<swills>
i don't have the hardware, so i can't test 2.1.0
<swills>
i shall try to work on getting someone to do that tho
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<swills>
but given the nature of the issue, unless the stack size was changed in 2.1.0, i am betting it is the same with 2.1.0
<centrx>
swills, Given the current bug report, there is no way for a developer to try reproducing it, and it might look like a minor bug, not affecting all installations
<centrx>
swills, These rare platforms like PowerPC FreeBSD require people who run on the platform to do a lot of the leg work in diagnosing the problem, because the developer does not have that platform to test on
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<swills>
centrx: yeah, understood
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<swills>
as far as reproducing, as i understand it, all that's needed is to try to use it on that platform, but yeah, i understand what you mean about folks on those platforms having to do the work
<swills>
i'll try to get the reporter to get me some more info and try 2.1.0
<centrx>
That's the spirit!
<swills>
actually, that backtrace on the list looks complete, although not particularly useful
<swills>
i wonder what else you would need? the ruby code that triggers it?
<centrx>
I don't see a backtrace at the link you gave
<centrx>
Also, if it really is just changing the stack size, he can prepare a patch
<swills>
i can add it to the bug report if you like
<centrx>
You should, add as much as you can that will help
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<mrgrieves>
hi, I just built and install ruby from source but i noticed I end up with a very basic deployment. If I try to install gems or run ruby install scripts I end up with something like "Could not load openssl Ruby library" which make me think I could have passed more options at configure time. Any suggestions on what options or additional libraries to install to workaround the ssl error?
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<apeiros>
mrgrieves: afaik ruby builds without openssl if it can't detect it at configure/build time
<r0bgleeson>
yeah, i believe so
<r0bgleeson>
ruby-install does a good job at solving that for you
<mrgrieves>
apeiros: thanks. To give you a bit of background, I'm trying to have a local non-root ruby install
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<chinychinchin>
figured it out - im usign mixins therefore making the method a part of the connection class - not sure if thats wise so i used att_accessors as advices somewhere
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<ljarvis>
chinychinchin: if you have any more questions, paste some code to gist.github.com it'll be a lot more helpful in answering you
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<corecode>
so i can't define a method on Numeric and use it?
<corecode>
:/
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<judofyr>
corecode: what do you mean?
<judofyr>
eval-in: class Numeric; def plus2; self + 2 end end; 5.plus2
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<judofyr>
>> class Numeric; def plus2; self + 2 end end; 5.plus2
<yorickpeterse>
Adding users with decent privileges is more complicated than making a fucking space rocket
<yorickpeterse>
I had to actually ask a Mac user to do it with Sequel pro because the CLI is just a total disaster
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<yorickpeterse>
also herp derp usernames being <= 16 characters
<yorickpeterse>
and passwords being something like <= 32 max
<yorickpeterse>
it's freaking 2014
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<apeiros>
yorickpeterse: at least it can have tablenames > 30 chars…
* apeiros
is an oracle sufferer, living in 1986
<apeiros>
or whenever 30 char identifier limitations last made sense
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<Squarepy>
the horror
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<yorickpeterse>
nice, after way too long I can finally change the SQL credentials used in apps to individual ones
<yorickpeterse>
instead of a single one with almost-root-access
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<mjc_>
yorickpeterse: mysql workbench isn't too terrible on any platform if you are looking for a gui
<mjc_>
since the CLI is indeed a disaster
<yorickpeterse>
I know
<yorickpeterse>
but it kept crashing every 5 minutes
<yorickpeterse>
plus it takes 2 hours or so to compile
<mjc_>
never once had mysql crash on me
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<mjc_>
workbench sure
<mjc_>
much better these days
<mjc_>
but 5.x was bad
<yorickpeterse>
I meant mysql workbench
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<mjc_>
ah
<mjc_>
yeah
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<sonne>
greetings!
<sonne>
do ruby 2.1 and 2.0 share the same abi version?
<sonne>
as it was 1.9.1 for almost all 1.9 releases, is it 2.0 for both of them?
<mrgrieves>
I'm building a hash by iterating over a number of variables and sometimes values are ending up with '/name1/name2/last_name'. What methods can I use to ensure that only 'last_name' is used as the value? #newbiequestion
<darix>
momomomomo: normaly you only care about the paths dont you?
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<darix>
and you can get those from rbconfig. rubygems has also an api to query for those.
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<momomomomo>
darix: I guess it depends on what you're doing
<momomomomo>
darix: If, like that link describes, there is a change in the C-level api feature support, you'd probably care a little bit about what version the ABI is
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<darix>
momomomomo: there are apis for that at C level
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<momomomomo>
darix: I'm not pretending to know about all of that stuff, just answering a high level question :p
<momomomomo>
I haven't touched C since my first cs class
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<|jemc|>
To folks using Ruby commercially: how are you interpreting license compatibility among gems?
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<|jemc|>
Are you operating under the assumption that using a gem in your application requires you to comply with the license of that gem?
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<|jemc|>
And that it would be legally impossible to use two gems that have conflicting license requirements?
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<Kero>
1) ask a lawyer, 2) of course you need to comply, but I'm not sure you mean what I mean, 3) many gems have a license that does not extend into code outside the gem, so I'm curious which conflict you found 4) ask a lawyer, really
<|jemc|>
(I understand that I'm not talking to a channel of lawyers, I'm just trying to get a feel for how safe people are playing this issue))
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<|jemc|>
In other words, I'm trying to have my thoughts gathered and some basic research done for when I do go speak to a lawyer
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<|jemc|>
But I appreciate your answer. Anyone else have thoughts or input on this?
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<r0bgleeson>
|jemc|: yeah, I think companies just don't even think about it
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<|jemc|>
it irks me that there doesn't seem to be an "official" legal precedent about the distinction between linking and modifying
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<|jemc|>
although some people talk about it like it's been resolved
<|jemc|>
also, I'm wondering whether using a gem is more like modifying or more like linking - it would seem to me to be more like modifying, due to how monkey-patchable ruby is
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<Kero>
deploying code on a server is certainly not the same as distributing code
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<eam>
it's really impossible to have this discussion without knowing which licenses you're worried about. For example AGPLv3 will have very specific concerns
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<eam>
many companies refuse to use AGPL code
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<eam>
|jemc|: re: linking/modifying, the license can specify nearly whatever terms it likes regarding use. the gpl linking clause is part of the terms
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<eam>
modifying or copying relates to scope, as in whether you need a license or not
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<eam>
(as in whether copyright limitations apply at all)
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<|jemc|>
eam: I'm trying (in part) to figure out whether using a gem constitutes modifying/copying the work or linking the work, so that I would know which of those specific limitations would apply
<|jemc|>
but again, I don't expect a definitive answer without speaking to a lawyer, just seeking to be better informed before doing so
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<eam>
well you can't "use" a gem without making a copy of it
<eam>
when you copy software to install on your computer you are doing so under the license it is provided under