mnemoc changed the topic of #arm-netbook to: EOMA: Embedded Open Modular Architecture - Don't ask to ask. Just ask! - http://elinux.org/Embedded_Open_Modular_Architecture/EOMA-68 - ML arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk - Logs http://ibot.rikers.org/%23arm-netbook or http://irclog.whitequark.org/arm-netbook/ - http://rhombus-tech.net/
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<ManoftheSea> hno, I forgot what I was gonna ask, now.
<ManoftheSea> lkcl: Nice car blog!
<ManoftheSea> hno: it was probably about the passthrough.
<ManoftheSea> is phil in the chat?
<lundman> collins? I dont think so
<RITRedbeard> owned
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<ManoftheSea> hands.
<ManoftheSea> who's owned?
<RITRedbeard> lundman looking for phil collins
<ManoftheSea> who's phil collins? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Collins
<RITRedbeard> or you looking for phil collins
<ManoftheSea> I'm looking for Phil Hands.
<ManoftheSea> To get (regain) access to the EOMA repo.
<ManoftheSea> And I'm going to bed right now.
<ManoftheSea> Midnight here.
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<libv> crap. even with an max232 i get nothing but garbage on serial.
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<specing> libv: where?
<libv> mele -> max232 -> pl2032 -> usb
<specing> 0.o you have the same setup as me
<specing> is it 2032 or 2303?
<libv> still the same issue i had last week
<libv> oh, 2303
<specing> Did you supply 5V to the max232 board?
<libv> i have just ordered a ttl uart -> usb, and another rs232 -> usb from ebay
<libv> it's supposed to be 3v
<CIA-122> rhombus-tech: Tae-Han master * r6b44f34282e4 /allwinner_a10/orders/bolverk.mdwn:
<specing> libv: max232 is 5V
<specing> atleast if what you have is a MAX232
* specing checks the datasheet
<specing> "Operate from Single +5V Power Supply
<libv> max3232ese+
<specing> aha
<libv> should be able to work off of 3V too according to its datasheet
<specing> do you get 3v3 on the tx rail on the mele?
<libv> i did last week, taking the multimeter to it again
<specing> then use my spamming program and send 0 to it, the rail should read 0 - 0.3V
<specing> *from it
<libv> voltages are all correct, all are ~3.2V above gnd at this point
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<libv> i just spent another 15EUR on ebay, will give things another chance when those bits arrive
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<specing> -.-
<specing> libv: did you try sending 0 from mele?
<specing> and measuring?
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<libv> specing: i am seeing some form of characters fly past when things are correctly wired up, and they definitely are plentiful when booting
<libv> and when i type stuff, things happen too
<libv> it's just garbage characters
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<libv> but no, i haven't tried it, and tbh, i would rather do something more productive like reducing a 56MB mali memory dump to find out what i am missing in my parsed command stream for a q3a frame
<libv> next week i will give it another go
<libv> when the new bits have arrived
<specing> ok
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<Triffid_Hunter> libv: those pl2303s are crap, get an ftdi
<libv> Triffid_Hunter: it worked reliably for a year and a half, and still happily works on my n9
<CIA-122> rhombus-tech: Dmitry master * rd7649873390a /allwinner_a10/orders/singularity.mdwn:
<specing> Triffid_Hunter: pl2303 has worked for me for the past 5 years
<specing> they sure cant go over ~115200 but they work
<specing> Im going to build myself a FT232H (serial+JTAG+...) board when I start doing os-less ARM dev
<RaYmAn> the pl2303/cp2303 chips are awesome for what they provide - cheap as hell, works for regular 115.2k serial. It's nice not having to care that much if you accidentally fry the ttl-USB chip ;)
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<mnemoc> hno: please page me when you have a minute to talk about memory info. It's too much new knowledge for me :( .... in my mele the fixup is currently receiving a meminfo with zero banks, and an atag of size 0x20000000 at 0x40000000. their hack shrinks at to 0x1c000000
<mnemoc> somehow I was expecting the meminfo to come prepopulated
<mnemoc> and have no clue how the kernel is supposed to know to isolate those 64M from the first bank when going hack-less
<mnemoc> hno: should I remove the 64M from the first ATAG_MEM or just assume magic(tm) will solve it?
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<RaYmAn> so, anyone considered the ouya as a replacement mele type thing? Though, not sure exactly how hackable it is
<mnemoc> it's tegra... isn't it? :(
<RaYmAn> yeah
<RaYmAn> linux support is still far better than a10 ;)
<RaYmAn> not open source graphics stuff though
<mnemoc> :)
<mnemoc> considering the nightmare it was for you to get a partially working adam/ics *with* notion ink support I wouldn't consider any tegra device hack friendly
<mnemoc> of course they have the advantage of a larger head-desking^Whacker community and sexier devices
<RaYmAn> tbh, the biggest issue with adam was just how fucked up nvidias 2.6.32 framework was
<RaYmAn> from what I've heard from other devices developers, most simply dumped 2.6.32 and reimplemented eveyrthing from scratch for 2.6.36
<RaYmAn> given we couldn't do that, it was a huuuge undertaking :P
<RaYmAn> now that we have 2.6.39 and 3.1 kernels, it's *much* easier. They actually use standard interfaces now :P
<mnemoc> :D
* mnemoc wants JB/3.1 on his adam!
<RaYmAn> heh
<RaYmAn> it's easy
<RaYmAn> we're almost done with JB on TF201
<mnemoc> adam's cm9/b5 is unsuably slow (unless you are playing 3d games, which ain't my business)
<RaYmAn> weird
<RaYmAn> Tbh, I've mostly been involved in kernel side
<RaYmAn> it's not one of the versions where the PMU spams IRQ's sufficiently to slow down system, is it? :P
<mnemoc> haven't researched... I only use it to read ebooks... but any task involving nand access puts it on it's knies
<mnemoc> all processes halt
<RaYmAn> weird, afaik there should be no changes to nand in any recent versions
<RaYmAn> but anyways, porting to 3.1 is fairly trivial
<mnemoc> go go go :)
<RaYmAn> We tried to keep the mods to non-board files as low as possible, so you can mostly just copy board-adam* across, edit makefiles and get boot
<RaYmAn> then switch out android gralloc/hwcomposer with updates ones
<mnemoc> great! then let others take care of the transformer and bless the zombie adam community with a JB/3.1 :)
<RaYmAn> lol
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<RaYmAn> It's more fun to work on TFP :P
<mnemoc> :(
<RaYmAn> With it's multiple viewing angles and stuff
<RaYmAn> :P
<mnemoc> :)
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<mnemoc> it's sad how NI wasted their momentum
<mnemoc> and it's community
<RaYmAn> yeah
<RaYmAn> They are still alive though
<RaYmAn> lol
<mnemoc> doing what?
<mnemoc> or just... alive?
<RaYmAn> working on adam2 :P
<mnemoc> their adam2 blog is even more full of BS than their original blog :< .... and also stalled
<RaYmAn> yeah, they stopped posting for a bit
<RaYmAn> but they are still working on it.
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<RaYmAn> they are keeping things "secret" now, so they can actually show up with a working product, lol
<mnemoc> :D
<RaYmAn> I think they've learnt from their mistakes ;)
<RaYmAn> More stuff open source from day1 and such, lol
<mnemoc> yeah, very
<lundman> :)
<lundman> cd
<RaYmAn> mnemoc: tbh, that ouya is almost same price as mele and quadcore :P hehe. But yeah, I dunno how open it actually is
<mnemoc> RaYmAn: afaik the ouya still isn't anything. the mele is here ;-)
<rm> I read "Tegra" and close the browser tab
<rm> so I don't even know, e.g. does it even have SATA?
<rm> Ethernet?
<rm> how much RAM, etc
<RaYmAn> sata is unlikely
<RaYmAn> ram etc is specified on site.
<rm> iow, Mele is still massively more attractive
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<rm> the only thing I see going for Ouya, is supposedly a more powerful GPU
<RaYmAn> and a much more powerful cpu? :)
<RaYmAn> but yeah
<RaYmAn> iirc, it's 1gb ram, 8gb flash, they are looking at adding ethernet
<rm> But does it run GNU/Linux? (c) :)
<mnemoc> but as there is no ouya yet, we have time to see what other A9 alternatives come out
<RaYmAn> rm: that's the question. There are relatively decent X11/OpenGL ES drivers available, even in hardfp versions, but it depends on how open it is
<RaYmAn> mnemoc: true
<RaYmAn> Cortex A15 stuff next year :]
<mnemoc> yeah
<mnemoc> no rush in trashing more money :p
<RaYmAn> indeed
<RaYmAn> I'm kind of battling FOMO ;)
<RaYmAn> (fear of missing out)
<mnemoc> :)
<rm> hmmmm
<rm> so it doesn't even have ethernet yet
<RaYmAn> but otoh, I already have one tegra3 device with another on the way, so I really shouldn't buy anymore stuff liek that, lol
<RaYmAn> It's depressing to realize I have three tegra2 devices, two tegra3 devices, and various others :/
<lundman> might consider that odroid-x.. might work out better than a10
<rm> define work out and define better :p
<lundman> well, work out better for me I suppose. :)
<lundman> mele does not do any audio, so I cant use it for mediaplayer
<mnemoc> it does for me...
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<rm> hmmm, never tried audio on Mele yet
<lundman> can do stereo to tv, but plug it into amp and it stutters bad
<lundman> and cant go more than stereo
<rm> RCA?
<lundman> the spif doesnt turn on
<lundman> not tried rca, want > 2 ch
<mnemoc> I have one mele a1000 taken apart on my desk, but another with Tom's ICS on the living room connected to the tv playing music videos almost all day...
<mnemoc> ok, I use hdmi
<lundman> great, play a movie with good sound
<lundman> 5.1 or something
<rm> btw, is that all on Android?
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<lundman> all android
<lundman> and I dont mean play a movie with 5.1, and listen on a stereo tv. connected to any avr
<rm> I am surprised it would have problems on Android
<rm> but for my uses I'll be happy enough if I get 2ch over RCA (in Debian)
<mnemoc> they seem to have removed fancy sound decoders from the official image because of licensing problems
<mnemoc> but that doesn't mean "it doesn't do sound"
<hackandfab> hello all, I'm new here, do you have a FAQ?
<lundman> decoding means going to 2ch
<lundman> it should do passthrough, both HDMI and spdif
<lundman> neither works
<rm> hackandfab, check out http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/
<rm> depends on what you have and/or want to accomplish
<hackandfab> @rm, ok thx, I'm reading it (I want to run desktop ubuntu 12.04 on a mele2000)
<mnemoc> cnxsoft has a very simple script for that
<rm> there's a number of various Ubuntu images and scripts to create them...
<hackandfab> thx to all, I've reading for some hours...
<mnemoc> aaaarg... I finally find a 2.5 disk to test the sata on my mele and it ends up been ntfs :<
<lundman> akes 10s to change?
<mnemoc> Timing buffered disk reads: 32 MB in 3.01 seconds = 10.63 MB/sec
<mnemoc> Timing cached reads: 78 MB in 2.01 seconds = 38.86 MB/sec
<Triffid_Hunter> that's pretty slow :/
<mnemoc> while my class 10 sd card is giving:
<mnemoc> Timing buffered disk reads: 14 MB in 2.78 seconds = 5.03 MB/sec
<mnemoc> yes
<Triffid_Hunter> mnemoc: is that using mele's image or the ubuntu image or something else?
<mnemoc> ubuntu+linux 3.4.4
<Triffid_Hunter> damn.. even recent kernels still slow, that's unfun :/
<mnemoc> and it's a pretty old disk... will need to compare with 3.0.36
<Triffid_Hunter> I'm looking forward to when working homebrew kernels aren't so hairy
<mnemoc> but ondemand has my cpu running at 60MHz :p
<mnemoc> switching to performance
<mnemoc> much better :)
<mnemoc> Timing buffered disk reads: 14 MB in 0.90 seconds = 15.62 MB/sec <--- sd card
<mnemoc> Timing buffered disk reads: 182 MB in 3.03 seconds = 60.15 MB/sec <--- crappy 2.5 sata disk
<Triffid_Hunter> 60 is decent, don't think the disk in my laptop is that quick
<mnemoc> Timing cached reads: 620 MB in 2.00 seconds = 309.74 MB/sec
<RaYmAn> what kind of cpu usage are you getting?
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<mnemoc> RaYmAn: htop claimed it went from 2% to 58% during `hdparm -tv /dev/sda1`
<mnemoc> but it frozen sightly
<RaYmAn> It's not much use if it uses 60% of the cpu during heavy IO, lol
<mnemoc> Timing cached reads: 628 MB in 2.00 seconds = 313.56 MB/sec spiked under 40%
* mnemoc tries to remember the name of a less fancy tool to monitor cpu usage
<mnemoc> dstat
<mnemoc> better. http://dpaste.com/769787/ first spike was cached (319.22 MB/sec), second buffered (65.29 MB/sec)
<mnemoc> traeak: next time you check hdparm in your mele, please test using performance governor
<lundman> I'd be interested in hearing from anyone who got passthrough to work
<mnemoc> lundman: try the mailing list
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<Shivan> u-boot can boot from sata?
<lundman> no
<lundman> unless someone added it
<mnemoc> we have two main uboot branched. one maintained by hno which is (still) mmc only, and another unmaintained which is nand-only
<mnemoc> but after loading the uImage and script.bin from one of those you can root=/dev/sda<n>
<Shivan> mmm i wonder if it can be intercepted to make a dual boot system whiout having to plug in/out the sd
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<lundman> I put nand into mmc one, just for fun
<lundman> oh yeah, to boot android from sd
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<Shivan> As today, hardware gles2 is working on A10?
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<hno> mnemoc, do we have the PIO guide for A13?
<mnemoc> hno: the only doc about the a13 we have is the 60p micro datasheet :< ... and code
<mnemoc> the SDK didn't have any documentation
<mnemoc> well... the sdk didn't even have mach-sun5i code
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<mnemoc> that pdf has the pin function selectors
<mnemoc> but it's incomplete, the sample script.fex files reference highter than 3 function selectors
<rm> really?
<rm> because holding arms in midair to type feels so comfortable and natural
<Turl> hahaha
<Turl> you'd probably use a bluetooth keyboard with that
<mnemoc> they didn't receive the memo about how awful is to type over glass
<mnemoc> but take android out and add a real keyboard/mouse, nice
<mnemoc> a 24" EOMA68 all-in-one...ish would be nice :)
<rm> I am not sure touch screen is an useful input device to have on a desktop monitor
<rm> and if we take that it isn't, then there's not much difference between this, and a random monitor, with any of the MK802-alikes popped in
<Shivan> Im tired of seeing Android on every non-mobile arm thing...
<Shivan> and the worst part is... its gona get worse with W8
<Shivan> They just ship those things with a Linux distro, not android
<mnemoc> android sells, linux doesn't :<
<hno> mnemoc, the "MultiX" headers have no direct relation to the PIO selector numbers. It just lists up to 4 functions available on the pin.
<Shivan> Thats because someone trought it was a good idea not to integrate Android apps intro linux
<mnemoc> hno: ah, ok, I assumed they were 1:1
<mnemoc> Shivan: dalvik is open source... and they have done that on commercial platforms... unfortunatelly I haven't see the same for x11 yet
<Shivan> yeah but it gets me that something like Wine even exist, and there is not a full working dalvik subsystem for linux
<Shivan> that and the lack of interest of the companys that just put Android on everything...
<hno> mnemoc, no, but 0 = input 1 = output, 2..7 different functions.
<hno> but I would suspect there to be a lot similarity with A10. It's tje same design just trimmed down a bit.
<hno> s/tje/the/
<ibot> hno meant: but I would suspect there to be a lot similarity with A10. It's the same design just trimmed down a bit.
<L84Supper> according to IHS the Tegra 3 = $21 and the omap4430 =$13.50
<traeak> tegra3 is quad, the 4430 ?
<traeak> rm: touchscreen on desktop monitor would be kind of silly considering the screen is at arm's length
<L84Supper> OMAP™ 4 Platform : OMAP4430/OMAP4460
<traeak> 199 for nexus then ?
<L84Supper> when TI released the 4430 and the pandaboard they said in 6 months to 1 year that parts would be available through distis and not direct
<traeak> yuk powervr
<L84Supper> it's 1+ years and still no parts available through distis
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<Turl> rm x86 AIOs have touchscreens
<Turl> on my experience they resemble resistive screens more, and are rather crap to use
<Turl> I'm unsure on what's the actual touch technology in use
<traeak> doesn't it bother the crap out of you when people touch your screen?
<traeak> fingerprints, etc on workstation screen is really really bad
<Turl> I don't notice that kind of stuff
<Turl> the only time I notice it is when I clean my screen while the PC is on
<rm> I suppose with touch screens it will be natural that they're all in fingerprints
<hno> traeak, you need automatic winshield wipers on the screen.
<rm> so you won't notice
<Turl> then I'm like 'holy crap it was dirty, the screen looks like a new 4K monitor now'
<rm> with pristine non-touchscreens, of course a single fingerprint of an annoying person who just came by, stands out...
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<Turl> rm I use a non-touchscreen 16" laptop
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<L84Supper> anyone hear if the secure boot got cracked yet for the TI omap44xx? or maybe they just worked around it
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<Shivan> what is the drm.h file that is requiered to compile mali driver? i dont remember part of what it is... wrhombus wiki says only ump includes are needed but the driver also ask for several drm*.h files in usr/include
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<mnemoc> Shivan: afaik it's from mali's DDK, which is NDA'ed
<Shivan> But i was able to compile them with another distro before wiping the sd... strange...
<hno> drm/drm.h is a standard kernel include file.
<hno> should be installed by default if you have C/C++ development support installed (usually kernel-headers or similar package).
<hno> And also found in the kernel includes.
* mnemoc scratches his head.... .oO(which was the header from the DDK hipboi had to share?)o
<hno> UMP?
<mnemoc> possible... but I had the idea it was something *dr[mi]*
<mnemoc> hno: did you see my question about meminfo this morning?
<hno> no
<hno> can you repeat it?
<mnemoc> basically how do we deal with the 64M removed by fixup from bank 0
<mnemoc> should I mangle the first ATAG_MEM, or trust "magic" will happen without intervention
<hno> Peek at other MALI implementations how they reserve the shared memory?
<mnemoc> ok
<mnemoc> wasn't sure the owner of those 64M
<mnemoc> and another question, do you know if their bootloader passes ATAG_MEM? if they don't it would be a single way to have a fallback
<mnemoc> simple*
<mnemoc> will probably need to boot a debugging kernel from nand and see..
<hno> have not looked at what the allwinner boot loader passes to a kernel. The mele chainloads u-boot.
<mnemoc> in which case I will receive dummy ATAG_MEM, right?
<mnemoc> and so, no fallback possible :<
<mnemoc> meh
<hno> chainloded u-boot gives a dummy memory information atag yes.
<hno> but easily fixed to build proper memory info.
<mnemoc> CONFIG_SUNXI_IGNORE_ATAG_MEM default n ?
<hno> Proposed config for disabling the override?
<mnemoc> yes
<mnemoc> if someone wants to use allwinner's broken bootloader can enable that...
<hno> Or just upload a fixed u-boot next to the kernel.
<mnemoc> meaning you'll fix the nand branch? :)
<hno> me or someone with a 1G system.
<hno> regarding MALI DDK, the A10 SDK MALI binary do include a bunch of headers: http://fpaste.org/nIE2/
<hno> Mix of SGI Open Source licensed files and the more important ones "This confidential and proprietary software may be used only as authorised by a licensing agreement from ARM Limited"
<hno> No idea what that licensing agreement says
<mnemoc> we received the binaries from allwinner...
<mnemoc> hopefully one day linaro will convise ARM of stopping the BS
<mnemoc> convince*
<mnemoc> still need to research about how others deal with those 64M
<hno> A normal reservation should work fine I think, like done for VE etc.
<mnemoc> much better than
<mnemoc> then*
<mnemoc> http://www.myefox.com/android-mk802-mini-pc-android4-0-minipc-mk802-p-329269 .... it's starting to reach tempting levels
<hno> also iirc the address is hardcoded in the MALI driver.
<mnemoc> I was wondering about A10 systems with less than 512
<hno> if I had an HDMI display...
<hno> have not seen any with 256M.
<hno> probably because ~128 IS AVAILABLE THEN.
* hno releases caps-lock
<xxiao> anybody is able to replace u-boot on minipc
<specing> mnemoc: haha, unit price rises the more units you buy ;P
<mnemoc> specing: haha... missed that detail
<mnemoc> hno: a good thing of having mali in-tree is that we will be able to release those 64M when mali is not enabled ;-)
<hno> mnemoc, and related it means anyone who disables mali for building out of tree gets seriously burnt
<mnemoc> hno: meh
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<rm> mnemoc, $60.99-$5 on Aliexpress today
* mnemoc wants a mele with 1GB :(
<hno> tempting.. if we knew UART0 was accessible without too much effort without the need for sd breakout.
* hno is still dependent on SD.
<mnemoc> it has an uart directly next to the soc
<mnemoc> soldering required, but that isn't a problem for you
<mnemoc> hipboi_: please push mele for a 1GB model.... that could really be used as desktop
<DonkeyHotei> does he have sway with mele?
<mnemoc> he is a direct buyer...
<mnemoc> meaning he has access to sales people inside mele.cn
<DonkeyHotei> but how much power do they have over that?
<hno> mnemoc, yes it should be there, but I have not seen anyone confirming RX works.
<mnemoc> i bet it's just an incomplete script.bin
<hno> DonkeyHotei, none.
<DonkeyHotei> thought so
<hno> And I do doubt the next 1GB Mele "livingroom PC" will be A10 based.
<mnemoc> more than us
<DonkeyHotei> unless it's A15
<Shivan> probably the am dual core
<mnemoc> as in sun6i or cortex-a15?
<specing> hno: heh, scope
<DonkeyHotei> sun6i
<traeak> market's moving too fast, eh?
<Shivan> i dont think there is a chance for a mali t605 on next allwinner no?
<DonkeyHotei> traeak: always
<specing> Shivan: there is
<specing> Shivan: Im sure there will be on a quad-core model
<Shivan> im hope so... full OpenGL and OpenCL support its a dream
<Shivan> IF WORKS
<Shivan> i still cant make es2 to work for my mali400 -.-
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<rzk> cool, on low-power a10 throws kernel panic then reboots to boot1 for a picture of low-battery. i thought it will just hang hard till next manual boot.
<rzk> also, hv2605 appears to be broken, its a capacitive buttons driver, throws infinite amount of "incomplete xfer (0x28)" to log.
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<mnemoc> patches VERY welcomed :)
<mnemoc> but a ticket is a good first step
<hno> rzk, you have matching hardware for hv2605?
<hno> mnemoc, actually, I retract that. Platform driver registration and memory reservation need to go hand in hand, separate from the MALI driver itself.
<mnemoc> hno: please rephrase
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<mnemoc> hno: I fail to understand that sentence :<
<hno> mnemoc, see arch/arm/mach-sun4i/devices.c
<mnemoc> the drm device?
<rzk> seems so, hv2605 probe detects it. right after probe done xfer stuff happens. I'll check with android init.rc. I've loaded other drivers for keyboards/keypads (sun4i-ts, sun4i-keyboard, sun4i-keypad) as well and tested for input at all /dev/input/eventX, only ft5x_ts sends data, but I think its just junk data because capacitive panels are close to each other.
<mnemoc> hno: that was added by us to allow the x11 driver to work
<hno> Hm... need to double check then.
<mnemoc> my guts tell me it's a bad idea to try to keep mali decoupled from the kernel tree if we want proper support... but...
<mnemoc> android doesn't need the drm device
<mnemoc> only x11
<mnemoc> but my first priority currently is to finish cleaning up plat-sunxi's sysconfig in 3.4
<mnemoc> sys_config*
<hno> There really should be a platform_device detailing the memory reservation to the MALI driver. But there isn't.
<hno> It's not our job to fix the MALI driver. Only minimally working around it.
<mnemoc> sure, only the hooking
<mnemoc> no intention in messing inside the driver beside the "platform.c" file
<mnemoc> drivers/gpu/mali/mali/platform/mali400-pmu/mali_platform.c
<mnemoc> which smells pretty incomplete anyway
<rzk> did you know that FES has a nice ASCII logo inside? :3
<mnemoc> uh
<rzk> says "Efex" and some chinese name
<mnemoc> the sata disk I connected to the mele sounds like a cricket...
<traeak> what kind of speeds you getting ?
<hno> Right, that mali_platform is mostly a dummy, only saved by pm/.. "by accident" doing the magics needed to shut down MALI on suspend by shutting down all clocks leaving MALI hanging in mid air.
<traeak> mnemoc: run hdparm? :-p
<hno> rzk, which FES? The main (bigger) one?
<mnemoc> traeak: at 1GHz, ~60MB/s ... and sightly over ~300MB/s cached
<mnemoc> at 60MHz around 18MB/s
<traeak> mnemoc: what's the chance i somehow "broke" my mele ?
<traeak> 60mhz? is there some setting i'm missing?
<traeak> ahhhh
<mnemoc> traeak: ondemand governator ;-)
<mnemoc> traeak: test using "performance"
<traeak> yeah crap..lets try to figure out how to chnage that again :-p
<mnemoc> $ find /sys | grep gover
<mnemoc> /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor
<mnemoc> /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_governors
<mnemoc> :)
<traeak> nah
<traeak> sudo cpufreq-set -g performance
* hno perfers /sys
<hno> s/per/pre/
<traeak> i can't seem to remember all the stuff in /sys past a copule of levels
<traeak> mnemoc: stupid me, forgetting about the cpu clocking
<traeak> this drive is at ~47mb/s
<traeak> consistent with this drive that came wth the toshiba laptop....a total POS
<traeak> both the laptop and the drive
<rzk> hno: that FES that starts with LiveSuit flashing
<mnemoc> traeak: then sata is working "as expected" now?
<rzk> thats how I got that ASCII image, forgot to turn serial off when flashing.
<traeak> mnemoc: yeah....i guess the ondemand should probably jump the cpu clocking when the sata is active
<traeak> something the x86 guys never had to bother with
<mnemoc> but we aren't in the governator tweaking business...
<traeak> also considering any x86 processor i've played with has definitley less than 10 settings and generally less than 5
<specing> the A10 has like 30 settings
<traeak> nehalem i7 has 7 or 8, older atom has '2', c2q xeon has '2'
<specing> can those intels go below 200 MHz?
<specing> Mine cant go below 800MHz
<mnemoc> the A10 can go down to 30MHz... but only used on standby afaik
<specing> My A10 has been at 60MHz for over a day now and the BGA is still unexplainably hot
<traeak> seems to transition relatively smoothly
<traeak> since i'mlazy what's the transistor size on the a10 ?
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<mnemoc> wee... my gnexus got an update.... and failed :<
<Turl> mnemoc: 4.1 OTA? :o
<mnemoc> yes, JRN84D -> JRO03C
<mnemoc> but something it didn't like after rebooting
<mnemoc> it's pretty annoying they only show a dead robot
<mnemoc> and no reasons or a .zip to try manually
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<mnemoc> c'est la vie... rom manager time
* Turl installed it now
<Turl> mnemoc: I flashed with CWM, seems to be fine
<Turl> I had the proper radio too, and stock recovery
<mnemoc> I wanted OTA :'(
<Turl> that's the ota zip file :)
<mnemoc> it's so exciting to see the notification
<Turl> haha :P
<Turl> you can always flash an ancient release and do all the OTA updates
<mnemoc> :)
<Turl> FuuFU
<Turl> scumbag google doesn't support spanish on google now search thingy
<traeak> woah xda forums redo
<tallnerd1985> I love JB, so smooth
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<ManoftheSea> hullo.
<mnemoc> steev: ping
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<steev> pong
<mnemoc> steev: /q ?
<steev> sure, you can always just /q me
<mnemoc> :)
<steev> as long as you're a registered user!
<steev> actually, i turned off the requirement since i'm a gentoo dev and users with issues don't always register
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<mnemoc> :)
<Turl> kernel fail? :|
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<mnemoc> Turl: check your script.bin is not corrupted
<mnemoc> [ 0.060000] [<c0332280>] (usb_add_hcd+0x24/0x6bc) from [<c055f048>] (sw_hcd_init_controller.constprop.11+0x38c/0x468)
<mnemoc> ^--- that might be missing an string
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<mnemoc> or it's corrupt
<mnemoc> (not \0'ed)
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<mnemoc> Turl: if script.bin is not corrupt. can you reproduce it? how?
<Turl> mnemoc: boot JB :P
<RaYmAn> lol
<RaYmAn> Turl: we had a similar issue with ICS on tf201 kinda. Basically init.device.usb.rc setting wrong values that caused funky crashes
<Turl> but I'm using the same stuff on ICS :|
<Turl> and same tree :P
<Turl> I restored my ICS boot image and it didn't crash
<RaYmAn> same exact init.<dev>.usb.rc?
<mnemoc> Turl: ouch
<Turl> RaYmAn: ya
<mnemoc> 3.0?
<Turl> mnemoc: ya
<Turl> maybe it's a toolchain thing?
<mnemoc> nah. check usb_add_hcd+0x24
<RaYmAn> not using same kernel then? :P
<Turl> RaYmAn: same kernel *tree* :P
<Turl> both built inline
<RaYmAn> Turl: try prebuilt from ics?
<Turl> I tried boot.img from a nandroid
<Turl> and it 'boots' (android is crash galore tho, probably due to mismatching init)
<RaYmAn> yeah, just zImage. :P
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<Turl> RaYmAn: old zImage + new ramdisk appears to work
<Turl> but it's still crash galore :|
<RaYmAn> but diff crash? lol
<Turl> RaYmAn: yeah the kernel doesn't crash if I use the old one
<Turl> so it must be some toolchain thing :|
<Turl> RaYmAn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1088875/ <- android crashes, still as weird
<RaYmAn> is CM10 even in a functional state yet?
<Turl> yeah
<Turl> it's pretty much aosp :P
<mnemoc> 0xdeadbaad
<rzk> mp3 stream in smplayer + htop uses 100% cpu on A10 http://imgur.com/CJ5N6 :/
<traeak> no dsp acceleration?
<RaYmAn> Turl: missing/broken audio lib? that always cause fun issues
<Turl> I'm using the ICS one
<Turl> (sauce)
<rzk> traeak: smplayer doesnt know of one, for sure.
<RaYmAn> are you sure you are? :P
<RaYmAn> E/AudioFlinger( 79): int android::load_audio_interface(char const*, audio_hw_device_t**) wrong audio hw device version 0000
<RaYmAn> I/AudioFlinger( 79): loadHwModule() error -22 loading module primary
<RaYmAn> well, I guess you are
<RaYmAn> lol
<Turl> RaYmAn: E/JNIHelp ( 1285): Native registration unable to find class 'android/media/videoeditor/VideoEditorProfile', aborting
<RaYmAn> I was kind of ignoring that, didn't look important compartively
<Turl> mnemoc: btw, any news from hipboi re. the new mali libs?
<mnemoc> nothing
<mnemoc> rzk: get cedarx support into libva ;-)
<lundman> others also fighting audio
<traeak> another 7" tablet, this time 89usd with 1GB ram
<traeak> can't say much else abot it though
<hno> traeak, does not look like an A10 device.
<hno> Turl, why is new mali libs needed?
<traeak> hno: but at/near that price point
<hno> Don'
<hno> Don't really care about the price point when I don't know what CPU it is or if it's hackable.
<Turl> hno: hipboi mentioned better x11 support
<Turl> and it's always nice to have too
* hno would be happy for a setup that is reproducible and verified by at least 3 persons.
<Turl> jelly bean on A10 :)
<Turl> this is seriously smooth
<lundman> built kernel?
<Turl> hm?
<lundman> dont think JB is downloadable, so you built it?
<Turl> it is downloadable
<Turl> since like.. 2-3 days?
<Turl> (never mind the yellow instead of blue, there's boogz :P)
<lundman> url me, I put it on mirror
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<Turl> lundman: url what?
<lundman> you made mebelieve you run JB onyour A10, so whereis the image download :)
<Turl> it's on my computer? I built it :P
<lundman> oh for the lov
<Turl> it's half hacked on-device and has boogz
<Turl> once I clean up my stuff a little bit and fix the big 2 showstoppers I'll post all the source, as always :)
<ZaEarl> source is good
<ZaEarl> yellow highlights? is that the butter?
<Turl> ZaEarl: haha
<Turl> ZaEarl: nah, screenshotting is bad :P colors are swapped I suppose, it looks like ics on the screen
<ZaEarl> haha
<Turl> but it's smooth yep :)
<Turl> bbl
<ZaEarl> even inverted, it looks good.
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