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<mwlang>
I didn’t know inject’s arguments could be transposed… [1,2,3,4,5].inject{|sum,x| sum += x} => 15 and [1,2,3,4,5].inject{|sum,x| sum += x} => 15
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<mwlang>
has that always been the case or is that new with 1.9+
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<havenwood>
mwlang: the = in your += isn't doing anything of use
<mwlang>
havenwood: what? I’m not summing values?
<mwlang>
havenwood: as in sum = sum + x
<havenwood>
mwlang: it just cares what's returned on each iteration
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<mwlang>
havenwood: right…my point was |sum,x| vs |x,sum|
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<havenwood>
>> [1, 2, 3, 4, 5].inject { |sum, n| sum + n }
<havenwood>
mwlang: ^ compare that to my previous example.
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<baweaver>
Flip them on subtraction
<havenwood>
mwlang: Note sum and n are still respectively memo and obj. What you're really doing is just adding b + a instead of a + b. You're not changing what the arguments are.
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<axsuul>
Anyone know of a good way to make multiple long running websocket connections in a scalable way? That is, adding and removing websocket connections
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<mwlang>
To those of you that I made to suffer the pain of SQL injection of the eyes. I have a pretty cool rake task to tally up all SQL emitted to the logs by the Sequel gem: https://gist.github.com/mwlang/071827c71a58c7adbdcc
<mwlang>
thanks. I knocked the processing down from 896 seconds to 196 seconds in about 30 minutes after generating the first set of results.
<pontiki>
useful!
<mwlang>
for 14k records…I basically needed some indexes that were not in place.
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<pontiki>
man o man, data-based decision making
<mwlang>
pontiki: yeah, I agree. I ran the silly Microsoft Performance Analyzer and after an hour of collecting data, it told me, “there’s nothing to improve”
<pontiki>
is this the same time frame?
<mwlang>
pontiki: yeah.
<pontiki>
wow
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<mwlang>
both the importer and the perf. analyzer were running.
<pontiki>
seems like there are some standouts
<mwlang>
so they both captured the same queries.
<ebonics>
mwlang, are you good at sql
<ebonics>
i need halp
<mwlang>
ebonics: been doing it just about longer than any other language. :-o
<ebonics>
except im using shitpress (client forced me)
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<mwlang>
pontiki: some of those just can’t be helped…they have millions of rows of data.
<ebonics>
so i cant change the db schema, but i can add a temp table like the guy said in the solution
<ebonics>
but that seems so hackish
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<mwlang>
pontiki: but I’ve optimized a few away by simply doing a “big query” for all records pertaining to a product in a database and referring to the hash/cached data as I process the product’s data elements.
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<mwlang>
are you stuck because the id is in the data file?
<mwlang>
and you don’t need it?
<ebonics>
im stuck because the file is going to have duplicates all the time but it wont have the pk in it
<ebonics>
i need to use 3 non-key non-unique columns to identify dupes..
<ebonics>
but yeah i guess ill do it that way thanks
<mwlang>
ebonics: if you don’t like temp tables, then create a staging table that stays around.
<ebonics>
mwlang, i was thinking that, but it's just going to be shittier on performance i think
<ebonics>
no point
<ebonics>
actually
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<ebonics>
what if i sync another table but add indices
<ebonics>
and just keep it always sync'd
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<mwlang>
and if you want to avoid polluting a “production” schema, create another database schema on same DBMS and stage all your data there. an insert into prod.X select * from staging.X strategy would still be efficient.
<mwlang>
ebonics: as far as preprocessing goes, just load the data rows = File.read(‘data.txt’).split(“\n”).map{|m| m.split(“\t”)} # assuming tab delimited files…
<ebonics>
i actually made a schema file
<mwlang>
then toss the duplicate rows
<ebonics>
i could use that, but like
<ebonics>
ugh
<ebonics>
the thing is im skipping null values for performance, since a lot of the possible key value pairs arent used
<mwlang>
then File.open(‘data_clean.txt’){|f| f.puts rows.map{|m| m.join(“\t”).join(“\n”)}
<ebonics>
so its possible that another key value pair get added to the same entry
<ebonics>
i wish i could use conditionals with load data
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<mwlang>
Well, depending on just how complex your problem is, you have three choices 1) preprocess to clean before loading 2) load to staging/temp table and select / insert into or 3) grab Sequel and write a proper Ruby script to clean and insert as it goes.
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<ebonics>
mwlang, there's so many constraints, it's just a lot to explain
<ebonics>
but thanks a lot for your help
<mwlang>
ebonics the most performant way is probably to load in staging/temp tables and then issue a DELETE from X where C1 is null and C2 is null, etc.
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<mwlang>
and then INSERT into ...
<ebonics>
hmm
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<mwlang>
ebonics: I’ve done this latter strategy a few times…simple scripts to get it all into database tables, and then work some SQL magic to select, move, polish, find ID’s, etc.
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<shevy>
code code code
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<shevy>
slaves of the computers!
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<zotherstupidguy>
shevy we all slaves to our passsions ;)
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<mwlang>
shevy: I wish I were coding…I’m mostly analyzing and optimizing. :-p
<choke>
slaves to our passions? I think i need to pick one or two -- i'm a slave to all things involved in technology...
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<mwlang>
good news is I’ve taken the time to process 15,000 records down from 1400 seconds to 122 seconds. That’ll translate very nicely to processing 932k records tomorrow. :-)
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<choke>
nice... want to do my optimization? have a page in my marketing system that takes like 8 seconds to load... ( though it is php based ) as it cycles through approx 100mil rows in the db
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<mwlang>
choke: if you’re using Sequel, I got a rake task for ya. :-)
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<mwlang>
choke: but I reckon PHP nixes that one.
<choke>
yeah it's a SQL db... personally i'd like to rm -rf appfolder and rebuild it in rails... but the boss wouldn't even let me upgrade the system to version 2...
<mwlang>
just find what’s full-table scanning and slap an index on it….of if it has an index already….consider different kinds of indexes.
<choke>
not sure how i'd do it in rails though, as it serves different data for 400+ domains
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<choke>
well, not sure if that's really want i want... it's a marketing platform, so i have about 150 different one-page creatives that can be used multiple times across varying domains... our media buyers create a campaign, it generates a 5 character random access mask, and they select 1 or more creatives to use... and begin the marketing campaign... usually doing about 10 campaigns per domain
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<choke>
so basically: all those diet pill ads you may see on facebook -- yeah, odds are that's us lol
<mwlang>
choke: ah. different ballgame.
<choke>
yeah... i'm working on my resume now to get out of it... i haven't had anything to do for the last week
<mwlang>
why 100million rows?
<choke>
it's all the tracking for the stats page per campaign
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<mwlang>
ah…you have to roll that stuff up into summarized tables of the same stats when it gets big like that.
<choke>
i have cut that down a bit though, after a singular record is 3 months old it automatically gets purged...
<choke>
being that they're doing the marketing they're doing, each campaign only lasts about a week maybe 2
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<choke>
i'm actually thinking my course of action will be to get a new job, and slowly work on building my own development company again ( sold the last one )
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<mwlang>
choke: I went back and forth between full-time and consulting.
<mwlang>
my biggest clients kept coming up with persuasive arguments to convert me to FTE
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<mwlang>
but I finally had enough and just do consulting now. Much happier camper nowadays.
<mwlang>
no more death marching.
<Aeyrix>
Consulting's great.
<choke>
i've gotten a few FT that way myself when i did freelance. Problem for me is 99% of all my work is for private use and so i don't really have much of a portfolio... also, i don't like people...
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<mwlang>
Aeyrix: I agree!
<Aeyrix>
I did stuff to make a portfolio for show.
<Aeyrix>
Not public, but on-demand.
<Aeyrix>
That said, I work in security so a lot of my stuff can't be public anyway. ( ._.)
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<mwlang>
Aeyrix: what aspect of security? I’ve been working on a firewall that can stop outgoing threats as well as protect kids from inappropriate content
<choke>
I've actually been toying with the idea of making a social network ( as a challenge, that could be used as part of my personal portfolio ) for developers... taking the best aspects of like FB, twitter, G+, and SO among others and combining them into a singular system...
<mwlang>
(and keep ‘em from proxying out or doing other stupid tricks to defeat the firewall)
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<Aeyrix>
mwlang: Most of it. I specialise in network and web app, and "minor" in binary analysis of malware.
<Aeyrix>
I have a personal interest in virtualisation though, so I do a lot in that sapce too.
<Aeyrix>
Unfortunately I don't get to touch KVM/Xen as much as I'd like, so yesterday's VENOM vulnerability was actually news to me.
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<Aeyrix>
choke: Do it.
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<mwlang>
Aeyrix: Xen is my favorite of the VM platforms.
<choke>
Already registered the domain actually ( though still not 100% sold on the domain ): codetiviti
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<Aeyrix>
mwlang: Eh.
<Aeyrix>
KVM fan personally. I disilke the way Xen does some things.
<Aeyrix>
KVM is also statistically faster in a lot of cases. See: Linode.
<Aeyrix>
17% speed increase, I think?
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<certainty>
moin
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<mwlang>
Aeyrix: I’ll check it out. I haven’t done much virtualization lately because I pushed everything to Rackspace and sold all my servers.
<Aeyrix>
Rackspace cloud?
<Aeyrix>
What's the pricing on that.
<mwlang>
I’m actually more interested in CoreOS + Docker and the likes these days, so if I get some physical boxes again, that’s likely what I’ll experiment with.
<Aeyrix>
Gross.
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<Aeyrix>
I dislike Docker.
* baweaver
grabs popcorn
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<mwlang>
Aeyrix: I’m running two servers around $90/mo Hosts about 15 ~ 20 sites
* sevenseacat
shares it with baweaver
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<Aeyrix>
mwlang: Not bad.
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<choke>
I've never been a fan of docker either...
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<Aeyrix>
I had a bunch of boxes with SL until recently.
<Aeyrix>
For no real reason, I just kind of wanted SoftLayer boxes.
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<mwlang>
choke: nothing insane. The busiest sites run about 2k ~ 3k page views a day.
<mwlang>
most of the rest about 500 or so a day.
<mwlang>
mostly local businesses.
<mwlang>
sevenseacat: that takes me back....
<certainty>
ah nice, registration is required now
<choke>
not bad... @ work i'm running on AWS... and a metric fuck-ton of servers
<baweaver>
choke: You and me both mate.
<Aeyrix>
AWS is okay.
<Aeyrix>
I have my own slew of issues with it.
<choke>
we have on average about 300k+ unique views a day across our entire marketing platform
<Aeyrix>
But if you want ezpzscalability then go it.
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<choke>
yeah, though getting continuous integration along with load balanced auto-scaling groups, and DB replication to act right was a pain in the ass
<baweaver>
We just rolled our own honestly
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<baweaver>
Something about AWS Console giving global powers to any shmuck with login credentials
<mwlang>
choke: I can imagine. AWS isn’t all that easy.
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<Nilium>
Or cheap.
<Aeyrix>
Very true.
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<choke>
yeah -- i think our price tag per month right now is about 35K per month
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<baweaver>
and ops being lazy, but that's a different story and harder to sell than global access bad
<Nilium>
Upside is that if it's working, it at least shoul holy crap
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* baweaver
doesn't want to think of $WORKs pricetag
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<Aeyrix>
Yeah I don't want to know mine either.
<baweaver>
It's north of millions, certainly
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<Nilium>
I actually have a reasonable idea of what it costs to run our many servers, and it's surprisingly cheap because we didn't go with AWS
<Aeyrix>
Not surprisingly when you qualify it with that. :P
<choke>
i manage all things server related, so I manage the bill... if my boss had his way, i'd run everything on a single server and it would cost no more than $5 per month lol
<baweaver>
Something about spark clusters and compute instances
<Nilium>
We have our own physical servers, which we maintain, so there's cost and effort involved in that, but it's worked out extremely well
<Aeyrix>
Love me some heavy metal.
<Nilium>
What I personally want to do, because I'm not a sysadmin and I don't maintain the servers, is set up a giant cluster of Raspberry Pi 2s
<Aeyrix>
My clients can have all the cloud they want.
<baweaver>
We have a big shiny data center in Vegas, but needed faster scaling for some things
<Nilium>
'Cause I'm less concerned about disk space and memory and more about distribution of work
<Aeyrix>
Private, hybrid, public, cumulus.
<Aeyrix>
I don't care. Just as long as I get me that heavy metal.
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<choke>
Yeah nilium, i'm not an expert sys-admin, I really just know enough to make things function well...
<choke>
If i could hire someone who has put their career path down the sys-admin role to take charge of it, i would... but i wouldn't subject anyone to work for the company i work for
<Nilium>
I just write code and try to make sure it can run on a machine with 512mb of RAM (even though every server I get has way more)
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<Aeyrix>
>writing code on Ruby for 512MB or less of memory
<Aeyrix>
in Ruby *
<Nilium>
There are at least some benefits to coming from a game dev background when it comes to writing server-side software, I figure, but that's me tooting my own horn.
<Aeyrix>
#circlejerk
<Nilium>
Oh, no, I don't write anything for servers in Ruby. Ever.
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<Nilium>
I use Ruby for my personal tools and scripts and such, but it'll never go on a server.
<Aeyrix>
... I do.
<Aeyrix>
:^)
<baweaver>
Mixture of Python and Ruby here for ops work
<Nilium>
Written a bunch of tools for client-side stuff in Ruby, and that makes me happy, but almost everything I do that's going on a server is written in Go.
<baweaver>
Haskell :D
<Aeyrix>
Every time I look at Python I dislike it a little more.
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<Aeyrix>
So much inconsistency just aggravates me.
<Nilium>
Haskell and Erlang (or Elixir) in particular are on my to-do list
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<Aeyrix>
Haskell makes no sense to me.
<Nilium>
Haskell more for correctness
<Aeyrix>
It sounds deliberately inconvenient.
<baweaver>
One word: parallelism.
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<Nilium>
I like Scala, but I don't really feel like it does what I want.
<Nilium>
Also, the JVM dependency is fine for servers but makes it hard to justify.
<baweaver>
In more than one, easily testable, parallel out of box, and its type checker will catch most all errors
<Aeyrix>
>not using threads in Ruby for parallelism
<baweaver>
but best of all
<baweaver>
no nil
<Aeyrix>
Okay I regret even saying that ironically.
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<choke>
anything that has a java requirement is out as far as i'm concerned... but i really really hate java
<baweaver>
I only use Scala when Java is required, like for Spark.
<Aeyrix>
I don't dislike Java.
<snobbo>
ahem
<baweaver>
choke: same here
<Aeyrix>
I don't use it actively but it's not terrible.
<Nilium>
Concurrency was the main reason for picking Go for stuff. It handles things nicely for single-machine (and single-process) concurrency.
<mwlang>
baweaver: not bluehost are you?
<baweaver>
bluehost?
* baweaver
googles
<Nilium>
Erlang/Elixir have me interested mostly for much more widely distributed concurrent programming
<snobbo>
ruby eh
<choke>
I think python will actually be my next language... either that or i'll finally figure out how to use wordpress so that "i too can be a web developer"
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<Aeyrix>
Nilium: Mmmm.
<baweaver>
mwlang: nope
<Aeyrix>
Go's syntax is eh.
<Aeyrix>
It reminds me of Pascal a bit.
<Aeyrix>
:=
<Nilium>
The := is just a special form of variable declaration.
<Nilium>
Otherwise Go's more or less reminiscent of C.
<Aeyrix>
Rust master race.
<Nilium>
It's not a fancy language, but the lack of features and the use of gofmt and so on has made it easy to work in, which has proven fairly useful for the slightly-less-than-a-year I've been where I am.
<baweaver>
mwlang: $WORK == Sony
<Nilium>
Rust and Go tackle different problems, so I don't get why they're compared so often
<mwlang>
baweaver: ah. I didn’t know they were in Vegas.
<Aeyrix>
Because they overlap a bit.
<Nilium>
Not much.
<baweaver>
Data center is
<Aeyrix>
You can scream otherwise until the cows come home but it doesn't make it untrue.
<baweaver>
I'm in SF
<Nilium>
They're both systems programming languages, but Rust is way lower-level
<Aeyrix>
Mhm.
<Nilium>
Go's a very high-level language, very dumb. Rust is extremely flexible, gives you more control over memory, etc.
<Nilium>
The overlap is there but I feel like the areas where they overlap aren't what're important.
<baweaver>
I still refuse to use Java, too annoying to use.
<Aeyrix>
Probably, but the marketing for both unfortunately lead to a much larger apparent overlap.
<Aeyrix>
@Nilium: What do you use Go for?
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<mwlang>
I avoid Java like the plague as well.
<Nilium>
Back-end distributed services is the best I can think to describe it as
<choke>
Same here baweaver, only reason to learn it really is if you want to do any android apps... aside from that, it should be avoided like the plague...
<baweaver>
If you're forced to go JVM, Scala and Clojure are way better
* mwlang
happy with Ruby for now
<baweaver>
choke: You can use Scala for it now
<baweaver>
tooling is pretty good
<Aeyrix>
Nilium: Networking or just sort of endpoint?
<Aeyrix>
Does Go have libvirt bindings?
<Nilium>
Networking/work processing/etc.
<Nilium>
Nothing I work on has a public endpoint
<baweaver>
I had to work with Java in a Hadoop context
<Nilium>
It's all very much the backend guts of our services
<baweaver>
worst 3 months of my life before I quit that job
<baweaver>
now I'm here.
<Nilium>
Not sure about libvirt
<choke>
scala has a dependency of what though? java.. which, without knowing scala, probably means you need to have at least a basic understanding of java itself
<baweaver>
So all's well that ends well.
<Nilium>
You definitely do need to know Java to use Scala.
<baweaver>
Now I get to use Rails/JS
<baweaver>
Not really
<Nilium>
Looks like there are a few different bindings for libvirt.
<baweaver>
If you already have a JVM dependency though that's not going away, Scala is a good choice for less pain
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<baweaver>
that's what I'm saying
<Nilium>
baweaver: You could probably code fine in it, but in order to avoid some of the annoying quirks of Scala's resulting bytecode, it helps to be able to think about the equivalent Java it'd produce.
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<Aeyrix>
Nilium: It apparently does, but unofficial.
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<choke>
Yeah, and i'm basically stating that only reason to learn Java ( which would in turn mean only reason to learn scala ) is for android apps.. outside of that, it should all be avoided like the plague
<Aeyrix>
I disagree.
<Nilium>
'Cause there are some very easy ways to rapidly increase memory use with tiny allocations and such in Scala, unfortunately
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<Nilium>
I used Scala for two Android apps. It's fine if you know what to avoid (see last message)
<choke>
Could also be my blatant hatred of java... just like my household ban on anything produced by microsoft
<Aeyrix>
Yeah I'd venture that's probably it. ;)
<baweaver>
I tend to be highly wary of people that cite their favorite language as Java
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<choke>
lol, as well you should
<baweaver>
They write some nasty JS/Ruby
<choke>
just like people who say that .net is the best
<baweaver>
It's better than Java
<hanmac1>
for the ones who are interested about: Enumerable#grep_v got added to ruby! ;P
<Nilium>
I'm wary mostly of people who cite their favorite language as Javascript.
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<Nilium>
Doesn't bode well for me when people try to introduce yet more node.js stuff into our systems.
<baweaver>
hanmac1: explain?
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<Nilium>
'Cause guess who has to maintain it when they finally give up >_>
<havenwood>
-v, --invert-match Selected lines are those not matching any of the specified patterns.
<baweaver>
ah
<baweaver>
unix
<baweaver>
derp
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<baweaver>
Friday is almost here.... So close.
<havenwood>
hanmac1: \o/
<choke>
Nilium, be more wary when interviewing someone and they cite jquery as a language ( happens to me a lot )
<havenwood>
baweaver: Friday!
<Nilium>
choke: Ha, we had a guy who sent sample code plagiarized from w3schools PHP tutorials.
<havenwood>
I can taste it.
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<baweaver>
Not quite here yet.
<Nilium>
jquery as a language wouldn't even get by.
<havenwood>
Tick tock.
<baweaver>
choke: Had a guy claim to know Rails but barely knew Ruby. Told him to reverse a string in JS, took him 30 minutes
<baweaver>
and that was after hints and correcting his for loop and reminding him of what the web console was.
<choke>
oh god Nilium... i haven't had that one, but did have one send code ( and a link to his github )... reviewed the code ( objective-c) and it looked good... go to his github, and the repo is forked, and diff the two, 0 changes
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<Nilium>
Yeah, haven't seen that yet.
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<baweaver>
Same guy used smily faces on his resume
<choke>
I know rails! ( okay not really, i'm still learning actually )
<Nilium>
Have seen at least one person who'd been coding for a few months and sent along a GitHub account full of apps that all followed the exact same template/mould that he'd learned from some node.js/MongoDB bootcamp
<choke>
smiley faces? i would have stopped reading lol
<baweaver>
Still wondering how the everloving hell that got through HR to a required phone interview....
<mwlang>
why’d he even make it in for the interview?? :-o
<baweaver>
Good question
<baweaver>
one I wish I could answer
<baweaver>
but could not begin to grasp at
<Nilium>
I had to figure out a nice way to say that I'm sure he's eager but the lack of any diversity in what he did was troubling
<Nilium>
Plus the whole experience issue
<choke>
The best ones I get, and i really enjoy these, are people applying for iOS developer positions who submit code written in any other language than obj-c or swift
<Nilium>
Which I try to be sort of generous about since this is literally my first full-time programming job and the only thing I have going for me is like 12 years of doing it as a hobby
<baweaver>
But RubyMotion and PhoneGap/Cordova!
<mwlang>
his salary requirement must’ve been spot on for HR
<Nilium>
And 12 years sounds like a decent number but good luck getting the hobby part past HR
<baweaver>
20+ years experience apparently
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<Nilium>
I'll accept RubyMotion. I'll actually mark someone down for PhoneGap.
<Nilium>
If you like PhoneGap, you're already not someone I want to know.
<choke>
haven't heard much about rubymotion really, at least in full production... phonegap, i don't think is a viable solution for anything more than toying around
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<mwlang>
whatever happened to bio diversity?
<Nilium>
I have a RubyMotion license and it's really interesting. It's basically just compiled MacRuby, but not quite.
<Nilium>
Easier way to think of it is that it's Ruby basic classes plus the Obj-C runtime and otherwise you'd write the same code as in Obj-C.
<Nilium>
Metaprogramming is considerably harder because of what it is.
<choke>
Once i get a new job, i'll have to look at getting at minimum the indie rubymotion license and playing around with it... could come in handy building the mobile app for my social network :D
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<Nilium>
Still haven't actually used RubyMotion for anything much though. Just small test things and some tools.
<Nilium>
It's kind of hard to recommend now what with Swift.
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<choke>
Yeah, our app @ work is being re-worked completely in swift atm
<Nilium>
We don't have an app, just an SDK, so our use for Swift is limited outside of internal test apps and what-not
<Nilium>
*SDKs
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<choke>
We don't really have an app either haha... It was built and about 4 hours away from submitting to the store, and the owner of our company decided to scrap the entire thing. hire a new designer to re-design it, hire a new developer to help with development ( dev still hasnt started ) and wants a fully working version submitted to the store by the middle of next month...
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<Nilium>
I was hired as a junior iOS dev and the entire thing ended up being some web app thing, so I'm vaguely familiar with that process.
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<Nilium>
I guess everyone learned not to let me near UIs and stuck me on backend stuff.
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<Nilium>
Though I also said I would rather be put on projects that need devs than be put on a specific team, so I get moved around a lot. This has made it hard to explain what I do to new employees.
<Nilium>
That last sentence is unfortunately grammatically ambiguous in a bad way.
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<shock_one>
Hi. I vaguely remember there was a method in Ruby to check if an object has been "sanitized". Like every object coming from the outside world is dirty by default, and you can somehow check that it's valid and then mark it as clean. Am I confusing Ruby with some other language?
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<hanmac1>
shock_one: do you mean ".tainted?" ?
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<Nilium>
Never rely on taintedness.
<shock_one>
hanmac1: yes, thank you.
<shock_one>
Nilium: why?
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<Nilium>
It's not actually useful for anything and isn't a security feature.
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<shock_one>
Nilium: I'm having a URL coming from outside which then goes through a long a complicated path. Along this path it should be validated. Validation in my case is expensive, the path has many ins and outs, and I need to guarantee that it's valid. So, I'd like to remember that I validated the URL, and it looks like tainted or trusted is a built-in mechanism for what I'd do myself otherwise.
<Nilium>
I'd suggest you do it yourself.
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<shock_one>
Nilium: I appreciate your advice, but could you be so kind to tell me the reasoning behind it?
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<Nilium>
It's midnight and I'm about to go to sleep, so the best I can suggest is reading up on Object#taint
<Nilium>
That taintedness is dependent on a safety level should be concern enough, though
<St1gma>
You could also use a regex to validate that the different things that you want to allow are in place and nothing else
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<St1gma>
If you are talking about Rails then there are a few methods, in Sinatra you got some methods deriving from Rack. For ruby itlself I would do the regex and compare that to your string in a boolean type method
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<shock_one>
St1gma: we need stronger guarantees. Structurally correct URL can still be invalid.
<St1gma>
that is correct, do if you want to validate the whole URL then you want to first validate that it has the correct protocol, then fqdn, then URI
<St1gma>
Wouldn't the web server validate "structurally correct but invalid" URIs?
<St1gma>
where http://mysite.com/invalid/uri - should return an HTTP404 or 403 depending on how you have that configured
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<St1gma>
in rails you would have to have a route for each of the valid URI schemes (same for Sinatra) so the framework takes care of those that aren't valid, wouldn't they?
<shock_one>
St1gma: Let's say a URL following which with a particular set of headers and GET parameters, which returns HTTP 200 with JSON { "error": "property does not exists" } should be invalid.
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<shock_one>
And it's not a URL to a website I can control.
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<St1gma>
So the website returns this error to you?
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<shock_one>
St1gma: It might. The point is that I need to perform an HTTP request to validate the URL.
<apeiros>
hanmac1: interesting. I have Regexp#~ for that :D (though, not as generic as grep_v)
<mikecmpbll>
zilberstein: might be the `-` characters your using on the erb tags?
<apeiros>
i.e. I have code like: enum.grep(~/regex/)
<apeiros>
which acts like enum.grep_v(/regex/)
<zilberstein>
mikecmpbll, what is the correct way to use loop in template ?
<mikecmpbll>
i can only say from a rails perspective, but they've been obsolete for a while in that sphere.
<mikecmpbll>
zilberstein: just with plain erb tags.
* zotherstupidguy
favourite uncle < apeiros >
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<apeiros>
zilberstein: are you using plain ruby or ruby on rails?
<hanmac1>
apeiros: the ticket also did comment about a regexp.invert but it was not generic enough and didnt work in all of the cases, so a grep_v variant was better
<zilberstein>
apeiros, I use puppet
<mikecmpbll>
zilberstein: did you try it yet? will take like 10 seconds to try it and then we can iterate ..
<apeiros>
zilberstein: ok. assuming puppet uses plain ERB - rails added some stuff to ERB. so some things you find on the net regarding ERB only work with rails. iirc trailing - was one of them
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<zotherstupidguy>
RbConfig::CONFIG["SHELL"] returns Bash even though i am using ZSH?
<apeiros>
zilberstein: uuuh
<apeiros>
zilberstein: also ruby does not use {} with if
<mikecmpbll>
that's not ruby code
<apeiros>
oh, d'uh, that's not ruby code
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<mikecmpbll>
lel :d
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<zilberstein>
apeiros, This is a perl script that I need to generate with ruby template
<mikecmpbll>
zilberstein: DID YOU TRY IT YET?
* mikecmpbll
calms himself down
<mikecmpbll>
hehehe. it's friday tho
<adaedra>
file.pl.erb
<apeiros>
zilberstein: anyway, remove the - as mikecmpbll already said
* zotherstupidguy
wonders if there is a tool that figures out syntax and delegate it to the correct complier!
<zilberstein>
mikecmpbll, (erb):28: undefined method `each' for nil:NilClass (NoMethodError)
<mikecmpbll>
ok, so no longer a syntax error.
<mikecmpbll>
`@resnotoff_trigger_map` is nil
<apeiros>
so probably @resnotoff_trigger_map is nil
* apeiros
retreats, mikecmpbll got this :)
<mikecmpbll>
this is more my level, for sure
* zotherstupidguy
goodbyes his favourite uncle
<zilberstein>
mikecmpbll, I was under impression that ruby uses context of function, where template used
<zilberstein>
and it passes variables from that context
<mikecmpbll>
context of function? template? going to need to zoom out a bit on that code, i've no idea what context is
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<mikecmpbll>
oh okay
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<apeiros>
zilberstein: no. ruby does not do that.
<apeiros>
zilberstein: frameworks using erb as part of their chain may (like rails), but ruby does not.
<mikecmpbll>
idd
<apeiros>
Iodine Deficiency Disorders?
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<mikecmpbll>
or "indeed" :D
<apeiros>
aha!
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<ddfreyne>
Hm, #grep_v is an odd name. I get that it comes from `grep -v`, but still.
<apeiros>
ddfreyne: I have the same feeling.
<zilberstein>
mikecmpbll, ah I see, ruby developers often do not care learning low level stuff. So every time you call a function, so-called context switch happens. This means interpreter switches to another address space ( CPU changes registers ). In that context you have local variables defined.
<apeiros>
though, I wonder from where the name grep actually stems
<ddfreyne>
I didn't know about #grep. My ItemCollection#find_all(pattern) should probably be #grep rather than #find_all.
<mikecmpbll>
zilberstein: I wasn't saying that I didn't understand how ruby works
<mikecmpbll>
zilberstein: i was saying I don't understand the context of your use of ERB
<mikecmpbll>
but thanks for the lesson none-the-less ;)
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<zotherstupidguy>
apeiros my fav uncle, (globally search a regular expression and print) grep
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<apeiros>
zotherstupidguy: yay! thanks. TIL :)
<apeiros>
so in ruby, it should actually be gsor or somesuch (globally search a [matching] object and return)
<apeiros>
personally I'd probably have called it Enumerable#matches or similar
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<ddfreyne>
#find_matching?
<zotherstupidguy>
#get_me_what_i_think_i_want
<ddfreyne>
Without the question mark, obviously. Although I suppose that is too close to #find, which returns only a single result.
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<yxhuvud>
apeiros: I could see it as an argument to #select - if given an argument it could match using ===.
<ddfreyne>
#select_matching, maybe. I suppose #matches is too regex-y.
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<adaedra>
#what_the_hell_are_you_doing
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<apeiros>
yxhuvud: would also have grep_v already - reject
<zotherstupidguy>
Darkwater what is "ex command set"
<Darkwater>
no idea
<apeiros>
deus ex command set?
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<zotherstupidguy>
apeiros i think so.. still reading
<zotherstupidguy>
Darkwater any tips on using ed, i read H is good to get help comments rightaway (instead of saving terminal cycles)
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<Darkwater>
I didn't even know about H until now
<Darkwater>
I just speak vimlang and figured out a few ed basics by trial/error
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<zotherstupidguy>
Darkwater it appears that ed was kinda perfect for assembly work
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<Darkwater>
well, for any serious work I'd still use the latest from ed/ex/vi/vim where possible, but I do occasionally use ed for lightning-fast operations such as removing a line
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<Darkwater>
in other works, I really only use it to remove a conflicting key from .ssh/known_hosts :v
<Darkwater>
$ ed
<Darkwater>
12d
<Darkwater>
wq
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<Darkwater>
done
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<zotherstupidguy>
Darwater how open a file? ed filename?
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<adaedra>
man ed
<Darkwater>
yo ed sup
<Darkwater>
zotherstupidguy: yes
<Darkwater>
also, use tab completion next time so you don't misspell my name :v
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<adaedra>
:v
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<bMalum>
does anyone know a goot ruby gem for Downloading large Files from an API - i know only some cul wrappers and typhoeus but the last one cant show atm the download spped
<bMalum>
*speed
<apeiros>
bMalum: any http library where you can stream the body yourself can be used to show the download speed
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<bMalum>
apeiros - any recomms for an good library
<apeiros>
I don't know however whether there are any libraries which background the streaming for you and provide access to metrics about the ongoing download
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<apeiros>
I usually stick with net/http. but my needs are simple.
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<bMalum>
apeiros thank oyu for your quick reply
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<apeiros>
you're welcome
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<apeiros>
bMalum: ruby-toolbox.com has probably a ranked list of http libraries
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<adaedra>
bMalum: curb seems to do that
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<bMalum>
adaedra: just found curb too
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<atmosx>
Hello
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<Darkwater>
hi
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<vikaton>
hi
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<lthomas>
morning
<lthomas>
anyone know how I can transform [“a”, 1] to {a: 1}?
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<lthomas>
I thought zip might work, not so
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<lthomas>
seems like there would be a method for that, w/o using a transform function like reduce
<apeiros>
lthomas: .to_h
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<lthomas>
How can I eval ruby in here?
<apeiros>
>> ["h", 1].to_h
<ruboto>
apeiros # => wrong element type String at 0 (expected array) (TypeError) ...check link for more (https://eval.in/361068)
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<lthomas>
>> ["a", 1].to_h
<ruboto>
lthomas # => wrong element type String at 0 (expected array) (TypeError) ...check link for more (https://eval.in/361069)
<apeiros>
ah, d'uh. needs array of key/value arrays
<ruboto>
gregf_ # => /tmp/execpad-7e8b05dbe316/source-7e8b05dbe316:2: warning: wrong element type String at 0 (expected a ...check link for more (https://eval.in/361071)
<apeiros>
gregf_: that's where you preferably use .to_h
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<apeiros>
lthomas: btw., {a: 1} is {:a => 1}, not {"a" => 1}
<lthomas>
true
<apeiros>
so if you also want to convert string keys to symbols, you need an additional step
<lthomas>
I don’t care about symbols atm
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<lthomas>
I was really just looking for a way to convert an array of 2 elements to a assoc map
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<apeiros>
lthomas: errr, what? always 2?
<apeiros>
{ary.first => ary.last}
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<apeiros>
though I really wonder about the use case of such a thing…
<lthomas>
right, you can do that, I thought there was a method on the array class that did the same thing
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<adaedra>
Mmmh
<adaedra>
Classic SQL or MongoDB?
<adaedra>
Choices, choices...
<apeiros>
ask yorick in #ruby-lang about that
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<apeiros>
classic sql btw. in 99% of all cases.
<adaedra>
there's a reason behind that choice?
<Darkwater>
it's a per-application choice
<Darkwater>
mostly
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<apeiros>
adaedra: there's only one class of problems where document type db's are viable - when you really don't care about what you store
<apeiros>
in all other cases you will end up with a reinvention of schema anyway
<adaedra>
mmh
<apeiros>
and even when you don't care about what you store, db's like pg are still the better choice. you can store json or xml in there just fine too
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<apeiros>
and regarding scaling - what are the chances you actually have a problem which outscales pg?
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<adaedra>
oh, it's not about that
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<adaedra>
it's a personal project mainly
<apeiros>
well, you didn't say what it is about. and the two common points are "no schema" and "scales!"
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<apeiros>
and IMO both are in most cases simply not valid pro-mongo points.
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<adaedra>
I'm making myself a little blog platform
<adaedra>
I was wondering about what to put as a DB, and being stuck at that, found interesting to see what is to be said here :)
<apeiros>
I usually recommend either sqlite or pg
<apeiros>
sqlite's main weakness is poor concurrent behavior
<adaedra>
I'm used to MySQL, have only little knowledge of the other ones
<apeiros>
pg's main weakness is operational complexity
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<apeiros>
mysql is ugh
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<apeiros>
see stuff like utf-8 issues, no transactions in default engine, no query planer and more
<adaedra>
for the uses cases I had until now it was enough :<
<adaedra>
but yeah, I know it's not optimal
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<apeiros>
try storing an emoticon in mysql…
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<apeiros>
it's easy to hit one of mysql's issues.
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<adaedra>
yeah, I know, utf8mb4
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<TheNet>
is there a term for stdout stdin and stderr collectively?
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<Darkwater>
TheNet: standard file descriptors I guess?
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<TheNet>
let
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<jackcom>
there is a ruby tutorial on web?
<TheNet>
jackcom: codecademy?
<jackcom>
8)
<jackcom>
thanks ;)
<adaedra>
jackcom: lots of
<jimms>
jackcom: what's your level? there's also tryruby.org
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<jackcom>
i learned c in the University.
<jackcom>
jimms:
<dudedudeman>
learn ruby the hard way might be good if you need to have something that isn't as interactive
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<jackcom>
dudedudeman: thanks
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<dudedudeman>
it's one of those exercise/teaching books that forces you to type everything out. i've seen mixed reviews on it, but i enjoyed them for the get up and go with them
<jackcom>
i remember some ruby book of red apple. but i can’t remember it.
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<jackcom>
i don’t remember ruby book that have cover of red apple tree
<jackcom>
who know it?
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<adaedra>
Google maybe
<jackcom>
yes
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<adaedra>
Be careful about books though, not to take a too old one.
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<dudedudeman>
the pickaxe book is a standard as well
<jackcom>
oh thanks
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<jackcom>
Learn to Program (Pragmatic Programmers) <—— i find it finally dudedudeman
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<dudedudeman>
nice!
<dudedudeman>
oh wait.. he already gone
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<dudedudeman>
does anyone know a good way to sort a postgres database, outside of rails?
<dudedudeman>
i'm doing some googling and everything just points me to rails. :/
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<gregf_>
dudedudeman: sort a pg db? or sort data in a pg db table?
<dudedudeman>
good point. sort data in a pg db table
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<dudedudeman>
i want to find my last 10 entries, entries that were entered in the last week, how many there were, that kind of thing
<gregf_>
er, not sure if thats related to ruby. i guess you;ll get better answers in #pg or <whatever> :/
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<gregf_>
there should be a limit or something in pg. like so, select * from table order by created_date desc limit 10 or soemthing similar :/
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<dudedudeman>
well, i guess i can do(where x is the class i'm saving to) x.last('10')
<dudedudeman>
that gives me all of the values of that entry in a hash
<dudedudeman>
(currently sandboxing in irb)
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<gregf_>
using activerecord you mean?
<dudedudeman>
yes! I should have clarified that.
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<gregf_>
have you asked on #ror
<dudedudeman>
there's a rails guide for that. probably worth following..
<dudedudeman>
no, i haven't, though I am not working on a Rails app
<havenwood>
dudedudeman: A bunch of Sequel gem love here. <3
<dudedudeman>
havenwood: i need to dig in and try that.
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<dudedudeman>
though it does look like activerecord gives me a lot of methods to play with here, at least ones that will work for my purposes.
<dudedudeman>
i'm working on just building some metrics in to my app
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<lthomas>
dudedudeman: how’s it going
<lthomas>
what are you reporting?
<dudedudeman>
lthomas: sup!
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<lthomas>
metrics wise
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<dudedudeman>
oh, well, i have monitors, and they need to be calibrated. so i will be wanting to report how many were calibrated that day, how many were calibrated that week, and which monitors need to be calibrated that week(based on a 3 month cycle). I'll also eventually need to eventually send email reminders of the monitors that need to be calibrated
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<dudedudeman>
which i'd be using the mail gem for that
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<TheNet>
is StringIO#gets supposed to be blocking?
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<eam>
TheNet: I'm not sure that question makes sense
<TheNet>
me neither
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<dudedudeman>
i understood some of those words
<eam>
TheNet: what are you asking?
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<eam>
or, what does "blocking" mean to you?
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<TheNet>
how can I redirect $stdout so I can do something like $stdout.gets instead of it putting to STDOUT
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<TheNet>
blocking as in the call blocks until it has something to return
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<eam>
you want to redirect stdout to another descriptor?
<TheNet>
I think so
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<eam>
TheNet: see #reopen on IO, perhaps?
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<eam>
TheNet: BTW, $stdout and STDOUT are the same object
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<TheNet>
I can set $stdout to a new StringIO, right?
<TheNet>
and still use STDOUT.puts
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<EllisTAA>
ruby is an interpreted language right? could it be made into a compiled language?
<Senjai>
our clients CTO is much worse
<apeiros>
EllisTAA: interpreted/compiled is not a language property
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<apeiros>
EllisTAA: MRI (the de-facto standard runtime for ruby) is a interpreter/bytecode vm
<EllisTAA>
apeiros: so it’s not a language property, then what is it?
<apeiros>
Senjai: oy
<Senjai>
EllisTAA: Ruby is a language. there is an interpreter that interprets the language and executes it. Yes ruby can be compiled
<apeiros>
EllisTAA: a property of the runtime
<apeiros>
EllisTAA: is C a compiled language?
<EllisTAA>
gotcha. thanks. so why did they choose to make it interpreted instead of compiled?
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<apeiros>
because tradeoffs
<EllisTAA>
oh ok
<hakunin>
wonder if I can hardcode dns resolution in ruby, like injecting a hosts file with higher "precedence" than /etc/hosts
<hanmac>
an interpreted language can be way more dynamic than a compiled one
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<EllisTAA>
apeiros: are the tradoffs that interpreting it allows it to be more dynamic?
<ebonics>
hakunin, with ruby alone i dont think thats possible
<hakunin>
ebonics: just for a specific script being run
<apeiros>
EllisTAA: I might not know enough about building languages for a good assessment. but yes, it's probably easier.
<EllisTAA>
apeiros: thanks
<ebonics>
hakunin, you would have to hook some OS functions
<hakunin>
yeah…
<ebonics>
or use a proxy
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<hakunin>
ebonics: i'm trying to do a simple thing where there's a shared list of deployment targets auto-downloaded, so devs don't have to edit their hosts file when I change servers
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<ebonics>
hakunin, you can do that with ruby, but you wont be able to bypass hosts file with just ruby i think
<hakunin>
ebonics: i could just use ip addresses of course…
<ebonics>
hakunin, why does your app need higher precedence than /etc/hosts
<ebonics>
hakunin, you could, yeah. but that's not relevant to dns
<hakunin>
ebonics: you know how in capistrano you have stages, and you list your servers there?
<ebonics>
no
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<hakunin>
ebonics: then it's not a super quick explanation
<ebonics>
i understand what you want to do
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<ebonics>
i dont understand why you need to bypass hosts file though
<hakunin>
ebonics: not exactly bypass
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<hakunin>
just when i add a new server to our stack
<hakunin>
devs don't have it in their /etc/hosts
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<hakunin>
and i don't want them to have to add it before they can deploy
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<hakunin>
instead i want deploy script we have to download the current server list, and have it all work
<ebonics>
hakunin, im not sure what capinwhatever does but you could have one server with a static ip that keeps track of your nodes that could be queried
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<hakunin>
that's where the server list comes from yeah
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<hakunin>
i can set it up as a dns server i guess, but thought there's a simpler way
<hakunin>
ebonics: ^
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<ebonics>
hakunin, im not sure i understand your use case exactly. what does your application do exactly
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<hakunin>
it's a web app
<hakunin>
you deploy it to multiple servers
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<ebonics>
does it use normal http
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<hakunin>
yes, but that's irrelevant for the deployment process
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<ebonics>
well it would be different if it used websockets
<hakunin>
that doesn't affect deployment
<hakunin>
i'm just uploading files to servers
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<ebonics>
it affects how you have to approach sending back the deployed hosts/ips
<hakunin>
through ssh or scp, it doesn't have to be coming from the front end
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<ebonics>
i think the _easiest_ way is to just setup nameservers
<ebonics>
idk what could be easier than thtat
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<hakunin>
yeah…
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<hakunin>
thanks, i guess i need to make that 1 known machine a dns servers
<hakunin>
*server
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<hakunin>
i guess what would be ideal is if a ruby script could create a temporary/ephemeral dns server with hardcoded host => ip mappings, for the duration of the script run
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<hakunin>
with_custom_dns_resolution { # a bunch of code }
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<eam>
10:46 < hakunin> wonder if I can hardcode dns resolution in ruby, like injecting a hosts file with higher "precedence" than /etc/hosts
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<eam>
hakunin: the library you're interested in is libnss
<eam>
nsswitch.conf configures what kind of resolution systems you're using and their precedence
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<eam>
if you want to mess with it, LD_PRELOAD your own libnss
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<hakunin>
eam: huh, thanks
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<Psi-Jack>
orionstein_away: Please... Don't do that.
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<orionstein>
sorry, i'll turn it off again
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<shevy>
orionstein onionstein!
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<orionstein>
almost onion
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<s2013>
what am i doing wrong? when ir un the code, it just exits
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<GaryOak_>
s2013: what is the delay var you are passing to sleep?
<yxhuvud>
s2013: you get an exception in the thread, which you don't catch (which is then silently supressed by ruby), and then it exits since there isn't more to do
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<certainty>
adaedra: it is, if they are exchangeable for your usecase
<havenwood>
yxhuvud: You can set `RUBYGEMS_GEMDEPS=-` to autodetect the Gemfile (or the new preferred gem.deps.rb) and activate those gems.
<yxhuvud>
havenwood: oh, nice.
<s2013>
GaryOak_ and yxhuvud so what i need to do?
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<s2013>
oh
<s2013>
nvm
<havenwood>
yxhuvud: Or point RUBYGEMS_GEMDEPS at a specific file if you don't want autoswitching.
<s2013>
now i get invalid access mode w
<toretore>
invalid access mode w'
<s2013>
oh
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<s2013>
yay
<s2013>
thanks
<toretore>
and you're not joining the thread
<jhass>
adaedra: bundler is not reimplementing rubygems, it's delegating to it and providing additional features on top
<certainty>
interesting, i just read about that in the documentation
<toretore>
you need to read up on how threads work
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<adaedra>
jhass: I just find the current situation a bit silly. It's personal, and I coped with it for the time being, though. However, it's nice to see that they are going forward to unify things with rubygems.
<yxhuvud>
toretore: yes, but that description fits every rails project. trying to figure out what set of gems an app needed was less than fun.
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<toretore>
yxhuvud: oh yeah, for rails i do use it as it is there by default..
<toretore>
as a sort of manifest it's valuable
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<s2013>
k got it thanks
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<toretore>
k
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<shevy>
damn
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<shevy>
File.readlines has :encoding => 'ascii-8bit'
<shevy>
YAML.load_file() does not
<shevy>
which makes sense, as only UTF-8 and UTF-16 would be valid I assume
<shevy>
but that limits me
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<haylon>
Hello #ruby. I seem to be running into an issue with URI and MiniTest. I can run my Gem by hand, and the gem executes and shows my HTTP Response code. However, MiniTest causes URI to say that the same URL that was copied and pasted is not a valid URL. Is there some funky gotchya with MiniTest that I'm not aware of?
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<haylon>
Then if I encode the URL, then URI says that gsub is not a known method
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<weaksauce>
shevy what's wrong with the docs in your opinion?
<shevy>
weaksauce I found many of them substandard english, incomplete or useless
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<bfrantz>
hi. im trying to install ruby headers/libs on rhel7.1. on rhel6.6 i could just yum install ruby-devel. that option seems have left in rhel7. anyone know if their is a package on rhel7 that provides what ruby-devel did? any other pointers welcome :)
<weaksauce>
shevy main docs or gems?
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<shevy>
weaksauce nah, gems are even worse but that's not the responsibility of the core team, gem authors are responsible for the docu of their gems
<dudedudeman>
showed me code mentor some stuff today at work and he loved it. it was encouraging
<shevy>
cool
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<shevy>
is that an alternative system to rdoc weaksauce?
<weaksauce>
that's a call to action for all of us to help out documenting ruby ;)
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<shevy>
ah well
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<shevy>
how do the python guys do document their stuff?
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<weaksauce>
well python is less dynamic than ruby is and there is generally "one true way" to do things
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<GaryOak_>
ugh python docs are a travesty
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<GaryOak_>
The official docs are weirdly topic based
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<shevy>
well yeah
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<shevy>
a bit like a poem
<shevy>
written by a dictator
<shevy>
it has the flow, but not the beauty
<shevy>
whereas in ruby, someone like the dudedudeman was always thinking "I'm gonna write up some docu ... but not today, today I will enjoy the sunshine"
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<dudedudeman>
yes. yes please. sunshine
<shevy>
hahaha
<dudedudeman>
or, hell, why not even docs in sunshine
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<dudedudeman>
ah, we're comparing documents. i like to think of rappers. ruby docs are something like eminem, with clever flow and syntax. python docs are as if lil' wayne tried to rap with a cat clawing at his tonsils
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<shevy>
I hate eminem
<shevy>
I like cats though
<shevy>
can we settle for a cat-rapper?
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<shevy>
DJ Mike the cat
<dudedudeman>
garfield, that cattiest rapper of them all
<shevy>
oh wait... a DJ is not a rapper...
<dudedudeman>
DJ mike the cat.
<dudedudeman>
YOU ARE RIGHT
<shevy>
I wasn't thinking!
<shevy>
a rapper is like a MC right?
<shevy>
those rhetoric battles
<shevy>
hmm
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<shevy>
Eric B. and Rakim
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<dudedudeman>
i like to think of the great rap power duo, bob and tony
<dudedudeman>
may they rest in peace
<shevy>
Thinking how could I get some dead presidents
<shevy>
I need money, I used to be a stick-up kid.
<shevy>
don't know them
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<shevy>
though I am a child of the 80s and 90s
<dudedudeman>
they don't exist. lol. i don't know any rap music really.
<shevy>
ok good!
<shevy>
that's right
<shevy>
you are the dude
<shevy>
you must know bongo ganja music
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<dudedudeman>
i know a bit of ganja music, but not because of ganja usage of my own. i used to FOH for tours, so you see a lot of things when yo udo that...
<GaryOak_>
I listen to the funky dub at work
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<dudedudeman>
like, good old dubstep?
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<GaryOak_>
good old dub
<dudedudeman>
have you checked out seven lions?
<GaryOak_>
this better not be swedish dubstep!
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<dudedudeman>
no, he's american!
<GaryOak_>
:|
<dudedudeman>
am i allowed to post a link here?
<dudedudeman>
i think he's american...
<GaryOak_>
major lazer, now that's where it's at
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<shevy>
funky dub? hmm
<shevy>
I liked that old thing... "soul train"
<shevy>
the dudes there were doing crazy ass moves
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<shevy>
my physical entity can no longer perform those basic moves :(
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<Kortes>
x_x yep
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<haylon>
GaryOak_ I'm not sure why, because I did it without the URI.encode(uri) bit, and hten with it, and I get the bad URI, or gsub is NoMethodError
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<hololeap>
does anyone know of a gem that provides an object like Queue, but has a redis backend? i looked at resque and it seems to be more for background jobs. i need the same functionality as Queue