<L84Supper>
" in the U.S., Samsung had to throw away its own Exynos 4412 (quad-core ARM Cortex-A9 and ARM Mali 400MP graphics engine) application processor and install Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 system-on-chip. Apparently, it was impossible to install a specific 4G/LTE baseband chip into the Galaxy S III for the U.S."
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<hno>
L84Supper, so get an european one.
<hno>
But ugh.. why do they call that Galaxy III.
<hno>
s/III/S III/
<ibot>
hno meant: But ugh.. why do they call that Galaxy S III.
<hno>
Night
<L84Supper>
g'nite
<ManoftheSea>
Please give me more than 768 vertical pixels.
<ManoftheSea>
My 1366 x 768 constantly has apps that fall off the bottom.
<lundman>
nothing less than 1080p is acceptable! :)
<ManoftheSea>
high five.
<L84Supper>
I recall battling with 800 x 600 arm11 tablets a few years ago
<hno>
I just connected 5V out from my UART module to the center pin of the power jack.
<hno>
screen /dev/ttyUSB0 115200
<hno>
5v directly from th usb cale also works
<Turl||>
woot got kernel output :D
<Turl||>
and input :)
<Turl||>
the ir remote doesn't seem to work
<Turl||>
meh no batteries
<hno>
batteries helps
<Turl||>
yeah, don't have two spare AAA's though
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* Turl||
steals batteries from tv remote
<rm>
'screen' can do that? O.o
<rm>
I used minicom
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* Turl||
needs a crash course to change language to english
<hno>
Did it by trial & error.
<Turl||>
found entwork options & others but no lang
<hno>
hi HeHoPMaJIeH
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<Turl||>
where's the mele ics upgrde page? the rt one seems to have been moved/deleted
<mnemoc>
lundman has a mirror of the images
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<mnemoc>
hno: `./pio print < PIO` on master
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<mnemoc>
hno: not sure if adding a command to set particular parts (mul/data) or something that applies edited human-friendly entries
<NZBBoSS>
hi guys, anyone here have the mele A2000 and have the debug board? - do you know where i can get the drivers for this (running dindows 7 - 64bit)
<NZBBoSS>
windows*
<mnemoc>
NZBBoSS: depends on the chip on your ttl/usb adapter
<mnemoc>
NZBBoSS: in the civilized world you don't need drivers. no idea about windows
<NZBBoSS>
bought it from tom cubie
<mnemoc>
NZBBoSS: depends on the chip on your ttl/usb adapter
<Turl||>
Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2303 Serial Port <- that's what tom sent me
<mnemoc>
and it's not supported by that crap OS by default?
<mnemoc>
PL2303 is probably the most common uart/usb in the world
<Turl||>
the prolific *parallel* thingy I bought the other day worked on windows after it found drivers on the windows update thing
<NZBBoSS>
nah shameful really!
<NZBBoSS>
Turl||, cheers mate worked a treet!
<NZBBoSS>
is there a way to connect to the mele with ADB ? using the debgi board~?
<sspiff>
programmed I/O
<sspiff>
sorry wrong window
<mnemoc>
NZBBoSS: inside the mele a1k/a2k there is a 5pin header behind the rj45 connector, that's the OTG
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<mnemoc>
the 3 left-most pins go to black, green and white wires of a usb adapter
<Turl||>
mnemoc: got the cable going out of the mele box using that circly thing on the back
<NZBBoSS>
ok cool, ill pull apart a usb cable ;)
<NZBBoSS>
or can the debug board be used by chnaging the pins around?
<mnemoc>
there is nothing in common between the usb otg header and the uart header
<NZBBoSS>
mnemoc, left pins.... if looking from the front... or the back of the unit?
<mnemoc>
NZBBoSS: left having the header between you and the connectors
* Turl||
needs a full SD card >:
<Turl||>
mnemoc: is 8G enough?
<NZBBoSS>
sweet! usb works ;)
<NZBBoSS>
cheers fella!
<mnemoc>
NZBBoSS: :)
<mnemoc>
Turl||: sure, plenty
<Turl||>
mnemoc: my 1T usb HDD works okay on the mele to play videos
<mnemoc>
Wh?
<Turl||>
it didn't seem to like the audio track on a mkv though :(
<mnemoc>
make an image with better codecs ;-)
<Turl||>
I'll try with ics
<Turl||>
once I get an sd card :P
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<hno>
mnemoc, will look at the tool later tonight.
<mnemoc>
hno: also added the helper to set the values in the buffer regardless where that info comes from
<mnemoc>
obviusly, still unused
<Turl||>
mnemoc: what does this pio tool do?
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<mnemoc>
Turl||: currently? pretty-prints a dump of the PIO registry
<Turl||>
mnemoc: and what's the PIO registry? :)
<mnemoc>
the part of the SoC where the state of the pins live
<rz2k>
hno: I've just didnt touch tablet at all to ensure that there is no stress on bga balls where my problem was
<hno>
mnemoc, I assume that one have some active repeater electronics?
<rz2k>
from 3-5 tries I've flashed it successfully
<rz2k>
main problem with livesuit that if it fails and tablet goes stuck in FEL mode you need to short nand's data bus.
<mnemoc>
hno: not 100% sure
<hno>
rz2k, why?
<hno>
doesn't full format help?
<rz2k>
nope, when dram error occures eFex locks up and when you start tablet next time it goes stright to the efex, which is usually called by livesuit. this situation causes livesuit to lockup itself
<rz2k>
if you short out data bus eFex doesnt start and livesuit starts it like it usually do
<rz2k>
(of course you need to remove short when you see "mandatory format" message, after you press yes livesuit starts flashing)
<rz2k>
this workaround is from F20 ages and used by ebook reader guys
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<mnemoc>
rz2k: do you have an F20 device?
<rz2k>
nope, I've googled it up when I was stuck with livesuit locking up after I connect my "bricked" ly-f1
<rz2k>
by bricked I mean previous flashing wasnt completed successfully
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<traeak>
heh, don't use term "brick"
<traeak>
terminology is pretty important
<traeak>
i bricked a wrt54g before. unbricking involved scraping the PCB and shorting 2 traces
<traeak>
swapping an sd card incomparison...
<mnemoc>
all hail the unbrickable A10 devices :p
<RaYmAn>
traeak: soft brick ;)
<traeak>
RaYmAn: sucks to have to destabilize a chip to force it into a mode where it can be "unbricked", at least someone else did all the research so i just had to follow a stupid guide
<RaYmAn>
definitely
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<hno>
traeak, how is that different from rz2k brick mode? (except that his was really a brick)
<Turl||>
mnemoc: ended up ordering a 2m usb cable locally for about the same money :)
<mnemoc>
shielded? :)
<mnemoc>
i suppose the difference between a soft and a hard brick would be that the later requires soldering
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<Turl||>
a 'brick' is unfixable
<Turl||>
how do you know if ics finished flashing?
<mnemoc>
phoenixcard? the led will stop blicking
<Turl||>
I dd'd the lundman image
<Turl||>
did some stuff looking @ uart
<mnemoc>
yes, that's an image of phoenixcard's resulting card
<Turl||>
haha the ics bootanimation is cooler
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<Turl||>
heh it has an assistant to install the bloatware and lets you opt out
<hno>
Turl||, a brick is unfixable without extraordinary actions normally not done in field.
<hno>
and rz2k was really a brick, needing both a reflow of the CPU and shorting of the NAND data bus.
<Turl||>
ok, sdcard unphoenix'd
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<Tsvetan>
hi'
<hno>
hi hi
<hno>
congratulations to the successful test
<Tsvetan>
:) drinked beers with dimitar and our developers
<Tsvetan>
hno: thanks! here were too many white spots with this design and now I can take breath that everthing is OK
<Tsvetan>
tomorrow we will try to config the vga
<hno>
some tweaking remaining for vga.
<Tsvetan>
the keyboard and mouse are supported under android image and work too
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<Tsvetan>
yes the VGA monitor can't sync at 800x480 :)
<Tsvetan>
we have to run it in 1024x768 or 640x480
<hno>
Keyboard & mouse should work assuming you used USB. There is also PS/2 controllers, but not sure anyone wants to use them today.
<Tsvetan>
wifi also is recognized
<hno>
Hm. maybe the PS/2 is not in A13, don't remember.
<hno>
good.
<Tsvetan>
a13 have no ps2
<hno>
no one will miss them.
<Tsvetan>
we will polish and prepare the hardware for production run before we leave for our summer vacation
<Tsvetan>
and when we get back will continue with A10-OLinuXino development
<Tsvetan>
:)
<hno>
Better hurry. There is a bit of competition on that one.
<Tsvetan>
that's ok
<Tsvetan>
even now there are olanty of a10 boards aound isn't it :)
<Tsvetan>
plenty
<Tsvetan>
aaah I'm drunk
<Tsvetan>
i can't type
<rm>
hno, I use an USB-to-PS/2 dongle with my Mele A2000
<hno>
Tsvetan, there is plenty of special purpose A10 boards yes. But only one competing with the A10-OLinuXino
<rm>
because I have a good AT keyboard (on an AT to PS/2 converter), it's from the past millenium
<Tsvetan>
hno ?
<hno>
HDMI, USB x 3, wifi, 1GB RAM, all the rest on expansion headers.
<Turl>
I can +1 that being the UART header, works perfectly over here :)
<tzafrir_laptop>
That's the one
<tzafrir_laptop>
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<tzafrir_laptop>
Either leg 1 or 4 is connecteg to gnd (the other is in the air). Legs 2 and 3 are connected to rx and tx (tried both combinations)
<Turl>
plug your usb device to pc and launch screen or minicom
<Turl>
then grab one of the middle pins and try on rx
<Turl>
if you don't see garbage then that's tx
<Turl>
if you see garbage it's rx
<Turl>
now when you have both tx and rx figured out plug one of the sides to gnd, if the garbage becomes text then that was gnd, otherwise it's the other side
<tzafrir_laptop>
username / password for console login
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<hno>
mnemoc, added a bit more functionality to pio. Still missing code to dump/configure the interrupts & sdram parts (not port stuctured)
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<hno>
mnemoc & tzafrir_laptop GND MUST be connected. It's not about safety, simple electrics. gnd is the return circuit for the electrons. If GND is not connected then the electrons will find some other return circuit and results may be quite unexpected (including possibly some magic blue smoke escaping from either part)
<tzafrir_laptop>
hno, it worked with only the tx wire connected
<tzafrir_laptop>
(that said, I did not count on it and did connect gnd)
<tzafrir_laptop>
I figure there may be other places for grounding. I'm not sure what it means to have the ground leg in the air
<hno>
tzafrir_laptop, you were lucky. Most only get garbage in such setups.
<hno>
tzafrir_laptop, if there is no common ground then the data lead may get basically any voltage within +/- your mains voltage.
<hno>
in extreme cases.
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<hno>
usually reasonable levels however.
<Turl||>
mnemoc: mele has no 3.5mm audio jack? :(
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<hno>
Turl||, correct. There is very few uses of that given that you nearly always connect a mele type device to something that have an audio jack.
<hno>
i.e. TV and/or amplifier.
<Turl||>
hno: my 2.1 speakers have 3.5mm jack
<Turl||>
my mele likes to have a randomized MAC address on every boot too
<mnemoc>
hno: great! thanks for turning `pio` into something useful :) cmd_set_pin is also missing <default> support, which translate to -1 meaning, don't touch in .fex lingo
<mnemoc>
Turl||: there are 3.5 to RCA cables
<mnemoc>
Turl||: for the MAC edit the dynamic.MAC value in script.bin
<Turl||>
mnemoc: yeah but I'd need yet another cable :)
<mnemoc>
Turl||: or new rca speakers :)
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<hno>
mnemoc, fixed, plus some other bugfixes.
<mnemoc>
hno: about the irq and dram info, do we need something more than print?
<hno>
printing is a good start.
<tzafrir_laptop>
In the Debian image, eth0 should be "allow-hotplug" rather than "auto"
<hno>
unlikely any of that will be needed via fel. But might need to diagnose PIO settings in other contexts.
<tzafrir_laptop>
That way its startup will not stall the system startup
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