apeiros changed the topic of #ruby-lang to: Ruby 2.1.0-p0; 2.0.0-p353; 1.9.3-p484: http://ruby-lang.org|| Paste >3 lines of text on http://gist.github.com || RubyConf 2013 at http://www.justin.tv/confreaks
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<maloik_> Type Y to update oh-my-zsh: gs pop
<maloik_> time and time again
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<yorickpeterse> morning
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<yorickpeterse> time to run 40 million mongo document updates
<yorickpeterse> yay
<yorickpeterse> this will only take about 24 hours
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<manveru> you are still using mongo?
<manveru> my condolences
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<gnufied> I was talking to a client today and it is looking like a Mongo project. I feel SV startups esp have bit of hipster syndrome
<gnufied> tried telling him, most of what he is planning can be accomplished with postgres
<gnufied> but no fish
<gnufied> :(
<yorickpeterse> manveru: yes
<yorickpeterse> gnufied: you can hire and pay me a lot of money to tell this client he just signed their death sentence
<yorickpeterse> like, a lot of money
<yorickpeterse> 1 million dollars
<yorickpeterse> errr Euros, dollars are worth nothing
<manveru> bitcoin at least
<yorickpeterse> No, I want "real" money
<gnufied> yorickpeterse: lol
<manveru> but yeah, if he wants mongo just charge triple for it
<manveru> because that's at least as much work as it will cause
<yorickpeterse> crap, this process will take at least 10 hours
<manveru> not bad, down from 24
<yorickpeterse> I can get it faster though by breaking stuff up into multiple processes
<yorickpeterse> (lol Mongoid only has a single socket)
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<yorickpeterse> hm wait, I can probably just use the Ruby driver for this one-time-thing
<yorickpeterse> wonder how much faster that is
<yorickpeterse> but yeah, the move from Mongo is still very much a real thing here
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<yorickpeterse> but it's a big switch so probably won't happen in the next 2-3 months
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<yorickpeterse> haha, review:
<yorickpeterse> "FOLLOWING A DAY OF MEETINGS, I TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THE HOTEL'S SPA FACILITIES, FINDING THEM TO BE CLEAN AND UNCROWDED. [...]"
<yorickpeterse> the entire thing is in caps
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<yorickpeterse> jesus
<yorickpeterse> Mongoid took 17 seconds to query the darn thing
<yorickpeterse> the mongo driver runs the entire script (inc bootup) in about 3.5 seconds
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<maloik_> yorickpeterse: CAPS READ EASIER THAN SMALL LETTERS SO MAYBE THATS WHY?
<yorickpeterse> PROBABLY TO SHOW THE HOTEL OWNER HOW GOOD THE STAY WAS
<yorickpeterse> heh, they gave a 10 too
<yorickpeterse> "language" : "vietnamese"
<yorickpeterse> LOLOLOL
<yorickpeterse> I think this language detector is a bit, well, broken
<yorickpeterse> (hint: it is)
<yorickpeterse> good thing we're also swapping that out soon
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<ddd> like hubot's eval is? :)
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<yorickpeterse> eh?
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<ddd> wrong chan
<ddd> similar context, different channel
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<yorickpeterse> well, seems that on second count this process might actually take 5 days instead of 10 hours
<yorickpeterse> fuck
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<mbj> whitequark: question: return cannot take a block? Is parser correct here? https://gist.github.com/mbj/8284308
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<mbj> whitequark: Especially return-a.rb results in (block (return (send ...)) (args) wich is IMHO a bug.
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<whitequark> mbj: crap
<mbj> whitequark: crap == bug, or misunderstanding?
<whitequark> return definitely cannot take a block
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<mbj> *on my side
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<whitequark> bug, yes
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<whitequark> and I'm not excited :/
<mbj> whitequark: I'll report with reference.
<whitequark> yeah, I'll look into it
<mbj> whitequark: Yeah I can understand.
<mbj> whitequark: Context I'm testing parse(source) == parse(unparse(source)) for /**/*.rb on my machine, that includes rubyspec, mruby, and dozens of other stuff.
<mbj> This uncovers lots of stuff.
<whitequark> mbj: haha, apparently ruby_parser has the same bug
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<mbj> whitequark: And thx for your work on parser.
<mbj> whitequark: Your turnaround time when reporting a bug is awesome!
<mbj> whitequark: parser + unparser can currently roundtrip rails already.
<whitequark> heh
<whitequark> oh, that's nice
<mbj> whitequark: I do some minor preprocessing to normalize the AST, for example joinig the str segmens in a dstr into one.
<mbj> whitequark: Gonna add an integration test to unparser that does rails/rubypsec/mruby and probably the ruby stdlib.
<whitequark> yeah, stdlib can uncover a lot of bugs
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<mbj> There is so many unexpected syntax in ruby. Got some horror moments :D
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<brotherashe> Morning all!
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<brotherashe> I'm having a problem (albeit a dumb one) with dates. What does ruby consider to be a full year? 1/1/2014 - 1/1/2015 is what I think it expects.
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<maloik_> not sure, do you have code to explain the actual problem brotherashe ?
<maloik_> I'd say from the first second of the year up to and including the last
<maloik_> so 00:00:00 2015 is no longer 2014
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<maloik_> 23:59:59 is
<maloik_> well, of the last day of december of course
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<maloik_> brotherashe: via rails helpers: https://gist.github.com/hannesfostie/de0e5f098f62555ce9a7
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<brotherashe> 1.9.3p429 :001 > Time.now + 1.year
<brotherashe> => 2015-01-06 09:44:50 -0600
<brotherashe> Eehhh i should've gisted that. Sorry about that.
<maloik_> as I said you probably want to explain the actual problem :-)
<brotherashe> Well We have a rails app that build budgets - clients enter a date range - generally they think to send Jan 1 to Dec 31st
<brotherashe> But it's been causing some problems.
<maloik_> That's extremely vague... also, code! :-)
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<brotherashe> It's a ton of code, lol. I think I've going about using dates wrong and need to rely on helpers less.
<maloik_> you might not be handling timezones correctly, or perhaps you're not using #beginning_of_day on the from and #end_of_day on the to dates
<brotherashe> You might be right on #end_of_day, actually.
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<yorickpeterse> ljarvis: so I was googling for some Ruby stuff
<yorickpeterse> ljarvis: and I ended up on a SO answer from you.
<yorickpeterse> Took me a while to realize that this was you and not Justin Bieber
* yorickpeterse runs
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<mbj> whitequark: rubinius bug related to the recent parser issue? tell me pls ;)
<whitequark> they handle the return case but fail on a similar one for break/next
<brixen> whitequark: I'll fix those other cases
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<brixen> I can only assume MRI is doing the same thing: special casing in the interp or compiler
<whitequark> no
<whitequark> I couldn't find any code handling the case at least
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<whitequark> and as said on #rubinius, this will likely be self-fixed by the generation of stack-based bytecode, due to the order in which iter, return and send are traversed in those cases
<brixen> weird
<whitequark> well, I'll check it with gdb, out of pure curiosity
<mbj> Is there anything like rbx compile -S file.rb for jruby?
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<whitequark> mbj: jruby special-cases this in a better way (I've already checked)
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<whitequark> the comment about MRI not hitting this production is incorrect, ruby -y clearly shows it
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<mbj> whitequark: nice. Can you tell me how you checked for jruby, wanna learn this.
<mbj> ruby -y was also new for me :D
<whitequark> mbj: I found a link in the rbx issue :p
<mbj> :D
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<ivanskie> do any of the guys from teamtreehouse hang out here?
<ivanskie> wrong room.. err
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<dernise> Hey ! Is there an other way to force a process to kill other than `kill -9 #{pid}` ?
<dernise> to die* ahah
<whitequark> Process.kill(pid, :KILL) ?
<dernise> This won't just send a SIGTERM?
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<cout> kill -9 -1
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<dernise> Sometimes for example a java application crash
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<dernise> And the only way to stop it is to *force* kill it. With the -9 option on linux
<dernise> How can I implement -9 in ruby?
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<dernise> Currently I'm killing it with : ::Process.kill('TERM', @daemon_id)
<whitequark> replace TERM with KILL
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<yorickpeterse> HN still down
<yorickpeterse> lol Arc
<havenwood> yorickpeterse: In the meanwhile: https://lobste.rs/
<yorickpeterse> meh, I have Reddit
<yorickpeterse> (lolol)
<yorickpeterse> I usually only read HN for the wonderful comments
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<dernise> thanks !
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<zzak> yorickpeterse: ping
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<yorickpeterse> zzak: pong
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<zzak> yorickpeterse: thinking about finally getting the HHKB
<zzak> are you still using it?
<yorickpeterse> yup
<yorickpeterse> loving it
<yorickpeterse> it's expensive though
<yorickpeterse> plus it took me a good 2-3 weeks to get used to the weird arrow key layout
<eam> zzak: I've used one for near a decade now, it's great
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<eam> holds up great over time, if you don't mind the key markings rubbing off
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<yorickpeterse> I have a blank one
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<yorickpeterse> it's commonly referred to as "The keyboard" around the office
<yorickpeterse> maybe that's because I clean it every Monday
<zzak> eam: are you using it with osx?
<eam> heh, mine wasn't blank originally but now .. :)
<zzak> i dont mind the markings
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<eam> zzak: I have, yeah. Works fine. My original was old enough it was ps/2
<eam> but one of my employers gave me a usb one
<zzak> yorickpeterse: where did you buy it?
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<zzak> eam: how does it work with the osx keys?
<yorickpeterse> zzak: http://www.elitekeyboards.com/
<zzak> ie: brightness, music, etc
<yorickpeterse> I don't think it has any of those
<eam> zzak: couldn't tell ya, OSX to me is basically a shell that runs a browser and terminals
<zzak> yar
* whitequark wonders whether he should get an ibm model m
<zzak> i guess the driver lets you remap or something
<eam> since I plug it into a laptop I just use the laptop buttons
<zzak> right
<zzak> its not a blocker, just curious
<whitequark> that thing would likely outlive my grandchildren
<zzak> if you knew
<zzak> eam: do you still have the original one?
<eam> zzak: I do, I have one ps/2 and one usb model. I could give it a spin this evening if you'd like and see if I can figure out the function keys (it's at home)
<jsullivandigs> I can attest personally to how wonderful the Kinesis Advantage keyboard is, if anyone is interested in knowing more about my experience with it.
<eam> zzak: actually, I believe it's the "lite 2"
<eam> with the odd arrow keys at the bottom right
<zzak> eam: sure, lemme know!
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<eam> will do
<zzak> like you said tho, i can just use the laptop keys otherwies
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<yorickpeterse> zzak: that's what I do now, then again I hardly use those keys
<zzak> yeap
<zzak> thanks <3
<yorickpeterse> np
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<matti> Yorick.
<matti> :>
<matti> How are you Sir?
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<apeiros> s/Sir/Your Majesty/
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<matti> Oh dear.
<matti> That one reminds me about The Queen too much.
<matti> What about Benevolent Dictator?
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<apeiros> Your Royal Manliness?
<matti> Haha
<matti> apeiros: +1
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<yorickpeterse> apeiros: GET IT RIGHT, IT'S...what was it again?
<yorickpeterse> Sultan or prince Yorick, can't remember
<yorickpeterse> also rofl at the manliness part
<apeiros> Yorick, prince of sultan
* apeiros huggles yorickpeterse ;-)
<yorickpeterse> http://downloads.yorickpeterse.com/images/sombrero.jpg <- does this look manly to you (ignore the Monday look)?
<yorickpeterse> well Tuesday technically but w/e
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<apeiros> verily
<yorickpeterse> I need to get myself a Johnny Bravo wig
<yorickpeterse> I already have a black V-neck shirt
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<apeiros> ooooh, johnny bravo - I approve!
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<matti> yorickpeterse: You look like a huge flower.
<yorickpeterse> haha
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<matti> :>
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<|jemc|> ugh.. never splat a socket
<ericwood> is that some kind of euphamism?
<|jemc|> I had a method that accepted an argument as either a single object or an array of objects
<|jemc|> and rather than typechecking with is_a? Array
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<|jemc|> I decided I'd be 'clever' and just splat it into array brackets
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<|jemc|> >> x = [1,2,3]; [*x]
<|jemc|> #=> [1,2,3]
<|jemc|> >> x = 1; [*x]
<|jemc|> #=> [1]
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<|jemc|> but when you splat a Socket, it tries to use each_line
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<|jemc|> and just hangs waiting for data >_<
<ericwood> lol
<|jemc|> so now it's x = [x] unless x.is_a? Array
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<|jemc|> learned my lesson about the hazards of duck typing when to_a could mean any number of things
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<yorickpeterse> clearly the solution here is this: class Socket; def to_a; []; end; end
<yorickpeterse> ActiveSocket
<yorickpeterse> also comes with #to_json
<|jemc|> heheh
<|jemc|> it was terrible because that little bug popped up right when I was checking concurrency properties of my object and my mind was still in that mode
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<yorickpeterse> > removed global state
<yorickpeterse> > test suite execution time went from 0,5 seconds to 27 seconds
<yorickpeterse> :<
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<zenspider> whitequark: oi
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