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<manzo>
This may be a stupid question, but someone can tell me why the method []= is private for the Matrix class?
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<atmosx>
manzo: probably because it's for the best. You must ask the developer for the specifics
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<xcyclist>
Say, is there a specific room I should join to ask a Rails question?
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<havenwood>
xcyclist: #rubyonrails, nick reg is req to speak
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<xcyclist>
Ok. I will try. My xcyclist should be properly registered. Thank you.
<shevy>
manzo perhaps some other method calls it
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<manzo>
atmosx: thanks, I was just wondering if someone around here would know the reason... Looking at the code this is from 2005
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<manzo>
shevy: looking at the code on matrix.rb they may be called from wthin the class by methods like zero or diagonal... Maybe it has something to do with the semanthics of the initialization methods that I cited and others... I'm just guessing, but maybe making them public should not break anything that is not the semanthics
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<bricker`LA>
I have god monitoring about 20 resque workers, but "god terminate" doesn't kill all of them, and sometimes they don't restart at all, even when a condition is met. The PIDs are configured correctly. I have increased the terminate timeout, but it doesn't help. If I manually send a QUIT signal to individual processes, they die eventually. Using `pkill -QUIT resque` does not work. What should I be looking for?
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<j4jackj>
Please give some context
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<bricker`LA>
j4jackj: resque versions ranging from 1.23 to 1.26, ruby 2.1.1, god 0.13.4, ubuntu 12.03
<bricker`LA>
12.04*
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<mozzarella>
how can I delete ri and darkfish documentation?
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<j4jackj>
i should really learn Tcl again... ruby seems too complicated for my tastes :/
<Oog>
'hi there test@turi.com'.match(/(.*) ?<?([^<@>]+@[^<@>]+)>?/)
<Oog>
i think it should match
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<claw>
http://paste.triple6.org/?21 anybody can tell me where my misstake is? i have a array of x and y cordinate and a class Char where every chare has a instance variable @position
<claw>
the method walk lets them walk to their enemy ( battle system )
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<claw>
every char has a @team ( id )
<claw>
but the chars move with whole team instead of their own
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<claw>
e.g. if member1 from team1 moves from 59,52 to 58,51 then member2 from team1 moves from 58,51 to 57,50
<claw>
so position is shared
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<claw>
and i dont know why because @position is a instance of char not of team ( team isnt even a class )
<sdegutis>
I shoved a Ruby script into my OS X app's build phase to generate a docs.json file from my app's private source code which gets copied to the app itself so ti can use it at runtime.
<sdegutis>
Just reporting that it was pleasant and works like a charm.
<havenwood>
nice
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<arrubin>
Hanmac: Line 10 is never executed though.
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<Hanmac>
hm yeah and that too, but ruby detects that you want to set a local variable
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<arrubin>
Also, is there some reason to prefer self.bar to @bar?
<sdegutis>
Although to be fair, it's a really ugly Ruby file. It's very ad-hoc and it shows.
<havenwood>
arrubin: but generally don't worry about such things, they rarely come up
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<sdegutis>
I see that in Lua a lot too.
<sdegutis>
(It's even faster in Lua than in Ruby.)
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<sdegutis>
My wife thinks of Luau every time I say Lua.
<havenwood>
moooon
<havenwood>
harvest moon tonight
<sdegutis>
That's what I said too!
<sdegutis>
Oh wait yeah that.
* sdegutis
looks
<havenwood>
mruby!
<havenwood>
lua envy inspired..
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<arrubin>
havenwood: I only asked because both you and Hanmac used self.bar.
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<sdegutis>
havenwood: Every time I look at mruby I can't help but wonder why not just use Lua.
<havenwood>
arrubin: Just to show the binding to the bar you were looking for. But @bar.
<Hanmac>
like if you have a speciffic setter method, like doing some convert in the obj.foo = bar, them you need to use self.foo = bar inside your method otherwise you cant call that setter method from the inside
<havenwood>
sdegutis: because... ruby!
<sdegutis>
Ruby in itself is lame, it's the standard libraries that make it useful.
<arrubin>
havenwood, Hanmac: Thank you both.
<sdegutis>
And the fact that it comes with my Mac pre-installed.
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<sdegutis>
Hmm.
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<sdegutis>
Actually, I might want to embed mruby instead of Lua.
<sdegutis>
More people seem to know Ruby than Lua...
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<mozzarella>
people don't like 1-based indexes
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<sdegutis>
Nonsense. I do.
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<eam>
lua has 1 based indexes? I will continue to not use it
<sdegutis>
eam: Dumbest reason ever.
<sdegutis>
*Dumbest objection ever.
<eam>
surely not the dumbest
<eam>
"the name is too short" is an even dumber reason. Q.E.D.
<sdegutis>
It's up there.
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<eam>
I guess another reason is I find no practical applications for it
<eam>
but where's the fun in that
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<sdegutis>
eam: The best use-case for it is that it's way easier to embed into a C app than Ruby or Python.
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<sdegutis>
Although mruby looks like it may be viable.. I'm testing it out as we speak.
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<eam>
sdegutis: bullshit
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<eam>
python and ruby are both impossibly easy to embed
<sdegutis>
eam: I'm not making this up. I've actually done it.
<eam>
so have I (with ruby, and python)
<eam>
literally cannot be easier
<sdegutis>
Yes it can. Try embedding Lua, it's easier.
<eam>
ruby is three lines.
<sdegutis>
Anyway, when I embedded Ruby, it took up 20mb to include some of the stdlib in it.
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<eam>
#include <ruby.h>
<eam>
ruby_init();
<eam>
rb_eval_string("puts 'hello world'");
<sdegutis>
Yes I know how it works in code, like I said I've done it.
<sdegutis>
eam: Why do you think mruby exists?
<eam>
size concerns are different than how easy it is in terms of language complexity to embed
<eam>
"lua is lightweight" => yeah totally
<sdegutis>
It's also reentrant.
<sdegutis>
You can have multiple Lua states running in the same app.
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<sdegutis>
Ruby can't do that.
<Nowaker>
sdegutis: is 20 MB a minimum for every mruby app?
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<sdegutis>
Nowaker: No that was Ruby not mruby.
<sdegutis>
Nowaker: mruby doesn't really come with any kind of stdlib.
<havenwood>
(FizzBuzz program using only lambda calculus.)
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<sdegutis>
seems legit
<havenwood>
that is one reallllly long line of code...
<havenwood>
solution = -> k { -> f { -> f { -> x { f[-> y { x[x][y] }] }[-> x { f[-> y { x[x][y] }] }] }[-> f { -> l { -> x { -> g { -> b { b }[-> p { p[-> x { -> y { x } }] }[l]][x][-> y { g[f[-> l { -> p { p[-> x { -> y { y } }] }[-> p { p[-> x { -> y { y } }] }[l]] }[l]][x][g]][-> l { -> p { p[-> x { -> y { x } }] }[-> p { p[-> x { -> y { y } }] }[l]] }[l]][y] }] } } } }][k][-> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[-> x { -> y { x } }][-> x { -> y {
<havenwood>
x } }]][-> l { -> x { -> l { -> x { -> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[-> x { -> y { y } }][-> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[x][l]] } }[l][f[x]] } }] } }[-> f { -> x { f[-> y { x[x][y] }] }[-> x { f[-> y { x[x][y] }] }] }[-> f { -> m { -> n { -> b { b }[-> m { -> n { -> n { n[-> x { -> x { -> y { y } } }][-> x { -> y { x } }] }[-> m { -> n { n[-> n { -> p { p[-> x { -> y { x } }] }[n[-> p { -> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[-> p {
<havenwood>
p[-> x { -> y { y } }] }[p]][-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }[-> p { p[-> x { -> y { y } }] }[p]]] }][-> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[-> p { -> x { x } }][-> p { -> x { x } }]]] }][m] } }[m][n]] } }[m][n]][-> x { -> l { -> x { -> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[-> x { -> y { y } }][-> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[x][l]] } }[f[-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }[m]][n]][m][x] }][-> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[-> x { -
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<havenwood>
> y { x } }][-> x { -> y { x } }]] } } }][-> p { -> x { p[x] } }][-> p { -> x { p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[x]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] } }]][-> n { -> b { b }[-> n { n[-> x { -> x { -> y { y
<havenwood>
} } }][-> x { -> y { x } }] }[-> f { -> x { f[-> y { x[x][y] }] }[-> x { f[-> y { x[x][y] }] }] }[-> f { -> m { -> n { -> b { b }[-> m { -> n { -> n { n[-> x { -> x { -> y { y } } }][-> x { -> y { x } }] }[-> m { -> n { n[-> n { -> p { p[-> x { -> y { x } }] }[n[-> p { -> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[-> p { p[-> x { -> y { y } }] }[p]][-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }[-> p { p[-> x { -> y { y } }] }[p]]] }][-> x { -> y { -> f
<havenwood>
{ f[x][y] } } }[-> p { -> x { x } }][-> p { -> x { x } }]]] }][m] } }[m][n]] } }[n][m]][-> x { f[-> m { -> n { n[-> n { -> p { p[-> x { -> y { x } }] }[n[-> p { -> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[-> p { p[-> x { -> y { y } }] }[p]][-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }[-> p { p[-> x { -> y { y } }] }[p]]] }][-> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[-> p { -> x { x } }][-> p { -> x { x } }]]] }][m] } }[m][n]][n][x] }][m] } } }][n][-> p { ->
<sdegutis>
:|
<havenwood>
x { p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[p[x]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] } }]]][-> l { -> x { -> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[-> x { -> y { y } }][-> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[x][l]] } }[-> l { -> x { -> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[-> x { -> y { y } }][-> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[x][l]] } }[-> l { -> x { -> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[-> x { -> y { y } }][-> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[x][l]] } }[-> l { -> x { -> x { -> y { -> f
<havenwood>
{ f[x][y] } } }[-> x { -> y { y } }][-> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[x][l]] } }[-> l { -> x { -> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[-> x { -> y { y } }][-> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[x][l]] } }[-> l { -> x { -> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[-> x { -> y { y } }][-> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[x][l]] } }[-> l { -> x { -> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[-> x { -> y { y } }][-> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[x][l]] } }[-> l {
<havenwood>
-> x { -> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[-> x { -> y { y } }][-> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[x][l]] } }[-> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[-> x { -> y { x } }][-> x { -> y { x } }]][-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }[-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }[-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }[-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }[-> m { -> n { n[-> m { -> n { n[-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }][m] } }[m]][-> p { -> x { x
<sdegutis>
thanks havenwood
<havenwood>
} }] } }[-> p { -> x { p[p[x]] } }][-> p { -> x { p[p[p[p[p[x]]]]] } }]]]]]]][-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }[-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }[-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }[-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }[-> m { -> n { n[-> m { -> n { n[-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }][m] } }[m]][-> p { -> x { x } }] } }[-> p { -> x { p[p[x]] } }][-> p { -> x { p[p[p[p[p[x]]]]] } }]]]]]]][-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]]
<havenwood>
} } }[-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }[-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }[-> m { -> n { n[-> m { -> n { n[-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }][m] } }[m]][-> p { -> x { x } }] } }[-> p { -> x { p[p[x]] } }][-> p { -> x { p[p[p[p[p[x]]]]] } }]]]]]][-> m { -> n { n[-> m { -> n { n[-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }][m] } }[m]][-> p { -> x { x } }] } }[-> p { -> x { p[p[x]] } }][-> p { -> x { p[p[p[p[p[x]]]]] } }]]][-> n { ->
<sdegutis>
ur my hero
<havenwood>
p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }[-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }[-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }[-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }[-> m { -> n { n[-> m { -> n { n[-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }][m] } }[m]][-> p { -> x { x } }] } }[-> p { -> x { p[p[x]] } }][-> p { -> x { p[p[p[p[p[x]]]]] } }]]]]]]][-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }[-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }[-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }[-> n
<havenwood>
{ -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }[-> m { -> n { n[-> m { -> n { n[-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }][m] } }[m]][-> p { -> x { x } }] } }[-> p { -> x { p[p[x]] } }][-> p { -> x { p[p[p[p[p[x]]]]] } }]]]]]]][-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }[-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }[-> m { -> n { n[-> m { -> n { n[-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }][m] } }[m]][-> p { -> x { x } }] } }[-> p { -> x { p[p[x]] } }][-> p { -> x { p[p[p
<havenwood>
[p[p[x]]]]] } }]]]]][-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }[-> m { -> n { n[-> m { -> n { n[-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }][m] } }[m]][-> p { -> x { x } }] } }[-> p { -> x { p[p[x]] } }][-> p { -> x { p[p[p[p[p[x]]]]] } }]]]][-> b { b }[-> n { n[-> x { -> x { -> y { y } } }][-> x { -> y { x } }] }[-> f { -> x { f[-> y { x[x][y] }] }[-> x { f[-> y { x[x][y] }] }] }[-> f { -> m { -> n { -> b { b }[-> m { -> n { -> n { n[-> x { ->
<havenwood>
x { -> y { y } } }][-> x { -> y { x } }] }[-> m { -> n { n[-> n { -> p { p[-> x { -> y { x } }] }[n[-> p { -> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[-> p { p[-> x { -> y { y } }] }[p]][-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }[-> p { p[-> x { -> y { y } }] }[p]]] }][-> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[-> p { -> x { x } }][-> p { -> x { x } }]]] }][m] } }[m][n]] } }[n][m]][-> x { f[-> m { -> n { n[-> n { -> p { p[-> x { -> y { x } }] }[n[-> p { ->
<havenwood>
x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[-> p { p[-> x { -> y { y } }] }[p]][-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }[-> p { p[-> x { -> y { y } }] }[p]]] }][-> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[-> p { -> x { x } }][-> p { -> x { x } }]]] }][m] } }[m][n]][n][x] }][m] } } }][n][-> p { -> x { p[p[p[x]]] } }]]][-> l { -> x { -> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[-> x { -> y { y } }][-> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[x][l]] } }[-> l { -> x { -> x { -> y
<havenwood>
{ -> f { f[x][y] } } }[-> x { -> y { y } }][-> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[x][l]] } }[-> l { -> x { -> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[-> x { -> y { y } }][-> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[x][l]] } }[-> l { -> x { -> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[-> x { -> y { y } }][-> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[x][l]] } }[-> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[-> x { -> y { x } }][-> x { -> y { x } }]][-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }
<havenwood>
[-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }[-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }[-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }[-> m { -> n { n[-> m { -> n { n[-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }][m] } }[m]][-> p { -> x { x } }] } }[-> p { -> x { p[p[x]] } }][-> p { -> x { p[p[p[p[p[x]]]]] } }]]]]]]][-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }[-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }[-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }[-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] }
<havenwood>
} }[-> m { -> n { n[-> m { -> n { n[-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }][m] } }[m]][-> p { -> x { x } }] } }[-> p { -> x { p[p[x]] } }][-> p { -> x { p[p[p[p[p[x]]]]] } }]]]]]]][-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }[-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }[-> m { -> n { n[-> m { -> n { n[-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }][m] } }[m]][-> p { -> x { x } }] } }[-> p { -> x { p[p[x]] } }][-> p { -> x { p[p[p[p[p[x]]]]] } }]]]]][-> n {
<sdegutis>
<3
<havenwood>
-> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }[-> m { -> n { n[-> m { -> n { n[-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }][m] } }[m]][-> p { -> x { x } }] } }[-> p { -> x { p[p[x]] } }][-> p { -> x { p[p[p[p[p[x]]]]] } }]]]][-> b { b }[-> n { n[-> x { -> x { -> y { y } } }][-> x { -> y { x } }] }[-> f { -> x { f[-> y { x[x][y] }] }[-> x { f[-> y { x[x][y] }] }] }[-> f { -> m { -> n { -> b { b }[-> m { -> n { -> n { n[-> x { -> x { -> y { y } } }][-> x { -
<havenwood>
> y { x } }] }[-> m { -> n { n[-> n { -> p { p[-> x { -> y { x } }] }[n[-> p { -> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[-> p { p[-> x { -> y { y } }] }[p]][-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }[-> p { p[-> x { -> y { y } }] }[p]]] }][-> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[-> p { -> x { x } }][-> p { -> x { x } }]]] }][m] } }[m][n]] } }[n][m]][-> x { f[-> m { -> n { n[-> n { -> p { p[-> x { -> y { x } }] }[n[-> p { -> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] }
<havenwood>
} }[-> p { p[-> x { -> y { y } }] }[p]][-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }[-> p { p[-> x { -> y { y } }] }[p]]] }][-> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[-> p { -> x { x } }][-> p { -> x { x } }]]] }][m] } }[m][n]][n][x] }][m] } } }][n][-> p { -> x { p[p[p[p[p[x]]]]] } }]]][-> l { -> x { -> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[-> x { -> y { y } }][-> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[x][l]] } }[-> l { -> x { -> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } }
<havenwood>
}[-> x { -> y { y } }][-> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[x][l]] } }[-> l { -> x { -> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[-> x { -> y { y } }][-> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[x][l]] } }[-> l { -> x { -> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[-> x { -> y { y } }][-> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[x][l]] } }[-> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[-> x { -> y { x } }][-> x { -> y { x } }]][-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }[-> n { -> p { -> x {
<havenwood>
p[n[p][x]] } } }[-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }[-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }[-> m { -> n { n[-> m { -> n { n[-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }][m] } }[m]][-> p { -> x { x } }] } }[-> p { -> x { p[p[x]] } }][-> p { -> x { p[p[p[p[p[x]]]]] } }]]]]]]][-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }[-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }[-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }[-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }[-> m { -> n { n[-
<havenwood>
> m { -> n { n[-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }][m] } }[m]][-> p { -> x { x } }] } }[-> p { -> x { p[p[x]] } }][-> p { -> x { p[p[p[p[p[x]]]]] } }]]]]]]][-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }[-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }[-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }[-> m { -> n { n[-> m { -> n { n[-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }][m] } }[m]][-> p { -> x { x } }] } }[-> p { -> x { p[p[x]] } }][-> p { -> x { p[p[p[p[p[x]]]]]
<havenwood>
} }]]]]]][-> m { -> n { n[-> m { -> n { n[-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }][m] } }[m]][-> p { -> x { x } }] } }[-> p { -> x { p[p[x]] } }][-> p { -> x { p[p[p[p[p[x]]]]] } }]]][-> f { -> x { f[-> y { x[x][y] }] }[-> x { f[-> y { x[x][y] }] }] }[-> f { -> n { -> l { -> x { -> f { -> x { f[-> y { x[x][y] }] }[-> x { f[-> y { x[x][y] }] }] }[-> f { -> l { -> x { -> g { -> b { b }[-> p { p[-> x { -> y { x } }] }[l]][x][-> y { g[f[->
<havenwood>
l { -> p { p[-> x { -> y { y } }] }[-> p { p[-> x { -> y { y } }] }[l]] }[l]][x][g]][-> l { -> p { p[-> x { -> y { x } }] }[-> p { p[-> x { -> y { y } }] }[l]] }[l]][y] }] } } } }][l][-> l { -> x { -> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[-> x { -> y { y } }][-> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[x][l]] } }[-> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[-> x { -> y { x } }][-> x { -> y { x } }]][x]][-> l { -> x { -> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[-> x {
<sdegutis>
oh for a second i thought it was done
<havenwood>
-> y { y } }][-> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[x][l]] } }] } }[-> b { b }[-> m { -> n { -> n { n[-> x { -> x { -> y { y } } }][-> x { -> y { x } }] }[-> m { -> n { n[-> n { -> p { p[-> x { -> y { x } }] }[n[-> p { -> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[-> p { p[-> x { -> y { y } }] }[p]][-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }[-> p { p[-> x { -> y { y } }] }[p]]] }][-> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[-> p { -> x { x } }][-> p { -> x { x }
<havenwood>
}]]] }][m] } }[m][n]] } }[n][-> n { -> p { p[-> x { -> y { x } }] }[n[-> p { -> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[-> p { p[-> x { -> y { y } }] }[p]][-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }[-> p { p[-> x { -> y { y } }] }[p]]] }][-> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[-> p { -> x { x } }][-> p { -> x { x } }]]] }[-> m { -> n { n[-> m { -> n { n[-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }][m] } }[m]][-> p { -> x { x } }] } }[-> p { -> x { p[p[x]] }
<havenwood>
}][-> p { -> x { p[p[p[p[p[x]]]]] } }]]]][-> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[-> x { -> y { x } }][-> x { -> y { x } }]][-> x { f[-> f { -> x { f[-> y { x[x][y] }] }[-> x { f[-> y { x[x][y] }] }] }[-> f { -> m { -> n { -> b { b }[-> m { -> n { -> n { n[-> x { -> x { -> y { y } } }][-> x { -> y { x } }] }[-> m { -> n { n[-> n { -> p { p[-> x { -> y { x } }] }[n[-> p { -> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[-> p { p[-> x { -> y { y } }] }[p
<Nowaker>
havenwood: nice project mobiruby
<havenwood>
]][-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }[-> p { p[-> x { -> y { y } }] }[p]]] }][-> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[-> p { -> x { x } }][-> p { -> x { x } }]]] }][m] } }[m][n]] } }[n][m]][-> x { -> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }[f[-> m { -> n { n[-> n { -> p { p[-> x { -> y { x } }] }[n[-> p { -> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[-> p { p[-> x { -> y { y } }] }[p]][-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }[-> p { p[-> x { -> y { y } }]
<havenwood>
}[p]]] }][-> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[-> p { -> x { x } }][-> p { -> x { x } }]]] }][m] } }[m][n]][n]][x] }][-> p { -> x { x } }] } } }][n][-> m { -> n { n[-> m { -> n { n[-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }][m] } }[m]][-> p { -> x { x } }] } }[-> p { -> x { p[p[x]] } }][-> p { -> x { p[p[p[p[p[x]]]]] } }]]][x] }]][-> f { -> x { f[-> y { x[x][y] }] }[-> x { f[-> y { x[x][y] }] }] }[-> f { -> m { -> n { -> b { b }[-> m { -> n
<havenwood>
{ -> n { n[-> x { -> x { -> y { y } } }][-> x { -> y { x } }] }[-> m { -> n { n[-> n { -> p { p[-> x { -> y { x } }] }[n[-> p { -> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[-> p { p[-> x { -> y { y } }] }[p]][-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }[-> p { p[-> x { -> y { y } }] }[p]]] }][-> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[-> p { -> x { x } }][-> p { -> x { x } }]]] }][m] } }[m][n]] } }[n][m]][-> x { f[-> m { -> n { n[-> n { -> p { p[-> x { -> y {
<havenwood>
x } }] }[n[-> p { -> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[-> p { p[-> x { -> y { y } }] }[p]][-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }[-> p { p[-> x { -> y { y } }] }[p]]] }][-> x { -> y { -> f { f[x][y] } } }[-> p { -> x { x } }][-> p { -> x { x } }]]] }][m] } }[m][n]][n][x] }][m] } } }][n][-> m { -> n { n[-> m { -> n { n[-> n { -> p { -> x { p[n[p][x]] } } }][m] } }[m]][-> p { -> x { x } }] } }[-> p { -> x { p[p[x]] } }][-> p { -> x { p[p[
<havenwood>
p[p[p[x]]]]] } }]]] } }][n]]]] }]
<havenwood>
oh, sorry
<havenwood>
err
<havenwood>
didn't mean to paste the entire thing here, meant the link >.>
<sdegutis>
:)
<eam>
all I see is blonde, brunette
* sdegutis
is laughing out loud
<mozzarella>
stop clogging up the tubes
<sdegutis>
dont make me laugh out loud when my wife and kids are sleeping!
<Nowaker>
lol
<sdegutis>
i have successfully run mruby in a small C app
<Nowaker>
gotta sleep, 7am here ;/
<sdegutis>
whoa
<sdegutis>
night owl?
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<Nowaker>
yep
<sdegutis>
SLEEP NOW.
<eam>
what's the runtime profile of mruby vs ruby?
<Nowaker>
ok
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<sdegutis>
hence "SLEEP NOW."
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<sdegutis>
make more sense?
<Nowaker>
yes
<sdegutis>
good.
<Nowaker>
byes
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<Hanmac>
zenspider: hey you did write that graph thing right? i have some problems doing colorscheme with my own dot files ... but i dont know what when wrong ...
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<EasyCo>
Is there a ruby array method that you can use to loop through all items of an array checking for true/false values and have it stop if it find a false value? Other than using Array#each
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<sevenseacat>
something like all?
<mocfive>
detect?
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<EasyCo>
all?
<EasyCo>
That's the one
<EasyCo>
Thanks, couldn't find it
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<claw>
http://paste.triple6.org/?23 why is @position changing for both instances of Test when using Test.move here ?
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<claw>
anybody can help ?
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<claw>
if i use m1.move m2 also moves
<claw>
they are always the same
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<Hanmac>
claw because "m1","m2" are currently at the same position, do you want that? and it does use the same Array object ... thats why they are currently linked ...
<Hanmac>
use $array << Test.new(x,position.dup)
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<claw>
okay
<claw>
lets see
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<claw>
okay that works
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<claw>
but m1 and m2 are different instances why are there @position instance variables are always the same ?
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<claw>
that did not make sense to me
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<claw>
okay i guess reading about dup awnsers my question
<claw>
thank you Hanmac
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<atmosx>
good morning
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<mostlybadfly>
Buenos días
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<Farioko>
I'm playing with sinatra, and want to use activerecord. Now when I run rake -T it says it can't find app.
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<canton7>
there's not nearly enough information there to debug your problem
<canton7>
adding ActiveRecord won't break your rakefile
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<krisquigley>
Hi, I'm looking for an SQL guru
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<krisquigley>
I am using this statement (which is not correct) in postgres: ELECT tags.name,(SELECT count(*) FROM tags WHERE tags.status = 'strength') - (SELECT count(*) FROM tags WHERE tags.status = 'weakness') AS difference FROM tags WHERE updated_at BETWEEN now() - interval '7 days' AND now() GROUP BY tags.name;
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<krisquigley>
Basically, I want to work out the difference between the status' on the same tag.name
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<krisquigley>
Is there a way of passing 'self' or equivalent in postgres?
<krisquigley>
i.e.:
<jhass>
krisquigley: #postgresql ?
<krisquigley>
SELECT tags.name,(SELECT count(*) FROM tags WHERE tags.status = 'strength' AND tags.name = self) - (SELECT count(*) FROM tags WHERE tags.status = 'weakness' AND tags.name = self) AS difference FROM tags WHERE updated_at BETWEEN now() - interval '7 days' AND now() GROUP BY tags.name;
<krisquigley>
ok, will try that channel. Thanks :)
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<Farioko>
canton7: Are you familiar with Sinatra?
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<canton7>
Farioko, I've used it a fair few times
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<Farioko>
canton7: Would you take a look at what i'm doing wrong?
<shevy>
the rails world does not teach people ruby :(
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<tobiasvl>
Farioko: you have told ruby to do something with a class called Temperature, but you haven't defined what Temperature is. ruby doesn't know what it is. it's a random word for ruby.
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<tobiasvl>
if this is rails stuff, try #rubyonrails
<canton7>
this is sinatra + activerecord
<tobiasvl>
oh okay.
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<canton7>
which is why his pastie was sinatra, and the github page he linked to was called "sinatra-activerecord"
<tobiasvl>
yeah, I just went off what shevy said
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<canton7>
shevy never reads anything ;)
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<shevy>
activerecord originated from the rails world
<Hanmac>
but still activerecord questions are more easier anwserd in #rubyonrails than there
<Hanmac>
shevy: its the spawn of the devil ! ;P
<shevy>
more like a leaky virus
<shevy>
making sinatra more railsy
<shevy>
and people dumber
<canton7>
Sequel all the way
<shevy>
hahahaha :D
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<shevy>
Farioko a constant in ruby starts with the first character uppercased. all class and modules are that way. class Foo but not class foo, same with modules
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<shevy>
so, class Temperature. If you want to add class methods to that, one way would be: class Temperature; def self.all; end; end; Temperature.all
<Farioko>
ok, I will try
<shevy>
could be module Temperature too of course. module Temperature; def self.name_here; end; end; Temperature.name_here
<canton7>
in his case it's 'class Temperature'
<canton7>
please stop trying to confuse him ;)
<shevy>
he will learn the basics here
<shevy>
he is clever
<canton7>
not with you spamming random syntax at him :P
<shevy>
the railsers just did not explain this to him yet
<shevy>
it is not random at all, it is modeled to his specific use case in question
<tsunamie>
hi guys, I am a total ruby noob and building a chef cookbook. I tried the following line in .erb <% if ssl = "true" %>
<tsunamie>
<% end %>. Basicly what I wanted was if a value is set to true print the following in a configuration. However it does'nt work as expected IS this really what I have to put into a erb file?
<tsunamie>
SSLEngine on
<shevy>
tsunamie what is this code doing: if ssl = "true"
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<tsunamie>
shevy, if a value in chef is true
<tobiasvl>
no
<jhass>
tsunamie: = is assignment
<shevy>
tsunamie remember you are writing ruby code
<jhass>
you want ==
<shevy>
so in the above example you assign the string "true" to a variable called ssl
<tsunamie>
sorry thanks
<tobiasvl>
that would be `if ssl == "true"` (or probably more likely you can just do `if ssl`? unless ssl truly is a string)
<tsunamie>
tobiasvl, it's a bolean in chef
<shevy>
ssl is more a wreck than a string
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<shevy>
in chef :)
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<shevy>
that's the new programming language for housewives
<shevy>
for cooking
<tsunamie>
:)
<tsunamie>
thanks
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<tobiasvl>
tsunamie: okay, then be aware that "true" is not the same as true. the former is a string (which evaluates to the boolean value true in ruby), the latter is a boolean value
<tobiasvl>
in ruby, everything evaluates to true except nil and false
<Hanmac>
hey! who uses my gemtree with Gemfile's? because it does now colorize with colorschemas ;P
<tobiasvl>
tsunamie: just something to watch out for although it doesn't impact that piece of code
<shevy>
Hanmac havenwood does
<tsunamie>
tobiasvl, so if ssl is sufficient
<Hanmac>
shevy: yes, but he already knows and is also currently not online yet
<tsunamie>
thanks guys
<tobiasvl>
tsunamie: should be, unless you specifically need to check if ssl has the string value "true"
<tsunamie>
I love this channel, details explaination of what is what rather than a 5 minute's of abuse
<shevy>
the = vs == happens often
<tsunamie>
tobiasvl, naaa, ssl is set to true as a bolean in chef
<shevy>
that's why you need to have good eyesight
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<atmosx>
hello
<shevy>
the worst typos I made were this
<shevy>
def intialize
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<shevy>
and I spent about 20 minutes debugging stuff
<shevy>
hey atmosx
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<Farioko>
shevy: lovely now it does execute the SQL and doesn't return anything, because there is nothing in the database
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<balance>
hi, can someone tell me why the following is the same as if I'd inherit Timeline and call super instead of old_print? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/0a3386b086cfa69edf2d Can't see how alias_method refers to the "parent".
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<tobiasvl>
there's no parent, it's opening det same class
<balance>
tobiasvl, notice the ""
<tobiasvl>
funny that Class is uppercase. does that work? I know Class is a valid constant, but …
<Hanmac>
tobiasvl: "Class Timeline" ... that is a syntax error
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<tobiasvl>
would think so, yeah
<Hanmac>
hm ok its not, its a "NoMethodError" but you know what i mean
<balance>
tobiasvl, ah yeah, I wquickly wrote it, it's not in use, so sry if there are syntax errors. I leanred that alias_method cna be used to create an alias to a method within a class. Basically having 2 names for 1 method, but somehow, it also reverse to overwritten methods.
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<tobiasvl>
balance: well, what's happening here is monkey patching
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<tobiasvl>
the class is reopened and the print method is re-defined
<tobiasvl>
but before the method is overwritten by the new definition, the old method is saved as an alias
<jhass>
balance: alias_method copies the method to the new name, while the alias keyword just assigns a new name
<Hanmac>
tobiasvl: for java its called "money-patching" ;P
<tobiasvl>
Hanmac: lol
<balance>
aahh thanks tobiasvl now I get it, I alsways though how this should work, but yeah, you hit it. :P
<balance>
thanks
<Hanmac>
tobiasvl: alias_method does asign a new name too, its also similar to alias in that point
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<tobiasvl>
yeah
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<Hanmac>
>> class A; def abc;end; end; class A; alias_method :xyz, :abc; end; A.instance_method(:xyz)
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<balance>
How is this #{} calledi n ruby? e.g. define_method "runs_on_#{system.downcase}?"
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<workmad3>
balance: string interpolation
<tobiasvl>
interpolation
<Hanmac>
workmad3: do you use bundler Gemfiles too?
<balance>
ty tobago workmad3
<workmad3>
Hanmac: yes I do
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<Hanmac>
for my gemtree: https://gist.github.com/Hanmac/cb9e13ff220e4f31e13a newest option "--gemfile-colorscheme reds" with that the different groups inside the Gemfile are colorated differently (depending on the colorschema)
<workmad3>
Hanmac: fun :)
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<Hanmac>
yeah did take me long enough until i noticed that my nodes does have the wrong shape for the current fill style ;P
<Cork>
i have a variable with a name of a global variable (except the $)
<Cork>
is there an alternative to eval to access that variable from a function inside the class?
<Cork>
eval("$#{ v_name }")
<Cork>
opps
<Cork>
meant @
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<shevy>
so ugly
<Cork>
sure
<balance>
Would you prefere the first example over the second?
<mityaz>
but I need to get an error on calling foo in B
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<Hanmac>
mityaz: hm you can add a "self.class == A" check inside of the private method ... but that protection can still be broken ...
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<bweston92>
If bundle isn't installed on a server (and server admins won't install (php freaks)) would I be able to download the bundle files (only 1 dependency anyhow) and put them in the project anywhere?
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<jhass>
not easily
<jhass>
what level of access do you have?
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<bweston92>
jhass: everything but sudo
<jhass>
try gem install --user-install bundler
<jhass>
and make sure to take care of the warning it may print
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<jhass>
then in your app bundle install --deployment
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<gregf_>
mityaz: i'm sure thats not possible in java :/
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<gregf_>
which means ruby does not preserve encapsulation? :/
<workmad3>
gregf_: it is possible in java
<workmad3>
gregf_: if you mess around with the reflection API
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<workmad3>
gregf_: ruby's reflection stuff is just a bit easier to do
<bweston92>
jhass: Got bundler to install, bundler deployment also works, issue now is require cannot load such file. Any ideas?
<bweston92>
Works locally
<gregf_>
well, even mocking a private method for tests is difficult without reflection :/
<jhass>
bweston92: bundle exec $whatever
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<mityaz>
so, there is no way to do it? ok, let's assume I'm not going to use magic with reflections, just simple restriction
<bweston92>
jhass: Says install missing gems, I had just install them though :s sorry for being annoying, just coming into the ruby world
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<jhass>
and you do that in the same dir you did bundle install --deployment ?
<jhass>
and that did print a green success message?
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<bweston92>
Yes, I now have a folder vendor, with the gem "escort" my dependency deep down
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<jhass>
mmh, weird
<jhass>
any chance you can make a gist or pastie with copy pasting everything you did so far?
<Hanmac>
apeiros: and? did that image satificed you in your guestion? (as you did see rdoc is requested by both default and development)
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<GeorgesLeYeti>
Hi
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<GeorgesLeYeti>
How could i verify if a folder get a least 1 *.mp3 file present ?
<GeorgesLeYeti>
Like File.exists?
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<shevy>
GeorgesLeYeti Dir['*.mp3'].size > 0
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<GeorgesLeYeti>
shevy: ty a lot
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<shevy>
you have to pass the location towards Dir[] of course, like Dir['/my_audio_files/*.mp3']
<shevy>
\o/
<canton7>
Dir['**/*.mp3'].any? is another way, also checking recursively
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<Hanmac>
or use Dir.chdir(path) { ... }
<centrx>
may need to turn on globstar for **
<p0sixpscl>
speaking of Dir. why do they use brackets instead of () to call? because of any design pattern?
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<Mon_Ouie>
"turn on globstar"?
<sdegutis>
So, how would you add fixnums in mruby using the C API?
<GeorgesLeYeti>
shevy: yes ofc i add the location
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<centrx>
Mon_Ouie, maybe that's only in bash and ** it works seamlessly in Ruby
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<Hanmac>
p0sixpscl: Dir[] like Hash[] are methods on the class ... Array() is a method on the Kernel module
<centrx>
Mon_Ouie, in bash you can do ls a/**/b.txt for any intervening directory structure, but you have to turn on globstar to do it
<p0sixpscl>
ah good to know
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<Hanmac>
shevy do you like the colored output of my gemtree? http://i.imgur.com/Wb40yNn.png ... the colorscheme can be set with parameter
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<apeiros>
Hanmac: nice. do you use .dot?
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<sdegutis>
What is the advantage of embedding mruby into a GUI app vs Ruby itself?
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<Hanmac>
apeiros: yes, currently its .dot output only or in my case i pipe it directly to dot "/home/hanmac/scripts/gemtree.rb --gemfile Gemfile --only-gemfile --gemfile-colorscheme reds | dot -Tpng -oout.png; eog out.png"
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<centrx>
sdegutis, you can distribute it in a compiled binary?
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<sdegutis>
What, Ruby?
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<Mon_Ouie>
mruby can have multiple completely separate VMs so you could potentially load multiple scripts that would never change the state of one another, Ruby uses global state
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<sdegutis>
Ah.
<sdegutis>
I'm okay with global state :)
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<shevy>
mruby is fast
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<sdegutis>
Ruby isn't too slow.
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<shevy>
perl is faster
<sdegutis>
Nobody uses perl.
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<diegoviola>
I can't find any ruby work (remote) lately, this sucks
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<sdegutis>
:(
<diegoviola>
and I really don't want to go back to Java or PHP
<shevy>
diegoviola then you need to cut away from their share
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<diegoviola>
what do you mean?
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<workmad3>
diegoviola: convince clients looking for Java or PHP jobs done that they want it done in ruby instead
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<shevy>
diegoviola well, there is a reason why they use X or Y
<shevy>
so you want to give them Z, so you must reason
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<workmad3>
shevy: I was listening to a ruby rogues podcast today and your name came up btw ;)
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<shevy>
was that because I said compile from source
<workmad3>
shevy: yeah
<shevy>
\o/
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<shevy>
eventually I'll have ruby bootstrap a linux from scratch system
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<ddv>
is shevy famous?
<ddv>
<3
<bweston92>
shevy: compile from source?
<workmad3>
ddv: he's famous for saying you should compile ruby from source
<shevy>
Cookbooks: 2648 programs are registered in our cookbooks
<shevy>
yeah bweston92
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<bweston92>
meaning compile ruby from source ruby?
<shevy>
actually compile everything
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<ddv>
I can't wrap my head around that
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<wasamasa>
well
* workmad3
is going to start suggesting that you should compile everything from sauce
<wasamasa>
there's a bunch of languages that pull this off
<wasamasa>
bootstrapping their build with an older binary
<bweston92>
Hmm, I can't wrap my head around compiling gems etc either
<centrx>
diegoviola, You want to be the general person a team or company wants to help them do things, whatever language that is
<wasamasa>
like rust and some lisp implementations
<shevy>
bweston92 no, these are usually autogenerate Makefiles in ext/ using extconf.rb usually, it's in the end just gcc and make that do the job here
<wasamasa>
gcc, too
<centrx>
diegoviola, and often that language is going to be Ruby, because it is good and effective for their needs, and because you are already good at it
<workmad3>
centrx: I prefer to tell clients 'You can have whatever language you want, as long as it's ruby'
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<shevy>
but I aim big! for the world!
<workmad3>
wasamasa: it's pretty common to bootstrap a compiler to the point you can write the compiler in the target language
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<bweston92>
shevy: First day of ruby, no idea what you're going on about :)
<shevy>
down with cmake, down with rake, down with make, down with GNU auto*, down with libtool, down with waf, down with everything
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<wasamasa>
shevy: good luck
<shevy>
wasamasa luck is not needed, only work
<bweston92>
shevy: Hard work pays off :)
<workmad3>
shevy: mad work, amirite?
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<wasamasa>
shevy: what will your build tool be called?
<shevy>
wasamasa I renamed them about 10 times already
<workmad3>
shevy: call it 'build'
<gerep>
I'm looking for a gem to create a torrent server and manage those torrents, I've been looking but didn't find anything, does anyone here knows of something like that?
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<wasamasa>
shevy: I propose dish, as in dishevel
<shevy>
build is a bit too generic
<workmad3>
shevy: then the command line interface is 'build ruby'
<shevy>
dishevel does not really reveal intent
<shevy>
workmad3 well that is a bit better
<gerep>
I need a torrent server and also need to control those torrents download
<wasamasa>
shevy: well, it contains 80% of your name
<workmad3>
'build my_awesome_crap'
<diegoviola>
it sounds like I'm going to have to bite the bullet and do java and php programming
<diegoviola>
ugh
<shevy>
wasamasa I usually call things close to what they should do
<workmad3>
shevy: my only other suggestion is 'shiv'... as in 'shiv ruby'
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<wasamasa>
workmad3: but shivs are for crazy lispers!
<workmad3>
wasamasa: and gangstas
<workmad3>
wasamasa: we want to be lisp gangstas in ruby, right?
<shevy>
you guys are having way too much fun coming up with names rather than coming up with code
<wasamasa>
workmad3: yeah, I'd be a little happier if all gems I came across had learned that lesson
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<workmad3>
shevy: code is easy, names are hard!
<wasamasa>
workmad3: tried builder the other day in irb
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<wasamasa>
workmad3: it kept adding elements every time I involunarily inspected it!
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<wasamasa>
workmad3: how the hell did that thing make it into the list of rails dependencies
<workmad3>
wasamasa: hah
<ddv>
gerep: i'm looking for a gem that programs everything for me
<wasamasa>
ddv: agi.rb
<gerep>
ddv why don't you simply say no? Easier ;)
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<atmosx>
hello
<atmosx>
can foreman run in the background?
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<mwlang>
I’m having trouble with rake. I’m working on an old rails 1.2 project under ruby 1.8.7 and need to use rake 0.8.7, but am picking up rake 10.0.4. I tried to uninstall, but its stated that it isn’t. Here’s the gist of what I’m seeing. How can remove the 10.0.x versions so I can use 0.8.7?
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<|splat|>
hey guys, i’m trying to make a job for Dashing to pull in some json data from Ganglia and the url has some [ and ] in it which HTTParty seems to not like. I’ve tried CGI::escape, URI.escape and Addressable:URI.escape and all seem to fail. any ideas on how I can properly parse this url? http://pastebin.com/cZMjff3E
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<mwlang>
for anyone who cares, the answer: rvm @global do gem uninstall -ax rake
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<havenwood>
alternative answer is don't use gemsets!
<havenwood>
mwlang: thanks for posting solution! :)
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<mwlang>
havenwood: I actually didn’t…I think rvm does so automatically in this case since its rake.
<wallerdev>
good morning rubyists
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<havenwood>
g'morn
<chris6131>
Hi. I'm adding a method to the Array class that adds things to itself based on some external magic (chef in this case). I can do self << 'new thing' but when I try to do self += ['some','new','things'] I get "Can't change the value of self". How do I correctly perform Concatenation on self?
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<avocado>
i think i might just be ruby dumb, but i did "gem install inifile" and then launched irb and tried to run "require 'inifile'" and it gives me an error (syntax error in ini.rb)
<avocado>
can anyone confirm that or help me understand what i'm not understanding?
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<jhass>
rubie: see that long bar in the bottom middle of your keybard? That's the space key. Use it
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<rubie>
jhass what do you mean?
<Phrogz>
Given a dynamically-created class (Class.new) how do I best re-open it to add instance methods?
<jhass>
I'm surprised puts"foo" is not a syntax error
<jhass>
you have an if that's not indented properly
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<rubie>
jhass: ok i will fix that
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<avocado>
never mind, i'm just dumb. removed it and reinstalled and it worked. :|
<rubie>
i cant figure out a good way to ask the user a question and test to see if their answer is correct
<jhass>
rubie: well, first of all the expression on line 28 will never be true
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<jhass>
can you think why that is?
<Phrogz>
Best solution I've got so far is myklass.instance_eval{ define_method(…){ … } } but that seems like it must be the hard way.
<rubie>
jhass: because its a string?
<jhass>
rubie: no, but at the that point selection can't contain the string "a"
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<rubie>
jhass: it works on my first if statement
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<rubie>
jhass: line 16
<jhass>
rubie: yes
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<jhass>
now that if statement contains something that makes me say that it can't work again
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<rubie>
jhass: oh because i changed the value to "South America"
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<jhass>
yes
<rubie>
ok i'll fix that
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<rubie>
and line 36 i'll fix
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<jhass>
update the gist when you're done
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<rubie>
jhass: okay updated
<rubie>
now i need to figure out the best way to check the users answer to the question
<jhass>
check then indention on line 36 ff
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<jhass>
if you have two ends directly next to each other, indented on the same level, you indented wrong
<jhass>
another thing, why do you assign the local variables a and b but never use them?
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<pipework>
jhass: Because locals are cheap!
<jhass>
pipework: you racist
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<pipework>
jhass: Well, jingoist, but sure.
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<jhass>
oh well, yet another ism
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<eam>
hate that game, blocks always fall on my turn
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<jhass>
jenga?
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<rubie>
ism? you from quicken loans?
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<rubie>
i changed a and b only to make it easier to put the string "You selected" on lines 18 and 23
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<jhass>
but you use selection there, not a nor b
<jhass>
they're never used
<rubie>
i'll try to just use a and b
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<rubie>
oh it was line 24 that i was trying to create
<rubie>
not sure how to do line 24 - using a and b
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<jhass>
mmh, now you don't reassign selection anymore (not saying that's a bad thing), so ll 26 and 35 will never be true again (unless the user enters "South America" or "Asia")
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<jhass>
rubie: okay. Can you tell what the return value of puts is ?
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<rubie>
nil
<rubie>
just made some changes, i think for the better
<jhass>
so what value will sa_question_1 and a_question_1 always have?
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<rubie>
jhass: still cant figure out how to get line 24 to work
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<jhass>
how about selected_country = a / b in the if's
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<rubie>
i dont understand
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<jhass>
previously you overwrote selection with the value you wanted to display
<jhass>
since you still want to use selection for its old value too, why not create a new variable?
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<rubie>
humm, i thought i had it
<rubie>
i used selected_country = a || b
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<jhass>
nah that / was meant in one you do a in the other do b
<jhass>
(a || b) will always equal a in this case
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<jhass>
shevy: come to the good side finally! :P
<shevy>
debian is stuck like in the 1980s
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<shevy>
I mean we all liked Toy Story I
<shevy>
but there was Toy Story II ... and Toy Story III ...
<atmosx>
do we?
<shevy>
everything moves on
<rubie>
jhass: thanks let me take a while to digest this
<shevy>
yeah
<atmosx>
I'm having a weeeird error.
<eam>
shevy: because it's english and not german?
<shevy>
atmosx remember, those were just about the days of Terminator 2 "omg that was computer generated!!!"
<jhass>
rubie: sure, just ask if you need a part explained in detail
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<atmosx>
shevy: true
<shevy>
eam dunno, there are actually some movies which are better in german. chinese kung fu flicks for instance, they are better in the german language than the english one (though admittedly they are best in original cantonese when done in Hong Kong)
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<eam>
when an american action movie is redubbed for germany, what language do they use for the bad guys?
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<shevy>
for project A http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085127/ the lead pirate dude actually had a dialect from some northern german town... I think Kiel or Hamburg or Bremen or something like that...
<shevy>
many of those english dubs are really AWFUL
<eam>
like lethal weapon
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<shevy>
hehehe
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<shevy>
hmm
<shevy>
they actually have professional sync speakers
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<shevy>
it's more fun for movies who can afford only crap speakers
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<eam>
I mean, we make all our educated villains german (or russian). So are they still german when translated?
<eam>
or do they like, change them to be polish or something
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<bhaak>
depends. in sitcoms, they often get cast to danish
<eam>
like hans gruber in die hard
<shevy>
eam hmm there were some old james bond movies with two somewhat famous german dudes
<rubie>
jhass: im getting an error trying to run it here is the error -- :in `select': undefined method `to_h' for [["South America", "A"], ["Asia", "B"]]:Array (N
<shevy>
one was in goldfinger
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<eam>
does it turn into like bjorn jensen
<shevy>
I think that was the original voice, in german
<eam>
and dutch?
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<jhass>
rubie: then you don't learn ruby on the newest version! ;)
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<bhaak>
the villains in die hard 1 were just regular villains, without any specific nationality (besides the fake political agenda)
<shevy>
eam dunno but most people in the netherlands speak german too
<shevy>
just with some crazy accent
<eam>
they were totooootally specifically evil rich german villains
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<jhass>
koans is not good if you're new to programming
<atmosx>
we could say FreeBSD sucks big time and get over with other thatn it would take me 2 months to reconfigure another server at this level.
<rubie>
ive done codecademy pretty similar
<rubie>
i need something just beyond beginner
<jhass>
rubie: I'm not sure, it's still pretty basic tbh
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<nobitanobi>
sorry rubie didn't know you were new to programming
<rubie>
jhass: what is the -- def select choices -- part of the program doing
<rubie>
thats the hardest part
<jhass>
do you know methods already?
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<rubie>
yes
<rubie>
a bit
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<jhass>
so the contents trouble you?
<jhass>
or defining a method already?
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<atmosx>
anyone running ruby21 in freebsd?
<zmartazz>
Hi guys, just finished the codecademy interactive introduction to Ruby and want one more interactive tutorial before I dive into Eloquent Ruby or The Well-Grounded Rubyist :) Got any suggestions? AND which of these books should I start with? Got them both :) hehe
<atmosx>
shevy: true, we're just few elites, watching other people from up-high
<atmosx>
shevy: jokes apart, I think it's ruby.
<febuiles>
atmosx: no experience with 2.1 but your problem seems preeety broad
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<rubie>
i cant find anything interactive that is worth while after codecademy
<febuiles>
let's try to nail it down
<atmosx>
febuiles: how? I'm developing on macosx
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<zmartazz>
rubie, thanks, but hasn't alot changed since 2006? :)
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<febuiles>
atmosx: bsd vm'd?
<atmosx>
febuiles: I'm testing production in FreeBSD, exactly same code.
<atmosx>
febuiles: yes
<febuiles>
ok
<atmosx>
febuiles: VPS
<febuiles>
ah
<febuiles>
do the lower latency is from your laptop and the other one from the vps?;
<febuiles>
so the*
<febuiles>
(what I'm trying to know is: 1) is latency an issue because of different locations or 2) have you already benchmarked everything outside of ruby adn the latency is at the app level)
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<atmosx>
my laptop throws a result at 5 seconds (with stopwatch, system 'time' reports 1.6s), while on FreeBSD system time reports 2.1s but my stopwatch says 1 mi 14s
<atmosx>
1 minute and 14s
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<zmartazz>
Well well, the books are laying around on my desk anyways and I guess I'm ready to start reading and learning. Got experience from java so should be able to pick the language up well :)
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<febuiles>
atmosx: is there any way for you to use the Benchmark library and see if the BSD code is really taking that long in app-land? a 1 minute difference sounds horrible
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<atmosx>
febuiles: sure
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<febuiles>
Ruby 2+ includes many changes to GC and other things that could slow down things, but not to that point I think
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<lukevinc>
Hello ruby programmers, how are you? Can you recommend me a good material to learn ruby fast?
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<febuiles>
lukevinc: someone just mentioned codeacademy a few minutes ago, there's also http://tryruby.org for a super fast intro
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<eam>
amphetamine
<febuiles>
^^ works too
<zmartazz>
lukevinc, I just finished the lesson on codecademy and would recommend it for learning the basics quick :)
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<lukevinc>
thanks, i will check it out, fellas.
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<lukevinc>
i don't get down with drugs, but thanks anyway
<atmosx>
per fucking request, isn't that something?!
<febuiles>
atmosx: I'd try to test the offending code otuside nginx and any other 3rd party things
<atmosx>
here -> 0.117188 0.015625 0.132812 ( 68.941276)
<atmosx>
I have access to a linux box a couple of RPis
<febuiles>
atmosx: you're doing a GET or POST for OAuth, correct?
<atmosx>
I'm sure they perform better
<atmosx>
yes
<febuiles>
measure that specific code, nto the entire thing or you'll die crazy waiting
<febuiles>
or since you're in freebsd, attach a dtrace and see where the time's being spent
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<atmosx>
I'll test it on debian now
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<atmosx>
let's see
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<unstable>
How can I make it so I go into a mode where I use the ruby from rbenv (2.0.x), but by default if I don't go into that mode it uses the system ruby
<unstable>
I have a bunch of bins in ~/.rbenv/someplace, that is all the ruby 2.0.x stuff, and there are operating system ruby files somewhere else /usr/bin, and I want to have those be the default ruby
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<pipework>
I'd personally suggest using chruby and ruby-install, but I'm sure rbenv has a way to default a chosen ruby
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<postmodern>
unstable, i think there's a way to set system as the default ruby? not sure
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<unstable>
Is there mkvirtualenv for ruby?
<unstable>
I use that a lot for python
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<pipework>
unstable: There are many managers for ruby environments. I prefer chruby and ruby-install, but there's rvm, and the less awesome rbenv
<unstable>
yea, I think I've been using the less awesome one
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<unstable>
I'll checkout rvm
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<havenwood>
chruby with ruby-install is my fav :)
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<pipework>
the most beast.
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<unstable>
I use ohmyzsh with mkvirtualenv, so when I cd into certain directories.. I get certain python environments and libraries
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<pipework>
unstable: chruby supports that feature.
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<linguini>
I've written a very small gem that has one library file and one ruby script. The ruby script depends on no external gems.
<linguini>
bundle exec myscript # is quite slow
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<linguini>
Is there a kosher way to make my gem's bin/myscript directly executable (thus avoiding a 2 second delay for loading unnecessary gems)? Or am I doing something wrong?
<pipework>
in your gemspec, yeah
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<linguini>
spec.executables = "myscript"
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<linguini>
Should I be doing something other than that?
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<linguini>
Maybe I should be asking in #bundler..?
<jhass>
what does this have to do with bundler?
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<linguini>
jhass: Well, I'm not sure how to make bin/myscript "available" for direct execution. I'm not familiar with the gem paradigm.
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<jhass>
s.executables = ["bin/foo"] done
<linguini>
jhass: Sorry if I don't understand, but how would a consumer of my gem use foo?
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<linguini>
gem install # puts foo in /usr/local/bin ?
<jhass>
if run with --user-install in another directory the user is supposed to add to his path
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<linguini>
I see. Thanks for the link. I think I have done as that guide describes.
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<linguini>
I suppose my real question is $ bundle install # puts foo somewhere?
<linguini>
I realize bundler can do different things (system gems vs vendor/ vs ~/).
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<jhass>
yes, bundle exec will find it in any case
<linguini>
Right! bundle exec will work. But it's so freaking slow.
<jhass>
if it's installing to system or --user-install same rules as with gem install
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<jhass>
that might just be your system or your huge Gemfile or both
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<linguini>
jhass: True; but I thought 'bundle exec' is typically slow (over 2 seconds) in rails projects. But maybe I've only worked with bloated ones...
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<linguini>
myscript, in any case, needs no other gems...
<jhass>
fairly big project: time bundle exec ruby -v