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<rob_> soahccc: hmmm, thanks..
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<soahccc> zenspider: Can you give me a use case where @@vars should be used?
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<RobertBirnie> why doesn't this work?
<RobertBirnie> array.reject!{|x| x =~ /#{a.sub(/a/,'c')}|#{b}/ }
<zenspider> because IRB has a terrible ruby parser
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<zenspider> try %r{a}
<zenspider> or extract that to a variable before
<RobertBirnie> array.reject!{|x| x =~ /#{a.sub(/a/,'c')}/ } works
<RobertBirnie> it only fails when the second variable is in there
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<drbrain> IRB bug
<RobertBirnie> i'm getting the same issue with ruby 1.8.7 running as a regular script
<soahccc> isn't IRB just a REPL?
<drbrain> soahccc: it has a pure-ruby lexer so sometimes it gets the syntax wrong
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<zenspider> and it's pretty bad
<RobertBirnie> hmm yeah. it does work with regular 1.8.7 damn back to the drawing board to figure out my bug....
<RobertBirnie> i've got a much larger script parsing hostnames (over 1k names) and it fails on 4 of them... haha needle in a hay stack :S
<RobertBirnie> i thought i had nailed it down to that, but i guess not
<zenspider> parsing hostnames probably shouldn't be "a much larger script". that might be the first thing to address
<RobertBirnie> the script generates a known_hosts file from puppet facts stored in mysql
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<zenspider> seriously... that's umpteen levels of wtf
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<rationalrevolt> I'm using the sequel gem, if I want to say 'select * from posts where id in (1,2,3)' how should I code that? I'm trying DB[:posts].where([:id,post_array]) which doesnt seem to work. Although if I say DB[:posts].where([[:id,post_array]]) it gives me "SELECT * FROM `posts` WHERE (`id` IN (1, 2, 3))"
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<rationalrevolt> am i forced to use a nested array like that?
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<zenspider> rationalrevolt: did you look at the doco?
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<rationalrevolt> i think i figured it out, i can say DB[:posts].where(:id => id_array)
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<zenspider> hoe 3.8.0 released
<zenspider> minitest-bacon 1.0.2 released
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<zenspider> omnifocus 2.1.3 released
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<zenspider> image_science 1.2.6 released
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<talonstriker> hi ruby-lang, I'm trying learn closures in ruby, and I'd like some help with a sytax error (here's the code snippet: http://pastebin.com/cfASDbzX)
<talonstriker> the error is find_au.rb:12:in `dive': no block given (yield) (LocalJumpError)
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<talonstriker> ok figured out that it has something to with the argument being passed, if i make it into a function with 0 arguments the code works
<talonstriker> how do I pass in a code block into a function that also takes arguments?
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<talonstriker> ah nvm figured it, should have made the function prototype as `def dive(directory, &codeblock`
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<darix> talonstriker: &block
<talonstriker> darix: thanks
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<talonstriker> also is it possible to bail out from a codeblock with a value? some_array[0..300].each do |n| break if n==3 done
<talonstriker> ideally i'd like that to eval to say "hello"
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<talonstriker> nvm google answered again `break "hello" if <whatever>`
<talonstriker> thanks for the help darix
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<speakingcode> is there a value that can be sent to an object via #send that will make the object return itself?
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<speakingcode> so like, x.send('field') returns x.field, can i pass something to x.send to get x back?
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<zenspider> speakingcode: why??
<zenspider> you already have x, so what's the point?
<zenspider> you could write: class Object; def identity; self; end; end but unless you're doing some odd functional programming, again, what's the point?
<speakingcode> well, i have a kind of special generalized 'sorting' method that will 'sort' items based on value of a field, the field being a parameter to the method, but i want to handle the case where the value of the object itself can be the value to 'sort' on (i'm not actually sorting but close enough in concept)
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<speakingcode> so like... custom_sort([x,y,z], last_name) will sort x,y, and z b ased on their last_name field
<speakingcode> but what if i'm passing ["john", "james", "brian"]... they don't have a field, but maybe inspect or to_s would work hmm
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<yxhuvud> so basically you are describing #sort_by ?
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<speakingcode> yxhuvud: yes but in actuality i'm not sorting, but it's conceptually similar to what i'm actually doing so easier to explain/ask that way
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<zenspider> speakingcode: I don't do "what if". sorry.
<speakingcode> zenspider: it's not what if. i'm not asking you to solve my application-level problem. i'm asking what can be sent to an object via send to get the value of the object itself
<speakingcode> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/a1ec0e69db8b2921ed4a here maybe this will help
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<rue|w> Ooh, ooh, I do
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<zenspider> it is a "what if" because you JUST used "what if" and I already answered your first question
<zenspider> besides... you're defining group_by
<zenspider> poorly. run `ri Hash.new`
<zenspider> then run `ri Enumerable.group_by`
<speakingcode> that's just an example. the point is it is a generic method, whose input types and the field to operate on, may vary
<speakingcode> perhaps i want to group the objects by class, or by some other metaproperty. or perhaps i don't want to group them at all and that's just a contrieved example to demonstrate the actual question i don't know how to spell out any more plainly: what can be sent to an object, via #send, to reflect the object?
<whitequark> speakingcode: just make your method accept a block
<whitequark> you can then emulate your old behavior by passing &:foo (block) instead of :foo (method name)
<zenspider> speakingcode: what the fuck did I say you should do the first time?
<whitequark> then inside... def sort(meth) x.send(meth) end becomes def sort(&block) block.call(x) end
<zenspider> because I answered that already
<speakingcode> zenspider: in the first place you said monkey patch Object with a method to return itself but my question is not how to monkey patch a class w a method to return itself, it was 'is there a value that can be passed to #send that will make the object return itself
<speakingcode> there is a stark difference between the two, though the end result is similar
<zenspider> wow
<zenspider> have fun with that bullshit dude.
<zenspider> I'm done with it
<whitequark> speakingcode: simple answer: no.
<speakingcode> if you don't know the answer to my actual question, or if it is no, simply say so. i didn't ask for a workaround to a problem i'm not trying to solve, i didn't say hey ask me for more details and tell me how to build my application
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<speakingcode> so you brought your own frustrations upon yourself
<whitequark> *facepalm*
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<speakingcode> whitequark: thank you for the simple answer to the simple question.
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<zenspider> oh do go fuck yourself
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<zenspider> can anyone recommend a _usable_, preferably mac-like, logic simulator?
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<zenspider> I'm trying out logic.ly and it's adobe air. ugh.
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<whitequark> logic simulator?
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<whitequark> oh, I see what logic.ly does. what do you need this for?
<zenspider> working out stuff for nand2tetris before I translate it to HDL
<whitequark> I was going to suggest using HDL tools... verilator or, say, Xilinx ISE
<whitequark> a combination of icarus and gtkwave works too, if you're FOSS-inclined
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<zenspider> the HDL side is handled by the curriculum's software. I need graphical tools to help me sort out wirings before I go to HDL. visual thinker.
<zenspider> ah. google's related: query is helping
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<zenspider> ugh. or not.
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<yorickpeterse> morning
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<gnufied> Morning
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<yorickpeterse> I need to come up with a way to prevent any code from building that uses global variables
<yorickpeterse> I think this one global `$cache` variable might be the root cause of 400MB of RAM
<yorickpeterse> and 170MB on the heap
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<rob_> hi, is it possible to access variables from a parent class without passing a reference to the parent object into the sub class?
<yorickpeterse> rob_: instance variables
<rob_> yorickpeterse: im not sure i understand
<yorickpeterse> instance variables can be accessed in sub classes
<whitequark> yorickpeterse: parse it?
<zenspider> yorickpeterse: hah!
<mikecmpbll> they can't can they?
<mikecmpbll> class variables can
<yorickpeterse> In instances they can
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<yorickpeterse> whitequark: it's not a direct dep sadly
<mikecmpbll> hm..
<whitequark> yorickpeterse: parse gems!
<yorickpeterse> whitequark: get out
<whitequark> sadly that would exclude all zenspider's gems :p
<yorickpeterse> this calls for *drumroll* trace_var() !
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<yorickpeterse> nah I'll just get rid of the source, $WORK code anyway
<zenspider> sabotage it. put an empty hash in the cache and make its setter a no-op
<zenspider> print caller first, do a run and aggregate the output
<yorickpeterse> (that's a deploy)
<zenspider> go fix worst first
<yorickpeterse> zenspider: I was going with `$cache.clear` after it's done
<yorickpeterse> or maybe just fix the Gem, lets see what's easier
<whitequark> this surely calls for $ git blame --strangle
<zenspider> ooh. def $cache.[]=(k,v); self.clear; v; end
<yorickpeterse> lol
<zenspider> Thread.new { loop do; sleep 60; $cache.clear; end }
<zenspider> something
<rob_> yorickpeterse: http://hastebin.com/xatiregibi.rb this doesnt seem to do anything..
<rob_> erk
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<rob_> 'A.new' >> paste
<zenspider> nope
<zenspider> rob_: what are you ACTUALLY trying to do? like, 30kfoot/10km view?
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<yorickpeterse> rob_: you're not creating any intances there
<rob_> access a parent class variable from a subclass
<yorickpeterse> * instances
<yorickpeterse> https://eval.in/90276
<zenspider> rob_: no.. that's about the 10 foot view
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<zenspider> but... you type / respond slow... so I'm going back to my studies
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<rob_> thanks, i think what im trying to do is probably wrong
<rob_> here's my actual code: http://hastebin.com/tubotecoto.rb
<rob_> i want to access @switches and @config from the sub classes
<rob_> e.g MCollective
<zenspider> to start, you really really need to call super
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<zenspider> unless you KNOW you shouldn't... and then you need a comment saying why
<rob_> zenspider: i just removed all the super confusion stuff i'd added
<rob_> so you can see my code and what im i'd like to do rather than a load of stuff that wasnt working :)
<zenspider> the lack of super is the only glaring thing wrong here
<rob_> so if i add an initialize method to FetcherBase and add 'super' there..
<zenspider> see yorickpeterse's paste
<zenspider> and those are ALL instance variables, not class variables.
<zenspider> big difference
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<rob_> aye
<rob_> zenspider: from what i read in ruby 2.0 class variables arent inherited by subclasses (as matz considered it a bug in pre 2.0)..
<zenspider> so, mcollective's initialize needs to take a config arg, then a plain super
<zenspider> again, you're not using cvars
<zenspider> and prolly shouldn't in this case anyhow
<rob_> yeah, thats why im not..
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<zenspider> and matz was wrong that it was a bug
<zenspider> but that's another story
<rob_> ok :)
<yorickpeterse> rob_: they still are
<zenspider> def MCollective; def initialize config; super; ...local stuff...; end; end
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<zenspider> er... I forgot the superclass... but you get it
<rob_> it feels wierd that i have to pass @config into my subclass and then for it to be passed back into my parent class...
<zenspider> I think that's because you're not differentiating between classes and instances yet
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<rob_> my parent class is only ever going to contain a single instance of each sub class
<rob_> im not even sure the design of this is correct, im just sort of guessing..
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<zenspider> and that's why I think you're not differentiating between classes and instances
<zenspider> but it is 2am here and I either need to study more or sleep
<zenspider> later. good luck.
<rob_> how should i be differentiating? :)
<rob_> ok, thanks for your help
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<yorickpeterse> http://downloads.yorickpeterse.com/images/drop_the_heap.png guess this is clear enough
<yorickpeterse> fix works, op success
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<mikecmpbll> yorickpeterse: what's that you're using there?
<mikecmpbll> to graph the gc heap
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<mikecmpbll> ta :)
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<yorickpeterse> not a clear cut solution though, requires setting up what you want to log, etc
<yorickpeterse> but you can do stuff like this when set up nicely http://downloads.yorickpeterse.com/images/screenshot_160114_12%3a04%3a41.png (that's a pretty basic graph)
<mikecmpbll> yeah, just been reading into it -- it looks powerful.
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<yorickpeterse> heh, didn't expect that actually *lowering* timeouts would make things faster
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<yorickpeterse> though when you think of it it does make sense
<yorickpeterse> less time spent waiting for shitty websites to respond
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<workmad3> yorickpeterse: in most cases, I wouldn't expect it to happen... that it did would imply that a good proportion of your requests are timing out :)
<yorickpeterse> about 80% of our errors are timeouts
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<yorickpeterse> counting about 18000 timeouts
<yorickpeterse> I'm still convinced there's something wrong on our end in terms of server setup
<yorickpeterse> but it's like chasing ghosts
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<whitequark> OVER 9000 TIMEOUTS
<workmad3> whitequark: 2*9000 TIMEOUTS!
<yorickpeterse> around 3900 in the last 10 minutes
<workmad3> o.O
<yorickpeterse> welcome to scraping
<yorickpeterse> please take a seat next to the shitty web API
<workmad3> are your routers rate limiting your outbound requests?
<yorickpeterse> nfi, ask Amazon :P
<yorickpeterse> I did quite tweaking/measuring/etc about a week ago but couldn't really find a thing that helped
<yorickpeterse> and our instances have plenty of bandwith (1 Gbps I believe)
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<yorickpeterse> netstat -al | grep -P 'ip-.+TIME_WAIT' | wc -l # => 100
<yorickpeterse> ._.
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<yorickpeterse> aaaand still a memory leak, except this time the heap doesn't show it
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<tubbo> hey guys, having a major wtf in 2.1.0
<tubbo> irb(main):001:0> "".encode
<tubbo> gets me `NoMethodError: undefined method `encode' for "":String`
<tubbo> wtf?
<tubbo> no joke this worked flawlessly yesterday. what happened??
<tubbo> oh never mind i'm an idipt
<tubbo> idiot*
<tubbo> sorry guys i was running on the wrong version :P
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