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<rqou> so Fry's Electronics does take returns of CPUs
<rqou> the benefits of irl brick and mortar retailers
<rqou> (unless you're the one buying open box items)
<rqou> :P
<azonenberg> lawl
<balrog> azonenberg, whitequark ^
<azonenberg> Burner accounts are so easy to make there's literally no point to doing it
<azonenberg> its just an intimidation/annoyance tactic
<balrog> unless they can ask Facebook to look you up
<azonenberg> In which case there's no point in asking for a password
<azonenberg> if the agency asks nicely they'll get the data one way or another
<balrog> there is, forced cooperation and humiliation
<azonenberg> Like i said, intimidation tactic
<azonenberg> Not for intel gathering
<balrog> yes
<azonenberg> the intel gained from the password is nil
<azonenberg> if they want your data they'll make fb fork it over regardless
<balrog> true, but that's supposed to require a court order
<azonenberg> Do you know how hard that would be to get in a trump-controlled system?
<balrog> not very.
<azonenberg> The goal is to impress on visitors that they have no privacy
<azonenberg> and convince them to not come
<azonenberg> Not to actually stop attacks
<azonenberg> Because trump is afraid of calling white supremacists, aka his voter base, racists
<azonenberg> and potential domestic terrorists
<azonenberg> aaanyway
<azonenberg> Going to be an interesting few years
<azonenberg> i'm just counting down the days until alex jones is named to a white house staff position
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<rqou> blargh, i hate my screwed up circadian rhythm
<nats`> getting a job is the best way to have it inline :D
<lain> that never worked for me
<lain> always end up on a 25 hour day
<rqou> my problem with being off "normal" is that a) i do need to occasionally interact with "normal humans"
<rqou> and b) when my sleep is off normal i get much less productive for some reason
<rqou> it's like half of my body knows "that's not right"
<rqou> offtopic: reason for having 10 cores on your workstation:
<rqou> old reason: one core to run windows, 8 cores to run Norton, 1 core to run your actual program
<rqou> new reason: one core to let firefox leak memory, one core to run kvm to waste cpu doing ???, 7 cores to run compiles, 1 core to run your actual program
<rqou> :P
<rqou> offtopic again: my desk is a huge mess again
<rqou> most of it is being taken up by my roommate's favorite CAD tool: Cardboard Aided Design :P :P
<rqou> but actually, i occasionally do use physical manipulatives
<rqou> imho we need much better computer input devices
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<lain> yes
<lain> well, the holodeck will solve that soon enough
<lain> and/or the matrix
<rqou> i mean, neurosky has "version 0" of trying to directly interpret data from your brain
<rqou> but apparently it only makes its way into toys :P
<rqou> huh, wikipedia claims that neuosky has been around since 2004
<rqou> but the timeline has nothing after the 2011 release of "that product" :P
<nats`> nobody played with post PNR simulation ?
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<cr1901_modern> azonenberg: What might cause XST to state one "maximum frequency" for a design, but show delays whose duration, plus setup+hold time, don't match up to the calculated value?
<cr1901_modern> 13.917 + 2.083 + 5.996 = 21.996, not 22.267
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<cr1901_modern> Additionally, the second constraint I listed the "maximum frequency/minimum period" actually matches the delay
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<azonenberg_work> cr1901_modern: jitter? clock skew?
<azonenberg_work> in other news
<azonenberg_work> apparently wireshark is able to display I2C packets
<whitequark> wireshark can do a lot of things
<azonenberg_work> i cant imagine using it for that, but nice to know its capable of it lol
<azonenberg_work> i mean i guess you could make a LA interface that works as a libpcap source...
<whitequark> it's useful because you only need to learn to write dissectors once
<whitequark> then use it for any wire fromat
<azonenberg_work> I guess
<azonenberg_work> Hmmm
<azonenberg_work> So rather than dissectors, here's a better question
<azonenberg_work> How hard is it to write a packet *source* for wireshark?
<azonenberg_work> Suppose i wanted to feed antikernel NoC packets into wireshark via JTAG
<azonenberg_work> how would i go about creating that source
<whitequark> good q
<azonenberg_work> Or, for starshipraider
<azonenberg_work> if i had an I2C sniffer decoding traffic from a DUT
<azonenberg_work> and wanted to get that into wireshark
<azonenberg_work> etc
<azonenberg_work> i could see using it for a LOT of my analysis work if i was able to basically stream pcap-format data to wireshark over TCP
<whitequark> lemme see
<whitequark> I mean the easiest way I see is just opening a tap interface then just streaming whatever into it
<whitequark> but it's dirty
<azonenberg_work> The other thing i have to figure out is how to add new link layers etc
<azonenberg_work> whitequark: My goal is to eventually take this sniffer app http://thanatos.virtual.drawersteak.com/unlisted/nocsniff.png
<azonenberg_work> rip out my horrible gtk GUI and replace it with wireshark
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<azonenberg_work> most of the design work in the app is in the dissectors, not the UI (as you can see)
<azonenberg_work> so i think i could port it fairly easily
<azonenberg_work> And also use wireshark as the analysis suite for starshipraider
<whitequark> azonenberg_work:
<whitequark> aarently
* azonenberg_work saves for reference
<azonenberg_work> i also have to figure out how to do filtering device-side
<azonenberg_work> because jtag does not have the b/w to record all NoC traffic to/from a specific node except in the most trivial cases
<azonenberg_work> So i want to be able to filter on, say, all traffic from PID 0x4141 to the I2C controller
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<rqou> offtopic: i just discovered that the hackintosh "a0b5b7c6-1318-441c-b0c9-fe695eaf949b" devicetree injection is used by actual macs
<rqou> it's not just a debug feature left over