<wpwrak> zrafa: thanks ! seems that debian ran into the same problem: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=515431
<wpwrak> zrafa: and there's even a worse incarnation, for beta releases: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=563344
<wpwrak> so .. the bad spectrum is not a new problem: http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/people/werner/wpan/tst-tx/
<wpwrak> (in a way, that's good - means that i can debug it with the latest boards, which support the constant frequency test mode)
<kristianpaul> oh, adam is cooking something :-)
<wolfspraul> cooking what?
<wpwrak> hmm .. the clock looks rather awful. with lots of noise just in the FM range.
<wolfspraul> that's the ben clock you are reusing?
<kristianpaul> wolfspraul: i dont understand very well cause i traduced his blog entry (http://east3yrswest3yrs.blogspot.com/2011/01/blog-post_12.html)
<kristianpaul> Looks healthy
<wolfspraul> ah I see
<kristianpaul> :-)
<wpwrak> wolfspraul: yes. but it seems that i'm catching the FM outside the ben.
<qi-bot> [commit] Wolfgang Spraul: added snippet about new metal sheet http://qi-hw.com/p/m1/26e2d32
<wpwrak> let
<wpwrak> 's make the caps a little larger ...
<wpwrak> that got rid of some of the reflections, but not the "hill"
<wpwrak> hmm. now the question is how much of this horror is real and how much comes from the scope probe. http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/people/werner/wpan/rework-20110112/
<wpwrak> the DC offset is rather puzzling, too
<qi-bot> [commit] Joachim Steiger:  added missing background image http://qi-hw.com/p/m1/5228a87
<qi-bot> [commit] Joachim Steiger: Merge branch 'master' of git@projects.qi-hardware.com:m1 http://qi-hw.com/p/m1/a0552c4
<wolfspra1l> roh: there it is, nice :-)
<wolfspra1l> thanks!
<qi-bot> [commit] Joachim Steiger:  added more parts and material properties http://qi-hw.com/p/m1/9228004
<qi-bot> [commit] Wolfgang Spraul: added some sourcing notes for case parts http://qi-hw.com/p/m1/d61c132
<qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: atrf-txrx: new option -C to control CLKM output http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/cb7afe1
<qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: atrf-txrx.c (enter_test_mode_231): disable CLKM in AT86RF231 test mode http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-wpan/e90c596
<kristianpaul> :/, i dont know why my computer just shutdown... it was installing some rtems depences last time i had contact it by ssh
<kristianpaul> anyway.. lets see how it goes after this
<wpwrak> roh: hmm, in the usb button box, where the angled sides meet the top. were the angled terminations of the side part also laser-cut ?
<wolfspraul> kristianpaul: do you know much about the milkymist one expansion header?
<wolfspraul> I am looking at it right now, wondering how flexible it is...
<kristianpaul> let me see
<wpwrak> wolfspraul: "versatile" or "how far can it bend before it breaks" ? ;-)
<kristianpaul> J21 is that expacion header?
<kristianpaul> sheet 3
<kristianpaul> a PCB layout i missing btw, i thin is not much hard export from altium..
<kristianpaul> in pdf i meant*
<kristianpaul> wolfspraul: whos needs IO we have _wonderfull_ usb  :-D
<wolfspraul> I think there are two. J3 and J21.
<kristianpaul> where is J3?
<wolfspraul> J21 has 16 pins, J3 has 18 pins.
<wolfspraul> J3 is right next to it.
<wolfspraul> I think they are both expansion headers, no?
<wolfspraul> strange, the bom lists both j3 and j21 as 2*9 http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Milkymist_One_RC2_BOM
<wolfspraul> but J21 has 2*8, and J3 has 2*9
<wolfspraul> I think...
<kristianpaul> i need a rc3 pic, wait  amin
<kristianpaul> rc2*
<kristianpaul> both are 2*9
<kristianpaul> may be some pins not routed
<wolfspraul> oh you are right!
<wolfspraul> it was changed on rc2
<wolfspraul> ok so on rc2, we have 2 2*9 expansion headers
<kristianpaul> to be fair from where you get your rc3 pdf sch?
<wolfspraul> there is no rc3 yet
<wolfspraul> the files are a bit messy, sorry :-)
<wolfspraul> I just google
<wolfspraul> he he
<kristianpaul> lol
<kristianpaul> s/rc3/rc2
<wolfspraul> the only way to really this this up is all into kicad etc. but that's not my #1 priority right now
<wolfspraul> to really clean this up
<wolfspraul> rc2 schematics pdf: http://www.milkymist.org/mmone/rc2_schematics.pdf
<wolfspraul> J21 is documented on page 3, still haven't found J3
<wolfspraul> (and the pdf is not searchable :-))
<kristianpaul> ha i catch you !
<kristianpaul> i tought u already founded
<kristianpaul> i still looking for J3 too
<kristianpaul> (and the pdf is not searchable) PAIN !!
<kristianpaul> ok from m1 ucf i can see 12 IO
<wolfspraul> ah j3 is for audio only
<wolfspraul> page 1, I think j3 is hooked up to the audio codec
<kristianpaul> for how long it will? :-)
<wolfspraul> so only j21 is the fpga expansion header
<kristianpaul> audio, hum, what i fell is missing a extension cable here..
<kristianpaul> any way
<kristianpaul> s/fell/feel
<kristianpaul> for gps-sdr 13 pins are not so bad, not sure for a captiva cmos...
<wolfspraul> kristianpaul: yeah for image sensor it's not enough
<kristianpaul> The MIC2550A
<kristianpaul> is 2.0 USB compliant
<kristianpaul> but nah, is too much to deal with i think
<wolfspraul> kristianpaul: correct
<wolfspraul> Milkymist One will be fun
<wolfspraul> there are like 1000 really nice, really important open TODOs
<wolfspraul> the main thing in this project is to pick your battles wisely
<wolfspraul> I am still mentally wandering around the project trying to understand all the various things that work or don't work, could work, should work, will never work, etc.
<wolfspraul> and whether they are hard or easy to fix, depend on each other or not, and so on
<roh> wpwrak: nope. the angled stuff was filed after lasering it in a way that the were 'just long enough'
<roh> filed manually
<roh> then glued
<roh> also sandpaper was used