apeiros changed the topic of #ruby-lang to: Ruby 2.1.0-p0; 2.0.0-p353; 1.9.3-p484: http://ruby-lang.org|| Paste >3 lines of text on http://gist.github.com || RubyConf 2013 at http://www.justin.tv/confreaks
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<drbrain> RobertBirnie: \o/
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<zenspider> idgi... despite not having the hand tuned optimizations that my old lexer has... the new parser is ~90% faster
<zenspider> there has to be something wrong... it doesn't make sense
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<zenspider> wow. no obvious regressions either... it really is just faster
<zenspider> I can't explain it
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<zenspider> soo confused
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<r0bgleeson> zenspider: what new parser?
<r0bgleeson> zenspider: did you rewrite it
<zenspider> I'm rewriting my lexer to be more managable and apparently ~80% faster
<zenspider> tho I fully expected it to slow down by a few percent
<r0bgleeson> ah
<r0bgleeson> nice surprise then
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<zenspider> means something is wrong
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<r0bgleeson> maybe you had a bottleneck in there that you unitentionally removed
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<Dessan> Hey everyone, I hate to be that new guy who just lays a question on you. However I'm stuck and just can't figure it out. I need to cause an action to happen x(divisible by ten) times out of 100. However I need it to be distributed as evenly as possible over 100 per the percentage. Any Ideas?
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<toretore> rand(100) > x
<toretore> < i mean
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<Dessan> Sat with that going for a while. Over a large number that may wash out but over an action happening say 100 a day it is fairly inaccurate. Was my first inclination though.
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<|jemc|> well, in order to solve your problem you'll have to pin down what you mean mathematically to say that they are "distributed as evenly as possible"
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<|jemc|> once you can define for yourself what about the numbers you're getting from rand aren't suitable to you it may be a very easy problem to solve
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<jacky> anyone has benchmarks of 2.0.0 - 2.1.0
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<yorickpeterse> morning
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<yorickpeterse> yay DB repair done, that took oly 6,5 hours
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<ljarvis> hi
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<ledestin> I want to make a module such as calling def_hook :onExpiry in class context would lead to method def onExpiry &b; @onExpiry = b || DO_NOTHING; end' and @onExpiry = DO_NOTHING called.
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<ledestin> I was able to do it by calling def_hook in the initialize method, but that has disadvantages
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<maloik> What's the question ?
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<ledestin> maloik: https://gist.github.com/ledestin/8331598 how would you define the Hookable module?
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<yorickpeterse> benchmarking hello world
<yorickpeterse> best benchmark
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<yorickpeterse> lol, Sinatra does 2600 trans/sec, Grape does 2100, rails-api 660, rails 4 550
<yorickpeterse> Sinatra also uses the lowest amount of mem
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<yorickpeterse> 32 MB vs 44 MB for Grape and 51 MB for the Rails stuff
<yorickpeterse> lolol, plain Rack does 6200 trans/sec
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<tbuehlmann> what about cuba?
<yorickpeterse> lemme try that
<yorickpeterse> Cuba does 5600 trans/sec
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<yorickpeterse> GO FORTH LITTLE EC2'S, SCRAPE THOSE WEBSITES
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<yorickpeterse> "Mysql2::Error: Too many connections " woops
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<r0bgleeson> yorickpeterse: The MySQL server has gone away!
<yorickpeterse> more like "The MySQL server took a beating and is now being a little baby:
<yorickpeterse> * "
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<yorickpeterse> it should be more than capable of dealing with 300 connections
<yorickpeterse> double AR's pool size, might've been AR
<yorickpeterse> * doubled
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<crankharder> there's some serious ruby-fu that's beyond me. using this gem, specifically this method: https://github.com/burke/class_inheritable_attributes/blob/master/lib/class_inheritable_attributes.rb#L71
<crankharder> and this example
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<crankharder> why does line #7 in that example raise? I would think line #4 is class level and correctly sets the attribute. but it doens't. why?
<r0bgleeson> crankharder: self.bar = 234
<crankharder> just updated that gist to reverse my comments
<crankharder> r0bgleeson: yea, i noticed that fixes it -- but why?
<r0bgleeson> well, on L4 you have assigned a local variable
<r0bgleeson> you need to prefix "self."/a receiver when calling a setter
<crankharder> ...in what context?
<r0bgleeson> in the context of class Broken
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<crankharder> kinda a weird place for a variable. is that accessible inside methods?
<r0bgleeson> you can assign a variable anywhere in ruby. the only exception being a constant inside a method, as far as i know
<r0bgleeson> it's not accessible inside a method, no
<crankharder> hmm, ok. wasn't expecting that
<r0bgleeson> yeah, unfortunately "foo = 1" is ambigious, so it is not resolved to self, since you could really want a local.
<r0bgleeson> you need an explicit receiver in that case
<r0bgleeson> self.foo = 1 etc
<crankharder> ya, ok.
<crankharder> thanks :)
<r0bgleeson> sure
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<cout> "constant variable"
<r0bgleeson> nature of ruby ;)
<cout> still weird
<r0bgleeson> yeah, for sure
<r0bgleeson> my constants are always constant
<r0bgleeson> and typically defined in class body, not a method
<cout> C++ has the same quirk in its nomenclature
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<jds> Any suggestions what might cause a backtrace of "synchronize at <internal:prelude>:10" ? I'm trying to track down a Rails deprecation warning
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<r0bgleeson> jds: can you gist the whole backtrace and exception, that's a single line out of a trace
<jds> r0bgleeson: that's the only info I have. Guess I'll monkey-patch the deprecation warning method to give a full backtrace
<r0bgleeson> is it an exception or a deprecation message?
<jds> deprecation
<r0bgleeson> ah
<r0bgleeson> try to not monkey patch
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<jds> "DEPRECATION WARNING: Relation#calculate with finder options is deprecated. Please build a scope and then call calculate on it instead. (called from synchronize at <internal:prelude>:10)" is all I get. I'm open to non-monkey patch suggestions...
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<r0bgleeson> where do you call calculate from?
<r0bgleeson> you want to say something like, where(product_id: [1,2,3,4]).calcucate()
<r0bgleeson> i dont know what calculate does, but the warning is saying you're pasing conditions into calculate() itself
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<jds> r0bgleeson: Yep, I'm not calling calculate directly. That message crops up occasionally in our log files, but it's a pretty huge app and will be difficult to narrow down where it comes from. I can't reproduce it myself, but I see it occasionally while our app is running
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<r0bgleeson> jds: ah. it might be good to try find out where it happens, because deprecation warnings turn into unsupported APIs in time
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<jds> That's why I'm trying to get a backtrace
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<r0bgleeson> you could do something like this, class Relation; hm = method(:calculate); define_method(:calculate) { |*args, &block| p caller; hm.bind(self).call(*args, &block) }; end
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<r0bgleeson> pretty much to monkey patch, print the callers stack, and then restore old behavior by calling the oriignal
<r0bgleeson> original
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<r0bgleeson> jds: that's all wrong, hm = instance_method(:calculate) (probably)
<r0bgleeson> jds: the important part is you can use 'caller'
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<yorickpeterse> Hmpf, Sinatra doesn't seem to like it when I nest a `use` call in a namespace
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<crankharder> hrm, anyone know a way to stub/expect that super is called? using test/unit & mocha
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<maloik> I'm creating an app where the show view of an object contains a payment form and is publicly accessible, but I suppose the regular id's are better obfuscated... is uuid the best way to handle this ?
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<yorickpeterse> if the original IDs are auto incremented, yes
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<darix> maloik: if your DB has a uuid column type, you can even use that directly
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<darix> there was even a recommendation to use uuids completely instead of numeric IDs
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<maloik> darix: hmm I'll try to look for something like that
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<darix> e.g.
<darix> might also be interesting for you
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<maloik> builtin, sweet
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<maloik> im using mysql though
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<yorickpeterse> "But, are we worried about disk space in this time and era?"
<yorickpeterse> YES IF YOU'RE USING MONGODB
<apeiros> darix: you're aware that uuids are numeric too, right? :)
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<apeiros> uuid primary keys come with a huge performance penalty, though (hardware has 64bit native ints, not 128bit)
<maloik> hmm
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<maloik> so perhaps a simple securerandom slug is better here
<yorickpeterse> just use an UUID already, if it's not a primary key you'll be fine
<darix> apeiros: yes
<yorickpeterse> unless you have omg-scale data the extra storage cost is small
<yorickpeterse> (e.g. in our case it would only be an extra 500MB)
<apeiros> yeah, storage shouldn't be an issue
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<maloik> well if I were to do that I was going to use it as a primary key... if not I'll go the slug route
<maloik> not that there's a big difference but still
<apeiros> even with 1 million records, it'd only cost around 16MB of storage (the uuids alone)
<yorickpeterse> what's wrong with just HerpDerp.find_by_uuid
<yorickpeterse> apeiros: 1M is fuck all
<yorickpeterse> that reminds me of those people that "benchmark" Mongo by inserting a massive 1 million documents
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<yorickpeterse> wohoo spooky, 1M documents
* yorickpeterse shakes cane
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<darix> maloik: mysql has a uuid function too btw
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<yorickpeterse> nice if you can process about 100.000 reviews per hour
<yorickpeterse> using 10 servers
<yorickpeterse> I suppose my concurrency work is paying off
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<yorickpeterse> and this is on MRI, pretty sure Rbx can do more
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<whitequark> I wonder if it can
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<yorickpeterse> I have already benchmarked it locally and it can
<yorickpeterse> (after I took out the bottlenecks such as stupid socket usage by yours truly)
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<yorickpeterse> granted the benchmark was rather crude
<yorickpeterse> once this batch is done I'll just flip the switch and see how it holds up for a few days
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<yorickpeterse> which basically comes down to 1) echo rbx-2.2 > .ruby-version 2) go to jenkins, hit release and choose "rbx-2.2" 3) wait 2-3 minutes for servers to reboot
<yorickpeterse> optional 4th step: watch Nokogiri segfault
* brixen shakes yorickpeterse's fist at Nokogiri
<yorickpeterse> haha
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<yorickpeterse> I do wonder who's going to call us first, the owners of these websites or Rollbar
<yorickpeterse> that's in seconds
<brixen> on what? MRI?
<yorickpeterse> yeah
<yorickpeterse> it's the mean of 10 instances though
<brixen> if you ever see that in RBX, you better call my cell phone
<brixen> I'll give you the number :)
<yorickpeterse> heap is pretty stable, probably around the time of when I did a deploy
<yorickpeterse> hahaha
<brixen> s/RBX/rbx/
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<yorickpeterse> need to stuff more metrics in though, curious to see the bandwith usage, the amount of requests we make, etc
<yorickpeterse> moar data
<r0bgleeson> yorickpeterse: YOLO = GC; def YOLO.enable; GC.disable; end; YOLO.enable
<yorickpeterse> gripes, it actually spent 12 seconds in the GC in one instance
<yorickpeterse> * cripes
<r0bgleeson> GC.dup*
<r0bgleeson> don't want to do something stupid
<yorickpeterse> http://hastebin.com/bewemacele.txt shit's insane
<yorickpeterse> (see gc_total_time)
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<r0bgleeson> those are cool stats
<r0bgleeson> what are you using to generate those?
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<yorickpeterse> the data or the logging entries?
<yorickpeterse> (as in, the numbers vs the log entries)
<r0bgleeson> the gc_*, time_* stuff.
<yorickpeterse> I use...
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<yorickpeterse> GC::Profiler.total_time and GC.count
<yorickpeterse> we reset the GC profiles after each run so it doesn't leak
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<r0bgleeson> is that the number at time of insert?
<yorickpeterse> so basically
<yorickpeterse> GC::Profiler.enable; .... work here ...; measure stuff; GC::Profiler.clear
<r0bgleeson> trying to figure out what the JSON is for
<yorickpeterse> oh, the JSON is for ElasticSearch
<yorickpeterse> that happens outside of the measurements
<yorickpeterse> it's constant time anyway
<yorickpeterse> The heap size is calculated using...
<r0bgleeson> interesting
<r0bgleeson> so each log you collect also has those stats?
<yorickpeterse> yes
<r0bgleeson> cool idea
<yorickpeterse> some other processes also log how many things they update, what they update, etc
<yorickpeterse> it looks like....
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<yorickpeterse> too much to fit in one screen :P
<yorickpeterse> dashboard also shows raw entries but I'll keep those to myself
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<yorickpeterse> (those 6 graphs are on the same page)
<yorickpeterse> we have 12 of these
<yorickpeterse> though some of them are more basic
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<yorickpeterse> Chrome really doesn't like these memory wise though
<ljarvis> does anyone here use tsocks?
<yorickpeterse> ljarvis: I think I can figure out why you'd need that :P
<r0bgleeson> yorickpeterse: very cool
<yorickpeterse> r0bgleeson: it's fun to keep in mind that a few months ago we were basically blind numbers wise
<yorickpeterse> "How well does this perform? ehhhhh...."
<r0bgleeson> ljarvis: not in the traditional sense. only when i'm making talking puppets.
<yorickpeterse> <3 Kibana
<r0bgleeson> yorickpeterse: some people use new relic
<yorickpeterse> and ElasticSearch, except for those two cluster crashes
<r0bgleeson> im not that impressed by new relic
<yorickpeterse> new relic is cool if you're ok with throwing money at them
<r0bgleeson> their code is gnarly
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<r0bgleeson> bad support for ActionController::Metal
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<ljarvis> yorickpeterse: you can?
<ljarvis> r0bgleeson: har
<yorickpeterse> ljarvis: *COUGH* *COUGH* PROXIES *COUGH* scraping maybe *COUGH*
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<yorickpeterse> I like it how people treat that business as semi illegal often
<ljarvis> heh, actually no, it's a security precaution
<yorickpeterse> "OMG YOU CAN'T SCRAPE US THAT'S AGAINST THE LAW" "no it's not"
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<yorickpeterse> ljarvis: but no, never used tsocks
<ljarvis> its like, older than the world
<ljarvis> but i cant find a decent alternative
<yorickpeterse> what are you trying to do?
<ljarvis> and i dont know much about proxies
<r0bgleeson> what does it do?
<yorickpeterse> r0bgleeson: library for interacting with the SOCKS protocol (= proxies)
<r0bgleeson> ah
<ljarvis> well, I use port forwarding on a server, then I need to tunnel an ssh connection through that tunnel
<ljarvis> right now I ssh -D in one terminal, then use tsocks in another
<yorickpeterse> oh dear
<yorickpeterse> are you trying to forward arbitrary traffic or HTTP?
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<yorickpeterse> or is this one of those crazy bastion setups?
<ljarvis> ssh
<yorickpeterse> if you're trying to forward SSH you could take a look at ssh-agent
<yorickpeterse> or at least some part of SSH is literally meant for that
<ljarvis> the middle-man server is simply another layer of security
<ljarvis> hm yeah
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<yorickpeterse> either way, you can tell ssh-agent to forward any traffic it gets to another host I believe
<yorickpeterse> Never tried it though
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<whitequark> yorickpeterse: ljarvis: ssh-agent handles key material. forwarding is simply done with -R or -L switches
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<ljarvis> hmm
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<ljarvis> meh
<ljarvis> this all sucks
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<darix> what are you trying to do exactly?
<darix> ssh -> jumphost -> other servers
<darix> and other servers should authenticate using your key?
<ljarvis> darix: exactly
<darix> Host <jumphost>
<darix> ForwardAgent yes
<darix> in .ssh/config
<darix> or
<darix> ssh -A
<darix> hth
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<ljarvis> hm
<darix> yes?
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<finnnnnnnnnnn_> hey, I'm having some issues migrating from RVM to rbenv. Bundler seems to be looking in the wrong place for gems. Anyone able to help?
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<yorickpeterse> try regenerating your shebangs
<yorickpeterse> you can do that using..
<yorickpeterse> gem pristine --only-executables --env-shebang --all
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<whitequark> "regenerate your shebangs" sounds corny
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<apeiros> she bangs
<apeiros> well…
<yorickpeterse> *rimshot*
<finnnnnnnnnnn_> yorickpeterse: was that in response to me?
<yorickpeterse> yes
<finnnnnnnnnnn_> thanks - invalid option: --env-shebang
<yorickpeterse> gem update --system
<yorickpeterse> (came with recent versions)
<finnnnnnnnnnn_> ahhh, ok. one mo
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<finnnnnnnnnnn_> hmmm, You don't have write permissions for the /Library/Ruby/Gems/2.0.0 directory.
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<finnnnnnnnnnn_> should I sudo?
<whitequark> apeiros: nay, that's too dense
<yorickpeterse> why the fuck are your Gems in /Library ?
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<yorickpeterse> (also lol at OS X file structures)
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<apeiros> yorickpeterse: seriously, until *nix has fixed its crappy file structures, you're in no position to laugh at OSX
<yorickpeterse> besides there being 5 alternatives for every directory it's not bad
<yorickpeterse> I actually also enjoy having 3-4 /bin directories
<apeiros> yorickpeterse: yes, we all love ~/.putallyourtrashhere
<yorickpeterse> OH FUCK THAT SHIT
<yorickpeterse> run-some-command
<yorickpeterse> 4 extra ~/. files
<apeiros> see
<yorickpeterse> sadly not everybody uses the XDG standard
<yorickpeterse> pot kettle etc
<whitequark> ruby-lint isn't a desktop app
<whitequark> it shouldn't use xdg
<whitequark> and if you don't autocreate the config file it's always fine
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<apeiros> that said, I love all those shitty apps (micro$oft, I'm looking at you) which think it's awesome to put config files and stuff into ~/Documents in OSX.
<apeiros> srsly, fuck those companies.
<yorickpeterse> whitequark: XDG isn't strictly for just desktops
<yorickpeterse> at least not anymore
<yorickpeterse> somebody should write Gunix (Unix in Go) with just one directory: /
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<yorickpeterse> the file system is statically typed so you can't have any file corruptions
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<finnnnnnnnnnn_> sorry, I thought. I'd fixed it but no luck. Still unable run gems :(
<finnnnnnnnnnn_> I run bundle and get a happy result - Your bundle is complete! but I try to 'foreman start' and get a Could not find 'foreman' (>= 0) among 10 total gem(s)
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<whitequark> yorickpeterse: wat/
<whitequark> *?
<yorickpeterse> that was a joke
<whitequark> go's type system is laughable
<yorickpeterse> "Unix in Go" - should've been enough
<whitequark> the only thing it prevents you from having is reusable code
<finnnnnnnnnnn_> screw it, I give up. thanks
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<yorickpeterse> I was about to say "try chruby"
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