I don't have a boot.cmd.
<ManoftheSea> I will work on that piece.
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<ManoftheSea> Where does "mkimage" come from?
<Turl> some uboot tools package iirc
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<ManoftheSea> so, "first-steps" doesn't say what to do with boot.scr. Does it go on the boot partition?
<Turl> yes, together with script.bin and uImage
<ManoftheSea> and you mentioned using fbcon. That goes in /etc/modules?
<Turl> possibly, don't know for sure
* Turl prefers =y instead of =m if he is going to use the feature, =n otherwise
<ManoftheSea> ok, I'll check the .config
<ManoftheSea> I don't have the module, it seems
<ManoftheSea> says no. Guess I need a toolchain and a recompile. Whee! Thanks again, Turl
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<hno> ManoftheSea, for small changes to the boot procedure uEnv.txt is simpler.
<techn_> hno: finally I found trigger for that boot problem :/
<techn_> If I comment out sunxi_gpio_set_cfgpin(SUNXI_GPB(22), SUN4I_GPB22_UART0_TX); \ sunxi_gpio_set_cfgpin(SUNXI_GPB(23), SUN4I_GPB23_UART0_RX); , device boots
<techn_> I'm wondering why it's so.. and why lichee u-boot doesn't have those lines :/
<ManoftheSea> hno, it looks like I shouldn't be expecting HDMI out, right? So, I need to get the usb->uart before I can do more.
<ManoftheSea> ah, thanks techn_
<hno> ManoftheSea, depends on what you have..
<hno> quite a lot need to be right for framebuffer LCD/HDMI output.
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<ManoftheSea> uboot needs to be compiled for MK802 also, right? Not just the mele version?
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<libv> ManoftheSea: mk802 version indeed
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<rz2k> lol, we had a patch in spamfolder for three days
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<rz2k> damn google groups
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<Mehhh> Have there been any pushes in the past day?
<Mehhh> I bundled the bsp files from the most current 1 1/2 days ago and didn't know if i was up-to-date enough to push
<Turl> rz2k: the interrupt one?
<rz2k> yeah
<Turl> just got it on my mailbox :P
<rz2k> because I've moved it from spamfolder :p
<Turl> :)
<Turl> is that guy in here? don't recall seeing his name
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<rz2k> dont know, ask him in comments to patch
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